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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Ferrari are an utter embarrassment, at the moment, in the WCC and WDC standings.

    Suzuka looks to be the "true pace" at Ferrari unless the updates help.
    We’ve seen 2020/2021… it’s not bad compared to those years. Atleast Ferrari got pole in SQ & win in sprint race.

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    I'm used to Ferrari's antics, but to get both cars disqualified for different reasons in the same race is quite amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    I truly appreciate the post from @Alonsomaniac. Passion comes with high & lows.

    Yes it’s sad to see such result. People are forgetting one thing, Ferrari won the sprint race over McLaren/RB & Merc.
    Leclerc was the fastest car even with FW damage in the First stint. Shame that communication issues are still going from the pit wall, as they are not listening to their drivers.

    SF-25 does have the pace, we’ve seen glimpses of it. It’s just Ferrari team need time to understand the car & unlock the performance. Hopefully they turn up at Suzuka with good results. At the moment that’s what we can expect.
    Being a Ferrari fan means just living by the day. You never know what comes tomorrow. Last season we were feeling down too. But then Charles gave us Monaco and the HOME RACE and we were overwhelmed by joy.
    Today we are down and out.
    But it's Ferrari. As other teambosses always say: "Never count Ferrari out".
    And that's how it is .
    Il Predestinato and Lewis will make us cheer again.
    And a championship will come. (although I won't cheer before the last car has finished and the results are official because you never know...)

    Forza Ferrari!
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    Quote Originally Posted by F2008 View Post
    I'm used to Ferrari's antics, but to get both cars disqualified for different reasons in the same race is quite amazing.
    Hadn't thought about that yet, but it could very well be a new record. At least it's a 1-2, that's for sure. Wow.

    Makes it sound a little less dramatic.........
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    I am shocked that Vasseur has not yet apologized to his drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonsomaniac View Post
    Being a Ferrari fan means just living by the day. You never know what comes tomorrow. Last season we were feeling down too. But then Charles gave us Monaco and the HOME RACE and we were overwhelmed by joy.
    Today we are down and out.
    But it's Ferrari. As other teambosses always say: "Never count Ferrari out".
    And that's how it is .
    Il Predestinato and Lewis will make us cheer again.
    And a championship will come. (although I won't cheer before the last car has finished and the results are official because you never know...)

    Forza Ferrari!
    Ferrari used to stand for the greatest winning team in F1, not for perennial runner ups who celebrate like it's a miracle when they win a race, not for a joke team that makes serious mistakes every race. Winning races is doing their job, they can celebrate when they win championships again.

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    Niki Lauda, back in the day, in the movie Rush.

    RUSH - It's A Ferrari!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQVY0RbDbGw



    Seriously, When he first visited Maranello, before signing his contact, Niki Lauda said in jest:
    "With all the resources at their disposition, and their experience, it's wondering why Ferrari doesn't win all the races".
    That remark is still valid today.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Niki Lauda, back in the day, in the movie Rush.

    RUSH - It's A Ferrari!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQVY0RbDbGw



    Seriously, When he first visited Maranello, before signing his contact, Niki Lauda said in jest:
    "With all the resources at their disposition, and their experience, it's wondering why Ferrari doesn't win all the races".
    That remark is still valid today.
    Budget caps and limited testing are hurting us I think. I also believe the "formula" is to restrictive.
    I know why these rules are there but I just don't feel like they work as intended.

    Edit for clarification: I understand these rules are set for all teams. Just pointing out that have the biggest budget is no longer a big factor.
    Last edited by GoodtimesF1; 23rd March 2025 at 18:02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Listen up dummy, when I wrote that Charles was the fastest guy on track, with damage.
    Oh so we can call each other names now?
    Have a lil respect homeley, I could be your dad

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Hamilton: "So this is Ferrari?"

    Leclerc: ".......yeah"

    Why do I get the feeling Binotto, Sainz, and Toto have that "Mona Lisa" grin on their faces?
    Lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Seriously, When he first visited Maranello, before signing his contact, Niki Lauda said in jest:
    "With all the resources at their disposition, and their experience, it's wondering why Ferrari doesn't win all the races".
    That remark is still valid today.
    Errrr no, F1 is much more competitive now.
    Forza Ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Errrr no, Ferrari is much more un-competitive now.
    fify
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Team standings and Driver standings for the moment. Humiliating for Ferrari.

    https://x.com/F1/status/1903838650221097221/photo/1

    https://x.com/F1/status/1903821285626400854/photo/1
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    fify
    again more lies, Ferrari have been much much worse than today.
    Forza Ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Team standings and Driver standings for the moment. Humiliating for Ferrari.

    https://x.com/F1/status/1903838650221097221/photo/1

    https://x.com/F1/status/1903821285626400854/photo/1
    It’s embarrassing at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    again more lies, Ferrari have been much much worse than today.
    Ferrari have managed to not only make the cars slower, but also illegal in the course of 24 hours............not bad!
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    again more lies, Ferrari have been much much worse than today.
    Also, isn't this Ferrari's 1st double DQ in Ferrari's history of F1?
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonsomaniac View Post
    Being a Ferrari fan means just living by the day. You never know what comes tomorrow. Last season we were feeling down too. But then Charles gave us Monaco and the HOME RACE and we were overwhelmed by joy.
    Today we are down and out.
    But it's Ferrari. As other teambosses always say: "Never count Ferrari out".
    And that's how it is .
    Il Predestinato and Lewis will make us cheer again.
    And a championship will come. (although I won't cheer before the last car has finished and the results are official because you never know...)

