2022 Bahrain Grand Prix Thread (Practice & Qualifying)

[Kyss4k]

I use F1TV Pro, it defaults to their own commentary, they seem to have dropped the pit lane channel. Sky is under the international coverage option, there are buttons on the right hand side you want to pick the 2nd from the top for Sky.

Holy moly thaaanks! I had a 30 minutes chat with an F1 support and they wanted my IP adress, tried to get me to reinstall my browser, remove all VPNs (even though I don't use one) but newer tried to tell me this was an option :D Thanks again, have a cookie.

[Grimlock]

Holy moly thaaanks! I had a 30 minutes chat with an F1 support and they wanted my IP adress, tried to get me to reinstall my browser, remove all VPNs (even though I don't use one) but newer tried to tell me this was an option :D Thanks again, have a cookie.

Hehe, tech support not knowing their own interface ... ah F1 TV is professional as always. Cheers!

[elnano14]

I heard the reason Lewis's top speed was only 298kph because his DRS was damaged

[PURE PASSION]

Maybe things are a bit worse from what ot looks !!!

Verstappen vs Leclerc | Telemetry Comparison:
In FP2 Red Bull stepped up: 0.087 on their main rivals, gains in sector 1 and sector 3. Looking at the sector times you may think that the RB18 gains time on the straight, but it is the opposite surprisingly: Verstappen makes most of his time up in the corners, while Leclerc eats up that advantage down the straights, especially in the acceleration zones. The feeling is that the RB18 is the better car (also looking at race pace), and Ferrari are maybe a bit further away than what Leclerc showed.
Hamilton 'proved' my point: he thinks Red Bull are about 0.8/0.9s in front of Mercedes, with Ferrari "at least 0.5s ahead". My guess would be that between the Ferrari and the Red Bull there were 0.2/0.3s today, we'll see tomorrow

[Tony]

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As i said , looks like Max is in front ,both qualy and race pace.BUT Lec is very close behind and if tomorrow we can make (from engine,bit better set up?) a small step forward compare to Max, then he will be on top again both qualy and the race.
According to both Lec and Binnoto ,indeed we have some pace reserved , the question is how much is this compare to RedBulls

I can't make heads or tales of that table, but it seems the guy on Twitter that presented this information seems to think the Red Bull is quicker in race pace?

[FerrariF60]

after we unload the sand bags and turn up the wick in Q3 tomorrow, itll be a Ferrari 1-2

[Redfive]

I'm reeeeeeeeeeeeeally trying not to get excited. I know if I get excited then Merc will drop the sandbags and beat us, so I'm trying to remain totally calm until lights out on Sunday. but it's not easy

[Aziz]

Maybe things are a bit worse from what ot looks !!!

Would be such a shame that we end up 0.3-0.4 from RB after we spent two years developing this car while they developed last year car till the last race

[subfire91]

Understood and great post. You are correct on post 4 but I honestly don't know how many kg they dropped from tests to Bahrain to make a comparison but you are correct that they are lighter.

RedBull have also introduced a suspension to counter the porpoising effect and both Max and Checo have these suspesions on their cars currently.

if they managed just 2-3 kg is easily the difference between charles and max

Maybe things are a bit worse from what ot looks !!!

dont forget that they heavily updated they ca r so far. we basically did nothing just did minor mods on the floor and diffuser and a connecting rod. no revised sidepods no revised floors and no suspension revisions. we are almost vanilla. if its .2s atm i will take it!!! on the assumption we will introduce significant updates quickly and effectively.

ps: if haas can do 320 on the straight my opinion is we easily can do 325 on Q3

[FerrariF60]

Would be such a shame that we end up 0.3-0.4 from RB after we spent two years developing this car while they developed last year car till the last race

i'm pretty sure they TOO spent the last 2 years developing the car just like we did
dont think for a sec that them developing last years car dropped the ball on this years

[FerrariF60]

if they managed just 2-3 kg is easily the difference between charles and max



dont forget that they heavily updated they ca r so far. we basically did nothing just did minor mods on the floor and diffuser and a connecting rod. no revised sidepods no revised floors and no suspension revisions. we are almost vanilla. if its .2s atm i will take it!!! on the assumption we will introduce significant updates quickly and effectively.

ps: if haas can do 320 on the straight my opinion is we easily can do 325 on Q3

EXACTLY......

[faloupas]

Would be such a shame that we end up 0.3-0.4 from RB after we spent two years developing this car while they developed last year car till the last race

+1

We are Ferrari ,we expect to be in front...always...if we are not then there is a problem!You just cannot support Ferrari and any other legendary team in any kind of sports and not expect winning!!

