F1 2023 Pre-Season Testing (23-25 February)

[stasera]

Leclerc losing almost 1.0 second to pretty much everybody who are doing race sim. stints right now.

Other sectors are in 0.2-0.3 second margin.

Wt.. goin on at sector 2 ? :(

leclerc's quali lap time in 2022:
1:30.558

leclerc's lap time in 2022 in the race :
1:37:33.584

Verstappen last time: (today)
1:37:967

Leclerc last time:(today) with hard tyres
1:37:659

it seems everything is okay

[tifosi1993]

We shouldn't be judging tyre wear characteristic based on testing. The SF23 looks dialed-in on track. It's not bouncing and the balance looks quite good.

Ferrari still running the low/medium DF RW. Which is pretty impressive tbh, considering the track has rear limited high DF characteristic and this year protecting the rear tyres is more important than ever before.

[SilverSpeed]

Ha ted bull says they have enough with 2 days of testing.

Fine then tomorrow they don't drive...

[Silent Bob]

Could be a good thing running with the less aggressive RW and trying to find the right setup so the tires work properly with less wing. Last year we always had to use high DF RW to save the tires during the race.

[stasera]

Top Speed #F1Testing Day 2

'LEC' 328
'SAI' 328
'MAG' 326
'SAR' 325
'VER' 324
'ALO' 324
'HUL' 324
'OCO' 323
'ZHO' 322
'HAM' 322
'RUS' 322
'NOR' 321
'GAS' 321
'PER' 321
'TSU' 321
'PIA' 320
'DEV' 319



Things are not going well for Mercedes, the car is very unstable, they are experiencing a lot of slipping from the front and rear. It seems that it will not be resolved in the short term. There will be overtime tomorrow, tonight will be critical.

[faloupas]

Of course it is too early to judge things.To early to lose hopes.
Verstappen and Red Bull looks unbeatable.If we are behind Mercedes it would be a huge disappointment.But nobody really knows at the moment.
Anyway ..lets wait and see what our performance will be tomorrow.

[stasera]

Of course it is too early to judge things.To early to lose hopes.
Verstappen and Red Bull looks unbeatable.If we are behind Mercedes it would be a huge disappointment.But nobody really knows at the moment.
Anyway ..lets wait and see what our performance will be tomorrow.

no komsi dont worry we are ahead of these Merc guys!

[faloupas]

no komsi dont worry we are ahead of these Merc guys!

I dont care being in front of Mercedes...first is everything,second is nothing.

[FerrariF60]

I dont care being in front of Mercedes...first is everything,second is nothing.

^this....second is the FIRST place of losers

[JacKy]

I think we’ll see larger RW tomorrow , Sainz said we’ll focus more on Bahrain GP setup tomorrow.

[PURE PASSION]

talks about testing a mare loaded rear wing with stiffer rear set up. I now that this is a rear limited track but is this just the right set up or a compromise because the medium rear wing didnt actually worked ??? And the wing we used today and yesterday is less loaded then RBRs or the same so now we again will forced to use more loaded rear wings ????!!!
what im saying is eventually we have a more efficient car or not ???!!!

[Brembo]

I find it amazing how no one really talks about HP being a big factor as opposed to all else. Years ago that was the main thing. Enzo really was into HP.

[Silent Bob]

I find it amazing how no one really talks about HP being a big factor as opposed to all else. Years ago that was the main thing. Enzo really was into HP.

Dont think any team has really cranked up the power yet.

[faloupas]

I find it amazing how no one really talks about HP being a big factor as opposed to all else. Years ago that was the main thing. Enzo really was into HP.

SF90 had the HP...but that was not enough.The way Red Bull combines HP and downforce looks unbeatable.
SF23 has to be something special if we want to talk about championship.

[Tifoso]

I’m not getting that vibe, at all, FWIW.
Maybe Hamilton was walking by….

[JacKy]

talks about testing a mare loaded rear wing with stiffer rear set up. I now that this is a rear limited track but is this just the right set up or a compromise because the medium rear wing didnt actually worked ??? And the wing we used today and yesterday is less loaded then RBRs or the same so now we again will forced to use more loaded rear wings ????!!!
what im saying is eventually we have a more efficient car or not ???!!!

