2025 Australian Grand Prix - Race

[aroutis]

We should be fighting for top positions not internal battle. Look at where we ended.

We were not competitive. Point blank.
There was nothing wrong in Charles overtaking Lewis who (let's face it) was not fast today and the team was hunting for maximum points !

[tifosi1993]

It rained so, yeah, that was going to jumble things pretty random.

In China they'll be in the top 5 again, but you'll still be wetting yourself at every pitstop, every corner, every place gained or lost. Seriously, go touch grass. It's racing. It's supposed to be fun.

It wasn't raining yesterday.

But as I've said, blind. Go touch soap.

[nani_s23]

Ferrari got it wrong from Saturday FP3. Their quali pace is gone & in race they are nowhere.

Pit calls & Strategy back to old business.

[nani_s23]

Kick Sauber - 6pts
Ferrari - 5 pts

Binotto laughing around the corner

[Msdiabl0]

It wasn't raining yesterday.

But as I've said, blind. Go touch soap.

This guy again. Why isnt your name leclercloverboy. You aren't tifosi plz stop pretending. You mask leclerc's issues and always go at his teammates. Should be counting and pointing out his mistakes too but oh well. As Hamilton fans enter the fray it's more fun watching this lunatic and fanboys go at it than Ferrari making the wrong calls every race.

[jgonzalesm6]

Kick Sauber - 6pts
Ferrari - 5 pts

Binotto laughing around the corner

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And that was just with 1 driver from Kick Sauber!!

[GoodtimesF1]

When you have no pace you take silly gambles on the pitwall.

I'm no stranger to calling our team clowns when it comes to strategy, but we have to be fair. When a team has the fastest car, the strategy always looks genius.

As for the Newey discussion. Yeah, would have been a nice to have but let's also not forget that his winning cars were built with the top teams with big budgets. Before Vettel won his first title, there was a 10 year period where a Newey car did not win a championship. After the Vettel streak it was again 7 years without a title. And I would go as far in saying that 2 of the 4 Max Verstappen titles where based on Max's luck and talent (2021 and 2024). Ofcourse 12 title winning cars is alot but we are talking about a 36 year carreer in F1 of which 33 years spent at the absolute top teams with the best budgets. In that time he's had periods of cars not winning any titles. He's a good designer but he's not the magic bullet that would have made us win titles instantly.

[paolo lalli]

Could not agree more his arrival at Aston martin is no guarantee for success Adrian is a realist and is more than aware of his task.On a bright note lewis scores first ever points in Red.Charles with all of his ferrari experience was just woeful.

[Boxerevo]

[nani_s23]

Fred on sky: Mclaren is a step ahead & then Merc/RB/Ferrari fall into one category.

The question is at what point Ferrari will realise stop developing SF-25 & focus on 2026.

[Nomore]

No need to be over pessimistic. We dont know yet the real potential of this car. From the top we are the one that changed the most so there is the most room to improve... it could be that in the second half of the year we are clearly the fastest...kinda 2024 where reb bull dominated the first half and then we and McLaren took the lead. We have to wait,things could swing drastically in 6/7 races from now.

Keep the delta positive
Have a nice sunday

[Cavallino]

It wasn't raining yesterday.

But as I've said, blind. Go touch soap.

as i said earlier, i'd rather be quick at conventional tracks, instead of the one of tracks like this one where we were competitive last year.

Not to mention the abnormal weather conditions.

I will say that there is definitely a gap in qualifying still that needs to be closed quickly.

[Red is Best]

I'm glad I didn't wake up at 5 am to watch this disaster. It's going to be a looooong season folks.

[Dune]

We’ve seen RB era, Merc era, now it’s McLaren era. Ferrari never disappoints.

It seems that Ferrari always finds a way to screw things up. How can you start a season with such a deficit?

[Dune]

Fred on sky: Mclaren is a step ahead & then Merc/RB/Ferrari fall into one category.

The question is at what point Ferrari will realise stop developing SF-25 & focus on 2026.

The goal for this year is the championship. It has been well communicated, everything else is a failure.

[patrese86]

So even though the qualifying was awful and the race pace in the wet was awful we still had a good chance for good points but we keep our drivers out on slicks when it’s raining like that. One lap fine just to see but to do what we did….some things never change.

[tifosi1993]

McLaren have proved that with the right people and time, a turnaround is possible.

Do Ferrari have the right people?

[F2008]

Classic Ferrari.
Maybe next year.

[Dune]

McLaren have proved that with the right people and time, a turnaround is possible.

Do Ferrari have the right people?

Good question. Rob Marshall seems to be the difference maker at McLaren. I am not sure if Ferrari has an answer.