[Ferrarichamp]

Maybe Max will be fastest in Bahrain, but that doesn't mean RB will be quickest everywhere. If we don't win, we might still get a double podium, which would be a decent start for the constructor's title.

[stefa]

Maybe Max will be fastest in Bahrain, but that doesn't mean RB will be quickest everywhere. If we don't win, we might still get a double podium, which would be a decent start for the constructor's title.

Exactly !!!

[tifosi1993]

It's race sim, not the actual race pace. After today's positive run, you'd atleast expect to see some positivity here. But it's always the same doom and gloom.

[FerrariF60]

Maybe Max will be fastest in Bahrain, but that doesn't mean RB will be quickest everywhere. If we don't win, we might still get a double podium, which would be a decent start for the constructor's title.

YEAH, to me the constructor's title is worth more then teh WDC....but that's just my opinion i guess

[FerrariF60]

It's race sim, not the actual race pace. After today's positive run, you'd atleast expect to see some positivity here. But it's always the same doom and gloom.

yeah, no doubt....the fans on this forum are NEVER satisfied.....lol

[SS454]

Exciting to see F1 cars running around during a GP weekend. Through testing, I only got to see highlights.

Ferrari do look good, one of the easiest cars to drive which I think will be a strong point during the races.
Charles Leclerc really seems like he is gelling with the F1-75. It would make sense that Ferrari designed this car around Charles much more than Carlos.
Ferrari's front wing flexes a lot, you can see it at the flap adjuster. I expect Mercedes or RBR to lodge a complaint soon enough.
Ferrari power might actually be very potent. Haas and Alfa Romeo are also looking quite strong.
Haas appear MUCH better than I expected, which I hope is the case.
Alfa Romeo may be quick, but I think they will be lucky not to double DNF without being incredibly conservative during the race.
Red Bull indeed look very strong. It would seem they were either running a higher engine mode, or the car has much better drag at the top end. 317 kph to Ferrari's 311.
Verstappen once again looks like he's in a league of his own in terms of what he can get out of his car. Perez way off in comparison.
Mercedes looks pretty awful. The porpoising problem is dreadful and they seem to be throwing every part and the kitchen sink at it to resolve it. I suspect the car is fast, but a car that sensitive is going to be a handful over a race.
I honestly expect George Russell to outperform Lewis. He has been driving a junk car for years, while Lewis has had the luxury of the easiest and best car for 8 years.
Hamilton's helmet looks amazing! I love the color.
Alpine might be stronger than I expected, which is wonderful. Would love to see Alonso have a car capable of being in some fights for the podium.
Aston Martin still looks like trash, and I really hope Hulk beats Stroll.
Williams back at bottom? If so, that's rough.
I hate to say it, but I think the idea of 3 or 4 teams being capable of winning is very doubtful. Either Red Bull and Ferrari will have a close fight, or Red Bull (just Max) is going to blow everyone away. Then Ferrari will likely have a big gap to Mercedes, who will probably have a big gap to the 4th best team.


Skysport coverage. I really hate to think they got rid of Button and Rosberg to bring in some nobody. Not sure who the new girl is, never heard of her. It's not that she's bad, she just doesn't have the drivers analyst side that a former F1 driver has. The one driver they do have is that pompous idiot in Damon Hill. I swear he gets a hard on with any mention of Hamilton or George, and yet looks to make Red Bull and Max as the evil villains any chance he gets. It's actually quite comical how Christian Horner and Hill react to each other.

[Greig]

So because Charles is looking more at home in a new era after 2 practice sessions it means the car is designed around him?

Also Jenson and Nico etc were never full time at Sky and they will probably still be around through the year.

[FerrariF60]

So because Charles is looking more at home in a new era after 2 practice sessions it means the car is designed around him?

according to our aero specialist SS454 thats the way it is......lmao

[paolo lalli]

Forget all this mercedes talk,as I have said before they have major issues with current spec,with budget caps now in play the issue is no easy fix.Mercedes will be lucky to be in top 8 teams come quali any thing better than that would astound me,this race is a ferrari vs redbull slug fest.I expect an organisation like mercedes to come back somewhat in the next month or so.Expect the unexpected.

[SS454]

So because Charles is looking more at home in a new era after 2 practice sessions it means the car is designed around him?

No. Because it didn't take long for Ferrari to invest in a future with Charles. Since the design of the 2022 car started a couple years ago, long before Carlos joined the team, it makes sense that the car is designed more around Charles. Even going forward, it would make sense for Ferrari to develop the car more towards Charles' liking, since everyone seems to believe he's one of the elite drivers on the grid.

