2023 Qatar Grand Prix - Race

**Whatsyourangle** · 8th October 2023, 18:42

Ferrari again showing signs of uncompetitiveness. Who's the main responsible for the irrelevance the scuderia has shown over the last years?

**Aviamata** · 8th October 2023, 18:43

This race is no hope for us. Even Mercedes would still outscore us

**stefa** · 8th October 2023, 18:58

This will be penalty for FA

**Greig** · 8th October 2023, 18:59

Originally Posted by stefa

This will be penalty for FA

Should be, very poor rejoin.

**stefa** · 8th October 2023, 18:59

Originally Posted by Aviamata

This race is no hope for us. Even Mercedes would still outscore us

6th at the best

**stefa** · 8th October 2023, 19:00

Originally Posted by Greig

Should be, very poor rejoin.

That was same as me on PS5

**guro** · 8th October 2023, 19:00

0.5s slower per lap than mercedes on same tyre..

**stefa** · 8th October 2023, 19:02

Originally Posted by guro

0.5s slower per lap than mercedes on same tyre..

GR is flying

**stefa** · 8th October 2023, 19:05

SP another 5 sec time penalty

**paolo lalli** · 8th October 2023, 19:06

It is what it is scrap points only today.Next race should be much better the ferrari is a prancing horse not a prancing camel.

**stefa** · 8th October 2023, 19:14

On the other hand, Ferrari pit crew today did really fast stops!

**Greig** · 8th October 2023, 19:24

Sooner this season ends the better....

**Redfive** · 8th October 2023, 19:26

Originally Posted by Greig

Sooner this season ends the better....

Will Ferrari be any better in 2024 though.. heres hoping (yet again)

**stefa** · 8th October 2023, 19:27

Maybe CL can catch GR

**stefa** · 8th October 2023, 19:30

Originally Posted by stefa

Maybe CL can catch GR

Unfortunately NO! There is no pace in that Ferrari

**FerrariF60** · 8th October 2023, 19:31

So were 30 seconds off the lead??
What a crapy sf23 is
On the other hand those mclarens have come off a long way since Bahrain....and al this under the budget cap....hats off to them

**ferrari1.8t** · 8th October 2023, 19:36

The Ferrari is nowhere, next year can’t come soon enough. Hopefully Fred builds us a car that can challenge for wins from day 1. Time will tell.

Curious to see if the stewards come down on golden boy for causing a collision and for walking across a live race track.

**nani_s23** · 8th October 2023, 19:36

I don’t know what to say. P5 maximum. Well driven by Leclerc.

Absolutely no pace at all on that Ferrari car.

Whenever I see these mclarens on podiums & getting such results the more I hate Mattia binotto/team.

**tifosi1993** · 8th October 2023, 19:37

The tyre wear was good and the balance was ok, but what killed us today was lack of front end in high speed corners. Max, Mclarens and Russell was on another level in high speed corners.

Also the understeery balance didn't help. We were giving away times in the long radius - slow speed turn 1, laps after laps.

There is a long road ahead of us. Mclaren are now only 79 points behind.

**PURE PASSION** · 8th October 2023, 19:40

Originally Posted by Greig

Sooner this season ends the better....

THIS !!!

**Aviamata** · 8th October 2023, 19:41

Finally the nightmare in desert is ended

**tifosi1993** · 8th October 2023, 19:41

Originally Posted by nani_s23

I donâ€™t know what to say. P5 maximum. Well driven by Leclerc.

Absolutely no pace at all on that Ferrari car.

Whenever I see these mclarens on podiums & getting such results the more I hate Mattia binotto/team.

Relatively, the pace wasn't too bad. Charles did 1:24.992 on the last lap, Max did 1:24.319 on a brand new mediums. Also Charles was getting faster towards the end of stint every time, so good tyre management by him.

The car simply doesn't have any pace in high speed corners and can't turn as swifly as the RB, Mclaren and Merc in long radius corners, mainly because of its inherent understeer balance.

**nani_s23** · 8th October 2023, 19:43

Originally Posted by Aviamata

Finally the nightmare in desert is ended

More to come … Mexico.

**tifosi1993** · 8th October 2023, 19:43

Perez was embarrassing today, 6 track limit infringements, only 1 more than Gasly.

**Redfive** · 8th October 2023, 19:44

Piastri impresses me a great deal, not only his race pace but with his down to earth attitude out of the car. He reminds me of Schumi sometimes.
Wonder if we can see him in red one day?

**nani_s23** · 8th October 2023, 19:44

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

Perez was embarrassing today, 6 track limit infringements, only 1 more than Gasly.

He’s out 2025.

**nani_s23** · 8th October 2023, 19:46

Mclaren have a new headache now PIA vs Norris….. Mercedes the same GR vs Ham … Ferrari the same Carlos vs Charles

Only the team that doesn’t have any worries is RB …. Perez is far off from Max as the team is built around Max.

**nani_s23** · 8th October 2023, 19:47

Originally Posted by Redfive

Piastri impresses me a great deal, not only his race pace but with his down to earth attitude out of the car. He reminds me of Schumi sometimes.
Wonder if we can see him in red one day?

Norris will move to RB & PIA will move to Ferrari one day or vice-versa

**Aviamata** · 8th October 2023, 19:47

Originally Posted by Redfive

Piastri impresses me a great deal, not only his race pace but with his down to earth attitude out of the car. He reminds me of Schumi sometimes.
Wonder if we can see him in red one day?

He's old and don't have the ultimate pace to compete with one of our boys . I think we should have 2 drivers with same driving style