2022 Spanish Grand Prix - Buildup, Practice & Qualifying Thread

[Grimlock]

So on the softs Max's sector 3 was quite badly compromised by traffic so can't really compare. But I don't see proposing on the Ferraris, there are some bumps at the end of the start/finish straight, that's not proposing. Still early to call it is just Friday.

[RossTheBoss]

LOL! The lady with the Lewis flag. Truly Hamilton's fans are out of touch with how screwed he really is. He'll be lucky to ever win another grand prix at this rate.

[458 Italia]

Do I need to remind you, this is Ferrari forum!!!! Go elseware and glory your LH and Mercedes!!!!

His low level trolling is very tiresome.

[tifosi1993]

As always it will be Charles vs Max at the front. But hopefully Carlos will be up there as well. His one lap pace is quite good but he can't hold any candles to either Charles or Max on the race day, so far. But I don't expect him to, all he has to do is put pressure on Max.

Not expecting Perez to mount any big challenge here.

[Grimlock]

Charles did quite a few laps on his soft tire run, might be wrong but it seemed to be a longer run then the one done by Max.

[tifosi1993]

The new RW is working as expected. Top speed is equal to Red Bull. Ferrari fastest in the sector 2 and 3 quite easily.

[Grimlock]

The new RW is working as expected. Top speed is equal to Red Bull. Ferrari fastest in the sector 2 and 3 quite easily.

And that's using the first PU as far as I recall, some more power in PU 2.

[speedmaster]

Are we running older rear wing? the spoon area still looks huge.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Looking good so far for sure.

[458 Italia]

Sky love making excuses for hamilton

[tifosi1993]

Long run pace is looking quite good. But it's FP1, more to come.

[Kyss4k]

Ok, so we AGAIN decided to pospone some upgrades to later date acting like we are ahead by half a second and only bring a floor which should have solve the porpoising and it didn't work... still bouncing. This should have been the BIG upgrade after being basically the only team not developing the car at all since now. It's still the same song... making a great car out of the gates (2010, 2017, 2018) but being outdevelopped by literally everyone. I wonder what are they doing in the factory.

[Grimlock]

Ok, so we AGAIN decided to pospone some upgrades to later date acting like we are ahead by half a second and only bring a floor which should have solve the porpoising and it didn't work... still bouncing. This should have been the BIG upgrade after being basically the only team not developing the car at all since now. It's still the same song... making a great car out of the gates (2010, 2017, 2018) but being outdevelopped by literally everyone. I wonder what are they doing in the factory.

Can you provide a replay of the Ferrari bouncing? I could not see bouncing on the onboard during the fastest laps of both Charles and Carlos, again there are clear bumps at the end of the straight and what you are seeing there is not proposing and its quite minor to boot.

[icedeepan]

Ok, so we AGAIN decided to pospone some upgrades to later date acting like we are ahead by half a second and only bring a floor which should have solve the porpoising and it didn't work... still bouncing. This should have been the BIG upgrade after being basically the only team not developing the car at all since now. It's still the same song... making a great car out of the gates (2010, 2017, 2018) but being outdevelopped by literally everyone. I wonder what are they doing in the factory.

Only bring a floor? There is a huge amount to gain by getting that right in these new era cars and they have also bought an updated rear wing amongst other small bits. If these work as expected, there will be more confidence that the other parts in the pipeline will work as well for the team and we are only on race 6 of 21.

[RossTheBoss]

Can you provide a replay of the Ferrari bouncing? I could not see bouncing on the onboard during the fastest laps of both Charles and Carlos, again there are clear bumps at the end of the straight and what you are seeing there is not proposing and its quite minor to boot.

This. I haven't seen any porpoising to speak of. The car is obviously going to hit the bumps, just like Red Bull does.

Italian media gets ahead of what Ferrari are working on, and confuses it with what they intend to bring. It's happened several times.

[tifosi1993]

Ok, so we AGAIN decided to pospone some upgrades to later date acting like we are ahead by half a second and only bring a floor which should have solve the porpoising and it didn't work... still bouncing. This should have been the BIG upgrade after being basically the only team not developing the car at all since now. It's still the same song... making a great car out of the gates (2010, 2017, 2018) but being outdevelopped by literally everyone. I wonder what are they doing in the factory.

Porpoising!? I didn't see any violent bouncing. The track is bumpy and 2022 cars have stiffer suspension.

Maybe use your head more and talk less.

[Grimlock]

I don't see any porpoising here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mzp...CLPp-SxtxH6_ON

[tifosi1993]

FP1:

