2025 Pre-Season Testing

[Kyss4k]

I wouldn't be surprised if McLaren was way ahead of us and others. They had the best car at the end of last season and they still pushed hard with the new one and are doing things others are not (front suspension). I remeber vividly how Ferrari in 2023 or 2024 said that front pullrod is not needed and now we decided to went with it, last year these regulations... But when others already have experiance with it and are now pushing it to extreme (McLaren again for example) we have the most basic pull rod setup and are now learning. I feared back then if that decission would haunt us later. But I still keep my hope alive... even though looking at today's onboards and the race sim times it's becoming harder and harder.

[Aviamata]

Well Charles and Fred's interview made me feeling doom .

[FerrariF60]

Well Australia won't tell us anything, if we wait to make a conclusion than we should wait at least 5 GPs, but this test has 2023 test vibes

nah, your're overthinking it mate
im sure Ferrari will analyze the TONS of data they collected and will come up with a solution that will surprise us all come Australia

but you're right, it's gonna take 4-5 grand prix until we get the real picture if we have a car that can fight for wins weekend in weekend out

have more faith in the team will ya??

[Aziz]

nah, your're overthinking it mate
im sure Ferrari will analyze the TONS of data they collected and will come up with a solution that will surprise us all come Australia

but you're right, it's gonna take 4-5 grand prix until we get the real picture if we have a car that can fight for wins weekend in weekend out

have more faith in the team will ya??

Having fate in the team since 1999 😃
I'm just saying as I see it and I see it like not good. Hopefully I'm wrong

[Aziz]

Well Charles and Fred's interview made me feeling doom .

What did they said?

[Aviamata]

What did they said?

Basically:

"the balance needs work"
"tracks at the start are atypical"
"we will give everything"
"the car has to be there"
"Right year? I hope so"
"time will tell"

[rakman]

I watched all the sessions from start to finish and I must admit that I don't remember a test for Ferrari that looked so bad. Especially today, when the car should be more or less in the best shape, it looks terrible. Handling before brake was terrible, but most teams had problems due to the higher track temperature. In the afternoon, when the track became more representative, the teams started to gain speed. Unfortunately, this does not apply to Ferrari. There were very few laps for Lewis, 2 full tank long runs attempts with a terrible pace compared to the competition. Cosmic degradation lap by lap. Finally, the runs were shortened, so we don't have a real race simulation in the conditions that will be on race weekend. I hope I'm wrong, or that I just don't understand, but I don't know what can be tested in this way, I feel that something is fundamentally wrong...

[Greig]

Basically:

"the balance needs work"
"tracks at the start are atypical"
"we will give everything"
"the car has to be there"
"Right year? I hope so"
"time will tell"

And what's the problem with that?

[Aziz]

I watched all the sessions from start to finish and I must admit that I don't remember a test for Ferrari that looked so bad. Especially today, when the car should be more or less in the best shape, it looks terrible. Handling before brake was terrible, but most teams had problems due to the higher track temperature. In the afternoon, when the track became more representative, the teams started to gain speed. Unfortunately, this does not apply to Ferrari. There were very few laps for Lewis, 2 full tank long runs attempts with with a terrible pace compared to the competition. Cosmic degradation lap by lap. Finally, the runs are shortened, so we don't have a real race simulation in the conditions that will be on race weekend. I hope I'm wrong, or that I just don't understand, but I don't know what can be tested in this way, I feel that something is fundamentally wrong...

Very well said, my feeling exactly.
Something is very very wrong.
You don't waste the only test before the season like this if there is not something fundamentally wrong

[Aviamata]

And what's the problem with that?

I don't have any problem with these but these are typical answers when something is not right

[tifosi1993]

Right now, Mclaren has the strongest package. About us, I'm not sure.

[elnano14]

Lewis had some issues with the car in his latest run

[Greig]

I don't have any problem with these but these are typical answers when something is not right

Are they? or you just want them to be....

[subfire91]

calm down guys! Yes it was pretty horrendous today but yesterday the car was pretty good.

That 29:3 from HAM seemed pretty effortless for me.

It shows they are trying different setups to understand the new base.

Give it time we will know soon enough!!

[Nick Singer]

Having fate in the team since 1999 
I'm just saying as I see it and I see it like not good. Hopefully I'm wrong

I've been 'having faith in the team' since 1979 - when Jody Scheckter joined Ferrari! Still, I had the Schuey years!

[Nick Singer]

And wasn't HAM quicker yesterday then Russell was today?

Pfft!

Following the Scuderia is tougher than being a Norwich City fan!

#ForzaFerrari #OnTheBallCity!

[ss-89]

Not going to get hyped or downcast over testing. Hell not even going to get excited about qualifying in Aus. The real excitement/disappointment will be on the outcome of the sunday race. If we are 60 seconds off the pace, yh I'll go drown my sorrows...However, if we are keeping pace (not necessarily winning) with a brand new suspension concept and ahead of any major upgrades then I might feel positive for once!

