2022 F1 news/rumours

[FerrariF60]

FIA pushing it as a safety issue....can't veto.

safety issue is a load of BULL....Merc should have designed a better car, NOT a Kangaroo....every team has a slight porpoising....but merc designed a TRUCK
they can raise the car 4 inchses and guess what, problems solved....

[Hornet]

Its really disturbing if the proposed changes could turn the performance order in Merc's favor.
We've already suffered many years of Merc dominance.

Now that Merc got the new car wrong and we see some great competition again, they want to go and ruin it.

Merc should just fix their own problem like everyone else, instead of getting race director fired or regulations changed each time the lose.

[Brembo]

Its really disturbing if the proposed changes could turn the performance order in Merc's favor.
We've already suffered many years of Merc dominance.

Now that Merc got the new car wrong and we see some great competition again, they want to go and ruin it.

Merc should just fix their own problem like everyone else, instead of getting race director fired or regulations changed each time the lose.

Masi should have been left alone???

[Kyss4k]

Please rubber gods, spare the rubber on Ferrari tires and take RedBulls instead

[RossTheBoss]

I keep seeing people defend Binotto, but attack the strategy team on Twitter.

I have to ask: what's stopping Binotto from firing the strategy team? It's easy to replace them and Rueda. Just bring some of the engineers from the back to help call the strategy, and give them a chance on the wall, where things can't really can't much worse.

The fact that Binotto won't make this obvious move speaks volumes about his own leadership.

[Brembo]

I keep seeing people defend Binotto, but attack the strategy team on Twitter.
The fact that Binotto won't make this obvious move speaks volumes about his own leadership.

The term leadership should never be used with the name Binotto! I will say he's got something going for him somewhere by still being @ Ferrari as a leader. Ferrari the team and fans are lucky Santander overlooked him!

[Tony]

Regarding Binotto, he delivered a fast car, he is now working on the other elements. He knew this was not a championship year, he over-delivered, he still has to work on the internal structure. The team is going in the right direction, some of you guys needs to relax a little. He knew this was not going to be a championship year because he undoubtedly knew there would be reliability issues given how much they pushed the envelope. If in 2 years time, we're still having the same discussion, then I will agree with you.

[Brembo]

Regarding Binotto, he delivered a fast car, he is now working on the other elements. He knew this was not a championship year, he over-delivered, he still has to work on the internal structure. The team is going in the right direction, some of you guys needs to relax a little. He knew this was not going to be a championship year because he undoubtedly knew there would be reliability issues given how much they pushed the envelope. If in 2 years time, we're still having the same discussion, then I will agree with you.

Far enough. I just want our current 2 drivers to stay with Ferrari and being competitive as they are now. It takes car and driver to be in the race big time.

[paolo lalli]

Ferrari have come a very long way binotto called it this is not a championship year, but there will be race wins, so there no more to be said, the brief has been delivered to the letter.No need to destruct the reasons why and how, not important because ferrari will win a few more races this season no doubt.Red bull were that confident with there base that they actually started this years project last.Ferrari on the other hand was a whole new concept and with that comes inherent risks.Banking on a 1 and 2 finish in Hungary.

[JPZ]

Despite everything, I still think Ferrari is in the best shape since any year from 2008.

Also arguably have the strongest driver pairing in decades.

[SS454]

Easy way to shed accountability. Build a car that is capable of winning on every single track, sometimes having a dominant car, and have the fortune of not having Mercedes part of the battles, and if they lose he can fall back on his words of the titles not being Ferrari's aim?

It will still be a successful season in the grand scheme of things, but Ferrari have a car that can challenge for wins at pretty much every track, not just a few here and there, which means they had a legit chance at both championships. If Binotto didn't change their aim to make a genuine charge at the championships, then he should be replaced. If his and Ferrari's goals are to contend in 2023, then he must have access to a crystal ball and knows what the competition will bring to the table.

[Tony]

Easy way to shed accountability. Build a car that is capable of winning on every single track, sometimes having a dominant car, and have the fortune of not having Mercedes part of the battles, and if they lose he can fall back on his words of the titles not being Ferrari's aim?

