2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Buildup, Practice & Qualifying

[Tifoso Svedese]

Well, at least both cars are ahead of Mercedes on what should be their best track while running the engines at standstill mode.

[WS6TransAm01]

What to say

https://twitter.com/FanaticsFerrari/...2a-EuI2NJeBDhQ

I said it long ago. RBR and Merc will ignore the budget cap and use creative accounting to hide it. Ferrari, yet again, caught napping. Utter failure.

Binotto is not man enough to lead a team as great as Ferrari. I wouldn't allow him lead a group of dog catchers.

[ferrari1.8t]

Well, at least both cars are ahead of Mercedes on what should be their best track while running the engines at standstill mode.

For now. We may qualify ahead, but it’s likely the Merc has better race pace than us.

[ferrari1.8t]

I said it long ago. RBR and Merc will ignore the budget cap and use creative accounting to hide it. Ferrari, yet again, caught napping. Utter failure.

Binotto is not man enough to lead a team as great as Ferrari. I wouldn't allow him lead a group of dog catchers.

Yup, you’re right. Ferrari should have done the same thing. The FIA can’t audit Ferrari’s road car books, it would have been so easy to put a LaFerrari mule on track 24/7 to develop this car. Instead, here we are battling to be the 3rd fastest car.

[tifosi1993]

[stefa]

I said it long ago. RBR and Merc will ignore the budget cap and use creative accounting to hide it. Ferrari, yet again, caught napping. Utter failure.

Binotto is not man enough to lead a team as great as Ferrari. I wouldn't allow him lead a group of dog catchers.

No matter how grim situation is, you always put a smile on my face

[paolo lalli]

So ferrari being honest represents being a total failure now thats harsh.Cooking the books smart accounting has no place, the best get caught.How can f1 ever be clean when corruptive minds run around this sport including this forum then the sport has no chance.

[The Hajj]

The sport has no chance because of ridiculous rules, like a budget cap and all the other “green” insanity.

Ferrari can claim the moral high ground, but losing is all the satisfaction they will achieve.

So ferrari being honest represents being a total failure now thats harsh.Cooking the books smart accounting has no place, the best get caught.How can f1 ever be clean when corruptive minds run around this sport including this forum then the sport has no chance.

[stefa]

The sport has no chance because of ridiculous rules, like a budget cap and all the other “green” insanity.

Ferrari can claim the moral high ground, but losing is all the satisfaction they will achieve.

Well said

[Liscia]

Is there a funny fishy smell emanating from RB sandbags?

[Liscia]

The Hajj you've put it very precisely in a nutshell!! (only just now catching up with earlier posts)

[Greig]

So ferrari being honest represents being a total failure now thats harsh.Cooking the books smart accounting has no place, the best get caught.How can f1 ever be clean when corruptive minds run around this sport including this forum then the sport has no chance.

Some "fans" on here actively applaud other teams cheating, just so they can pour hate on Ferrari. Not sure what they think it will achieve but it's all rather bizarre.

[ferrari1.8t]

Is there a funny fishy smell emanating from RB sandbags?

Can’t run around 2 seconds faster than everyone else…Toto might run back to his buddies at the fia to change the rules again. RedBull is reminiscent of the past Mercedes; don’t show your full hand but always have enough to win.

[ferrari1.8t]

Other teams cheating win them championships, if the FIA allows it (which they are), Ferrari should do the same.

But let’s not forget, Ferrari exploiting loopholes gets their wings clipped and relegated to the midfield for 2 years while Mercedes and RedBull exploiting loopholes gets them branded as geniuses.

[Greig]

Accounts have yet to be audited, so unsure how FIA are allowing anything yet. But as said anything to pour more hate on Ferrari by some "fans".

[stefa]

Suppose team win CWC and their driver win WDC, FIA find out that they spent more money than budget, how will they punish them?
I am 100000% FIA will not strip them of CWC and WDC!

