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    Quote Originally Posted by patrese86 View Post
    My last two cents (probably!) for tonight...

    Mercedes developed a car that was so radically different that didn't work. They stuck with it but ultimately with these new aero rules it's clear as day that whatever data through simulations they've gathered doesn't correlate to what happens on a race track.

    We are not that different in this respect it's just our car looks similar but the technical directive 39 must of played a far bigger part than Binotto was letting others know and our cars performance was fundementally linked to that because despite the porpoising we could generate so much downforce that it worked the tyres properly.
    Binotto didn’t know better, which would be a problem. Or he lied all the time and didn’t do the necessary steps last year. Both unforgivable.

    2023 is already more or less over. We won’t fight RB, and to be honest 2024 will be the same. So we should look at 2026? And fail again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I know, that's him though, says I'm making up things.

    btw, it was a response to your post that he laughed at.

    He won't admit it though. He'll still stand by his post that "I'm making up things."
    Laughing at someone's comment is not quite the same, so when did I laugh AT Aston Martin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I was laughing at your comment, as I tend to do often.
    His comment wasn't far off was it?
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Laughing at someone's comment is not quite the same, so when did I laugh AT Aston Martin?
    Did you read what you said? Or should I repost it here?
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Did you read what you said? Or should I repost it for it here?
    I know what I said, I laughed at his comment. Post it if you want won't change that fact.

    And I still don't think AM is something special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I know, that's him though, says I'm making up things.

    btw, it was a response to your post that he laughed at.

    He won't admit it though. He'll still stand by his post that "I'm making up things."
    It’s nothing new, we get used to it from Mr. Excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I know what I said, I laughed at his comment. Post it if you want won't change that fact.
    LOL......as usual. You're an amazing character I must admit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    LOL......as usual. You're an amazing character I must admit.
    So you make something up, then double down on it and turn it around onto me.....great stuff.

    I remember when you used to cheer Red Bull's overtaking a Ferrari....
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    https://twitter.com/fanaticsferrari/...PQnbDQMZYthg6Q

    Ricky: “You did a good job. Very consistent and no mistakes.”


    No mistakes? Consistent? You mean consistently slow. You lost positions and did nothing to make them up. The only thing you did was hold up your teammate. Stop coddling this mediocre driver ffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    So you make something up, then double down on it and turn it around onto me.....great stuff.

    I remember when you used to cheer Red Bull's overtaking a Ferrari....
    Hey, guess what, it's not just RedBull overtaking Ferrari, you'll have AMRF1 and soon Mercedes for 2023.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Hey, guess what, it's not just RedBull overtaking Ferrari, you'll have AMRF1 and soon Mercedes for 2023.
    And you will cheer them in doing so I suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    And you will cheer them in doing so I suspect.
    I commend them on their advancement in performance instead of mediocrity and stagnation.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    And you will cheer them in doing so I suspect.
    You are sending warnings regarding trolling or baiting, you should also send one to yourself. But I guess the rules don’t apply to you, I suspect.

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    2022 was our one chance to win the title and we threw it away…Instead of backing Charles, we prioritized Carlos. Instead of developing the F1-75, we gave up to build this turd of a car. That’s what is the most upsetting, we had a chance and blew it. And we won’t have a chance again for years. So disheartening.
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    Charles saying his pace was not much different to Carlos after they went to hards and he made some mistakes and once he lost being in the DRS zone he has nothing in the car to make up the gap and pass.

    But that does not fit into agenda on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    2022 was our one chance to win the title and we threw it away…Instead of backing Charles, we prioritized Carlos. Instead of developing the F1-75, we gave up to build this turd of a car. That’s what is the most upsetting, we had a chance and blew it. And we won’t have a chance again for years. So disheartening.
    After TD39, we were lost. And we are still. We wouldn’t have won anything. And we wont win anything. We had a headstart and look what we have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I commend them on their advancement in performance instead of mediocrity and stagnation.
    In 2020 we finished 6th just to remind you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    In 2020 we finished 6th just to remind you.
    In 2022, AMRF1 finished 7th. Your point is what again?
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    In 2022, AMRF1 finished 7th. Your point is what again?
    Yet to see you commend Ferrari for advancement in performance.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Charles saying his pace was not much different to Carlos after they went to hards and he made some mistakes and once he lost being in the DRS zone he has nothing in the car to make up the gap and pass.

    But that does not fit into agenda on here.
    Carlos was told that Charles has the pace to catch Hamilton. Sainz wanted to wait to get DRS on Hamilton. Obviously… After that, everything was set. No point to change anymore. But you won’t acknowledge the obvious.

    Nevertheless, our goal is to fight for wins. We missed all of our targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Yet to see you commend Ferrari for advancement in performance.....
    I get it, you're happy with being 4th, 3rd or 2nd in this turbo-hybrid era then with Ferrari F1 after 75 years in F1.

    RedBull has done it in less than 10 years.

    AMRF1 has done it in less than 1 years time.

    Mercedes will be back at the top fighting against AMRF1.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucewayne View Post
    Carlos was told that Charles has the pace to catch Hamilton. Sainz wanted to wait to get DRS on Hamilton. Obviously… After that, everything was set. No point to change anymore. But you won’t acknowledge the obvious.

    Nevertheless, our goal is to fight for wins. We missed all of our targets.
    I did not hear that radio, interesting can you post it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I get it, you're happy with being 4th, 3rd or 2nd in this turbo-hybrid era then with Ferrari F1 after 75 years in F1.

    RedBull has done it in less than 10 years.

    AMRF1 has done it in less than 1 years time.

    Mercedes will be back at the top fighting against AMRF1.
    When have I said I am happy, again making things up again.

    Length of time in F1 means nothing, its a ever changing sport.
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    What else is new,,same old results week in week out,followed by the blame game,and then followed by we must do better,followed by team in chaos followed by rumours followed by vigna and Vasquez round 3 what a minestrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I did not hear that radio, interesting can you post it?
    I will, if I find it online.

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    4th best team.Oh how the mighty have fallen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucewayne View Post
    After TD39, we were lost. And we are still. We wouldn’t have won anything. And we wont win anything. We had a headstart and look what we have done.
    Yeah looks like Ferrari had a great concept until TD39. That Merc initiated change dis for them and Ferrari and means everyone needs to shift to RB concept. TD39 has shoe horned everyone to RB concept.

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    The FIA have reversed their decision on the Alonso 10sec time penalty.

    Alonso keeps his 3rd place finish and trophy.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    The FIA have reversed their decision on the Alonso 10sec time penalty.

    Alonso keeps his 3rd place finish and trophy.
    It was an unfair decision anyway.
    I thought our car was quite fast on the soft tyres but as soon as the hards went on it became really sluggish. Hopefully it's a quick fix.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    The FIA have reversed their decision on the Alonso 10sec time penalty.

    Alonso keeps his 3rd place finish and trophy.
    Lol. What a joke of a formula. This is the correct result, but a bad look for F1. Suppose it was Hamilton on the podium they wouldn’t have reversed it. Maybe Toto’s envelope wasn’t big enough to keep the podium for George. Ah well….
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