C. LECLERC: 22.391 -- 29.929 -- 27.508 -- 1:19.828 -- 325

C. SAINZ: 22.423 -- 30.043 -- 27.441 -- 1:19.907 -- 321

M. Verstappen: 22.289 -- 30.034 -- 27.663 -- 1:20.164 -- 324

G. Russell: 22.509 -- 30.273 -- 27.770 -- 1:20.590 -- 324

F. Alonso: 22.532 -- 30.272 -- 27.964 -- 1:20.768 -- 319

L. Hamilton: 22.526 -- 30.222 -- 27.875 -- 1:20.811 -- 316

L. Norris: 22.819 -- 30.523 -- 27.882 -- 1:21.279 -- 316

P. Gasly: 22.628 -- 30.601 -- 28.060 -- 1:21.422 -- 322

D. Ricciardo: 22.848 -- 30.612 -- 28.199 -- 1:21.737 -- 316

Y. Tsunoda: 22.676 -- 30.782 -- 28.317 -- 1:21.814 -- 322

E. Ocon: 22.858 -- 30.728 -- 28.305 -- 1:21.891 -- 318

L. Stroll: 22.996 -- 30.781 -- 28.122 -- 1:21.920 -- 316

R. Kubica: 22.864 -- 30.849 -- 28.262 -- 1:21.975 -- 317

K. Magnussen: 22.824 -- 31.004 -- 28.261 -- 1:22.089 -- 321

M. Schumacher: 23.021 -- 30.732 -- 28.385 -- 1:22.146 -- 324

S. Vettel: 22.916 -- 30.660 -- 28.588 -- 1:22.164 -- 316

V. Bottas: 23.009 -- 31.174 -- 28.197 -- 1:22.614 -- 324

N. De Vries: 22.966 -- 31.047 -- 28.714 -- 1:22.920 -- 323

N. Latifi: 23.032 -- 31.225 -- 28.754 -- 1:23.011 -- 322

J. Vips: 22.894 -- 31.140 -- 29.160 -- 1:24.138 -- 324

[Kyss4k]

Only bring a floor? There is a huge amount to gain by getting that right in these new era cars and they have also bought an updated rear wing amongst other small bits. If these work as expected, there will be more confidence that the other parts in the pipeline will work as well for the team and we are only on race 6 of 21.

I really don't care how much that floor brings. I was expecting way way more after not touching the car for 2 months. I can't be satisfied by just a little.

[icedeepan]

I really don't care how much that floor brings. I was expecting way way more after not touching the car for 2 months. I can't be satisfied by just a little.

There isnt a need to change whats working well at this stage. Ferrari are doing the right thing by addressing the weaker areas first and a floor/rear wing combo is very logical to solve the porpoising and top speed issues, which limit the top performance range of the car and then focus on taking the things working well to the next level (sidepods, PU)

[PURE PASSION]

I really don't care how much that floor brings. I was expecting way way more after not touching the car for 2 months. I can't be satisfied by just a little.

Sorry mate, but this isn't a quantity competition its about results. The team has a plan . As I always say THIS is FERRARI. This is how the team works and this what they can achieve. If you don't like it then clearly you don't like THIS TEAM!!! You and some others might find another ream that suits your own standards!!!

[WS6TransAm01]

I really don't care how much that floor brings. I was expecting way way more after not touching the car for 2 months. I can't be satisfied by just a little.

I agree. They held off on these updates while losing three races and for what? Only to be on par with RBR? That's unacceptable.

Max's lap was heavily compromised, for all we know he could still be 1-2 tenths ahead.

Why does this always have to be a constant with Ferrari? Late updates which underdeliver? Why!?

[Silent Bob]

I really don't care how much that floor brings. I was expecting way way more after not touching the car for 2 months. I can't be satisfied by just a little.

Does it matter more the quantity of what they bring or the quality? If a new floor and the new rear wing brings us 4/10ths and puts us clear of Red Bull will you still be disappointed?

[Kyss4k]

Sorry mate, but this isn't a quantity competition its about results. The team has a plan . As I always say THIS is FERRARI. This is how the team works and this what they can achieve. If you don't like it then clearly you don't like THIS TEAM!!! You and some others might find another ream that suits your own standards!!!

Ok so that porpoising that you could clearly see at 53:50 in FP1 is a great quality working floor which is above quantity. Right. No... I love Ferrari, I love the brand. I hate the how we are losing in the development race year after year. If anyone likes that, I am sorry, but you are crazy. Or you like losing, take a pick. I live to win.

[Kyss4k]

Does it matter more the quantity of what they bring or the quality? If a new floor and the new rear wing brings us 4/10ths and puts us clear of Red Bull will you still be disappointed?

I still saw the car porpoise 53:50 it's clearly visible, so where is the quality?

[Silent Bob]

I agree. They held off on these updates while losing three races and for what? Only to be on par with RBR? That's unacceptable.

Max's lap was heavily compromised, for all we know he could still be 1-2 tenths ahead.

Why does this always have to be a constant with Ferrari? Late updates which underdeliver? Why!?

How do we know they underdeliver? Leclerc had best top speed is that good? It's only FP1 and obviously the PU's are turned down.

[PURE PASSION]

Again,we your standards Ferrari clearly is not enough (because as you(plural) say they are bad decades now.
So why you keep support a team that you dislike 9 out 10 thing's the do????!!!!! I really can't understand what do you expect?? To be a Merc of the years before?? OK and if they don't, what?? You are just keep moaning for ever ??? You are mentally OK with this????I'm asking this ,because myself if I ever start feeling this bad for the team ,I will definitely stop supporting them simply because clearly I will not like this team any more !!!!!!
It's one thing to feel bad about teams bad results/ choices and another to say speak so dad about them and talking like the are the worst team ever !!!

[icedeepan]

I still saw the car porpoise 53:50 it's clearly visible, so where is the quality?

FP1 mate. Only see the real results post all the setup optimisation tonight.

[faloupas]

Ok so that porpoising that you could clearly see at 53:50 in FP1 is a great quality working floor which is above quantity. Right. No... I love Ferrari, I love the brand. I hate the how we are losing in the development race year after year. If anyone likes that, I am sorry, but you are crazy. Or you like losing, take a pick. I live to win.

You are in my mind my friend!I feel the same!
I want Ferrari to be ahead as Mercedes used to be! Mediocrity is not for Ferrari!Ok we support the team but we say what we see!
Where is the big upgrade package people?

[stefa]

I don't see any porpoising here.
[video]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mzpeCffBms1WuBBBo3CLPp-SxtxH6_ON[/url]

Smooth as maglev!