2022 F1 news/rumours

[ferrari1.8t]

As much as I dislike Hamilton, that is not something that he should've done.

Guilty until proven innocent? I’m not defending Piquet, however there is a language barrier and corporations like F1 shouldn’t jump to judgment until they know what’s going on. But hey, it’s 2022, wouldn’t have expected anything different.

[Kyss4k]

As much as I dislike Hamilton, that is not something that he should've done.

Oh come on...

[PURE PASSION]

I never liked NP and now looks like 2 evils have being united!!!
(Piques + Verstappens)

[Liscia]

Piquet just wanted to remind us all that he's still the same jerk he was when he was in F1?
A jerk recognizing a fellow jerk is the same as "the pot calling the kettle black"?
Sad to read about this but glad at the recent coverage of Mansell and what he's up to!

[tifosi1993]

The sooner these racist boomers will die off the better. No need for them to waste oxygen and pollute this planet with every breath they take.

And as for Max, well I guess he likes to mingle with scums. Guy is not man enough to denounce his girlfriend's father.

[jgonzalesm6]

It is interesting that Piquets interview took place in November of 2021...............and all of sudden, this issue is suddenly surfacing on the eve of the SilverstoneGP of 2022.

I'm not affluent in Brazilian Portuguese nor do I know the different dialects with the Brazilian Portuguese....but from what I am hearing from those who know the Brazilian Portuguese dialect, it's not so much racial as it is disrespectful. Now why didn't Piquet use Lewis's name is debateable when describing Lewis.

I think MercedesAMGF1 and F1, whom put out notices saying they do not condone racism after hearing about Piquets interview, should do more research about the Brazilian Portuguese dialect language to get a consensus of what Piquet was actually trying to say when using said remark.

Why are we hearing about this now......rather than when it actually took place back in November of 2021??? Maybe because of the eve of the SilverstoneGP 2022??? Maybe because Lewis isn't on the front of the media press and this story puts him back into the limelight???
Someone or the media is driving this narrative that's for sure.


Edit: This is what someone quoted who knows the Brazilian Portuguese dialect. I'm quoting here.

"neguinho" (in Brazil) and "negrito" (Spanish-speaking LatAm countries) are used as endearing terms between people of all races.

"Nego" can be used as "this guy" when mentioning an unknown person, as in, "this guy is dumb" -> "nego é parvo".

The way Nelson used the term in the video might be awkward (as he mentioned every pilot by their names and singled out Lewis as "neguinho") but initially it seems he was struggling to remember his name (he's saying the equivalent of "the... the... the..."), so "neguinho" ended up being the first thing it came to his mind. A little malicious perhaps but not in a full-blown racist way.

[Gilles]

I’m like you, wary of this controversy

[Liscia]

jgon I appreciate your thoughtful elucidation and agree that all parties should be given the benefits of doubts in this controversy
especially in the light of F1's often yellow journalism. That said, I haven't changed my opinion of the sour and rude Snr. Piquet

[paolo lalli]

Nelson who just a hasbeen an ill educated fool of no signicance, a proper stronzo. Its really not Nelsons fault he entered the world the way that he is, begone evil spirit.

[ferrari1.8t]

I’m like you, wary of this controversy

Yup, if he said it and meant it in a derogatory way he was wrong no question. But why dig up a comment from 7-8 months ago days before Hamilton’s home Grand Prix? Seems all to staged. Toto deemed Mercedes’ problems with porporising all gone, and Horner said Merc will be competitive in Silverstone. Will Hamilton; the poor oppressed baby overcome all odds and win his home gp? Its the kind of stuff that only happens in movies….or American fictional Netflix series.

[tifosi1993]

It is interesting that Piquets interview took place in November of 2021...............and all of sudden, this issue is suddenly surfacing on the eve of the SilverstoneGP of 2022.

I'm not affluent in Brazilian Portuguese nor do I know the different dialects with the Brazilian Portuguese....but from what I am hearing from those who know the Brazilian Portuguese dialect, it's not so much racial as it is disrespectful. Now why didn't Piquet use Lewis's name is debateable when describing Lewis.

