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    Ferrari has also lodged a protest against Sergio Perez. Both Red Bull drivers summoned to the stewards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSC Fan View Post
    No way would we have won Imola. We were too far off.
    Yup I know. But we were at least P2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Ferrari has also lodged a protest against Sergio Perez. Both Red Bull drivers summoned to the stewards.
    Nothing will happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post
    Baku will be the first true test for the Barcelona updates, which seemed to make the car faster. We didn't get a full shake at Barcelona because of Charles PU and Sainz off road adventure, and Monaco obviously isn't about car performance, so Baku is put up or shut up for the team, and then more upgrades in Canada (allegedly lol) and Silverstone.
    As I said we need to counter RB. Last four races isn’t good for us. We need to stop RB from win.

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    Just like Austria 2019 they'll get away with cheating.

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    When the season started, i and some other members here where cautious about how the this season could be for us.In my opinion all the package,the team,the car and the drivers wasn't good enough to be championship contenders to the end.
    By now the car proved a good car, especially in qualifying...Charles proved good enough despite his mistakes in Imola...and no comments for Carlos and the team.
    I could say that Carlos is not good enough for Ferrari,as for the team poor strategy and small upgrades as every year.
    Some called me a troll but it doesnt matter...i watch formula 1 since 1994 and i support this team since then.
    I really feel sadness and disappointed that things are going the way i thought.I cant stand this every year
    Year after year the same situation.
    I really had a hope that this year could be a different year.
    As for the race we all know that despite the protest,nothing will happen.

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    ITALIAN CLOWN TEAM. CHARLES, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, GET YOURSELF INTO A TEAM THAT WILL NOT END YOUR (POTENTIALLY STRATOSPHERIC) CAREER!

    We build a monster car and yet again we are outsmarted by a fizzy drink company..

    Maybe next race we can have a car with doors that fall off, a loud klaxon and comedy outfits! #ParpParp, #Honkhonk!
    Trying to be less angry..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Ferrari has also lodged a protest against Sergio Perez. Both Red Bull drivers summoned to the stewards.

    On what grounds?
    Trying to be less angry..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Singer View Post
    On what grounds?
    Pit lane line cutting at the exit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Singer View Post
    On what grounds?
    Crossing the pitlane exit.

    Petty stuff that will result in a reprimand. Not a good look for the team.

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    Just look at the replay of the live timing. Through GPS position we can see that Charles had been badly held up by Albon who was a lap down. It was the first lap after changing to inters. Albon on H tyres did not let Charles pass from Casino turn untill the finish straight In that same lap MV was on the same tyres more than 3s faster. That cost Charles too much Times and in the end effect the position to MV after next stops to slicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    At your posts?
    Pathetic. As expected.

    I’ll bet you $20 Charles loses the championship by a number of points equal or less than caused by Ferrari’s failure cost him today and in Spain.

    The kid’s talent will be wasted by this group of incompetent buffoons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    As I said we need to counter RB. Last four races isn’t good for us. We need to stop RB from win.
    Padros ought to be taken off Leclerc. I don't care how close the latter is to the former. Leclerc will not forget this incident, and it's going to undermine his confidence in team strategy.

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    Y’all need to stop calling the Ferrari out wall “clowns”

    That’s an insult to clowns who are trained professional entertainers. The Ferrari pit wall are like a bunch of monkeys trying to screw a football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post
    Padros ought to be taken off Leclerc. I don't care how close the latter is to the former. Leclerc will not forget this incident, and it's going to undermine his confidence in team strategy.
    This damage cannot be repaired. They cost him his home GP. If there was a 3rd competitive team he might’ve even forced his way out. This is unforgivable. 100x worst than a DNF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Pathetic. As expected.

    I’ll bet you $20 Charles loses the championship by a number of points equal or less than caused by Ferrari’s failure cost him today and in Spain.

    The kid’s talent will be wasted by this group of incompetent buffoons.
    Lots of bad judgement in leadership right now.

    The new floor wasn't fitted in Imola because it was allegedly not good to do so on a sprint weekend and in the wet. Red Bull brought their floor updates, and smoked us. Brought the LDW to Miami, then chickened out because the team thought it would be hard on the tires, and then the tires got ate up anyways and Red Bull smoked us on the straights. Barcelona the updates finally arrive and then the PU gives out when all looks well. Ok, fine, but that proves that holding the updates was the wrong call.

    Monaco was just garbage water from the pitwall. The team will look back at these races and if they lose the title, they will realize how costly they were.

