I think Toto is playing bluff, Lewis wants a multi-year deal and with George doing well, Lewis has lost some leverage. Playing the Charles card, he wants to sign Lewis at a lower salary
Avanti Fer, Avanti !
I think Toto is playing bluff, Lewis wants a multi-year deal and with George doing well, Lewis has lost some leverage. Playing the Charles card, he wants to sign Lewis at a lower salary
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If 2023 proves to be another Ferrari debacle like 2022, we can't blame Charles for looking elsewhere and after so many years of being a Tifoso, I think I may call time on F1 completely if Charles were to leave Ferrari. Let's face it, Liberty are turning F1 into a circus and it really is all about the money.
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If 2023 proves to be another Ferrari debacle like 2022, we can't blame Charles for looking elsewhere and after so many years of being a Tifoso, I think I may call time on F1 completely if Charles were to leave Ferrari. Let's face it, Liberty are turning F1 into a circus and it really is all about the money.
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If 2023 proves to be another Ferrari debacle like 2022, we can't blame Charles for looking elsewhere and after so many years of being a Tifoso, I think I may call time on F1 completely if Charles were to leave Ferrari. Let's face it, Liberty are turning F1 into a circus and it really is all about the money.
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I agree with you (x 3).Originally Posted by wisepie
If 2023 proves to be another Ferrari debacle like 2022, we can't blame Charles for looking elsewhere and after so many years of being a Tifoso, I think I may call time on F1 completely if Charles were to leave Ferrari. Let's face it, Liberty are turning F1 into a circus and it really is all about the money.
If Ferrari is in a position where they aren't competitive (in 2023), Binnoto will probably get sacked.
From then on, Ferrari won't have the needed strength nor the stability to compete for the championship until the next major rule change.
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Masi was gone this year and Lewis has yet to score one single victory.
It is the best championship for a long long time.
Also , Masi gone has not benefitted the score. I say, bring him back, if of course he'd return.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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That goes for me too. This feeling which I don't like but can't help has been creeping up on me for quite a while too!If 2023 proves to be another Ferrari debacle like 2022, we can't blame Charles for looking elsewhere and after so many years of being a Tifoso, I think I may call time on F1 completely if Charles were to leave Ferrari. Let's face it, Liberty are turning F1 into a circus and it really is all about the money.
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No disrespect intended, Liscia, but maybe it's our age! Like everything else in this modern digital world, I find each day a challenge keeping up with the 'advances' made in the name of progress! They just confuse this old fossil. If Charles goes, then so do I....probably.
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You are SO polite wisepie, not even a hint of disrespect detected! You're right too about our ages being
either allergic or immune to contrived hype and baloney! Salute a ti fratello!!
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Forget Massi we fans need Flavio back!!!
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Can anyone tell me why do you people think that Charles is looking elsewhere?
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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There have been unconfirmed rumours from various sources suggesting that's what he needs to do to become WDC, that's all. He has always maintained he wants the championship with Ferrari and I believe him but he's not going to waste precious years in a car or team that can't support him 100%.
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Couldn't have put it better myself, auguri anche a te, sorella!
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Hungry for WDC and wins Ferrari cant give him at the moment,maybe Audi 2026.Can anyone tell me why do you people think that Charles is looking elsewhere?
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Hopefully by then he’ll have at least one, maybe more wdc,s with Ferrari
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Io sono masche wisepie. Liscia (in Italiano) a word play on my wife's name Alicia;)
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Scusami, ancora una volta, no offence intended! Saluti amico, anche a Alicia!
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Wisepie Io sono contento che lo abbia chiarito!
bonne chance Charles
Whilst I agree with what you say I would hate to see him go. Miracles do happen i supported Felipe at Williams while staying loyal to Ferrari.
I hate to think how i would view F1
I need a driver to support as well as the team.
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Forza Jules
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If the current strategy/decision-making system stays in place at Ferrari, I don't see how anything will improve next year.
I'm worried Leclerc will reach breaking point and leave.
Elkann apparently told him '2026' will be when Ferrari would be able to compete for the title, which would be 19 years since the last WDC.
I don't understand how he could say that, next year must be the year!
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Which will, of course, be when Mercedes drop the ball and it all goes pear-shaped!
Trying to be less angry..
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Sad but true.If 2023 proves to be another Ferrari debacle like 2022, we can't blame Charles for looking elsewhere and after so many years of being a Tifoso, I think I may call time on F1 completely if Charles were to leave Ferrari. Let's face it, Liberty are turning F1 into a circus and it really is all about the money.
Trying to be less angry..
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Maybe it's the other way around.
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it will be better next year because it cannot get worse. how much lower you can go when you have the fastest car and engine?
of course it well get better only if they fix that reliability issues and finally being able to push the engine 100% and also fix the tire eating issues as well and ferrari will be in the mix.
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[QUOTE=wisepie;1072700]Scusami, ancora una volta, no offence intended! Saluti amic
This is a prime example of why you and the rest of us tifosi are the best! Been away from my magic box
so excuse this late reply.
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Niente problema amicO!!
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I’m referring specifically to strategy, not car performance or reliability, which I believe will at least be competitive and hopefully the fastest.
However, the strategy department and pit wall communication will have to improve next year in order to maximise the potential of the car and drivers.
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Let them race is the best race to watch and keep us fans happy! Just think how Russell's fans feel now!!! NO last second "Let Lewis pass!! "
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Gazzetta reporting that starting from January 2023, Frederic Vasseur will be the Ferrari team principal, replacing Mattia Binotto.
Apparently John Elkann considered Vasseur as a replacement already last summer, because the Ferrari management was looking for a potential Binotto replacement..
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Recent Team Principals of the top 3…
Red Bull Team Principal -
Christian Horner 2005 - Present
Mercedes Team Principal -
Toto Wolff 2013 - Present
Ferrari Team Principal(s)
Stefano Domenicali 2008–April 2014
Marco Mattiacci April–November 2014
Maurizio Arrivabene 2015–2018
Mattia Binotto 2019-?
Fred Vasseur??
It’s obvious that Ferrari lacks stability….maybe they make mistakes picking team leaders. Whatever the case, we are constantly in a re-build. It is frustrating as a fan.
With whatever changes are made on top, hopefully we clearly identify a #1 driver, change the strategists and start to flex our weight again.
~FORZA FERRARI~
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