I think MercedesAMGF1 and F1, whom put out notices saying they do not condone racism after hearing about Piquets interview, should do more research about the Brazilian Portuguese dialect language to get a consensus of what Piquet was actually trying to say when using said remark.

Why are we hearing about this now......rather than when it actually took place back in November of 2021??? Maybe because of the eve of the SilverstoneGP 2022??? Maybe because Lewis isn't on the front of the media press and this story puts him back into the limelight???
Someone or the media is driving this narrative that's for sure.


Edit: This is what someone quoted who knows the Brazilian Portuguese dialect. I'm quoting here.

"neguinho" (in Brazil) and "negrito" (Spanish-speaking LatAm countries) are used as endearing terms between people of all races.

"Nego" can be used as "this guy" when mentioning an unknown person, as in, "this guy is dumb" -> "nego é parvo".

The way Nelson used the term in the video might be awkward (as he mentioned every pilot by their names and singled out Lewis as "neguinho") but initially it seems he was struggling to remember his name (he's saying the equivalent of "the... the... the..."), so "neguinho" ended up being the first thing it came to his mind. A little malicious perhaps but not in a full-blown racist way.

The podcast was recorded 7 months ago but it was released this past Monday. He referred every driver by their names but called Hamilton "little blackey", as "inho" is diminutive.

But nice of you to act as his official spokesperson here. Sad but expected.

[jgonzalesm6]

The podcast was recorded 7 months ago but it was released this past Monday. He referred every driver by their names but called Hamilton "little blackey", as "inho" is diminutive.

But nice of you to act as his official spokesperson here. Sad but expected.

Your whole message is based on inferencing, supposition and lack-of-knowlege of the Brazilian language dialect. I'm glad to have "supposedly" disappoint you based on your lack thereof.

I've seen how you jump to your own conclusion and demean the poster on various topics on this forum. I would suggest a bit of humility on your part.

This was released on Brazilian TV on November 2021.

What makes you think I'm Piquet's "official spokesperson"??? We're talking about a language, unless your Brazilian, that so far, no one has a clue of what the actual word meant.......and as the quote stated, it was malicious but not a full blown racist way from a Brazilian perspective.

But you, along with the F1 media, are going to push this so called "racist narrative."

[jgonzalesm6]

jgon I appreciate your thoughtful elucidation and agree that all parties should be given the benefits of doubts in this controversy
especially in the light of F!'s often yellow journalism. That said, I haven't changed my opinion of the sour and rude Snr. Piquet

This is an actual nice post and I respect your opinion without being diminutive like some members on this forum.

Well said.

[Riccardog]

@jgonzalesm6... thank you for level headedness!!!!!!!!!!!! and impartiality before judgement.

[Riccardog]

last post by me, as I will surely be labelled...or probably already have been...

LH, I think you are a dirty driver, a not nice person, self entitled and arrogant beyond count and measure....
response... it's because I'm black you are a Racist....
my response... no not a racist at all, I come from South Africa and have quite a few black and colored friends, it is because you are a hypocrite, you claim hardship in your career, when you have been hand-picked by the biggest CHEAT in F1 history, Ron Dennis.... at the age of what 9 years old to be groomed to come into F1... and when you did, your words, "I will not use the black card" and then when one ruling by stewards went against you you IMMEDIATELY screamed 'it's because I'm black'..... and the cheating merc team who made the hybrid rules with the fia.... and benefitted from +- 10 years of supremacy... you aligned with cheats, you are a CHEAT, nothing will ever change my opinion of you!

[jgonzalesm6]

@jgonzalesm6... thank you for level headedness!!!!!!!!!!!! and impartiality before judgement.

Thank-You.

[Tifoso Svedese]

The sooner these racist boomers will die off the better. No need for them to waste oxygen and pollute this planet with every breath they take.

