2025 Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix - Practice and Qualifying

[Greig]

I don’t get your response. Even under Enzo they had a department in England. So I don’t get your answer in general, as it already happened in the past. What does a franchise have to do with this? There could be scenario where certain departments could switch to England. Whatever it takes to win. It’s all up to the team to prove that it is possible in Italy.

They have tried it twice, does not work.

Why did you support an Italian team?

[Cavallino]

I believe I gave you 3 of them(combined WDC titles) under a certain time frame in an earlier post no?

answer the original question, you seem to fail at doing this time and time again

and if you want to really get technical, you have to understand that a lot of these records get broken in a meaningless way, for example, by adding more races to a season, or awarding points down to 10th, with 25 to first place. ( this might be complicated for you to understand, so ignore this second part of my post if need be )

[Dune]

They have tried it twice, does not work.

Why did you support an Italian team?

I support Ferrari because I am a Tifosi. Just because it did not work, it does not mean it won’t work in the future. If Enzo was fine with such a model, it could be on the table in the future. It’s all about winning. I love Ferrari and try to think of possible solutions to get back to the top. Whatever it takes. If your priority is not about winning, that’s ok.

[Greig]

I support Ferrari because I am a Tifosi. Just because it did not work, it does not mean it won’t work in the future. If Enzo was fine with such a model, it could be on the table in the future. It’s all about winning. I love Ferrari and try to think of possible solutions to get back to the top. Whatever it takes. If your priority is not about winning, that’s ok.

Splitting your F1 team will not work.

So if it's all about winning would you accept Ferrari becoming a customer team for example if it made them win?

Maybe move to England lose the Tifosi and win, sounds great right.

[jgonzalesm6]

Splitting your F1 team will not work.

So if it's all about winning would you accept Ferrari becoming a customer team for example if it made them win?

Maybe move to England lose the Tifosi and win, sounds great right.

Look, if tradition and history to include the tifosi are what make you sleep at night then sleep to your hearts content.

Obviously, some of us here want Ferrari to win regardless of what you consider to be "traditional" or "historic."

The tifosi are fickle just like the Italian media.

Audi(Sauber) is opening a facility in England in motorsport valley. Not that you care.

CadillacF1 is also opening a facility in England. Not that care either.

But you can see that England is the central hub of F1 talent and it constantly gets moved to various teams in England. So statistically, England F1 teams have a better chance at winning a WDC or WCC or both titles. In the meantime, you stay cuddled in your bed with traditions, historics and the tifosi year end and year out.

[Cavallino]

Look, if tradition and history to include the tifosi are what make you sleep at night then sleep to your hearts content.

Obviously, some of us here want Ferrari to win regardless of what you consider to be "traditional" or "historic."

The tifosi are fickle just like the Italian media.

Audi(Sauber) is opening a facility in England in motorsport valley. Not that you care.

CadillacF1 is also opening a facility in England. Not that care either.

But you can see that England is the central hub of F1 talent and it constantly gets moved to various teams in England. So statistically, England F1 teams have a better chance at winning a WDC or WCC or both titles. In the meantime, you stay cuddled in your bed with traditions, historics and the tifosi year end and year out.

fickle?

toxic is more like it.

just look at this weekend, they wanted Vasseur's head when he predicted p4 and p6 after qualifying, when everyone knows we have issues in qualy.

90% of this forum wants a complete overhaul of the team, to lead to further destabilization.

[Greig]

Look, if tradition and history to include the tifosi are what make you sleep at night then sleep to your hearts content.

Obviously, some of us here want Ferrari to win regardless of what you consider to be "traditional" or "historic."

The tifosi are fickle just like the Italian media.

Audi(Sauber) is opening a facility in England in motorsport valley. Not that you care.

CadillacF1 is also opening a facility in England. Not that care either.

But you can see that England is the central hub of F1 talent and it constantly gets moved to various teams in England. So statistically, England F1 teams have a better chance at winning a WDC or WCC or both titles. In the meantime, you stay cuddled in your bed with traditions, historics and the tifosi year end and year out.

What English team has more titles than Ferrari?

[jgonzalesm6]

What English team has more titles than Ferrari?

None of them.

But then again, these English teams haven't been in F1 for over 75 years like Ferrari. IF they had been in F1 for over 75 years, they would be beating Ferrari in WDC and WCC titles.

[Greig]

None of them.

But then again, these English teams haven't been in F1 for over 75 years like Ferrari. IF they had been in F1 for over 75 years, they would be beating Ferrari in WDC and WCC titles.

So being an Italian based team has not stopped Ferrari being the most successful team in the sport.

Good stuff.

[Dune]

None of them.

But then again, these English teams haven't been in F1 for over 75 years like Ferrari. IF they had been in F1 for over 75 years, they would be beating Ferrari in WDC and WCC titles.

Let it go. The goal is to be the best in the future. No title since 2007 says more than any word. This has to change as soon as possible, otherwise there will be changes in the future. Just win, then no one talks about countries.

[Dune]

Splitting your F1 team will not work.

So if it's all about winning would you accept Ferrari becoming a customer team for example if it made them win?

Maybe move to England lose the Tifosi and win, sounds great right.

