2023 Bahrain Grand Prix - Buildup, Practice & Qualifying Thread

[stefa]

Does any one have some reliable stream?

[stasera]

like they said during the tests 0.200 or 0.300 we are behind RB

these times indicate that might be true

[FerrariF60]

like they said 0.200 or 0.300 we are behind RB

these times indicates that might be true

we'll have to wait for Q3 mate when Ferrari will turn up the beast engine we have.....
its ONLY practice, i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it

[Aziz]

we'll have to wait for Q3 mate when Ferrari will turn up the beast engine we have.....
its ONLY practice, i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it

If this is our race pace, we can all pack up....ffs

[stasera]

we'll have to wait for Q3 mate when Ferrari will turn up the beast engine we have.....
its ONLY practice, i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it

of course, it is still obscure where teams will be after the race and the quali

but we discuss according to these data.

[subfire91]

like they said during the tests 0.200 or 0.300 we are behind RB

these times indicate that might be true

if this is the case is a step backwards. only fastest matters. Last year at this track we were second to none.

Q3 will tell!!!

[PURE PASSION]

well on live timing i see that Aston is right there too. And to be exact Alo was even 1, 2 tenths faster then lec. Ves looks the fastest then Alo and then Per -Lec

[stasera]

if this is the case is a step backwards. only fastest matters. Last year at this track we were second to none.

Q3 will tell!!!

we fought against RB, they were strong too but their cars were failed

[PURE PASSION]

i cant really comprehend how a team lke Aston , who was fighting fot top 10 1.5+ s behind the top ,to find almost 2s in 1 year to another from the top teams and now to fight for podiums !!!!

[subfire91]

we fought against RB, they were strong too but their cars were failed

qualy we were significantly faster and race pace differences were negligible.

2-3 tenths race pace is huge

[stasera]

i cant really comprehend how a team lke Aston , who was fighting fot top 10 1.5+ s behind the top ,to find almost 2s in 1 year to another from the top teams and now to fight for podiums !!!!

they have good facilities, they built a modern wind tunnel. the father of Stroll is very rich guy. if you have enough money, you can hire successful engineers and those who are good at their job. then there is no obstacle not to be successful. ferrari can't be successful, because they have too many political issues like game of thrones. we don't hire those who are good at their job.

money, merit = success
RB have this viewpoint

[stasera]

qualy we were significantly faster and race pace differences were negligible.

2-3 tenths race pace is huge

yes exactly. but it looks like we are still trying to find our sweet point

| Xavi (as Charles got to the box):

“That was 5 to the left.”

Charles: “Freaking hell. I don’t know why it’s always 5 to the left. To me it looked centre.”

[subfire91]

yes exactly. but it looks like we are still trying to find our sweet point

| Xavi (as Charles got to the box):

“That was 5 to the left.”

Charles: “Freaking hell. I don’t know why it’s always 5 to the left. To me it looked centre.”

pls elaborate i dont know what this means

[PURE PASSION]

they have good facilities, they built a modern wind tunnel. the father of Stroll is very rich guy. if you have enough money, you can hire successful engineers and those who are good at their job. then there is no obstacle not to be successful. ferrari can't be successful, because they have too many political issues like game of thrones. we don't hire those who are good at their job.

money, merit = success
RB have this viewpoint

well they are the same team as last year when they where 6th (constructors) and always copy another car . Money now with the budget cup are the same for everyone. So cant really see how they turn out with such performance gains !!!!!! Forget about us. They outscore Merc by far and even RedBull . They look like they are the best team .

[tifosi1993]

***Edit: Zhou's final sector time is 22.878

[tifosi1993]

What was one of the weirdest practice session ever. Looks like 8-9 drivers car take pole here.

But I'm not worried at all. Pace is there and this car will be on pole. See you all tomorrow, when this beast finally gets unleashed.

[brucewayne]

Tyre deg looks pretty good actually

[PURE PASSION]

What was one of the weirdest practice session ever. Looks like 8-9 drivers car take pole here.

But I'm not worried at all. Pace is there and this car will be on pole. See you all tomorrow, when this beast finally gets unleashed.

Wish you are a prophet!!!!!!

[subfire91]

What was one of the weirdest practice session ever. Looks like 8-9 drivers car take pole here.