LOL , I can see the confusion but i don’t have any clue either.

Well i believe we’ll get better perspective tomorrow. I’m confident that we’re gonna try more loaded RW.

[Silent Bob]

talks about testing a mare loaded rear wing with stiffer rear set up. I now that this is a rear limited track but is this just the right set up or a compromise because the medium rear wing didnt actually worked ??? And the wing we used today and yesterday is less loaded then RBRs or the same so now we again will forced to use more loaded rear wings ????!!!
what im saying is eventually we have a more efficient car or not ???!!!

I think the point is, if they can get the car and tires to work with a less loaded wing, then they won't need to use the high downforce wing to try to save tires and lose straight line speed, like last year. If they can get most of their downforce through the floor, where it's more efficient, balance the car so it's easy on the tires, and still maintain our mechanical grip, then we will be in good shape for the season.
Cranking on draggy downforce to load up the tires so they last in the race, is not the best solution.

[PURE PASSION]

I found the answer and yes we run less wing then RB so that explains the troubles in tire ware. So logically when we fit the proper wing for this track we might be on good shape and we could fight them equally!! Lets see. If this happens it wiuld be the first for many years for us. To start bad because we actually test extreme settins and serch for all kinds of limits, and then gradually setting up the so we can fight for pole and wins !!!!!

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[stasera]

Leclerc is flying

[Aziz]

Leclerc is flying

With a low df wing, as far as I can understand high df wing broke

[stasera]

Ferrari has introduced a new rear wing, which is supported by only one pylon instead of the usual two.

This brings better overall efficiency at high speeds.

However, there was an issue with the DRS this morning, which meant the mechanics had to replace it with the old wing.



Also, Ferrari’s wings are more and more unloaded than last year’s specification, meaning Ferrari has found more load from the body, allowing them to run more efficient wings.

[stasera]

2022 Bahrain Qualifying:
Charles Leclerc
Q1:
1:31.471
Q2:
1:30.932
Q3:
1:30.558

[Aziz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpzLmOxW...jpg&name=small

Ferrari has introduced a new rear wing, which is supported by only one pylon instead of the usual two.

This brings better overall efficiency at high speeds.

However, there was an issue with the DRS this morning, which meant the mechanics had to replace it with the old wing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fpy3ycKW...jpg&name=small

Also, Ferrari’s wings are more and more unloaded than last year’s specification, meaning Ferrari has found more load from the body, allowing them to run more efficient wings.

But is the old one low df or high df wing?

[stasera]

But is the old one low df or high df wing?

I dont know it

[PURE PASSION]

But is the old one low df or high df wing?

lower then the new

[stasera]

2022 Bahrain Qualifying:
Charles Leclerc
Q1:
1:31.471
Q2:
1:30.932
Q3:
1:30.558

[Aziz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpzLR2JW...jpg&name=large

2022 Bahrain Qualifying:
Charles Leclerc
Q1:
1:31.471
Q2:
1:30.932
Q3:
1:30.558

I just read on an other forum that tire deg is so bad that they ditched the race sim

[Toothlessrage*]

From Germany: Ferrari, 10-15 hp more than Red Bull Honda

The Ferrari power unit appears to be the best, according to what was observed in the Bahrain tests

The Germans of Auto, Motor und Sport have dedicated an in-depth study on the power unit of the Prancing Horse, indicating "the absence of concerns regarding reliability " and speaking of " 10-15 horsepower more than those of Red Bull Honda ".

[Toothlessrage*]

From Germany: Ferrari, 10-15 hp more than Red Bull Honda

The Ferrari power unit appears to be the best, according to what was observed in the Bahrain tests

The Germans of Auto, Motor und Sport have dedicated an in-depth study on the power unit of the Prancing Horse, indicating "the absence of concerns regarding reliability " and speaking of " 10-15 horsepower more than those of Red Bull Honda ".

Link: https://www.formulapassion.it/motors...red-bull-honda

Though, I'm still worried about tyre deg.
Hope we'll be able to launch a sustained challenge through the season and give the RBR (Marko, especially) a run for their money.

[stasera]

Alfa Romeo has engine failure in Bottas' car