[Liscia]

Suppose team win CWC and their driver win WDC, FIA find out that they spent more money than budget, how will they punish them?
I am 100000% FIA will not strip them of CWC an

For the FIAsco to have no rules to deal with violations is too convenient for the "ruling" body and it's favorites!

[Tifoso]

Reminds me of the calciopoli malarkey.

[Tifoso]

For the FIAsco to have no rules to deal with violations is too convenient for the "ruling" body and it's favorites!

FIAsco=brilliant!

(Edited your post for clarity, fratello).

[Cavallino]

Suppose team win CWC and their driver win WDC, FIA find out that they spent more money than budget, how will they punish them?
I am 100000% FIA will not strip them of CWC and WDC!

I vote for allowing $0 development budget for said team for three seasons. And some technical directives that guarantee the team cannot compete for 3-4 seasons, which is what happened when Ferrari allegedly bent the rules in 2019. That's what happens when you stop cheating.

And yes, the FIA has stripped drivers and constructors results before. Mclaren 2008 and Michael in 97.

[elnano14]

Charles said his car was a bit understeer and it's tricky. While Carlos said he felt comfortable and optimistic for the rest of weekend...

[ferrari1.8t]

Accounts have yet to be audited, so unsure how FIA are allowing anything yet. But as said anything to pour more hate on Ferrari by some "fans".

So if the fia audits the teams after RedBull wins both championships, will they take them away if found guilty or say “just don’t to it again next year”?

I highly doubt the FIA would strip anyone of their wins. Maybe Mattia is right in saying it’s not being policed properly.

[Alonsomaniac]

Where have the Ferrari fans gone who stood by their team, no matter what? Some comments I read here..........I don't post a lot anymore, but some of you could better not post at all.
Ferrari fans back Ferrari. If you don't, no problem. There are other teams and they have forums too.

[Liscia]

Where have the Ferrari fans gone who stood by their team, no matter what? Some comments I read here..........I don't post a lot anymore, but some of you could better not post at all.

Ferrari fans back Ferrari. If you don't, no problem. There are other teams and they ha


I for one cannot imagine EVER not being a Tifoso (just like you Lou(igi)!

[Gilles]

In France we use to say "who loves, knows also to be tough"
I wonder sometimes how this team can keep fans with what happened this year
The fans keep loving Ferrari but can't agree to all that is done by people they would prefer to see doing their sabotage in other teams
Ferrari is far more than the today team's members
I think it's not to fans to leave, it's to Marcos and Rueda, at least

[RossTheBoss]

Where have the Ferrari fans gone who stood by their team, no matter what? Some comments I read here..........I don't post a lot anymore, but some of you could better not post at all.
Ferrari fans back Ferrari. If you don't, no problem. There are other teams and they have forums too.

I love Ferrari. Schumacher in his Ferrari is some of the best of my youth.

I love the beautiful cars the engineers make at the factory, the pride they take in their work, and the desire for greatness at the Ferrari at factory.

I believe the people building such great cars deserve the best drivers and the best management to represent them, and just because we don't always see eye to eye on who that is, doesn't mean I don't love the team even with its flaws.

There's being a fan, then there's being delusional. When I see bad judgement, I'm going to say so. Why? Because what built Ferrari's best eras was the ability to grow, and handle harsh criticism when it was deserved. And yes, even Brawn and Todt had to take their lumps for mistakes.

[paolo lalli]

Loose with dignity loose with pride.Cheat or manipulate you will be caught because Carma will be your shadow.This budget cap chat at all levels iam sure are making some teams nervous they better have covered there tracks well or they will be history they will be exposed and disqualified the rumblings have started.

[330 p4]

Sainz top speed is a real outlier. 326. LeClerc at 316 around same as most. Did Sainz get a tow? If so 10kmh is alot.

[FerrariF60]

I truly hope our pace is genuine but I’m a bit shocked at the slow red bull pace...is that even real?? Coming from the dominant pace they had just over a week ago

I still think they are sandbagging big time

[Liscia]

....less than a week ago F60! It strains the imagination!