[Greig]

No. Because it didn't take long for Ferrari to invest in a future with Charles. Since the design of the 2022 car started a couple years ago, long before Carlos joined the team, it makes sense that the car is designed more around Charles. Even going forward, it would make sense for Ferrari to develop the car more towards Charles' liking, since everyone seems to believe he's one of the elite drivers on the grid.

I believe we only got it on the simulator last year....also last year we heard many rumours that Sainz was leading the development of the car...

[jgonzalesm6]

Maybe things are a bit worse from what ot looks !!!

I can't make heads or tales of that table, but it seems the guy on Twitter that presented this information seems to think the Red Bull is quicker in race pace?

Would be such a shame that we end up 0.3-0.4 from RB after we spent two years developing this car while they developed last year car till the last race

if they managed just 2-3 kg is easily the difference between charles and max



dont forget that they heavily updated they ca r so far. we basically did nothing just did minor mods on the floor and diffuser and a connecting rod. no revised sidepods no revised floors and no suspension revisions. we are almost vanilla. if its .2s atm i will take it!!! on the assumption we will introduce significant updates quickly and effectively.

ps: if haas can do 320 on the straight my opinion is we easily can do 325 on Q3

EXACTLY......

+1

We are Ferrari ,we expect to be in front...always...if we are not then there is a problem!You just cannot support Ferrari and any other legendary team in any kind of sports and not expect winning!!

Guys, this is all speculation and hypotheticals. Just wait for quali and the race to see where EVERYONE stands in this one Grand Prix.

[SS454]

I believe we only got it on the simulator last year....also last year we heard many rumors that Sainz was leading the development of the car...

I'm sure you can understand that they had to have a complete design to put in the simulator. Typically a team starts working on the next year's car in March or April. Just from this strategy they would have very little input from Carlos to apply in a new car. With the budget cap and rule changes, Ferrari almost certainly started their 2022 program much earlier.

But keep looking for a point to argue I guess.

[Tifoso Svedese]

It looks like we have a great chance at winning the constructors' if we can keep our heads above the water (Pérez and the Mercedes cars).

Hard to say what the Verstappen-Leclerc state of affairs actually is though.

[Greig]

I'm sure you can understand that they had to have a complete design to put in the simulator. Typically a team starts working on the next year's car in March or April. Just from this strategy they would have very little input from Carlos to apply in a new car. With the budget cap and rule changes, Ferrari almost certainly started their 2022 program much earlier.

But keep looking for a point to argue I guess.

This car was meant to be 2021....still does not mean its designed around Charles considering all the rules that needed to be sorted out etc....as for a complete design for the simulator...well maybe not they can just use any model and programme in expected aero/engine/tyres etc it does not need to be a completed model. Then we also consider our poor simulator to track record and the fact we just got an all new simulator to try and make things better when Carlos was already at the team....then we can also look at Charles saying he had not even been in the new simulator (December 21).....I could go on but not much point....

Maybe you can tell by looking at it that it's designed for Charles I guess, just another of your throwaway comments that holds no weight....

[Gilles]

Guys, this is all speculation and hypotheticals. Just wait for quali and the race to see where EVERYONE stands in this one Grand Prix.

Obviously, these are speculations, but I like the quality of many of them. It's interesting and it leads to constructive exchanges. We will complain ?

[SS454]

This car was meant to be 2021....still does not mean its designed around Charles considering all the rules that needed to be sorted out etc....as for a complete design for the simulator...well maybe not they can just use any model and programme in expected aero/engine/tyres etc it does not need to be a completed model.

Maybe you can tell by looking at it that it's designed for Charles I guess, just another of your throwaway comments that holds no weight....

I forgot that the cars were to be for 2021, makes it even more likely to be designed around Charles than Carlos.

I have to assume you know that cars get designed around a driver, which is why drive input is so important. Schumacher with Ferrari, Vettel with his Red Bulls, Verstappen with Red Bull now. This isn't some revelation that nobody knows about. You just want to argue, which is all you do.

So what happens if Leclerc mops the floor with Sainz? So far he's looked pretty strong and comfortable. Sainz comes in 2021 and not only holds his own against Charles, but ends up finishing ahead in the standings. So he has proven capable.

You want to talk about throwaway comments, all you do is bring argumentative posts.

[Gilles]

This car was meant to be 2021....still does not mean its designed around Charles considering all the rules that needed to be sorted out etc....as for a complete design for the simulator...well maybe not they can just use any model and programme in expected aero/engine/tyres etc it does not need to be a completed model. Then we also consider our poor simulator to track record and the fact we just got an all new simulator to try and make things better when Carlos was already at the team....then we can also look at Charles saying he had not even been in the new simulator (December 21).....I could go on but not much point....

Maybe you can tell by looking at it that it's designed for Charles I guess, just another of your throwaway comments that holds no weight....

I agree with you on this point