It will still be a successful season in the grand scheme of things, but Ferrari have a car that can challenge for wins at pretty much every track, not just a few here and there, which means they had a legit chance at both championships. If Binotto didn't change their aim to make a genuine charge at the championships, then he should be replaced. If his and Ferrari's goals are to contend in 2023, then he must have access to a crystal ball and knows what the competition will bring to the table.

You're not considering the reliability issues that the engineering team no doubt accounted for. That's why the objective was not to win the title, you rarely win a title with an unreliable car.

[stefa]

Early weather forecast says it could rain Saturday and Sunday with only high as 25C at Hungaroring!?

BBC weather says:

[SS454]

You're not considering the reliability issues that the engineering team no doubt accounted for. That's why the objective was not to win the title, you rarely win a title with an unreliable car.

That's part of the development program. Unfortunately their PU department hasn't quite figured out all that quickly. I have less forgiveness for the abundance of mistakes.

[Brembo]

[QUOTE=paolo lalli;1067870]Ferrari have come a very long way binotto called it this is not a championship year, but there will be race wins, so there no more to be said, the brief has been delivered to the letter.No need to destruct the reasons why and how, not important because ferrari will win a few more races this season no doubt.

A few more wins will be great!!After each win Binotto will admit the win. Next thing he will say is 2023 is Ferrari's chance. After each race Binotto knows who won and who didn't.

[FerrariF60]

That's part of the development program. Unfortunately their PU department hasn't quite figured out all that quickly. I have less forgiveness for the abundance of mistakes.

Binotto said a few races ago that our goal this year is not the championship, is get some wins, some poles and then probably work on PU reliability and come back stronger next year....and surely the way the points tally are looking so far we have a slim to none chance at any championships this year

So Binotto knows bette mate, trust him for once

[Cavallino]

Binotto said a few races ago that our goal this year is not the championship, is get some wins, some poles and then probably work on PU reliability and come back stronger next year....and surely the way the points tally are looking so far we have a slim to none chance at any championships this year

So Binotto knows bette mate, trust him for once

he didn't just say it a few races ago, he called it before the start of this season, i think as far back as last year.

what they did to the Ferrari power unit in 2019 was draconian. and for the people that want to say Ferrari should be winning because they had a head start, well no, we were pegged back 3-5 years on that engine.

[Cavallino]

and while you're thinking about that, think about this

That engine didn't start going kaboom until the PU2 development was unleashed

Ferrari knew/knows that the basic design is bulletproof. And they could have just not upgraded and we'd be in a better position in the championship, possibly still leading if not much closer. But that would mean when Ferrari did try to upgrade, they'd start exploding, and we would have to deal with the explosions for the second half of the season or quite possibly until 2026!

[FerrariF60]

and while you're thinking about that, think about this

That engine didn't start going kaboom until the PU2 development was unleashed

Ferrari knew/knows that the basic design is bulletproof. And they could have just not upgraded and we'd be in a better position in the championship, possibly still leading if not much closer. But that would mean when Ferrari did try to upgrade, they'd start exploding, and we would have to deal with the explosions for the second half of the season or quite possibly until 2026!

I think Binotto is smart adn playing his cards right....now we have strongest engine among the manufacturers and hes gonna play the RELIABILITY card to the FIA....

me thinks that from next year ON we're gonna be the class of teh field in terms of PU....

i cannot wait, TEH GOOD DAYS FOR THE SCUDERIA ARE YET TO COME

[Cavallino]

I think Binotto is smart adn playing his cards right....now we have strongest engine among the manufacturers and hes gonna play the RELIABILITY card to the FIA....

me thinks that from next year ON we're gonna be the class of teh field in terms of PU....

i cannot wait, TEH GOOD DAYS FOR THE SCUDERIA ARE YET TO COME

yes, it's a 400 IQ move by Binotto if he pulls it off. Not only engineering wise but politically as well.

[Tony]

That's part of the development program. Unfortunately their PU department hasn't quite figured out all that quickly. I have less forgiveness for the abundance of mistakes.

When it affects the engine though, it's going to generate penalties as we've seen, which puts the team at a significant disadvantage. The Ferrari engine has come a long way this year vs Honda and Mercedes that were farther ahead last year.

I don't think any Ferrari fan is going to be happy with squandered opportunities this year, but when we look at it in context, it's been a promising year.

[jgonzalesm6]

Have $6-8m USD laying around, I would thoroughly recommend bidding on this '98 Ferrari F300 driven by Schumacher.