Man you're knee-deep into the Bluestater/Twatter/Guardian/Liebour/Remoaner talking points. Take a deep breath for heaven's sake Yet I assume you supported the immoral and evil lockdowns to save the same people? In effect, the greatest transfer of wealth from the lower to higher classes in history under the guise of protecting boomers. Politicians of all sides pretend to care about 'being nice' or 'solving a problem' and then their only constituency once in power is the big money interests. Rinse and repeat. Voters fall for the same trick all over again every damn election cycle.

Piquet is a silly man but there's no need to throw an entire generation under the bus for what some elitist pig said on some random podcast.

It's probably also a good idea for wokies to have a little bit thicker skin and just ignore people like Piquet who don't deserve the attention. Political correctness and woke pearl-clutching is a lot bigger of a problem than silly people in their 70s talking bollocks. Corporate cringe like that is actually a worse evil. It allows the billionares to continue dividing the working and middle classes by pretending to be do-gooders on social issues while they badly screw everyone over with the neverending corporate greed. The result is further wealth transfers from the poor to the rich as people get off their guard by thinking the elites look out for marginalized groups or whatever.

The only people who like your kind of reaction are either useful idiots, people angling for culture war or rich people who can run out with the money through the back door while the masses are distracted by the latest thing some idiot said about something we're supposed to be really mad about. Please think about this in the future. The only way to unite humanity is to not highlight racist twats. Don't feed the trolls.

Rant over and I've nothing more to say on the matter

[Riccardog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAf2zpxQJ_4

that is the way the world is going.... enjoy the song...

[evo_spook]

last post by me, as I will surely be labelled...or probably already have been...

LH, I think you are a dirty driver, a not nice person, self entitled and arrogant beyond count and measure....
response... it's because I'm black you are a Racist....
my response... no not a racist at all, I come from South Africa and have quite a few black and colored friends, it is because you are a hypocrite, you claim hardship in your career, when you have been hand-picked by the biggest CHEAT in F1 history, Ron Dennis.... at the age of what 9 years old to be groomed to come into F1... and when you did, your words, "I will not use the black card" and then when one ruling by stewards went against you you IMMEDIATELY screamed 'it's because I'm black'..... and the cheating merc team who made the hybrid rules with the fia.... and benefitted from +- 10 years of supremacy... you aligned with cheats, you are a CHEAT, nothing will ever change my opinion of you!

So you hate him not cause of his colour but for a load of imaginery BS reasons instead, sure what evermakes you think better about yourself

I'm not sure anyone cares about you changing your opinion.

[Riccardog]

imaginary indeed....

[Vittorio]

Man you're knee-deep into the Bluestater/Twatter/Guardian/Liebour/Remoaner talking points. Take a deep breath for heaven's sake Yet I assume you supported the immoral and evil lockdowns to save the same people? In effect, the greatest transfer of wealth from the lower to higher classes in history under the guise of protecting boomers. Politicians of all sides pretend to care about 'being nice' or 'solving a problem' and then their only constituency once in power is the big money interests. Rinse and repeat. Voters fall for the same trick all over again every damn election cycle.

Piquet is a silly man but there's no need to throw an entire generation under the bus for what some elitist pig said on some random podcast.

It's probably also a good idea for wokies to have a little bit thicker skin and just ignore people like Piquet who don't deserve the attention. Political correctness and woke pearl-clutching is a lot bigger of a problem than silly people in their 70s talking bollocks. Corporate cringe like that is actually a worse evil. It allows the billionares to continue dividing the working and middle classes by pretending to be do-gooders on social issues while they badly screw everyone over with the neverending corporate greed. The result is further wealth transfers from the poor to the rich as people get off their guard by thinking the elites look out for marginalized groups or whatever.

The only people who like your kind of reaction are either useful idiots, people angling for culture war or rich people who can run out with the money through the back door while the masses are distracted by the latest thing some idiot said about something we're supposed to be really mad about. Please think about this in the future. The only way to unite humanity is to not highlight racist twats. Don't feed the trolls.

Rant over and I've nothing more to say on the matter

Your post may have been a rant, but it was an outstanding one.

Excellent analysis and so very true. Well done.