But I'm not worried at all. Pace is there and this car will be on pole. See you all tomorrow, when this beast finally gets unleashed.

i hope you are right man. if the timings above reflect the actual pace of the cars we are losing everywhere. only good is that we recovered top speed disadvantage

[tifosi1993]

well on live timing i see that Aston is right there too. And to be exact Alo was even 1, 2 tenths faster then lec. Ves looks the fastest then Alo and then Per -Lec

Alonso started his sim with a 36.2, that's nearly 3 seconds faster than Charles.

Tells you everything of today's running and why focusing on these times is quite meaningless.

[stasera]

pls elaborate i dont know what this means

its said that is about steering balance

[tifosi1993]

i hope you are right man. if the timings above reflect the actual pace of the cars we are losing everywhere. only good is that we recovered top speed disadvantage

We will see the actual timings tomorrow. Hulkenberg in last year's Ferrari is only 4 tenths behind Alonso.

it will be Charles vs Max for the pole tomorrow. And Charles will take it.

[tifosi1993]

Pole will be around 1:29.1-1:29.3

A high 1:28 is possible with a perfect lap.

[elnano14]

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Our race pace is 1s slower than Red Bull (Max) and Aston (Alonso) on softs...

[Juan]

A much more realistic FP2 after so many test sessions, under the same conditions with which the race will be. The first laps they did 2 qualifying simulations and they didn't go very well, Charles was 4th and Carlos 14th but they weren't good laps. Leclerc also talked about some clutch problems that were later fixed. The last 25 minutes were for race simulations and here's the thing... Ferrari times were steady and good with little degradation, but the Red Bulls and Alonso were quicker. We are going to wait for information about the stints to arrive and in a few hours we are going to analyze it in detail. There is still a lot of work to be done for tomorrow.

[stasera]

Race pace:

VER, 37.220, soft, SD = 0.223
ALO, 37.247, soft, SD = 0.573
PER, 37.691, soft, SD = 0.435
LEC, 37.749, soft, SD = 0.231
SAI, 38.148, soft, SD = 0.271
RUS, 38.363, soft, SD = 0.495
HAM, 38.566, soft, SD = 0.467

STR, 38.377, med, SD = 0.433

not terrible, but not good too

SD means standard deviation, which tells us the spread of the lap times.

Less spread out lap times are better, normally implying lower degradation.

tyre degradation is good on our side

[brucewayne]

Race pace:

VER, 37.220, soft, SD = 0.223
ALO, 37.247, soft, SD = 0.573
PER, 37.691, soft, SD = 0.435
LEC, 37.749, soft, SD = 0.231
SAI, 38.148, soft, SD = 0.271
RUS, 38.363, soft, SD = 0.495
HAM, 38.566, soft, SD = 0.467

STR, 38.377, med, SD = 0.433

not terrible, but not good too

SD means standard deviation, which tells us the spread of the lap times.

Less spread out lap times are better, normally implying lower degradation.

tyre degradation is good on our side

Most important news is that tyre degradation looks very good. We have more pace in hand.

[fastcarchar]

Hi all

Long time since I logged in here! Shocking the lack of support of Ferrari fans here ATM
Nothing more frustrating than seeing your team on the back foot on the build up to the race weekend but come on, we should be supportive of the team regardless if we win or lose! Doom & gloom don’t change a season, perhaps some of you guys need to start supporting a winning team! Ferrari can be frustrating but this is the team we chose to support no matter what. Although to the naked eye it looks as if we are not well placed for the next few races, I think Ferrari have been coy about their chances, we don’t see a quiet Ferrari usually, the team does seem different this year to previous years, if they’ve known their behind in previous seasons the top brass usually are very honest about this. Not this year though! Ferrari are smiling behind their blank faces, they appear to have cards not shown yet, I’m confident they have been slowing winding the car up until they finally release at some point tomorrow. They have explored a lot of what the car can’t do & know exactly what it can. Don’t forget the car was designed to have a wider operating window.

[wisepie]

I still don't think FP2 times are very representative, so I'm not going to get too despondent, the times are pretty close at the front and quali will be a bit mad, no team seems to be on another planet just yet but tomorrow may be a different story! Forza ragazzi!

[brucewayne]

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Our race pace is 1s slower than Red Bull (Max) and Aston (Alonso) on softs...

Not at all. The race is on sunday.