2025 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Practice & Qualifying Thread

[racingbradley]

Charles had a push lap scuppered by a williams & Aston. Who knows where he might have been as he reckoned he has found the limit of the car!!! Shucks.

[racingbradley]

Hmm I might have "read" that wrongly. It's more likely he meant there was nothing left in the car...thus the limit.

[patrese86]

That was Charles.

No that was Charles when a Williams was coming out of the pits, Hamilton was further back as I was watching his onboard and he had to bail out of his last lap in between turn 5 and 6 as there was two cars off the racing line and then a Williams just casually in the way

[nani_s23]

Problem is, that if Charles says it is the limit, then it really is the limit. Hope they find a tenth or two before qualy.

FP3 isn’t representative at all, but the next races coming where the Temps are high that McLaren isn’t touchable. Crazy laps & they are keeping their tyres alive.

No way we gonna catch them in WCC.

[Alonsomaniac]

FP3 isn’t representative at all, but the next races coming where the Temps are high that McLaren isn’t touchable. Crazy laps & they are keeping their tyres alive.

No way we gonna catch them in WCC.

Catch them in WCC, no way indeed. But first we have to get back to the podium. That's why I talked about the few tenths. I think at the moment that is the max we can hope for.

[nani_s23]

Mika in 2023 on Mclaren:

The team will fight for the title in 2024 & in 2025 no one can catch them.

[FerrariF60]

The car is a joke, look at the onboards and there’s consistently no grip into turn 1.

Lewis is a joke….the GOAT my REAR END….hes way past his due date

[FerrariF60]

Charles: "This I feel like is the limit of the car. I cannot go faster in corners, it‘s just sliding from all four tyres.."

PATHETIC!!!!:(:(

Pathetic indeed….yet another year down the drain
As usual start thinking about “next year”. We will NEVER catch those mclarens

[tifosi1993]

So when has Lewis adapted to a car? When Jenson beat him? When Russell beat him?

Some strange things you see.

Yeah, he won 7 titles but lacks adaptability.

I don't know why you're bringing Russell or Button into discussion, tbh. Lewis is struggling to adapt because the car he's driving his quite hard to drive. That's all.

[tifosi1993]

Mika in 2023 on Mclaren:

The team will fight for the title in 2024 & in 2025 no one can catch them.

Don't worry! When we go to Spain, McLaren will lose all their advantage and we'll overwhelm them, at least that's what the expert here is saying.

[FerrariF60]

Yeah, he won 7 titles but lacks adaptability.

I don't know why you're bringing Russell or Button into discussion, tbh. Lewis is struggling to adapt because the car he's driving his quite hard to drive. That's all.

It’s always easier to drive a rocket and win races and championships than to drive a dog of a car…..ATM Charles is just overdriving the car, maybe the GOAT can’t do that

[FerrariF60]

Don't worry! When we go to Spain, McLaren will lose all their advantage and we'll overwhelm them, at least that's what the expert here is saying.

I wouldn’t be so sure a it that….ill believe it when I see it….but Walmart Newey here thinks that come Spain, the Mac,are s will have their wings clipped and we’re gonna surpass them in performance….again, I’ll believe it when I see it….or more li,e when pigs fly

[patrese86]

Clearly we can’t figure out how to optimise the car, we needed to hit the ground running with this car and we took a risk with the new suspension layout. It could take till next season to fully understand it and we just don’t have development time.

The only good thing is Charles is showing his ability still by out performing the car.

We need to rip things up at Maranello. Next season we are going to have a second rate engine in comparison to Mercedes power and aero won’t count for much if that power advantage is as large as rumoured.

[nani_s23]

Clearly we can’t figure out how to optimise the car, we needed to hit the ground running with this car and we took a risk with the new suspension layout. It could take till next season to fully understand it and we just don’t have development time.

The only good thing is Charles is showing his ability still by out performing the car.

We need to rip things up at Maranello. Next season we are going to have a second rate engine in comparison to Mercedes power and aero won’t count for much if that power advantage is as large as rumoured.

What’s use? Nobody recognises, bias towards British drivers in media & forums.

[Greig]

Yeah, he won 7 titles but lacks adaptability.

I don't know why you're bringing Russell or Button into discussion, tbh. Lewis is struggling to adapt because the car he's driving his quite hard to drive. That's all.

He won 7 titles in rocket ships, when the car was not a rocket ship he got beat.....

Hence why Russell beat him and Jenson.

[nani_s23]

Don't worry! When we go to Spain, McLaren will lose all their advantage and we'll overwhelm them, at least that's what the expert here is saying.

[PURE PASSION]

Unfortunately the team has lost its racing DNA.
The leaders don't really care about winning as long as the money flows and the popularity in social media is high.
The best example of this is that they gave everything to bring HAM and back out on Neweys demands.
No person with common F1 logic would prefer to bring a driver ,as good as he might be , over possible the best designer F1 has ever see. The only explanation I can give is 1st that Neweys demands where too high for Ferraris ego and political power and 2nd HAM would bring way more money and reputation regardless the results.
Unfortunately that kind of attitude is an insult to us fans.
But in the end of the day I blame myself to don't have to courage to stop watching F1 completely.