[Tifoso Svedese]

I suspect this page will probably not exist for much longer either way, there will be a lot of removed posts

My takeaway is just 'don't trust the rich people when they claim they care about you'.

[FerrariF60]

I suspect this page will probably not exist for much longer either way, there will be a lot of removed posts

My takeaway is just 'don't trust the rich people when they claim they care about you'.

exactly.....couldn't agree more with you

[ferrari1.8t]

I suspect this page will probably not exist for much longer either way, there will be a lot of removed posts

Yup, it’s 2022 and if you have your own opinion you are automatically labelled a racist, bigot, and homophobic. What can you do.

Anyway, back to racing. Hoping for a strong race from us and a proper 1-2. A Verstappen DNF would help the cause as well lol.

[FerrariF60]

Yup, it’s 2022 and if you have your own opinion you are automatically labelled a racist, bigot, and homophobic. What can you do.

Anyway, back to racing. Hoping for a strong race from us and a proper 1-2. A Verstappen DNF would help the cause as well lol.

Yup a Max DNF would be more then welcomed....while we bag a 1-2 finish....let's hope this time it's HIM that dnf's as last race was Cheko

[jgonzalesm6]

Nelson Piquet's apologetic statement.

https://twitter.com/autosport/status...943169/photo/1

[tifosi1993]

Man you're knee-deep into the Bluestater/Twatter/Guardian/Liebour/Remoaner talking points. Take a deep breath for heaven's sake Yet I assume you supported the immoral and evil lockdowns to save the same people? In effect, the greatest transfer of wealth from the lower to higher classes in history under the guise of protecting boomers. Politicians of all sides pretend to care about 'being nice' or 'solving a problem' and then their only constituency once in power is the big money interests. Rinse and repeat. Voters fall for the same trick all over again every damn election cycle.

Piquet is a silly man but there's no need to throw an entire generation under the bus for what some elitist pig said on some random podcast.

It's probably also a good idea for wokies to have a little bit thicker skin and just ignore people like Piquet who don't deserve the attention. Political correctness and woke pearl-clutching is a lot bigger of a problem than silly people in their 70s talking bollocks. Corporate cringe like that is actually a worse evil. It allows the billionares to continue dividing the working and middle classes by pretending to be do-gooders on social issues while they badly screw everyone over with the neverending corporate greed. The result is further wealth transfers from the poor to the rich as people get off their guard by thinking the elites look out for marginalized groups or whatever.

The only people who like your kind of reaction are either useful idiots, people angling for culture war or rich people who can run out with the money through the back door while the masses are distracted by the latest thing some idiot said about something we're supposed to be really mad about. Please think about this in the future. The only way to unite humanity is to not highlight racist twats. Don't feed the trolls.

Rant over and I've nothing more to say on the matter

Dude, you live in Sweden, unless you're lying. Take a stool or a chair, stand on it and say all the mindless rambling and balderdash you'd like. No one would care. Most will laugh and some hillbilly inbred redneck would find you as their next messiah or something. Who knows.

Clearly you're incapable of having any nuance discussion. You clearly don't know what "context" means. The context was: Piquet's abhorrent comment towards Hamilton and me wishing all the racist boomers to die off. (Have you noticed the word racist yet, cause I have highlighted it for your beady eyes) And here you are, coming up with a bunch of hogwash. "Lockdown", "wealth", "Woke" "Political correctness" etc etc. As if I said something bad about you or your family. Did I hit a raw nerve by calling out racists and wishing their demise, who knows, it seems I did. Yikes.

So take your medicine, spend some time with real people rather than your online "buddies" and calm down. "The people like me" are the present and the future. And we will shape the world our way. And if you think that's not the world for you, well, tough luck.

[tifosi1993]

Your whole message is based on inferencing, supposition and lack-of-knowlege of the Brazilian language dialect. I'm glad to have "supposedly" disappoint you based on your lack thereof.

I've seen how you jump to your own conclusion and demean the poster on various topics on this forum. I would suggest a bit of humility on your part.

This was released on Brazilian TV on November 2021.

