2023 Dutch Grand Prix - Race

[tifosi1993]

Something is wrong with Charles car he is holding up a Haas

He is carrying floor damage. He is losing rear load in turn 1 and carrying 10 points loss of downforce.

[drax]

Just as we thought there was something wrong with his car in Spain?

Not interested in having discussion on fire driver A or B thank you.

Charles is having a terrible race, Carlos is doing a lot better on this race.

[tifosi1993]

Just as we thought there was something wrong with his car in Spain?

Still has 2 poles and 2 podiums. Why your favourite Sainz can't do the same?

[jgonzalesm6]

During the first couple of laps in the rain, CL cut chicane and when over the curbs and grass

That would be my guess. It didn't look like cutting the chicane would cause floor damage but I guess it did.

[Kyss4k]

Still has 2 poles and 2 podiums. Why your favourite Sainz can't do the same?

I don't like Sainz. I favoured Leclerc all the time. But as a fan I will be the first one to admit he is not good this season. He had few good performances, but most of the races it's just not him.

[tifosi1993]

That would be my guess. It didn't look like cutting the chicane would cause floor damage but I guess it did.

Yeah. It was low speed and surely this car's floor is not made of cheese.

[patrese86]

That would be my guess. It didn't look like cutting the chicane would cause floor damage but I guess it did.

I think it's because the chicane banks downwards

[Schumiklub]

Charles is on course to be the last in the race, everyone behind him with DRS.

[tifosi1993]

I don't like Sainz. I favoured Leclerc all the time. But as a fan I will be the first one to admit he is not good this season. He had few good performances, but most of the races it's just not him.

What most races? Spain and today where he's carrying floor damage? You only show your face here when Leclerc having a bad race.

[DJTaurus]

I heard that lec got into the pits without the team calling for a pit that’s why the delay with the inters.

[tifosi1993]

Just retire the car and save the engine. Do the sensible thing for once.

[Kyss4k]

What most races? Spain and today where he's carrying floor damage? You only show your face here when Leclerc having a bad race.

Do you actually watch the races? He is not that fast guy who dominates his teammate like last years. If you can't see that, you are blind, sorry. His pace is nothing special compared to even Sainz, who I count as a mediocre driver, lot's of times Sainz is faster than him (that's a fact as I am glued to live timing each race). And it's in almost every race. I hate that.

[tifosi1993]

He was doing low 1:16's during the Friday long runs, and today can't even do a single 1:16 lap today.

[jgonzalesm6]

Charles: "We are so slow, struggling like crazy."

[Schumiklub]

Charles is losing even more load. He says he can feel it. He says if there is more rain coming they can continue, but if not there is no point in continuing.

[stefa]

This is EMBARRASSING!!! RETIRE THE CAR!!!!

[Schumiklub]

And Charles retires.

[stefa]

Finally!

[tifosi1993]

Do you actually watch the races? He is not that fast guy who dominates his teammate like last years. If you can't see that, you are blind, sorry. His pace is nothing special compared to even Sainz, who I count as a mediocre driver, lot's of times Sainz is faster than him (that's a fact as I am glued to live timing each race). And it's in almost every race. I hate that.

He is ahead of Sainz in both qualifying and head-head stat. His best finish is P2 while Sainz isn't even able to finish inside the top 4. And if Sainz is a "mediocre" driver then what that makes Norris, who couldn't even beat Sainz while they were teammates?

You seem to hate the drivers. Instead, you should pour your "hatred" on the people at the factory. Can't build a good car, always doing something wrong in every frigging year.

[Kyss4k]

He is ahead of Sainz in both qualifying and head-head stat. His best finish is P2 while Sainz isn't even able to finish inside the top 4. And if Sainz is a "mediocre" driver then what that makes Norris, who couldn't even beat Sainz while they were teammates?

You seem to hate the drivers. Instead, you should pour "hatred" on the people at the factory. Can't build a good car, always doing something wrong in every frigging year.

You judge others without knowing them... nice. I don't hate Leclerc, he is my favourite driver currently. I just admit, when he is doing poorly, which you can't do. That's it. Move on, he is out of the race anyways.

[Nick Singer]

The biggest clown team in global sport. End of.

[tifosi1993]

I would suggest people to watch Max's onboard and compare it with Charles/Sainz. The RB19 makes the Ferrari look like a Formula 2 car.

[drax]

Very good race from Carlos

[tifosi1993]

You judge others without knowing them... nice. I don't hate Leclerc, he is my favourite driver currently. I just admit, when he is doing poorly, which you can't do. That's it. Move on, he is out of the race anyways.

Yeah, he's out because he was carrying floor damage. But instead, you're bashing him and dubbing him "slow". And not for the first time this year. Even last year you were bashing him.

[tifosi1993]

Gasly had a time penalty, Fer had a bad pitstop. Surely Carlos would be able to hold on to his P3.

[tifosi1993]

And he can't

[stefa]

And CS lost to FA

[stefa]

This car is just BIG GARBAGE!!!!

[tifosi1993]

Forget podium, it would be tough to beat Russell.

[stefa]

PG is way more faster than CS