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    Come on Ross, any win will do. Not that they'll give it to us

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Y’all need to stop calling the Ferrari out wall “clowns”

    That’s an insult to clowns who are trained professional entertainers. The Ferrari pit wall are like a bunch of monkeys trying to screw a football.
    ...but, but, ....but, they're Italian monkeys.... that makes them better, ....uh,.....more fashionable..., uh...., they look good,.....uh,.....we have history,......uh,....., we have been in F1 forever, ........,uh, .........we are obeying the budget cap,.......uh, ........ everybody else cheats,........uh,........Horner is evil, ......uh,........ Toto is angry,....... uh,..... we are mindless fans worshipping a team that can't find its ass with both hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFTifoso View Post
    This damage cannot be repaired. They cost him his home GP. If there was a 3rd competitive team he might’ve even forced his way out. This is unforgivable. 100x worst than a DNF.
    If the team wants to have Red Bull success, they should do as what Red Bull do, and Mercedes did during their dominance.

    1. Charles is number one. Team orders. Sainz job is to bring home points and hold up Max. That is it. That's his job until he shows he can out qualify Leclerc.
    2. Updates come as soon as they are machined, and to Charles car alone if parts are not available for both cars.

    The policy of deluding Sainz into thinking he's allowed to race Charles unless he's clearly and unquestionably quicker, and waiting to bring updates until parts are also available to him as well as Charles, is simply unsustainable, and will be the thing that costs Ferrari both titles if not reversed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post
    Lots of bad judgement in leadership right now.

    The new floor wasn't fitted in Imola because it was allegedly not good to do so on a sprint weekend and in the wet. Red Bull brought their floor updates, and smoked us. Brought the LDW to Miami, then chickened out because the team thought it would be hard on the tires, and then the tires got ate up anyways and Red Bull smoked us on the straights. Barcelona the updates finally arrive and then the PU gives out when all looks well. Ok, fine, but that proves that holding the updates was the wrong call.

    Monaco was just garbage water from the pitwall. The team will look back at these races and if they lose the title, they will realize how costly they were.
    They may look back, but there is zero damn self reflection. Absolutely zero. There is never anything learned from their mistakes. Nothing. Ever.

    I have no idea how Charles could have been so nice in that post race interview. I would have been beating the “strategist” to a bloody pulp in the garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hajj View Post
    ...but, but, ....but, they're Italian monkeys.... that makes them better, ....uh,.....more fashionable..., uh...., they look good,.....uh,.....we have history,......uh,....., we have been in F1 forever, ........,uh, .........we are obeying the budget cap,.......uh, ........ everybody else cheats,........uh,........Horner is evil, ......uh,........ Toto is angry,....... uh,..... we are mindless fans worshipping a team that can't find its ass with both hands.
    This evening the part of Greig will be played by The Hajj

    Bravo sir. You captures the spirit of mediocrity perfectly!

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    do any of the armchair strategists want to explain how they would have called this race differently?
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    Yes. Gladly. Slicks on Leclerc and Sainz the lap after Pérez took intermediates. Gasly was doing well below 1.30 at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossTheBoss View Post
    If the team wants to have Red Bull success, they should do as what Red Bull do.

    1. Charles is number one. Team orders. Sainz job is to bring home points and hold up Max. That is it. That's his job until he shows he can out qualify Leclerc.
    2. Updates come as soon as they are machined, and to Charles car alone if parts are not available for both cars.
    Priority #1 is HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE !!!!!

    Nationality should not be a factor. The incompetence throughout the team is evident. Tough decisions need to made now before more points are thrown away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifoso Svedese View Post
    Yes. Gladly. Slicks on Leclerc and Sainz the lap after Pérez took intermediates. Gasly was doing well below 1.30 at that point.
    too wet, you risk a dnf, sainz almost lost it going off line.

    but you're right, that's the only way we could have won. and that just shows you how hard this race was going to be to win from where we were
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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    This evening the part of Greig will be played by The Hajj

    Bravo sir. You captures the spirit of mediocrity perfectly!
    Hey buddy, I guess I should have figured how to put that "sarcasm" symbol in the message. I'm not Greg. I'm the opposite of him. I would be drilling kneecaps, not bashing with a torque wrench. I would tell my financial folks to cook the books like a large pizza, and spend twice the allotted cap.

    This is racing. All that matters is winning. Everything else is for losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifoso Svedese View Post
    Yes. Gladly. Slicks on Leclerc and Sainz the lap after Pérez took intermediates. Gasly was doing well below 1.30 at that point.
    For me ,pit Lec for Inters just after Perez and Sainz as they done So Lec could cover the Bulls and be ahead of them no matter what and Sainz to go for a different strategy
    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    For me ,pit Lec for Inters just after Perez and Sainz as they done So Lec could cover the Bulls and be ahead of them no matter what and Sainz to go for a different strategy
    then Verstappen will just nurse his tyres and pit straight to slicks. Congrats, you lost the race too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Yup I know. But we were at least P2.
    we were P2 today buddy, and still had the better pace in all conditions
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    For me ,pit Lec for Inters just after Perez and Sainz as they done So Lec could cover the Bulls and be ahead of them no matter what and Sainz to go for a different strategy
    Absolutely correct. Red Bull had no chance to beat us UNLESS the team massively screwed up, and of course, the bumbling buffoons in red handed RB the race.

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