RB/Honda splitting tells another story. In modern era, this should not be a problem. But just win, and no one will have these thoughts. A partial move to England would not loose the Tifosi. It’s all about winning. The Tifosi are tired of participating trophies. Ferrari has to be the benchmark.

[Greig]

RB/Honda splitting tells another story. In modern era, this should not be a problem. But just win, and no one will have these thoughts. A partial move to England would not loose the Tifosi. It’s all about winning. The Tifosi are tired of participating trophies. Ferrari has to be the benchmark.

So you went to Italy and asked them all did you?

RB and Honda are not the same company, so that makes no sense to compare.

[jgonzalesm6]

So being an Italian based team has not stopped Ferrari being the most successful team in the sport.

Good stuff.

These English teams have a better stat at winning since they started in F1 when compared to Ferrari....and they will only get better at winning over the long term like RedBull, Mercedes and McLaren.

[Greig]

These English teams have a better stat at winning since they started in F1 when compared to Ferrari....and they will only get better at winning over the long term like RedBull, Mercedes and McLaren.

You making things up again?

[jgonzalesm6]

You making things up again?

LOL....no I am not.

Since their inception as an F1 team, RedBull and Mercedes have a better to win ratio in the WDC and WCC titles than Ferrari's inception in F1.....and will only get better and more with RedBull and Mercedes due to their location.

It's not rocket science.

[Greig]

LOL....no I am not.

Since their inception as an F1 team, RedBull and Mercedes have a better to win ratio in the WDC and WCC titles than Ferrari's inception in F1.....and will only get better and more with RedBull and Mercedes due to their location.

It's not rocket science.

But you said McLaren as well? How about Williams?

[jgonzalesm6]

But you said McLaren as well? How about Williams?

Mclaren is coming along but RedBull and Mercedes have won more than Mclaren.

[Greig]

Mclaren is coming along but RedBull and Mercedes have won more than Mclaren.

[Cavallino]

LOL....no I am not.

Since their inception as an F1 team, RedBull and Mercedes have a better to win ratio in the WDC and WCC titles than Ferrari's inception in F1.....and will only get better and more with RedBull and Mercedes due to their location.

It's not rocket science.

win ratio, in an era of more races and unprecedented reliability, engine and rule freezes

[Cavallino]

Mclaren is coming along but RedBull and Mercedes have won more than Mclaren.

[Cheeseman]

Mclaren is coming along but RedBull and Mercedes have won more than Mclaren.

How much lap time will Ferrari gain by being based in England?

[aroutis]

Yes they may stay in Italy and by the way iam italian and they will win nothing I know how the italian system works.

I cab attest to that.

I work at one of if not the biggest italian transaction processor , my GOD they have issues big time.

[jgonzalesm6]

How much lap time will Ferrari gain by being based in England?

It's not just the lap time gain IF Ferrari moves to England, it's the talent pool that's in England that Ferrari can get the best of.

[aroutis]

It's not just the lap time gain IF Ferrari moves to England, it's the talent pool that's in England that Ferrari can get the best of.

I am not sure bout that one. You need to be able to attract them. That is not just having a building in UK or what not. It's also brand name, job security etc.

[jgonzalesm6]

I am not sure bout that one. You need to be able to attract them. That is not just having a building in UK or what not. It's also brand name, job security etc.

"If you build it, they will come."

The talent pool with families will eventually move to and work for Ferrari in a UK based facility.

[JChan]

Sorry for being naive, I'm from Philippines, what is life being in Italy vs England except for pasta meals? why do engineers afraid or not willing to work in Italy (the best F1 team)? low salary because of Ferrari's name? prestige vs money?

[jgonzalesm6]

Sorry for being naive, I'm from Philippines, what is life being in Italy vs England except for pasta meals? why do engineers afraid or not willing to work in Italy (the best F1 team)? low salary because of Ferrari's name? prestige vs money?

EVERYONE speaks Italian.....for starters. So you can imagine coming from England let's say, and your family, and trying to speak to the locals.

Geographically, Italy has earthquakes. So there's that if you're not used to earthquakes.

Economically, Italy's currency is......well.....let's just say it's not the best compared to the pound or quid.....and I'm being conservative when I say this.

So getting yourself and your family to move to Italy is quite the concern.

Don't get me wrong, Italy is a beautiful place to visit....but to live there is a different story.

[Greig]

EVERYONE speaks Italian.....for starters. So you can imagine coming from England let's say, and your family, and trying to speak to the locals.

Geographically, Italy has earthquakes. So there's that if you're not used to earthquakes.

Economically, Italy's currency is......well.....let's just say it's not the best compared to the pound or quid.....and I'm being conservative when I say this.

So getting yourself and your family to move to Italy is quite the concern.

Don't get me wrong, Italy is a beautiful place to visit....but to live there is a different story.

Yes nobody can speak English in Italy, nope nobody.

Earthquakes hahaha you are deluded.

[FerrariF60]

Yes nobody can speak English in Italy, nope nobody.

Earthquakes hahaha you are deluded.

like your reply, totally on point.

[jgonzalesm6]

Yes nobody can speak English in Italy, nope nobody.

Earthquakes hahaha you are deluded.

Google "How many earthquakes happen per year in Italy"........again, Italy experiences alot of earthquakes. Deluded?......I think not.