[Aziz]

It seems that Ferrari always finds a way to screw things up. How can you start a season with such a deficit?

Like every season since 2008, 2022 was a one off, they are experienced in doing so.
You could say they are VERY consistent

[PURE PASSION]

It looks like we have a major problem in general.
Is it a curse? Is it something higher??
We are talking about the " team" but the team is just a group of people doing a job.
Now since 2014 we have change those people ( from the TP to the receptionist) multiple times and the results are always the same.
We could do a goodish year building hope thay something good is happening and the new " team" is something special, just to next year comes and destroy that feeling by being nowhere and doing everything wrong.
So what to hope for ? If again they don't deliver ?
2026?
You have McLaren who look that they actually have built a team that have found their path and they deliver consistent and always evolving.
Then RedBull/ Merc looks that they are still there or thereabout but certainly they haven't lost it.
And then you have Aston Martin who thay have invested big time in everything and they now have Newey to orchestrate all this witch means they will almost certain be their on the top.
So what to expect on us , when we again have a team who until FP2 looks like everything is good and we can fight , to arrive Saturday and Sunday and doing everything wrong and enforce up on the bottom. And to look like it's not just one off but to have no real answers.
Ok I said it before, as always , we have to wait 4-5 races in a season to see the real performance order and that's the case this year too. But the disappointment is that the team till FP2 was confident and pointed clearly for pole / win and to end up with this results on pure performance is disastrous.
And what happened if we really in trouble and slow ? Are we need ANOTHER change in the team ? And what change?
It looks like if this team doesn't turn things around, we are doomed for mediocre/ bad result's for many many years to come!!!:):)

[Greig]

1 race into the season and the white flag merchants are out in force

Nearly the full house of the usual whinging, just need the "move Ferrari to the UK" comments to complete the full house.

[Aziz]

1 race into the season and the white flag merchants are out in force

Nearly the full house of the usual whinging, just need the "move Ferrari to the UK" comments to complete the full house.

You are probably just paid to water this down, you are doing it for some time 😁

[Greig]

You are probably just paid to water this down, you are doing it for some time 

You still here? At least stick to your words.

Seems like your words just mean nothing really....

Well Australia won't tell us anything, if we wait to make a conclusion than we should wait at least 5 GPs, but this test has 2023 test vibes

[Aziz]

You still here? At least stick to your words.

Seems like your words just mean nothing really....

Its nice to see you pay attention to my words,
good job keep it up.

[Dune]

Fred is already starting to look for excuses regarding the next GP, as China could not be the strongest circuit for Ferrari. Concerning.

[PURE PASSION]

1 race into the season and the white flag merchants are out in force

Nearly the full house of the usual whinging, just need the "move Ferrari to the UK" comments to complete the full house.

Ιf that 1 race is like today's, its very logical.
We didnt qualy race in the top 3/5 to say that ok in this one the others where better we might get them next time. We where SO back on performance both Qualy and the race with no pace at all. Ok FP2 was good ,but is that our true performance and we did something wrong with set-up and mess up the rest of the weekend? And why to do that if we had o good pace to beging with ? Why risk something like this and didnt compete face on with the McLs and the rest ? The performance picture is alarming at least thats why lots of us are like this. We end up showing a lack of pace from at leas t0.5/lap to 1s . Thats big ,even more when up till FP2 we (the team / Lec not us) where talking about pole /win . And now they ( Vasseur / Lec) look defeated and only say "we have work to do"
So where to hang on to keep your hope ? Im truly asking not being sarcastic or anything .
For China Lec already say that we again might hit trouble bacause we where last year . So they didnt improve anything ?The 1st outcome from change conditions is that we didnt .

[Aziz]

Fred is already starting to look for excuses regarding the next GP, as China could not be the strongest circuit for Ferrari. Concerning.

That's the difference between championship teams and mediocre teams like Ferrari.
PR and excuses is all they know

[Greig]

Its nice to see you pay attention to my words,
good job keep it up.

Let's hope you can pay attention to them in future, but I doubt it as you already stated today you won't follow Ferrari anymore but here you still are....

[MSC Fan]

I remember just about last year when everybody were singing praises of Fred about how he, unlike his predecessors were able to turn things around mid-season even when things looked bleak post Spain upgrades. We almost won the constructor's title if it wasn't for the stupid crash Perez inflicted on Carlos in Baku. I understand that the car may not be up to the mark yet and the team made some blunders in pit strategy today (for which they should be rightfully criticized), but it should still be kept in mind that this is the first race of the year. McLaren may look like a strong contender that could run away with the title as of now but that's about what we thought about ourselves in 2022 in the first 3 races.