We were 50 seconds behind Verstappen in Bahrain last year and 30 seconds in Saudi and ended up nearly winning the WCC...

[Cavallino]

there's a such thing as setting sweeps guys

[FerrariF60]

Very well said, my feeling exactly.
Something is very very wrong.
You don't waste the only test before the season like this if there is not something fundamentally wrong

but before the test they were mentioning that the car in the sumulator is that much better than the sf24....blah, blah, blah....so what happened?? don't tell me we're back to correlation problems between wind tunnel and real world

[FerrariF60]

Right now, Mclaren has the strongest package. About us, I'm not sure.

maybe we're THAT confident in our car, that we're trying to sell a dummy to the competition that our car is really bad and needs lots of work...who knows

[PURE PASSION]

🔴 Ferrari: Very interesting analysis from @Fred__18 on the car's behavior.

- The SF-25 definitely has potential to extract and the engineers are seeing the load levels they expected to find, but at the moment what is lacking is balance. This is what we see with the rear not following properly and also struggling for traction, while the front has become very (even too) precise and responsive. The car is not balanced between the axles and the handling suffers a lot.

- There is work to be done to find the right balance and extract the potential of the car, which is probably high, given that when they found these moments of balance, the performance was immediately perceived as excellent.

- So let's see if they can do it and how they will go about it from Melbourne. Between a front and a rear that is weak by design, the rear is better because it is easier to correct than a front that, if it does not turn, has no chance of getting out of it.

[Cavallino]

there's tons of pace left.

hamilton's time yesterday was only .5 or even less faster than last year's time by Sainz?

we're not slower than Williams.

for the long run stuff, i think we're trying to find the compromise between qualifying and race that wasn't there last year

[FerrariF60]

Not going to get hyped or downcast over testing. Hell not even going to get excited about qualifying in Aus. The real excitement/disappointment will be on the outcome of the sunday race. If we are 60 seconds off the pace, yh I'll go drown my sorrows...However, if we are keeping pace (not necessarily winning) with a brand new suspension concept and ahead of any major upgrades then I might feel positive for once!

We were 50 seconds behind Verstappen in Bahrain last year and 30 seconds in Saudi and ended up nearly winning the WCC...

very well said.....now there's someone that knows what they are talking about....i'm sure the team will look at the enormous amounts of data they collected and come up with a decent set up for the first race

have faith in our beloved team folks.

[Cavallino]

very well said.....now there's someone that knows what they are talking about....i'm sure the team will look at the enormous amounts of data they collected and come up with a decent set up for the first race

have faith in our beloved team folks.

yep and don't forget everything changes at round 9.

did anyone see the slow mo's of McLaren's front wing? ridiculous that they're allowed to do that for 8 races.

[FerrariF60]

yep and don't forget everything changes at round 9.

did anyone see the slow mo's of McLaren's front wing? ridiculous that they're allowed to do that for 8 races.

yeah, don't get me started on that....that is JOKE if you ask me
it should have been BANNED from the beginning of the season NOT after 8 races so they can get an advantage and possibly a lot of points.....Jeeez

[FerrariF60]

Common, so after 3 days of testing you guys are really buying that Williams is a tenth off Merc and that Ferrari is 8 tenths slower than a williams???

you guys are something else....lololol

[elnano14]

�� Ferrari: Very interesting analysis from @Fred__18 on the car's behavior.

- The SF-25 definitely has potential to extract and the engineers are seeing the load levels they expected to find, but at the moment what is lacking is balance. This is what we see with the rear not following properly and also struggling for traction, while the front has become very (even too) precise and responsive. The car is not balanced between the axles and the handling suffers a lot.

- There is work to be done to find the right balance and extract the potential of the car, which is probably high, given that when they found these moments of balance, the performance was immediately perceived as excellent.

- So let's see if they can do it and how they will go about it from Melbourne. Between a front and a rear that is weak by design, the rear is better because it is easier to correct than a front that, if it does not turn, has no chance of getting out of it.

So the car is very pointy, has a strong front end (which suit Leclerc) but lacks traction (one of the strongest area of SF-24) and rear end

Weak rear end is easier to correct than a weak front end ?

[stefa]

I've been 'having faith in the team' since 1979 - when Jody Scheckter joined Ferrari! Still, I had the Schuey years!

I was onboard in 1980, so pretty much the same!!!

[Always44]

Never show your hand too soon. I'm sure Lewis will get a podium at the very least or even the win. Don't worry!

[Greig]

Changing the front suspension might well be causing us problems, it was never going to be a easy gain to just switch it as it changes the dynamics of the car.

I am sure we will understand it sooner or later.