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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Quitter!
    I am not Ferrari, try to keep up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Newey would have made these internal(culture) changes so all F1 depts work harmoniously to get the end product.
    Another made up guess based on nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I am not Ferrari, try to keep up.
    Nawwwww.....really. Say's alot about you as a person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Another made up guess based on nothing.
    Well, he's doing that at AMRF1 currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Nawwwww.....really. Say's alot about you as a person.



    Well, he's doing that at AMRF1 currently.
    You think one person is Ferrari? weird dude....says a lot.

    And you can tell us why Ferrari is not working in harmony I suppose? No didn't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    You think one person is Ferrari? weird dude....says a lot.

    And you can tell us why Ferrari is not working in harmony I suppose? No didn't think so.
    It hasn't been working for the past 17 years. Do keep up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    It hasn't been working for the past 17 years. Do keep up.
    You are claiming F1 depts dont work in harmony. That is not the same. Try and back up your claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    You are claiming F1 depts dont work in harmony. That is not the same. Try and back up your claims.
    Once AMRF1 starts beating Ferrari in seasonal points, you'll understand if you haven't already.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Once AMRF1 starts beating Ferrari in seasonal points, you'll understand if you haven't already.
    Like when you were frothing at the mouth over Dan Fallows not so long ago?

    Again that does not tell us that Ferrari is not working in harmony, can you back up your claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Like when you were frothing at the mouth over Dan Fallows not so long ago?

    Again that does not tell us that Ferrari is not working in harmony, can you back up your claim?
    LOL......"frothing at the mouth over Dan Fallows".........funny. Dan Fallows is not Adrian Newey. Stay on the issue.

    Oh sure, everything is fine at Ferrari F1 culture. No need to change anything.......please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    LOL......"frothing at the mouth over Dan Fallows".........funny. Dan Fallows is not Adrian Newey. Stay on the issue.

    Oh sure, everything is fine at Ferrari F1 culture. No need to change anything.......please.
    You were telling us how pathetic Ferrari were we never signed him.....

    So you can't back up your claims, no surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    You were telling us how pathetic Ferrari were we never signed him.....

    So you can't back up your claims, no surprise.
    Business as usual at the Scuderia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Business as usual at the Scuderia.
    Lucky escape we never, didn't stop you frothing over him when they had 2 good races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Lucky escape we never, didn't stop you frothing over him when they had 2 good races.
    Were you not frothing at the mouth that Ferrari WERE GOING TO SIGN NEWEY?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Were you not frothing at the mouth that Ferrari WERE GOING TO SIGN NEWEY?
    We could have but said no, pay attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    We could have but said no, pay attention.
    So then business as usual at the Scuderia......17 years going on 18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    So then business as usual at the Scuderia......17 years going on 18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Forza Italia
    aaaaaaaannnnd expecting a winning result year-after-year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    aaaaaaaannnnd expecting a winning result year-after-year.
    Support the Brits if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Support the Brits if you want.

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    I don’t agree with moving Ferrari to England. It would kill the identity.

    At the end of the day there are many great engineers from Italy, not just engineers but also motorsport personnel, even a very young Kimi Antonelli or a very old in comparison Valentino Rossi.

    But the point being is they all have this Italian fire in them.

    Now Ferrari could hypothetically move to the UK, attracting more British based talent and that’s fine, it’s not like we haven’t had British talent before (Brawn, Smedley etc) but we can’t lose the identity of the Tifosi, or have Monza as a home race when we are based the other side of Europe.

    Andrea Stella is Italian, Gualtieri etc. it’s not like there is a shortage of Italian talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrese86 View Post
    I don’t agree with moving Ferrari to England. It would kill the identity.

    At the end of the day there are many great engineers from Italy, not just engineers but also motorsport personnel, even a very young Kimi Antonelli or a very old in comparison Valentino Rossi.

    But the point being is they all have this Italian fire in them.

    Now Ferrari could hypothetically move to the UK, attracting more British based talent and that’s fine, it’s not like we haven’t had British talent before (Brawn, Smedley etc) but we can’t lose the identity of the Tifosi, or have Monza as a home race when we are based the other side of Europe.

