2025 Australian Grand Prix - Race

[paolo lalli]

Yes I must agree with that a very bad desicion by ferrari and the result was reflected.

[aroutis]

At the start Lewis started great, it charles blocked him and put him back.

When Charles over took it was due to the cars in front.

It is called RACING.

[Kyss4k]

What a great performance by our car and drivers. Charles was totally useless, being slow, unable to overtake and spinning. Lewis still not getting the car and lacking pace. Strategy like the good" old days and performance of the car? Well... I tried to believe we went with the so called "wet setup" but if that's true and we sacrificed our quali pace for a race pace which was nowhere near McLaren and Red Bull, then it's bye bye. What a fool I was to believe we are proper competitors once again. Ending behind a freaking Sauber is just devastating. Why do we Ferrari fans have to suffer for so long...

[jgonzalesm6]

I was about to post the same.

They’ve got very talented Alonso in, Vettel-RB became 4 time WDC
They’ve got Vettel in, Lewis-Mercs became 6 time WDC.
They’ve got Leclerc in, Max-RB became 4 time WDC
They’ve now got Lewis in, Norris will become 1 time WDC & next Mercs era will start.

It’s not issue with the drivers, Ferrari unable to build championship winning car. It’s an open fact.

Ferrari with much wealth not able lure top engineers & create a championship winning car all these years. Even for McLaren they had title drought, Look at McLaren-Zak Brawn came in couple of years ago marshalled his resources at the right place for the future & now he’s able to reap the benefits. That’s called a plan, vision, faith etc.

Hammer-->Nail-->Head

So Ferrari had one (1) bad race.
And so what?

There are 23 races to go. The question here is not about the bad race they had, it's about how they will recover.

Well sure, after trailing at the bottom of the barrel, the only way is up.......at least one hopes Ferrari goes in that direction.

[jgonzalesm6]

What a great performance by our car and drivers. Charles was totally useless, being slow, unable to overtake and spinning. Lewis still not getting the car and lacking pace. Strategy like the good" old days and performance of the car? Well... I tried to believe we went with the so called "wet setup" but if that's true and we sacrificed our quali pace for a race pace which was nowhere near McLaren and Red Bull, then it's bye bye. What a fool I was to believe we are proper competitors once again. Ending behind a freaking Sauber is just devastating. Why do we Ferrari fans have to suffer for so long...

How about that pass by Piastri against Hamilton in that double chicane? Nice defensive moves by a 7x WDC title holder! [sarcasm]

[jgonzalesm6]

A female fan gets it.

https://x.com/JunaidSamodien_/status...64195033403450

[Greig]

Good, you have acknowledged he has beaten Ferrari more often than not.

So not signing him up was a big mistake.

One man doesn't make all the difference, it never did and never will. Even Newey was title less from 2000-2009 and 2015-2020.

Ferrari's technical department is more than good enough. They just need to be more politically shrewd. And FV is the right man for that job.

[jgonzalesm6]

Nice pic of Mclarens front suspension arm. Very aggressive. RedBulls is similar. Ferrari's is more higher up the chassis and not as aggressive.

https://x.com/JunaidSamodien_/status...343871/photo/1

https://x.com/JunaidSamodien_/status...515458/photo/1

[FerrariF60]

There’s a lot difference now & then. Please don’t compare.

EXACTLY

look how competitive we were at the end of last year, and now we're in the SLUMPS....just because we have totally NEW car

[Cavallino]

There’s a lot difference now & then. Please don’t compare.

explain,

here's your chance to make a really good post.

this is a 99% new car. and a big regulation change coming in 7 races.

[Cavallino]

I'd rather be quick everywhere like Red Bull, Merc in their dominant years, and now McLaren.

Red Bull got beat badly in Singapore in their dominant year.

[Cavallino]

Warped point?? It's factual genius.

Let me tell you what was WARPED and I saw it yesterday from this team! It was humiliating as well.

1) Both Ferrari drivers got beaten by Lance Stroll. Of all people to get beaten by, Lance Stroll!!
2) Hulkenberg single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
3) Albon single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
4) Antonelli, a rookie, single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
5) Ferrari is currently P7 in the constructors title.
6) Kick Sauber is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P6...with 1 driver.
7) Aston Martin is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P5...with 1 driver.
8) Williams is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P4.....with 1 driver.

so the point of this post is Ferrari is slower than Sauber?

I don't understand.

Or is this just a low quality post that I need to ignore?

[Cavallino]

Yes I must agree with that a very bad desicion by ferrari and the result was reflected.

yeah, in hindsight, you don't go chasing victories in the first race. You bank the points.

[FerrariF60]

explain,

here's your chance to make a really good post.

this is a 99% new car. and a big regulation change coming in 7 races.

what big regulation change in 7 races?? the flippy/floppy wings mclaren have?? by then they'll have 350 points advantage in WCC....that's a lotta points for us to catch up

what i call BIG REGULATION change is come 2026.....that is BIG

[Cavallino]

Reports from Italy are saying ferrari had to make ride height adjustments which involves the plank of the SF 25 prior to Q3 and qualification, or risk being disqualified at the end of the Race this took the engineers by surprise and were clearly not ready this probably explains the sudden Drop off to no man's land.

the ride height adjustments had nothing to do with the coming rain?

and this goes with my point earlier about Australia being a weird track.

we do have to fix whatever it is for future street tracks.

and this is also in line with issues other teams had with this suspension design.

