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Originally Posted by racingbradley
LDM has been giving his opinion of the current state of the team.
He believes it will take years to rebuild the team........not very encouraging but unfortunately possibly true.OMG, all these "Anti-Ferrari" posts!!!.......someone's not going to like this.....
It's not how start but how you finish.
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Yet none of them accuse Ferrari of being cheats.....strange that.OMG, all these "Anti-Ferrari" posts!!!.......someone's not going to like this.....
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Nonetheless they are "Anti-Ferrari." (You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig")
Would you like me to go to the last 3 race threads for you and pick some more "Anti-Ferrari" posts?
It's not how start but how you finish.
bonne chance Charles
I would say that the posts you highlight are from fans who are concerned about the team. There is nothing anti ferrari in any of them. LDM has been giving his opinion and the above are nearly all comments about what he said.OMG, all these "Anti-Ferrari" posts!!!.......someone's not going to like this.....
Anti-Ferrari NEVER.
Forza Jules
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Agreed....as am I "concerned" for the team for the past 15+ years and going forward.I would say that the posts you highlight are from fans who are concerned about the team. There is nothing anti ferrari in any of them. LDM has been giving his opinion and the above are nearly all comments about what he said.
Anti-Ferrari NEVER.
If you notice, I put the "Anti-Ferrari" in quotes because this is the narrative of someone whom used "Anti-Ferrari."
Last edited by jgonzalesm6; 6th April 2023 at 22:36.
It's not how start but how you finish.
Salut Gilles
In regards to your latest posts when you call attack the team for others cheating.
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Or are some fans not concerned enough? Critical thinking as a fan is not forbidden.I would say that the posts you highlight are from fans who are concerned about the team. There is nothing anti ferrari in any of them. LDM has been giving his opinion and the above are nearly all comments about what he said.
Anti-Ferrari NEVER.
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Unsurprising. Current Italian government is imposing a low that will hand anyone speaking english a hefty fine. So why would anyone move there?
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Would only apply to public officials and government documents.
Would not affect anyone living or working in Italy.
bonne chance Charles
I see Fred has requested a review into the Sainz penalty. Wonder how that will go?
Forza Jules
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1) Not holding my breath.
2) He's also had a pop at the feeble penalty handed to Red Bull for their previous cheating...
Trying to be less angry..
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Vasseur given the green light by upper management to find professionals abroad(U.K.????) and recruit them.
It's gonna be awhile before this team fights it's way to the front.
Good Luck Vasseur.
It's not how start but how you finish.
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Really? That is very regressive.
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Sounds like Italy is not a comfortable place to live if you don't speak the language.
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Since the days of Todt/Brawn, Ferrari made a very clear goal to be as Italian as possible and it has proved to be an utter failure. What foreigner would want to be the first quality engineer to join a team that had that narrow minded philosophy for the better part of 15 years?
And now rumors of a law that fines people for speaking English. Italy is sounding like a horrific place to live or visit.
bonne chance Charles
I looked this up and found that a fine is imposed on Italians who use English or non Italian words in official communications.......no mention about expats using English in their day to day life.
Forza Jules
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Guys relax. Where are you reading news ? CNN and BBC ? English WRITTEN ONLY language is ONLY excluded from official documents. Meloni is making Italy great again. Let’s leave politics out of our beloved forum.
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I looked this up and found that a fine is imposed on Italians who use English or non Italian words in official communications.......no mention about expats using English in their day to day life.Law on language is something I don't support, as I imagine many will not. I agree with DJTaurus in not making this a political conversation. The point is things like this can only help detour foreigners from joining Ferrari. Given the vast majority of Formula 1 experience is from the UK, who's going to want to pack their bags and move to Italy with Ferrari's Italian-only matters culture and the countries potential laws against English?
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The vast majority of F1-1 fans and the team most wanted to be with; driver wise; is and always will be FERRARI !
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Your wording is incorrect and misleading. Italy 'proposed' the language law. They haven't imposed anything. One far right politician proposed it and the Italian government said they are not pushing for it. It will never become law anyway. There is no way to properly police it and it's all a storm in a tea cup
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Ok please tell me why she is far right ?
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She who? These days, not being woke is considered far right so I wouldn't take it seriously. The suposed proposed law will never come into effect. Storm in a tea cup. Anyway, Ferrari's problems doesn't stem from some random Italian saying 'enit' at the end of his sentence
bonne chance Charles
Changing the subject somewhat Ferrari have found a successor for Sanchez..........Fabio Montecchi. Apparently he has been with the team since 2004.
Forza Jules
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Just wait until Ferrari starts winning again.
You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse
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This is not at any point about Ferrari having cheated in the past.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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Actually yes of course you are.
You have zero evidences but you CHOOSE to believe what people against Ferrari choose to believe.
Your right, however we also choose to believe you're Anti Ferrari.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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No, anti ferrari is when you choose to spew poison in a Ferrari forum saying that Ferrari cheats.
Why you're not banned is beyond me.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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LMAO. Nice deflection dude. There is a huge difference between not being happy with Ferrari's current form and how it's been run versus accusing them of being cheats.OMG, all these "Anti-Ferrari" posts!!!.......someone's not going to like this.....
But coming from you, it's hardly surprising. Afterall, you are the guy who was cheering RB's overtake on Ferrari back in 2021.
I guess to you, Ferrari founding a loophole and using it as an advantage is "cheating", but RB overspending by 7 million over the allocated budget cap is cleaver accounting.
It's quite obvious that you love RB. But this is not a place for that. Take your "love" somewhere else.
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Hmmm, storm in the tea cup you say, but the reality is quite different. Italy is already one of the toughest places for a foreigner to settle in. So no wonder they can't attract Newey or any of his protégé's.
And Italian politics is absolutely garbage.
The examples are right Infront our eyes. Just look at Ducati and compare their results before and after Audi took over. Ferrari needs exactly something like that. As long as it's under the umbrella of FIAT and as long as people like Elkann and Vigna are allowed to run the show, it will not improve.
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So Ducati's success is due to good management and investment and nothing to do with foreign enigeers struggling to settle in Italy? If Ferrari can't employ top foreign engineers then surely Ducati would have had the same issue. Ferrari's top brass might need replacing but that's a different discussion. Ferrari's problems are in no way linked to Italians wanting to speak Italian or the country being difficult to settle in
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