What makes you think I'm Piquet's "official spokesperson"??? We're talking about a language, unless your Brazilian, that so far, no one has a clue of what the actual word meant.......and as the quote stated, it was malicious but not a full blown racist way from a Brazilian perspective.

But you, along with the F1 media, are going to push this so called "racist narrative."

Man, you're consistent I will give you that. First you said that the "issue" is being highlighted all of a sudden. Which clearly isn't case, as it was pointed out to you that, the interview was made available only a couple of days ago.

Then you said that only Mercedes and Hamilton are upset and trying to use the "media". Which isn't the case ofcourse. Ferrari and 8 other F1 teams have joined the chorus & showed support, as it should be, but not Red Bull. I guess Red Bull and it's fans have something in common.

Rather doing your own foolhardy research about Portuguese. Why don't actually listen what people are saying, including Brazilian. Here: https://old.reddit.com/r/formula1/co...ia_motorsport/, and read the very first comment.

And for once, can't you admit that what has been said was awful and shouldn't have been said regardless. Or do you enjoy being the white knight for all the racist scums out there?

[jgonzalesm6]

Man, you're consistent I will give you that. First you said that the "issue" is being highlighted all of a sudden. Which clearly isn't case, as it was pointed out to you that, the interview was made available only a couple of days ago.

Then you said that only Mercedes and Hamilton are upset and trying to use the "media". Which isn't the case ofcourse. Ferrari and 8 other F1 teams have joined the chorus & showed support, as it should be, but not Red Bull. I guess Red Bull and it's fans have something in common.

Rather doing your own foolhardy research about Portuguese. Why don't actually listen what people are saying, including Brazilian. Here: https://old.reddit.com/r/formula1/co...ia_motorsport/, and read the very first comment.

And for once, can't you admit that what has been said was awful and shouldn't have been said regardless. Or do you enjoy being the white knight for all the racist scums out there?

The hypocrite is F1 and everyone who's come on-board on this so called "racial slur."

Give me a break!!!1

F1 races in Middle East countries where "womens rights" have no place in their culture, the LBGTQ community would be DEAD if it existed in said country(ies), "racial inequality" does exist in said country(ies) and in China where concerntration camps exist for the Uyghurs.

The #WeRaceAsOne logo in 2021????...............please.

Once you introduce the "Political Correctness" in F1, you go down a very slippery slope and these PC issues will pop up from time to time if you let some of the drivers dictate what that PC is in said country.

Nelson apologized and made his statement on said issue......now everyone must deal with it and move on.

Why should RedBull show support for a language they have no idea what that language is. Btw, RedBull cancelled Juri Vips for using a racial slur during a gaming sim. Vips has been cancelled from the F1 community, whom Vips apologized for using the racial slur.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Dude, you live in Sweden, unless you're lying. Take a stool or a chair, stand on it and say all the mindless rambling and balderdash you'd like. No one would care. Most will laugh and some hillbilly inbred redneck would find you as their next messiah or something. Who knows.

Clearly you're incapable of having any nuance discussion. You clearly don't know what "context" means. The context was: Piquet's abhorrent comment towards Hamilton and me wishing all the racist boomers to die off. (Have you noticed the word racist yet, cause I have highlighted it for your beady eyes) And here you are, coming up with a bunch of hogwash. "Lockdown", "wealth", "Woke" "Political correctness" etc etc. As if I said something bad about you or your family. Did I hit a raw nerve by calling out racists and wishing their demise, who knows, it seems I did. Yikes.

So take your medicine, spend some time with real people rather than your online "buddies" and calm down. "The people like me" are the present and the future. And we will shape the world our way. And if you think that's not the world for you, well, tough luck.

Mate you know a lot about F1 but besides that...

Damn u mad bruh?

The woke plantation is some sad stuff. I've got love for people no matter their colour and I don't need to prove it to anyone. I condemn Piquet's racist remarks without any hesitation. He could've used any other insult instead if he didn't want to say Lewis' name, but went for the racial one. That's just dumb.

Forza Ferrari and have a 1-2 this weekend with our two lads who refused to bend the knee to the woke mob atop the podium