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    Look like a dream team is coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    I'm not. I have zero worry about our pace, both long and short. Right now, I'm only putting Max-Red Bull ahead of us, but they didn't look that strong today as they did during the testing.
    Watch this tumble over.

    Max in the redbull is always a favourite. I think McLaren is a lot closer to redbull than both Ferrari and Mercedes are.

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    Ferrari: @Fred__18 points out something interesting about the SF-24's behavior in FP2.

    - Sainz is very fast in the corners, but very slow on the straight and seems to suffer a little when braking. The lap is very balanced until turn 8 then Verstappen starts to go faster.

    - Leclerc holds up well throughout the lap, but again very slow on the straight.

    - Ferrari seems to have a very weak engine mode and/or a lot of fuel. Some approximations when braking, but overall not inferior to Mercedes
    Take it as you whant. I just mention it .
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    Something interesting I've noticed:

    Main straight: Lewis on 8th gear just after the finish line, Charles on 8th gear before the advertising board. But the SF24 reached the 7th gear much earlier than the Merc, but Charles stayed on it a lot longer than Lewis. Also turn 1-2, the Merc is full of understeer while the SF24 looks planted and hit the apex easily.

    Straight after the first two corners: Lewis on 8th gear but Charles stayed on 7th.

    Turn 10: Again the SF24 looks much better. The Merc again with the understeer and Lewis missed the apex while Charles had no such problem.

    Straight after turn 10: Lewis again on 8th gear and he was short shifting quite aggressively, Charles stayed on 7th.

    Last straight: Same old story, Lewis on 8th gear and Charles on 7th, and again the SF24 accelerated faster out of turn 13.

    Turn 11-12-13: The SF24 is faster and has better change of direction than the Merc.

    I think it's quite clear why the Merc looks so good in the first and the last sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Something interesting I've noticed:

    Main straight: Lewis on 8th gear just after the finish line, Charles on 8th gear before the advertising board. But the SF24 reached the 7th gear much earlier than the Merc, but Charles stayed on it a lot longer than Lewis. Also turn 1-2, the Merc is full of understeer while the SF24 looks planted and hit the apex easily.

    Straight after the first two corners: Lewis on 8th gear but Charles stayed on 7th.

    Turn 10: Again the SF24 looks much better. The Merc again with the understeer and Lewis missed the apex while Charles had no such problem.

    Straight after turn 10: Lewis again on 8th gear and he was short shifting quite aggressively, Charles stayed on 7th.

    Last straight: Same old story, Lewis on 8th gear and Charles on 7th, and again the SF24 accelerated faster out of turn 13.

    Turn 11-12-13: The SF24 is faster and has better change of direction than the Merc.

    I think it's quite clear why the Merc looks so good in the first and the last sector.
    I wonder if W15 understeer is deliberately to suit Hamilton driving style

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Something interesting I've noticed:

    Main straight: Lewis on 8th gear just after the finish line, Charles on 8th gear before the advertising board. But the SF24 reached the 7th gear much earlier than the Merc, but Charles stayed on it a lot longer than Lewis. Also turn 1-2, the Merc is full of understeer while the SF24 looks planted and hit the apex easily.

    Straight after the first two corners: Lewis on 8th gear but Charles stayed on 7th.

    Turn 10: Again the SF24 looks much better. The Merc again with the understeer and Lewis missed the apex while Charles had no such problem.

    Straight after turn 10: Lewis again on 8th gear and he was short shifting quite aggressively, Charles stayed on 7th.

    Last straight: Same old story, Lewis on 8th gear and Charles on 7th, and again the SF24 accelerated faster out of turn 13.

    Turn 11-12-13: The SF24 is faster and has better change of direction than the Merc.

    I think it's quite clear why the Merc looks so good in the first and the last sector.
    higher engine mode??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviamata View Post
    I wonder if W15 understeer is deliberately to suit Hamilton driving style
    but that can't be good for the tyres over a race distance, NO??