[Cavallino]

what big regulation change in 7 races?? the flippy/floppy wings mclaren have?? by then they'll have 350 points advantage in WCC....that's a lotta points for us to catch up

what i call BIG REGULATION change is come 2026.....that is BIG

those flippy floppy wings make a big difference. it allows you to offset the fundamental balance issues this generation of cars have.

it's certainly as big or bigger than the flexi floor in 2022

[FerrariF60]

those flippy floppy wings make a big difference. it allows you to offset the fundamental balance issues this generation of cars have.

it's certainly as big or bigger than the flexi floor in 2022

yeah, we'll see how this shenanigans of flippy/floppy wings will affect them come spain
hopefully we'll come out on top of this

[nani_s23]

explain,

here's your chance to make a really good post.

this is a 99% new car. and a big regulation change coming in 7 races.

You are comparing an era where there’s lot of differences Tyres/Engine/Regs vs current.

I am talking about Ferrari performance in Australia. Kindly note, Ferrari was fighting for WCC title in 2024 till the last race. There was a momentum to carry that into 2025 as well, which McLaren is doing it & Ferrari didn’t.

Now we say SF-25 is a new car & it takes time to understand the car. I agree to that. But when you reach to the understanding of your car either lead will be huge to chase down or you give up saying that current car has limitations & can’t be further developed.

Kindly note that 2025 car design & development was considered last year & ferrari knew 2025 is the last year of the regulations. Either they felt this is the right approach which would bring good lap time (according to Australia GP rumours, they increased the ride height which mean SF-25 setup window is limited similar to SF-24) which is not visible yet.

Lewis Hamilton who is a one of the greats on Wet track, struggled to balance the car in each & every corner.

[jgonzalesm6]

so the point of this post is Ferrari is slower than Sauber?

I don't understand.

Or is this just a low quality post that I need to ignore?

If I have to explain it to you then I am completely at a loss for words.

Do what you will with the information I provided at your discretion.

[Greig]

If I have to explain it to you then I am completely at a loss for words.

Do what you will with the information I provided at your discretion.

Might want to revist your choice of signature text.

[jgonzalesm6]

Might want to revist your choice of signature text.

I'll take that under advisement.....thank-you.

[Nick Singer]

Ferrari should have bent backwards and agreed to Neweys conditions regardless of their pride
The guys a genius and I can bet my bottom dollar that Alonso will be champion come 2026 at 44 years of age

Was it money? I thought Newey didn't want to go abroad.

[Nick Singer]

Let's be a little sensible sure the current stat's are shocking and yes shameful.This will change ferrari are better than this, the question is want went wrong and changed from super competitive to Disaster between Q3 where it started to falter and qualification.If ferrari find the answers and quickly that will also explain race day horrors.

Had we had 'offs' in the rain - like 'Wunderkind' Piastri - we'd be last with zero points.

Remember, last year we narrowly missed out on the Constructors' Championship!

[Nick Singer]

What a bunch of panty-wetters!

One WET race, the first of the season. Yeah, we were poor but for Heaven's sake!

[Cavallino]

What a bunch of panty-wetters!

One WET race, the first of the season. Yeah, we were poor but for Heaven's sake!

and as Leclerc noted, the wet has been a weakness of the Ferrari car DNA for quite some time.

but nah, i'm wrong, Jgonzalez is right, our true pace is worse than Sauber.

[Cavallino]

You are comparing an era where there’s lot of differences Tyres/Engine/Regs vs current.

I am talking about Ferrari performance in Australia. Kindly note, Ferrari was fighting for WCC title in 2024 till the last race. There was a momentum to carry that into 2025 as well, which McLaren is doing it & Ferrari didn’t.

Now we say SF-25 is a new car & it takes time to understand the car. I agree to that. But when you reach to the understanding of your car either lead will be huge to chase down or you give up saying that current car has limitations & can’t be further developed.

Kindly note that 2025 car design & development was considered last year & ferrari knew 2025 is the last year of the regulations. Either they felt this is the right approach which would bring good lap time (according to Australia GP rumours, they increased the ride height which mean SF-25 setup window is limited similar to SF-24) which is not visible yet.

Lewis Hamilton who is a one of the greats on Wet track, struggled to balance the car in each & every corner.

actually an above average post

you need a good car in the wet, as Leclerc has noted, the wet has been a weakness of Ferrari for some time. as LH experienced

[FerrariF60]

actually an above average post

you need a good car in the wet, as Leclerc has noted, the wet has been a weakness of Ferrari for some time. as LH experienced

prolly cause we can't get sufficient heat into the tires

[PURE PASSION]

EC was SLOWER in all the last 4 corners in ⚫️Quali compared to ��FP2!��
Ferrari's overnight changes (probably raised the car to limit plank wear) killed its downforce and balance:
-Lost 8km/h and almost 1g in T11
-Had to lift more in T12
-Lost 2km/h and 0.4g in T13
Another weird thing happened in qualifying (noted by Gabor Weber ): Ferrari switched repeatedly between low and high power modes in qualifying, something I've never seen before (and which has no logical explanation)��
Ferrari's performance in the season opener left us with more questions than answers...
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[Cavallino]

prolly cause we can't get sufficient heat into the tires

maybe, but it was also bad in 2023

[Cavallino]

EC was SLOWER in all the last 4 corners in ⚫️Quali compared to ��FP2!��
Ferrari's overnight changes (probably raised the car to limit plank wear) killed its downforce and balance:
-Lost 8km/h and almost 1g in T11
-Had to lift more in T12
-Lost 2km/h and 0.4g in T13
Another weird thing happened in qualifying (noted by Gabor Weber ): Ferrari switched repeatedly between low and high power modes in qualifying, something I've never seen before (and which has no logical explanation)��
Ferrari's performance in the season opener left us with more questions than answers...
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8km/h in T11 definitely smells like a ride height change.

less floor downforce, less speed carried into quick left right of 9 and 10

Albert Park was known as being bumpy before the resurface.

unfortunately, China has been known as bumpy in the past too.

we'll see