2022 Monaco Grand Prix - Race Thread

[jgonzalesm6]

its only benefical when you know the timing of what and when.

but today, sainz was better on guessing when and which tyres should be changed (than so called strategists)

Sure looked like it.

[jgonzalesm6]

Yeah and the same articles will tell you many other teams do not agree. So they can't just break the budget cap.

Time will tell.

[ntukza]

Disagree. [B] The pit wall strategists have more information on everyone's times and when to pit[B] (coming out on traffic) to include the pit delta window ANNND who pitted for the undercut or overcut all live streaming on their laptops.

Unfortunately, the Ferrari strategists were eating pasta with their vino at this time. It caught them off guard.

Clearly not OUR pit wall. It seems I had more info than them because the minute Perez pit and got to what was very clearly the faster tyre at the time, I knew immediately that we should pit the next lap. The pit wall had no idea.

[nani_s23]

Ferrari has protested Verstappen crossing the yellow line on pit exit.

[ntukza]

This time i couldn't agree with you more!

Looks like our pitwall are a back to their tricks again. This wasn't a simple error......this was an embarrassing!!! We cant do this ***** man!!! not on a track where we should have won easily!........I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous!

+1

[ntukza]

I totally agree with you, but the rules should be followed and he should be penalized.
You see this is Redbull's advantage over us they keep bitching and nagging about everything and they try to put pressure on us before and after every race and yet all we do is accept it gracefully.
Unless we become cold blooded and don't care about our competitors we're never gonna be champions again, Sadly.

I don't disagree with you, but I think we should focus on fixing ourselves first before trying to fix the FIA.

[nani_s23]

Seeing leclerc radio convo with Mattia. Charles is very disappointed.

He is doing what all he can, but the team is binning his chances. We need a rocket engine or upgrade just like Lewis got in Brazil 2021. Smoke those RB’s.

[Super M]

[QUOTE=ntukza;1062386]Clearly not OUR pit wall. It seems I had more info than them because the minute Perez pit and got to what was very clearly the faster tyre at the time, I knew immediately that we should pit the next lap. The pit wall had no idea.[/QUO


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[nani_s23]

Seeing leclerc radio convo with Mattia. Charles is very disappointed.

He is doing what all he can, but the team is binning his chances. We need a rocket engine or upgrade just like Lewis got in Brazil 2021. Smoke those RB’s.

[stasera]

I still have headache. I can't imagine the situation of Leclerc. He must be so frustrated with the team

[Schumiklub]

I want to just cry, this is so disheartening.

[RossTheBoss]

Yeah and the same articles will tell you many other teams do not agree. So they can't just break the budget cap.

Ferrari will have to breach the cap as well. Binotto said as much.

Red Bull and Mercedes both will use inflation as an excuse to bring updates late in the season, and cook the books like they did last year.

[MSC Fan]

Apparently, Albon held Charles up for a lap straight despite blue flags and cost us 3 seconds. It isn't just the pitwall at fault, the dumb gooses at FIA share some portion of the blame as well. Not to mention Latifi held Charles again for some 3-4 corners when he was about 0.8-1 seconds away from Verstappen.

[ntukza]

I still can't get over the fact that we qualified 1 and 2 in Monaco, our drivers drove fast and faultlessly and we still managed to lose the race! Ferrari getting pole has become absolutely meaningless.

[aquaria]

Ferrari has protested Verstappen crossing the yellow line on pit exit.

Who knows to which address did that protest go, given their incompetence.

[Greig]

Ferrari will have to breach the cap as well. Binotto said as much.

Red Bull and Mercedes both will use inflation as an excuse to bring updates late in the season, and cook the books like they did last year.

Then we risk the penalty for breaking the cap, but you are just making up that Binotto said that.

[wisepie]

I can tolerate reliability issues, mistakes from the pit crew and the drivers. But I can't tolerate giving away an easy 1-2 in a track where overtaking is realistically impossible.

Not gonna lie, today's result is making my blood boil.

Totally agree, given the changing conditions and the delays it was never going to be a straightforward race but to see the agony that the pitwall strategy put Charles through is unacceptable and incompetent, Carlos got the call right but the indecision and double stacking was a disaster for Charles. He summed it up after the race, we can't go on making these errors or championships will disappear from under our wheels. Gutted for Charles again, two races in a row but at least he finished.

[458 Italia]

Ferrari has protested Verstappen crossing the yellow line on pit exit.

Should've done that at the time really, bit late now!

[Brembo]

Disagree.

Unfortunately, the Ferrari strategists were eating pasta with their vino at this time. It caught them off guard.

i WAS DOING THE SAME THING! But I'm allowed!

[RossTheBoss]

Then we risk the penalty for breaking the cap, but you are just making up that Binotto said that.

Have fun eating your words.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...-cap/10312239/

Asked by Motorsport.com what will happen if the budget cap is not increased, Binotto said: “I think that there will be no way for us to stay below, so I am pretty sure at some stage we will go over.

[Ferrarichamp]

i WAS DOING THE SAME THING! But I'm allowed!

what type of pasta and sauce?

[SFTifoso]

The drivers did a terrific job. Sainz saved it on the straight. Ferrari just doesn’t want to win. They screwed up Miami, and now this is 10x worst.

[MSC Fan]

Apparently, Albon held Charles up for a lap straight despite blue flags and cost us 3 seconds. It isn't just the pitwall at fault, the dumb gooses at FIA share some portion of the blame as well. Not to mention Latifi held Charles again for some 3-4 corners when he was about 0.8-1 seconds away from Verstappen.

Also, Albon and Latifi haven't gotten 0 penalites for this. It's been a clownshow throughout ffs.

[nani_s23]

We lost 3 home races (Imola/Barcelona & Monaco) with strong car. That disappoints me more.

[F2008]

That's two wins in a row thrown away.
Worst of all, Barcelona and Monaco were expected to suit the Ferrari car better than Red Bull.

[Brembo]

I agree.........................buuuuuuut Ferrari's ethos has always been, no one driver is bigger than Ferrari.

You have a short memory!!! I'll stop there!

[jgonzalesm6]

Then we risk the penalty for breaking the cap, but you are just making up that Binotto said that.

'No way' Ferrari can stay below budget cap – Binotto

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi..._cap__Binotto/

[MSC Fan]

We lost 3 home races (Imola/Barcelona & Monaco) with strong car. That disappoints me more.

No way would we have won Imola. We were too far off.

[PURE PASSION]

That's two wins in a row thrown away.
Worst of all, Barcelona and Monaco were expected to suit the Ferrari car better than Red Bull.

I have the feeling that we won't have bad races as that they want suits us.with the new floor we can run lower and use more "light" wings so don't think we will have a problem with speeds + we will be strong in the more twisted parts!!!.
BUT now it looks that the only problem we have is the team themselves!!!! We will loose only by wrong calls and bad reliability !!!!

[RossTheBoss]

Seeing leclerc radio convo with Mattia. Charles is very disappointed.

He is doing what all he can, but the team is binning his chances. We need a rocket engine or upgrade just like Lewis got in Brazil 2021. Smoke those RB’s.

Baku will be the first true test for the Barcelona updates, which seemed to make the car faster. We didn't get a full shake at Barcelona because of Charles PU and Sainz off road adventure, and Monaco obviously isn't about car performance, so Baku is put up or shut up for the team, and then more upgrades in Canada (allegedly lol) and Silverstone.