[nani_s23]

Unfortunately the team has lost its racing DNA.
The leaders don't really care about winning as long as the money flows and the popularity in social media is high.
The best example of this is that they gave everything to bring HAM and back out on Neweys demands.
No person with common F1 logic would prefer to bring a driver ,as good as he might be , over possible the best designer F1 has ever see. The only explanation I can give is 1st that Neweys demands where too high for Ferraris ego and political power and 2nd HAM would bring way more money and reputation regardless the results.
Unfortunately that kind of attitude is an insult to us fans.
But in the end of the day I blame myself to don't have to courage to stop watching F1 completely.

Yup.. we already have a capable driver who can challenge for the title or bring title given a strong car. So the focus should always be get the best engineers out there & give them enough freedom/space to build a strong car. That’s it.

Ferrari aren’t able achieve this since 17yrs that’s ridiculous.

[jgonzalesm6]

Unfortunately the team has lost its racing DNA.
The leaders don't really care about winning as long as the money flows and the popularity in social media is high.
The best example of this is that they gave everything to bring HAM and back out on Neweys demands.
No person with common F1 logic would prefer to bring a driver ,as good as he might be , over possible the best designer F1 has ever see. The only explanation I can give is 1st that Neweys demands where too high for Ferraris ego and political power and 2nd HAM would bring way more money and reputation regardless the results.
Unfortunately that kind of attitude is an insult to us fans.
But in the end of the day I blame myself to don't have to courage to stop watching F1 completely.

Well said.

[jgonzalesm6]

Yeah, he won 7 titles but lacks adaptability.

I don't know why you're bringing Russell or Button into discussion, tbh. Lewis is struggling to adapt because the car he's driving his quite hard to drive. That's all.

Leclerc to Hamilton: "Hold my beer!!"

[patrese86]

Unfortunately the team has lost its racing DNA.
The leaders don't really care about winning as long as the money flows and the popularity in social media is high.
The best example of this is that they gave everything to bring HAM and back out on Neweys demands.
No person with common F1 logic would prefer to bring a driver ,as good as he might be , over possible the best designer F1 has ever see. The only explanation I can give is 1st that Neweys demands where too high for Ferraris ego and political power and 2nd HAM would bring way more money and reputation regardless the results.
Unfortunately that kind of attitude is an insult to us fans.
But in the end of the day I blame myself to don't have to courage to stop watching F1 completely.

McLaren don’t have Newey though. They won the WCC last season and will likely do so again this season. I’m sure Newey will help Aston Martin, which isn’t hard to do right now as they look atrocious. The last time they was competitive was when they copied Red Bull’s design.

Right now Alpine look to have a good car in terms of aero and they don’t have Newey. Not everything stops with Adrian Newey.

I agree with you about the business of Ferrari though. It just exists to make money rather than be successful.

I just think too much emphasis is put on Newey, it’s an easy excuse, you’d think he was the chief aero dynamicist of every championship winning car.

[PURE PASSION]

McLaren don’t have Newey though. They won the WCC last season and will likely do so again this season. I’m sure Newey will help Aston Martin, which isn’t hard to do right now as they look atrocious. The last time they was competitive was when they copied Red Bull’s design.

Right now Alpine look to have a good car in terms of aero and they don’t have Newey. Not everything stops with Adrian Newey.

I agree with you about the business of Ferrari though. It just exists to make money rather than be successful.

Of course onto everything is about Newey ,it's justi he was 1 of the top names who was available. And he can " lure " even more capable engineers. He would restore the faith and reliability for the technical department.
Now for McL . I'm very cautious about their growth. It was to quick and too large. From bottom to top 5 to dominance in 2-3 years on stable rules Like they are the only ones to actually found the magic wand!!! To me Bahrain ownership have played their part on this.

[jgonzalesm6]

I just think too much emphasis is put on Newey, it’s an easy excuse, you’d think he was the chief aero dynamicist of every championship winning car.

Of course onto everything is about Newey ,it's justi he was 1 of the top names who was available. And he can " lure " even more capable engineers. He would restore the faith and reliability for the technical department.
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Newey will bring all 3 F1 dept's at AMRF1 in-line with one another--> aero, mechanical, and structural.

[Red is Best]

It's looking like 7th and 8th at best.

[Always44]

I'm sure Lewis will come good, it's just a matter of time getting used to the Ferrari.

[patrese86]

This is horrific viewing

[Kyss4k]

Holy hell this car is a disaster. What am I watching? This is bad even for us.

[nani_s23]

Holy hell this car is a disaster. What am I watching? This is bad even for us.

No grip at all even in these conditions for Ferrari, shows how bad the car is with low DF config

[patrese86]

That’s not a disaster on used for us

[Aziz]

No grip at all even in these conditions for Ferrari, shows how bad the car is with low DF config

This car is a complete and utter failure, for God's sake how can they do the same idiotic things for ages.

This team needs a complete restart, Enzo or Gianni would fire everyone in this idiotic team