2025 Australian Grand Prix - Race

[FerrariF60]

In my view, McLarens have build a great car this season, a car that is fast and stable, and so they will do well in all conditions.
They will probably have the upper hand in the first few race, and as Max showed last season, it is so important to capitalize on the early advantage in case your rivals catch up with you mid season through.

The championship will depend on how fast Ferrari and Red Bull can catch up.
Max was able to do maximum damage limitation (in part thanks to Piastri misadventure), but unfortunately for us Ferrari, we took quite a big hit.

Hopefully we can quickly get up to speed, otherwise I can see the team may decide earlier to focus on the new regulations next year instead.

I don’t have a slightest doubt in my mind that red bull will not catch McLaren, Ferrari on the other hand….im not willing to bet nothing nor am I overly optimistic….same o,d story since 2009….we’ll concentrate on next year

[FerrariF60]

I don't see RedBull catching up UNLESS they swap out Lawson for Yuki. Nonetheless, it's one man carrying the team on his back. It's 2024 all over again.

I think he’s taking about the pace of red bulls car…..not constructors championship…there red bull is a ONE man show
As far as drivers championship, don’t ever count Max out…..hes a ruthless driver, hes gonna do everything in his power to win another championship in a sub car compared to McLaren

[FerrariF60]

The way Mclaren can keep their tyres in the optimal window for the whole race regardless of track condition or degradation
is unprecedented and extremely suspicious.

Kind of like red bull was in 2023 and beginning of 2024 until they were caught cheating with asymmetrical braking issues or whatever they were doing

[Greig]

Agreed.

Look, it didn't happen with a 2x WDC title holder.

Another great post....

Michael was 2x WDC when he joined Ferrari.

Carry on though.

[FerrariF60]

Another great post....

Michael was 2x WDC when he joined Ferrari.

Carry on though.

Yeah but took Ferrari team (pasta and wine drinkers) 5 years to give him a good enough car to fight for the championship

But yeah, keep on flapping yer gums

[FerrariF60]

Ferrari should have bent backwards and agreed to Neweys conditions regardless of their pride
The guys a genius and I can bet my bottom dollar that Alonso will be champion come 2026 at 44 years of age

[jgonzalesm6]

Another great post....

Michael was 2x WDC when he joined Ferrari.

Carry on though.

I was talking about Alonso genius!!

[Greig]

I was talking about Alonso genius!!

Ah so you forgot about Michael? Or hoped nobody would call you out for the post you made?

[Greig]

Yeah but took Ferrari team (pasta and wine drinkers) 5 years to give him a good enough car to fight for the championship

But yeah, keep on flapping yer gums

He lost out on the title in the last race in 97 and 98, 5 years you say? flapping gums you say?

Ferrari won the WCC in 1999, 5 years you say? flapping gums you say?

Learn some history.

[jgonzalesm6]

Ah so you forgot about Michael? Or hoped nobody would call you out for the post you made?

No, I didn't forget about Michael and the "Dream Team" that came from Benetton.

I was talking about after Kimi.

Again, do keep up.

[Greig]

No, I didn't forget about Michael and the "Dream Team" that came from Benetton.

I was talking about after Kimi.

Again, do keep up.

Why would you not include Michael in your little list? Because it did not suit your warped point?

[jgonzalesm6]

Why would you not include Michael in your little list? Because it did not suit your warped point?

Warped point?? It's factual genius.

Let me tell you what was WARPED and I saw it yesterday from this team! It was humiliating as well.

1) Both Ferrari drivers got beaten by Lance Stroll. Of all people to get beaten by, Lance Stroll!!
2) Hulkenberg single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
3) Albon single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
4) Antonelli, a rookie, single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
5) Ferrari is currently P7 in the constructors title.
6) Kick Sauber is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P6...with 1 driver.
7) Aston Martin is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P5...with 1 driver.
8) Williams is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P4.....with 1 driver.

[Greig]

Warped point?? It's factual genius.

Let me tell you what was WARPED and I saw it yesterday from this team! It was humiliating as well.

1) Both Ferrari drivers got beaten by Lance Stroll. Of all people to get beaten by, Lance Stroll!!
2) Hulkenberg single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
3) Albon single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
4) Antonelli, a rookie, single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
5) Ferrari is currently P7 in the constructors title.
6) Kick Sauber is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P6...with 1 driver.
7) Aston Martin is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P5...with 1 driver.
8) Williams is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P4.....with 1 driver.

Yeah warped. Your point is signing WDC drivers is insanity right?

[paolo lalli]

Let's be a little sensible sure the current stat's are shocking and yes shameful.This will change ferrari are better than this, the question is want went wrong and changed from super competitive to Disaster between Q3 where it started to falter and qualification.If ferrari find the answers and quickly that will also explain race day horrors.

[Cavallino]

2007 Race 1 in Albert Park

Kimi Raikkonen won it by a lot.

Pulled out 15 seconds in the first stint alone. The kimi-Ferrari pairing was metronomic.

The rest of the season doesn't go quite so easily...

moral of the story, this first race in Albert Park is always weird.

[FerrariF60]

2007 Race 1 in Albert Park

Kimi Raikkonen won it by a lot.

Pulled out 15 seconds in the first stint alone. The kimi-Ferrari pairing was metronomic.

The rest of the season doesn't go quite so easily...

moral of the story, this first race in Albert Park is always weird.

Yes I do agree with you, but there’s no denying that McLaren have a fast car
It even has Horner worried


But yeah, we’ll see how our car will perform in the next 4 races or so and we’ll draw a conclusion as to where we stack against the competition then

[nani_s23]

Agreed.