    Andrea Stella is Italian, Gualtieri etc. it’s not like there is a shortage of Italian talent.
    WEC......yes, Italians or in Italy is great.
    MotoGP.....yes, being in Italy is great.
    F1.......most of the great talent is in the UK and gets circulated amongst the teams in the UK. It is what it is if you want to win....otherwise your just racing and not winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrese86 View Post
    I don’t agree with moving Ferrari to England. It would kill the identity.

    At the end of the day there are many great engineers from Italy, not just engineers but also motorsport personnel, even a very young Kimi Antonelli or a very old in comparison Valentino Rossi.

    But the point being is they all have this Italian fire in them.

    Now Ferrari could hypothetically move to the UK, attracting more British based talent and that’s fine, it’s not like we haven’t had British talent before (Brawn, Smedley etc) but we can’t lose the identity of the Tifosi, or have Monza as a home race when we are based the other side of Europe.

    Andrea Stella is Italian, Gualtieri etc. it’s not like there is a shortage of Italian talent.
    They need clear improvements, if not it will be hard to argue against the England thesis. It’s all up to the team to prove the critics wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dune View Post
    They need clear improvements, if not it will be hard to argue against the England thesis. It’s all up to the team to prove the critics wrong.
    Ferrari are Italian, they are not a franchise. Would be like moving Barcelona or Real Madrid to England.

    Stupid of me to even entertain such comments.

    What made you support an Italian team when there is plenty of British ones to choose from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Ferrari are Italian, they are not a franchise. Would be like moving Barcelona or Real Madrid to England.

    Stupid of me to even entertain such comments.

    What made you support an Italian team when there is plenty of British ones to choose from?
    Bad analogy re: Soccer teams....like all the talent in Soccer is in England.....give me a break.

    What makes you want the same old lack luster performances year end and year out from an F1 team for the past 17, going on 18, years. Ferrari's F1 management should get the best of F1 talent....but they choose not to. Oh, they certainly pay big bucks for the WDC drivers as of the last 17 years to do what?......lose?


    In the last 15 years, since 2010, all England F1 teams(RedBull, Mercedes and now Mclaren) will surpass Ferrari in WDC titles combined which Ferrari has been in F1 for over 75 years. The talent gets moved around and will remain in England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Bad analogy re: Soccer teams....like all the talent in Soccer is in England.....give me a break.

    What makes you want the same old lack luster performances year end and year out from an F1 team for the past 17, going on 18, years. Ferrari's F1 management should get the best of F1 talent....but they choose not to. Oh, they certainly pay big bucks for the WDC drivers as of the last 17 years to do what?......lose?


    In the last 15 years, since 2010, all England F1 teams(RedBull, Mercedes and now Mclaren) will surpass Ferrari in WDC titles combined which Ferrari has been in F1 for over 75 years. The talent gets moved around and will remain in England.
    No it's a fair analogy, moving a sports team from its historic home is rarely something to do in Europe, I know the USA just frachise a lot of sports but we like to have history and tradition in our sports.

    Ferrari are not leaving Italy so you can bump your gums all you like it will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    No it's a fair analogy, moving a sports team from its historic home is rarely something to do in Europe, I know the USA just frachise a lot of sports but we like to have history and tradition in our sports.

    Ferrari are not leaving Italy so you can bump your gums all you like it will never happen.
    Ahhh, yes...."history and tradition" takes precedence over winning.....how unfortunate.

    "The writing is on the wall." You already know the ending, at least I do, before you even read the book.

    I love Ferrari....but in no way shape or form am I delusional.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Ahhh, yes...."history and tradition" takes precedence over winning.....how unfortunate.

    "The writing is on the wall." You already know the ending, at least I do, before you even read the book.

    I love Ferrari....but in no way shape or form am I delusional.
    What English team has more titles?

    I will wait.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    What English team has more titles?

    I will wait.....
    I believe I gave you 3 of them(combined WDC titles) under a certain time frame in an earlier post no?
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Ferrari are Italian, they are not a franchise. Would be like moving Barcelona or Real Madrid to England.

    Stupid of me to even entertain such comments.

    What made you support an Italian team when there is plenty of British ones to choose from?
    I don’t get your response. Even under Enzo they had a department in England. So I don’t get your answer in general, as it already happened in the past. What does a franchise have to do with this? There could be scenario where certain departments could switch to England. Whatever it takes to win. It’s all up to the team to prove that it is possible in Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I believe I gave you 3 of them(combined WDC titles) under a certain time frame in an earlier post no?
    What English team has won more titles?

    Can you tell us?
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