    Forza Ferrari!
    Another great post, tifoso

    Thanks for that.

    Forza Ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Also, isn't this Ferrari's 1st double DQ in Ferrari's history of F1?
    I can't think of another instance. In Long Beach 1982, Gilles finished third but was disqualified due to an illegal rear wing. The other Ferrari had the same rear wing but spun off in the early phase of the race and therefore wasn't officially classified as DSQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Ferrari have managed to not only make the cars slower, but also illegal in the course of 24 hours............not bad!
    Next year will be our year. That’s the Ferrari Fan mindset.

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    The 21 years between Scheckter and Schumacher will be surpassed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F2008 View Post
    I can't think of another instance. In Long Beach 1982, Gilles finished third but was disqualified due to an illegal rear wing. The other Ferrari had the same rear wing but spun off in the early phase of the race and therefore wasn't officially classified as DSQ.
    Double DQ in Malaysia '99 (bargeboards), however Ferrari appealed and one week later Irvine and Schumi got their 1-2 back.

    Remember that very well as I did hurt my ankle during the celebration resulting in missing 2 matches of my football-team.

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    After Australia race ferrari had a meeting with lewis race engineer Adani to smooth things out regarding communication protocols this has obviously not happened.Lewis must have a smart and desisive race engineer that thinks like him .Peter Donnington was that man .Lewis has already lost faith in Adani does not bode well moving foward.Ferrari need to step in ASAP

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    I didn't realise that today is the first time in the history of Scuderia Ferrari has ever had two cars DQ'd from the same race!

    I wouldn't want to be the TP in charge when that happens!

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    Both Ferrari's were disqualified in Sepang 1999 but the team managed to appeal and the decision was reversed. It's fresh in my memory. I was a young man working at a small TV outlet in Henley-On-Thames and I sold a Panasonic DVD player to Ross Brawn a couple of weeks after Sepang

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    Am I the only one who thinks that, apart from the DSQ's, we had a pretty positive weekend? Pole position and a win for our new driver in only his second race weekend with the team. We showed our car can be good in race trim. Lewis looked pretty comfortable in the Sprint and Charles looked mighty during the main race, even with a broken wing. He was faster than Russell. There's not a lot in it between the top 4 teams. Piastri and Lando wasn't disappearing into the distance 20 or 30 secs ahead like Lewis/Max in previous years. The gap was never that much between the top 4.
    We need to get qualifying sorted and things will improve massively. Mclaren is a bit quicker but I don't think it's a margin too big to be caught.
    It's early days in the season. The dramatics and doom & gloom is a bit premature.. bordering immature

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeseman View Post
    Both Ferrari's were disqualified in Sepang 1999 but the team managed to appeal and the decision was reversed. It's fresh in my memory. I was a young man working at a small TV outlet in Henley-On-Thames and I sold a Panasonic DVD player to Ross Brawn a couple of weeks after Sepang
    Oh I would've watched that race too, but it's lost from my memory.


    That's a fantastic anecdote! Isn't he a Marlow boy?

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    Theory time...

    I couldn't stop thinking about what happened during these two weeks and something occurred to me. What if the the first rumour about the raising the car in Australia due to plank wear was true? We were lightning fast on Friday in Australia before we decided to rise the car up. Then we were similarly fast in the sprint quali and the sprint this weekend. We know we made changes to the setup between sprint and the race qualifying. What if the changes were to make the plank last the whole race, because it's much longer than the sprint? So in the sprint we could run the car lower, meaning we were faster, while still have enough plank left. We then raised the car for the race (and therfore quali as well due to parc ferme) and became slower because of that, to survive the full race distance. But we tried to not lose as much as in Australia, so we misjudged and and didn't jack it up high enough.

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    Ok so sometimes life sucks, simple as that.
    To me it is clear as day, Team tried different things on each driver, for lewis they ran the car lower ergo the plank wear and DQ, on Charles they went a bit higher setup , however they went one stop and that made the car JUST a bit lighter and it got DQ again.
    However , we can either sob in the corner like toddlers or we can get something useful from this and move on.
    Apparently running lower the car apart from damaging the car , also was not optimal (refering to the running pace). As for Charles, that was a major screwup. They could have pitted him even before Max got to him, he would 've been behind lewis with fresh mediums (I believe there was a set) and with the number of laps left he could get by and at least hold position, and at the very least not get DQ.

    However... we're in dire need of upgrades and probably some sort of redesign. Folks at the factory are sure to be losing sleep over this.
    "If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeseman View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks that, apart from the DSQ's, we had a pretty positive weekend? Pole position and a win for our new driver in only his second race weekend with the team. We showed our car can be good in race trim. Lewis looked pretty comfortable in the Sprint and Charles looked mighty during the main race, even with a broken wing. He was faster than Russell. There's not a lot in it between the top 4 teams. Piastri and Lando wasn't disappearing into the distance 20 or 30 secs ahead like Lewis/Max in previous years. The gap was never that much between the top 4.
    We need to get qualifying sorted and things will improve massively. Mclaren is a bit quicker but I don't think it's a margin too big to be caught.
    It's early days in the season. The dramatics and doom & gloom is a bit premature.. bordering immature
    Yeah I don't think we are all bad, we need to improve for sure but we are not miles away from the front. A double header to start the season gave us no real time to change much. We will see some improvement for Suzuka I believe.
    Forza Ferrari

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