Look, it didn't happen with a 2x WDC title holder.
It didn't happen with a 4x WDC title holder.
It's not going to happen with a 7x WDC title holder.

What's the definition of insanity?

I was about to post the same.

They’ve got very talented Alonso in, Vettel-RB became 4 time WDC
They’ve got Vettel in, Lewis-Mercs became 6 time WDC.
They’ve got Leclerc in, Max-RB became 4 time WDC
They’ve now got Lewis in, Norris will become 1 time WDC & next Mercs era will start.

It’s not issue with the drivers, Ferrari unable to build championship winning car. It’s an open fact.

Ferrari with much wealth not able lure top engineers & create a championship winning car all these years. Even for McLaren they had title drought, Look at McLaren-Zak Brawn came in couple of years ago marshalled his resources at the right place for the future & now he’s able to reap the benefits. That’s called a plan, vision, faith etc.

[nani_s23]

2007 Race 1 in Albert Park

Kimi Raikkonen won it by a lot.

Pulled out 15 seconds in the first stint alone. The kimi-Ferrari pairing was metronomic.

The rest of the season doesn't go quite so easily...

moral of the story, this first race in Albert Park is always weird.

There’s a lot difference now & then. Please don’t compare.

[nani_s23]

Yeah warped. Your point is signing WDC drivers is insanity right?

Ferrari getting trolled by kick Sauber … every tifosi feeling the pain.

[paolo lalli]

Reports from Italy are saying ferrari had to make ride height adjustments which involves the plank of the SF 25 prior to Q3 and qualification, or risk being disqualified at the end of the Race this took the engineers by surprise and were clearly not ready this probably explains the sudden Drop off to no man's land.

[ntukza]

Yeah. Charles was P5 and while Lewis was stuck behind Albon. Then Charles spun and Lewis got ahead. Then Charles and Piastri overtook him at the end. Quite ordinary performance from him and nothing like the Lewis of Mercedes era.

At the start Lewis started great, it charles blocked him and put him back.

When Charles over took it was due to the cars in front.
Piastri tried a move that Lewis could have blocked but would have crashed them out.
It seems he was unlucky, nothing to do with bad driving.

Who cares? We finished 9th and 10th! We have far bigger problems than CL vs LH.

[ntukza]

No need to be over pessimistic. We dont know yet the real potential of this car. From the top we are the one that changed the most so there is the most room to improve...

As I said in a other thread, when you take a few steps back, you invariably give yourself more room to improve. This is no consolation at all.

[ntukza]

as i said earlier, i'd rather be quick at conventional tracks, instead of the one of tracks like this one where we were competitive last year.

Not to mention the abnormal weather conditions.

I will say that there is definitely a gap in qualifying still that needs to be closed quickly.

I'd rather be quick everywhere like Red Bull, Merc in their dominant years, and now McLaren.

[ntukza]

You are probably just paid to water this down, you are doing it for some time 😁

🤣🤣🤣

[ntukza]

The strategy was to hope the rain was not as bad and we could stay out on slicks and maybe steal the win, sure it looks bad in hindsight but it was probably worth a try since we were nowhere anyway.

The key phrase for me is "steal the win" because it highlights the real problem. We lack the pace to win on merit. Yeah I would have been happy if this strategy worked out and we won, but I would be much happier having the fastest car and lose due to bad luck with the weather, than having a donkey and win by chance.

[ntukza]

Neither setup nor strategy worked this weekend. More mistakes than I'm used to with Charles. I really hope the next race is better otherwise this year is going to be a series of tough lessons.

Not to mention the frustrations already between drivers and race engineers on the radio.

[ntukza]

Reports from Italy are saying ferrari had to make ride height adjustments which involves the plank of the SF 25 prior to Q3 and qualification, or risk being disqualified at the end of the Race this took the engineers by surprise and were clearly not ready this probably explains the sudden Drop off to no man's land.

Took the engineers by surprise? Do they not know the rules?

[ss-89]

Reports from Italy are saying ferrari had to make ride height adjustments which involves the plank of the SF 25 prior to Q3 and qualification, or risk being disqualified at the end of the Race this took the engineers by surprise and were clearly not ready this probably explains the sudden Drop off to no man's land.

Was that the Vanzini tweet? He's below tier 0 on reliability.

[GoodtimesF1]

What is with all the "heavy rain setup" copes? As if that is an excuse for the bad performance. All teams knew about the rain and had their setups based on that. Everybody was running higher downforce. Our team was just bad. Did they not see the 2 Mclaren sliding on the track? Norris understood at that moment that he had to come in. Why did the geniusses at our team think it was a good idea to stay out? We had nothing to lose by following Norris into the pits.

[aroutis]

Warped point?? It's factual genius.

Let me tell you what was WARPED and I saw it yesterday from this team! It was humiliating as well.

1) Both Ferrari drivers got beaten by Lance Stroll. Of all people to get beaten by, Lance Stroll!!
2) Hulkenberg single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
3) Albon single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
4) Antonelli, a rookie, single handedly beat both Ferrari drivers in seasonal points.
5) Ferrari is currently P7 in the constructors title.
6) Kick Sauber is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P6...with 1 driver.
7) Aston Martin is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P5...with 1 driver.
8) Williams is beating Ferrari in the constructors title and is currently P4.....with 1 driver.

So Ferrari had one (1) bad race.
And so what?

There are 23 races to go. The question here is not about the bad race they had, it's about how they will recover.