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    So in FP2 long runs , McL and Pia where clearly 2nd fastest. The same who on race sim in testing against Lec was 1+ sec / lap slower ????!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    So in FP2 long runs , McL and Pia where clearly 2nd fastest. The same who on race sim in testing against Lec was 1+ sec / lap slower ????!!!
    sandbagging much in testing?? me thinks so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    sandbagging much in testing?? me thinks so....
    this or we where heavier / lower pu , today
    we will see tomorrow and Saturday
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    Ferrari worked hard on the SF-24 during the first day of free practice at the Bahrain Grand Prix. - Good traction and speed in the center of the turn. - Oversteer at turn 3 - Low motor mode. - The rear still needs to be adjusted. Although we don't know the fuel charges, one fact is worth noting. During Ferrari's high-fuel testing, Sainz and Leclerc had fairly low engine mapping. This is evidenced by the fact that at the end of the long finishing straight, they couldn't even engage eighth gear. For the flying lap, Charles wasted the first two attempts. The SF-24's traction seems really good, as do the mid-corner speeds. What remains to be addressed is the rear end and excessive oversteer, something Ferrari hopes to achieve tomorrow. After studying the settings in the simulator this evening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    higher engine mode??
    Yup

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    At the 43.00 minute mark on F1TV FP2, they show a graph where Sainz loses 0.316s to Hamilton in sector 1.

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    Hamilton and Russell were quickest in��Sector 1 (two straights connected by a chicane) and��Sector 3 (medium-speed corner, straight, medium-speed corner)

    McLaren, Aston and Ferrari were quicker in the twisty��Sector 2

    Best top speed: Haas (319km/h)
    Haas definitely using a higher engine map.

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    TYRE AGES AT THE START OF THE LONG RUNS IN FP2

    Ferrari started their long runs with older tyres than their rivals

    LEC: 8
    SAI: 7

    ALO: 5
    STR: 6
    RUS: 5
    HAM: 5
    PIA: 5
    NOR: 5
    VER: 5
    PER: 5
    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    "Due to the farmers protest in France, Alpine has decided to show their support and bring a tractor to Bahrain."
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Seems to be they were heavy with fuel with used tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmorin27 View Post
    Seems to be they were heavy with fuel with used tires
    Who?

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    Oh my bag ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by gump1480 View Post
    Could be a draggy car too !!
    draggier than the Haas

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    So it's confirmed that SF24 is running low-engine mapping , even lower than testing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    "Due to the farmers protest in France, Alpine has decided to show their support and bring a tractor to Bahrain."
    Classic !!
    Drive it like you stole it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    draggier than the Haas
    Nope. This is the same car that we had during the testing. The SF24 was easily reaching 298-301km/h in race sim during the testing, yesterday it never went above 288 during the long run.


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    Mercedes likely used a higher engine mode than Ferrari and Red Bull today.

    The SF-24 and RB20 machines have more pace in their locker.

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    We shouldn't forget that Sainz did a 29.9 on C4 during the test.

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    maximum and minimum speeds.jpg

    We notice a 3kmh difference with the Ferrari number 16, whose engine seems to make a certain difference given that Hulkenberg also manages to obtain an excellent top speed. If we look at the maximum speeds it doesn't seem that Mercedes has increased the power and "distorted" the results. On the contrary, the track suggests that Brackely 's team is in the average of the other teams. We can say that the W15s worked well, unlocking performance thanks to better work of the rear suspension, equipped with a practically horizontal strut.

    The German team tried a setup with very low ground clearance, so much so that the number 63 produced sparks in every part of the track in the first laps. They therefore tried to produce as much load as possible, but during testing they had to raise the car by one or two millimeters at the front. A light in the t-tray area suggests that they were also carrying out some tests with sensors to study the optimal ride height .

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    Car is looking really good from the onboard. Not moving at all, rear looks planted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forza SF View Post
    maximum and minimum speeds.jpg

    We notice a 3kmh difference with the Ferrari number 16, whose engine seems to make a certain difference given that Hulkenberg also manages to obtain an excellent top speed. If we look at the maximum speeds it doesn't seem that Mercedes has increased the power and "distorted" the results. On the contrary, the track suggests that Brackely 's team is in the average of the other teams. We can say that the W15s worked well, unlocking performance thanks to better work of the rear suspension, equipped with a practically horizontal strut.

    The German team tried a setup with very low ground clearance, so much so that the number 63 produced sparks in every part of the track in the first laps. They therefore tried to produce as much load as possible, but during testing they had to raise the car by one or two millimeters at the front. A light in the t-tray area suggests that they were also carrying out some tests with sensors to study the optimal ride height .
    Neither Ferrari went above 311 during their fastest lap. That 316 from Charles was because of the DRS, he was using it to overtake Perez.

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    Qualifying is next. NOW we will see the pecking order in qualifying at this specific track.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Why is Leclerc so much slower in S1 when compared to Sainz ? Still playing with Engine modes or making mistakes in turn1-2?

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