Chassis 187, which won 4 races in the '98 season is going up for auction at Monterey Car Week on August 20th.

[paneristi]

If you’ve got the tools (competitive cars), and decent people (two very good drivers), yet fail to deliver and have some missing link, that is called mismanagement

[SS454]

Binotto said a few races ago that our goal this year is not the championship, is get some wins, some poles and then probably work on PU reliability and come back stronger next year....and surely the way the points tally are looking so far we have a slim to none chance at any championships this year

So Binotto knows bette mate, trust him for once

Like I said, it's a cop out remark by him. If he said this a few races ago, it makes it even worse. They literally give their drivers the best car on the grid when factored over the entire season up to date, and yet the head management of the team says their goal isn't a championship? That is the wrong mentality.

Actions and results always speak louder than the politically filled words of team bosses anyways.

[Cavallino]

Like I said, it's a cop out remark by him. If he said this a few races ago, it makes it even worse. They literally give their drivers the best car on the grid when factored over the entire season up to date, and yet the head management of the team says their goal isn't a championship? That is the wrong mentality.

Actions and results always speak louder than the politically filled words of team bosses anyways.

maybe on Saturdays but i think everyone here can agree that the total package when you include reliability and straight line speed, it's not the best car on the grid.

But like Christian Horner has said, I'd rather make a fast car reliable than a slow reliable car fast! This is a VERY solid base.

as far as Binotto's comments, he said it last year but he did reiterate it this year and this entire board freaked out.

[jgonzalesm6]

AMuS

2023 calender

Michael Schmidt on the rumors regarding the 2023 F1 calendar: "France is definitely out. South Africa looks more like it will be in 2024, and if that were the case then Spa would stay on the calendar for one more year (2023)."

Michael Schmidt: "China is desperate to have the Grand Prix, F1 has now included the race in the calendar for now. But if the Covid policy doesn't change, I don't think F1 will risk going there. If the GP is cancelled, it will not be replaced, there will only be 23 races."

Michael Schmidt: "The season will start in Bahrain, then there will be a one week break, after that it will be a double header with Jeddah and Melbourne. And after that, there is the question if the race in South Africa will happen or not. That would be the next race."

Michael Schmidt: "The season will be longer, until the middle of December, the season will also start a bit earlier, to create space for the additional races."

[jgonzalesm6]

AMuS

Schmidt said that Binotto told him that Ferrari are even considering a protest should it come to the proposed changes. (regarding the floor)

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/sta...579649/photo/1

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[FerrariF60]

AMuS

2023 calender

Michael Schmidt on the rumors regarding the 2023 F1 calendar: "France is definitely out. South Africa looks more like it will be in 2024, and if that were the case then Spa would stay on the calendar for one more year (2023)."

Michael Schmidt: "China is desperate to have the Grand Prix, F1 has now included the race in the calendar for now. But if the Covid policy doesn't change, I don't think F1 will risk going there. If the GP is cancelled, it will not be replaced, there will only be 23 races."

Michael Schmidt: "The season will start in Bahrain, then there will be a one week break, after that it will be a double header with Jeddah and Melbourne. And after that, there is the question if the race in South Africa will happen or not. That would be the next race."

Michael Schmidt: "The season will be longer, until the middle of December, the season will also start a bit earlier, to create space for the additional races."

WHAT?!?!?!? I had no idea they were looking at removing SPA from the calendar....ARE THEY NUTS???? that race is a MUST....it's an iconic track...what are they thinking???

[FerrariF60]

AMuS

Schmidt said that Binotto told him that Ferrari are even considering a protest should it come to the proposed changes. (regarding the floor)

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/sta...579649/photo/1

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https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/sta...579649/photo/3

about time Binotto grew a back bone....no more Mr. nice guy and let Toto and Co. influence the MIA......i mean FIA

[TTRSMAD]

AMuS

Schmidt said that Binotto told him that Ferrari are even considering a protest should it come to the proposed changes. (regarding the floor)

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/sta...579649/photo/1

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/sta...579649/photo/2

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/sta...579649/photo/3

Mercedes is pulling some strings to get their way for next year. Might not work if they anger most of the teams and protest this safety bullcrap. These same teams saw how fast Mercedes had a solution to the TD in Canada.

Collusion can be spotted.