2022 Belgian Grand Prix - Buildup, Practice & Qualifying Thread

**racingbradley** · 27th August 2022, 20:04

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

Competent leadership does wonders to a team. Red Bull acts like a single entity, they know who their championship contender is, they know what to do with the upgrades and they know what to during races.

They don't come up with hogwash like "No one is bigger than Red Bull" every so often. Horner is the best TP. He knows how to motivate his drives and how to play politics.

well said. That's how it is.

**RossTheBoss** · 27th August 2022, 20:16

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

Competent leadership does wonders to a team. Red Bull acts like a single entity, they know who their championship contender is, they know what to do with the upgrades and they know what to during races.

They don't come up with hogwash like "No one is bigger than Red Bull" every so often. Horner is the best TP. He knows how to motivate his drives and how to play politics.

This.

Red Bull are a machine right now. They've found the right mix. Horner doesn't make excuses, he runs a tight ship, and supports his drivers. This in contrast to Binotto, who makes excuse after excuse for their horrid pit wall Ferrari have, and then wags his finger in Leclerc's face after races.

**RossTheBoss** · 27th August 2022, 20:22

Originally Posted by subfire91

Guys lets see how the season goes from now on. I think we still bring a new rear suspension and new floor to eliminate porpoising and lower the car even more.

This track is perfectly suited for RB and also Monza. Because of their top speed advantage they can load the car with down-force and be good in the few twisty bits which is ideal for them. Lets see if this gap is still present in the tracks that theoretically suit us and not jump to conclusions regarding technical directives and stuff.

I think it's obvious Ferrari have been hit hard by the TD. The sudden drop in speed is too coincidental to not be connected. Remember, Binotto openly said Ferrari would be affected, while Horner said Red Bull wouldn't.

Interestingly, Mercedes had a massive drop in speed as well, so it looks like that for all their boasting, they must've been exploiting the loophole on floors, too. Typical, hypocrites.

**racingbradley** · 27th August 2022, 20:27

We need an Enzo character for TP.
Someone who sees the potential in Charles and gives him maximum support.
It's a shame to see his talent wasted on race weekends.

**RossTheBoss** · 27th August 2022, 20:35

Originally Posted by racingbradley

We need an Enzo character for TP.
Someone who sees the potential in Charles and gives him maximum support.
It's a shame to see his talent wasted on race weekends.

Ferrari actually have had a great car most of the year. Leclerc should've won Spain, Monaco, England, and Hungary, hands down. And I'd argue Leclerc could've won Miami had Ferrari pitted him on the late SC. He'd be either even or only slightly behind Max right now, instead of several country miles behind.

The engine failures in Spain and Baku are forgivable. The horrible race strategy, lack of proper team orders, and the TP wagging his finger in the star drivers face for the strategists mistakes, is absolutely NOT acceptable, and the people that've been making excuses for it are clueless. It is no way to run a race team in any series, let alone in F1.

Ferrari have a good development department. They should say. Everything else management wise should GO during the off season.

**stefa** · 27th August 2022, 20:58

Wow!
https://twitter.com/FanaticsFerrari/...pTcLpNmcg&s=19

**Cavallino** · 27th August 2022, 20:58

Originally Posted by SS454

Makes sense to me. Verstappen has the fastest car in the straight line already, they have had it all year. He set the fastest 1st and 3rd sectors which is all about straightline speed. Pack on all the downforce they can while still maintaining the advantage and it gives Max a much more racable car that can follow closer in traffic, and is stable under braking.

going by that logic Ferrari had the most raceable car all season...
except we didn't, we've been stuck behind and we've gotten eaten up on the straights.

**SS454** · 27th August 2022, 21:15

Originally Posted by Cavallino

going by that logic Ferrari had the most raceable car all season...
except we didn't, we've been stuck behind and we've gotten eaten up on the straights.

Ferrari haven't had the straight line speed though right? Red Bull have enjoyed a significant top speed advantage all year, upwards of 3-6 kph on the long straights. That gives them more options than Ferrari, especially in the race.

**Cavallino** · 27th August 2022, 22:46

Originally Posted by SS454

Ferrari haven't had the straight line speed though right? Red Bull have enjoyed a significant top speed advantage all year, upwards of 3-6 kph on the long straights. That gives them more options than Ferrari, especially in the race.

then they have the better car.

it also make thier strategy calls really easy too, when you know you can get by, and no one can really challenge unless you get the tyres absolutely wrong.

**jgonzalesm6** · 28th August 2022, 00:30

Originally Posted by Cavallino

going by that logic Ferrari had the most raceable car all season...
except we didn't, we've been stuck behind and we've gotten eaten up on the straights.

Originally Posted by SS454

Ferrari haven't had the straight line speed though right? Red Bull have enjoyed a significant top speed advantage all year, upwards of 3-6 kph on the long straights. That gives them more options than Ferrari, especially in the race.

Originally Posted by Cavallino

then they have the better car.

it also make thier strategy calls really easy too, when you know you can get by, and no one can really challenge unless you get the tyres absolutely wrong.

Ferrari has led in several races for 2022 but they manage to "mess-up" during the race by several factors i.e. DNF's, strat calls or driver error. One would think that all Ferrari had to do was cover the Redbull pit stops immediately or one lap later.....but that strategy call from Ferrari is out the window.

This Spa track is not suited for the F1-75.

**SS454** · 28th August 2022, 02:35

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Ferrari has led in several races for 2022 but they manage to "mess-up" during the race by several factors i.e. DNF's, strat calls or driver error. One would think that all Ferrari had to do was cover the Redbull pit stops immediately or one lap later.....but that strategy call from Ferrari is out the window.

This Spa track is not suited for the F1-75.

It's going to be worse at Monza.

**RossTheBoss** · 28th August 2022, 05:46

Max will be tough to beat tomorrow. He's going to absolutely fly through the field.

No question that Ferrari have been hit hard by the TD, and I don't see how the hell they win.

**stefa** · 28th August 2022, 06:25

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Ferrari has led in several races for 2022 but they manage to "mess-up" during the race by several factors i.e. DNF's, strat calls or driver error. One would think that all Ferrari had to do was cover the Redbull pit stops immediately or one lap later.....but that strategy call from Ferrari is out the window.

This Spa track is not suited for the F1-75.

I hate that term "it is not suited for that track"! It'a a race car! Good race race is good on any given track!!! For what exactly they are building them, if not for a race track to race?!
I don't recall F2002 and F2004, or McLaren MP4/4 ware not suited for some track.

**Ferrari312T4** · 28th August 2022, 06:51

Judging the time Max drove, isn't it time for us to question their legality....

**stefa** · 28th August 2022, 06:58

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/sta...FjHOdFVzw&s=19

**stefa** · 28th August 2022, 06:59

Originally Posted by Ferrari312T4

Judging the time Max drove, isn't it time for us to question their legality....

Don't see why?! Our car is slow, with clowns on pit wall and their car is fast with masterminds at pit wall!

If it was the other way arround, with Ferrari that fast, would you also call for legallity?