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1) this is a track more suitable for Mercedes in general due to the lack of straights taking over the track. Being down on power doesn't mean that much here.
2) we're running very conservatively. Still slower than the fastest time recorded during testing.
3) Mercedes did glory runs at Imola and Miami.
We'll see what happens but I think both our guys have them covered this weekend.
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Long run time
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we and prolly red bull sure are.....i mean unless all of a sudden the Merc tractor found some serious pace with their upgrades....which is probably unlikely....Originally Posted by PURE PASSION
but yeah, NO ONE is really showing their hand yet....only russel and alo doing some glory runs probably
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On race pace we are not keeping up with Red Bull and are even somehow with Mercedes.
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Can Anyone have the times on race pace??!!
Unfortunately Sainz reported high degradation!!!!
FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!
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I don't have times, but Charles started quite even on pace with Verstappen (little bit slower actually) and now, after 7 laps, he is like 8 tenths slower.
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How are merc the fastest on the straights!?
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Yeh ,it looks like we are in trouble with the tires!!!!!
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Last lap (lap 8 of race stint)
Leclerc 1:26.8
Verstappen 1:26.1
"If he can't do it with Ferrari, well, he can't do it." - John Surtees
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An actual upgrades.
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Really sad to hear we are troubling with race pace/tyre degredation. I was really hoping this update would bring us in front again…
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Or, hey, maybe just maybe, they're glory running like Miami.
We have no idea the different variables behind the runs, and until Q3, there's no way to know for sure who's doing what, and what can be trusted.
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Abysmal tire degradation, even Merc is faster
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I wouldn't read too much into it; Ferrari will analyze the data and make changes to set up so that we dont' chew up the tires as much...FP3 will tell us the bigger picture
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LOL....
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They have 0 porpoising, they are fast not only on 1 lap pace, but even in race pace, so no glory running here. There is no reason to glory run the race pace test.
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Good god, some people just don't know how to not doom.
It's practice, ffs.
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What is so funny?
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Hard to tell, the tires were not the same age. Charles was way deeper into his stint than Max, Carlos was more comparable once he switched to the mediums, and Charles was way faster once he did his switch.
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It was practice I'm Mami as well, with the same picture as know
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Fuel loads and how aggressively you run the ERS may differ during the race test. If you stay in low deployment mode to save the battery compared to the medium one it will mean a few tenths by default. I find it very hard to believe we'd be 0.6 s off in race trim on identical fuel loads when our main strengths are in S2 and S3. If you run the car 5-10 laps lighter it also helps a lot with combating degradation.
Either way, maybe three stops could be an option on Sunday due to the relatively short delta for a pit stop loss here? Committing to it before the race would make it a lot easier to pull off.
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They didn't porpoise in Miami FP1 either.
We also had zero porpoising, but because you're addicted to dooming you see every bump we hit as evidence the season is over.
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Long run pace needs some work. But I'm sure Ferrari will get on top of it. Tyres didn't look too bad considering they had already done more than 20 laps on them.
Sunday is going to be 2 stopper.
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Probably.
Max also complained of degradations, even with his seemingly better pace. We just don't know everyones fuel and engine modes, and what part of a stint they were practicing for.
Some fans just get too worked up over practice and testing and doom, doom, doom if we're not glory running.
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FP2:
C. LECLERC: 22.389 -- 29.662 -- 27.619 -- 1:19.670 -- 317
G. Russell: 22.404 -- 29.763 -- 27.620 -- 1:19.787 -- 319
L. Hamilton: 22.349 -- 29.829 -- 27.696 -- 1:19.874 -- 318
C. SAINZ: 22.491 -- 29.876 -- 27.623 -- 1:19.990 -- 317
M. Verstappen: 22.317 -- 29.956 -- 27.589 -- 1:20.006 -- 321
F. Alonso: 22.356 -- 30.019 -- 27.828 -- 1:20.203 -- 317
S. Perez: 22.446 -- 30.225 -- 27.836 -- 1:20.632 -- 322
S. Vettel: 22.665 -- 30.102 -- 27.936 -- 1:20.703 -- 314
E. Ocon: 22.520 -- 30.427 -- 27.798 -- 1:20.745 -- 316
M. Schumacher: 22.614 -- 30.301 -- 27.842 -- 1:20.757 -- 319
P. Gasly: 22.630 -- 30.276 -- 28.011 -- 1:20.917 -- 318
K. Magnussen: 22.595 -- 30.147 -- 28.221 -- 1:21.013 -- 318
L. Stroll: 22.752 -- 30.556 -- 27.917 -- 1:21.249 -- 315
Y. Tsunoda: 22.680 -- 30.449 -- 28.156 -- 1:21.285 -- 324
D. Ricciardo: 22.896 -- 30.406 -- 28.083 -- 1:21.385 -- 312
V. Bottas: 22.912 -- 30.885 -- 28.031 -- 1:21.828 -- 310
G. Zhou: 22.827 -- 30.773 -- 28.200 -- 1:21.866 -- 314
A. Albon: 22.784 -- 30.949 -- 28.586 -- 1:22.319 -- 321
N. Latifi: 23.047 -- 31.236 -- 28.756 -- 1:23.197 -- 322
L. Norris: 22.807 -- 31.552 -- 28.914 -- 1:23.388 -- 308
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Max was also on fresher tires because both Ferraris went out quite earlier than he did. Same with Merc they were out on fresher tires, I specifically looked at the times posted by Carlos after he switched to mediums and compared them with Max and he was faster and by the amount you would expect with degenration. And Charles switched his tires two laps from the end and was 2s faster than Max.
There are just too many variables to really know what the relative pace is, as tire age is just once factor as many of us keep pointing out. But it seems some just like being negative just to be negative.
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No he wasn't. They came out of the pits at the exact same time.
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Not probably, tyre wear can definitely be improved with setup. This is what practice is for, to learn and adapt the setup.
But I get you, some people are pushing seemingly deliberate negativity here, nothing but low effort trolling.
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Yep, just re-watched it and you are right.
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Charles started his stint on 9 laps old tires, don't know about verstappen.
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