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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    Charles will be angry tomorrow, he will get that win no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Yup.. even I expected Ferrari to go for 2 runs as they were doing the same in FP’s & Q1
    Both us and McLaren were on a similar run plan. But Ferrari opted for 1 lap instead of 2 on the final run.
    Don't know what will happen tomorrow. 2 mandatory stop means all 3 sets of tyres will be used.

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    Ferrari: Charles Leclerc's reaction just after winning the first line in Monaco.

    - "We can always do better. The tour was a bit of a shame, because you take the measures for the next round, the decisive tour, and I found a lot of traffic and I couldn't do another one. But it's like that. I'm frustrated".

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    "We know that we do not have the car to win, but this weekend, the car works well. We started well on weekends, but tomorrow, it will be difficult to take first place."

    - "I don't know what's special for me and for this circuit. I like urban circuits in general,
    I like to go to qualifying and take the greatest risks to get the best possible result. Most of the time, this approach is paying, other times, it is not. "

    - "But I am proud of our result. On paper, this weekend should have been one of the most difficult of the season for us. In the end,
    It's not that bad. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Both us and McLaren were on a similar run plan. But Ferrari opted for 1 lap instead of 2 on the final run.
    Don't know what will happen tomorrow. 2 mandatory stop means all 3 sets of tyres will be used.
    Dont think its mandatory to use all 3 different type of tires (like the general rule that you you have to use at leasr 2 differnet type of compounds) . Just the number of pit stop to minimum 2 is mandatory. So you can go M-H-M (for example)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    I do believe we had to raise the car in Australia, as stated by Charle, but I don't think we had to raise the floor everywhere.

    I also speculated that, there was something fundamentally wrong with the car, but I'm not an expert nor I ever pretended to be one, so I didn't know exactly what was wrong with it. Now, the media is speculating that the problem is the rear suspension. But that's just speculation, cause Ferrari didn't admit it, not I was expecting them to be.

    BTW, everyone, including Ferrari, had to raise the floor here. Also, cars behave differently under different aero configuration. Ferrari may be struggling in low-speed corners with low/medium DF setup, but that may not be the case when the car is running with maximum downforce.

    Monaco and Mexico are only two tracks where maximum DF is required. No where else it would work.
    A. That's not what you said. You took a condescending attitude to Greig and I in the face of overwhelming evidence that you were indeed wrong.

    B. We're not saying Ferrari just raised the floor here. Ferrari has to raise the floor everywhere. What we are seeing here, is more of what the picture would look like if Ferrari can fix the suspension issue and get this car to the ride height range it was designed with. I was only concerned if Ferrari would have to raise even more here, I didn't get my hopes up too far going into this weekend.

    C. Just admit you were wrong and uninformed and make the "Cavallino is right post".
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Dont think its mandatory to use all 3 different type of tires (like the general rule that you you have to use at leasr 2 differnet type of compounds) . Just the number of pit stop to minimum 2 is mandatory. So you can go M-H-M (for example)
    Start with softs to have a shot at the start?

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    insane lap Charles btw, he's been doing it under the radar since last season
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dune View Post
    Start with softs to have a shot at the start?
    could also start on the mediums, hope you don't lose a place, then do an undercut with the softs with a monster out lap, undercut is powerful here

    but on the dirty side it would be quite risky
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    was he saying he wanted to do two laps on those softs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    A. That's not what you said. You took a condescending attitude to Greig and I in the face of overwhelming evidence that you were indeed wrong.

    B. We're not saying Ferrari just raised the floor here. Ferrari has to raise the floor everywhere. What we are seeing here, is more of what the picture would look like if Ferrari can fix the suspension issue and get this car to the ride height range it was designed with. I was only concerned if Ferrari would have to raise even more here, I didn't get my hopes up too far going into this weekend.

    C. Just admit you were wrong and uninformed and make the "Cavallino is right post".
    It has to do with the floor and the suspension. But as long as Ferrari does not have to make a comprise to set up the car, it’s fine. That’s what happens in Monaco. You don’t have to prepare for slower parts and a long straight, you go full down force and that’s it. The moment both parts come into play, Ferrari has a problem. That’s not good work in the offseason, unfortunately. Now we do hope for a shakeup in Barcelona and a Silverstone Update. Not the position you want to be in after what, 8 races?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    McLaren sandbagging all along then
    i don't know about that, Leclerc found a half second or so between the two runs, i was surprised he was able to dig out that much, but also not because I know what the pole times were last year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    could also start on the mediums, hope you don't lose a place, then do an undercut with the softs with a monster out lap, undercut is powerful here

    but on the dirty side it would be quite risky
    With two stops there will be different possibilities. It’s also good to have Hamilton up there, so there will options to try something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dune View Post
    It has to do with the floor and the suspension. But as long as Ferrari does not have to make a comprise to set up the car, it’s fine. That’s what happens in Monaco. You don’t have to prepare for slower parts and a long straight, you go full down force and that’s it. The moment both parts come into play, Ferrari has a problem. That’s not good work in the offseason, unfortunately. Now we do hope for a shakeup in Barcelona and a Silverstone Update. Not the position you want to be in after what, 8 races?
    i agree with almost all of that. The person who I was commenting on does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dune View Post
    With two stops there will be different possibilities. It’s also good to have Hamilton up there, so there will options to try something.
    all true

    there's more opportunity than Leclerc thinks, especially with the master choke artist on pole
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dune View Post
    With two stops there will be different possibilities. It’s also good to have Hamilton up there, so there will options to try something.
    i'm a big fan of splitting strats

    no penalty for Ham?
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    Ves believes that Ham WILL BE penalized for impending, Vesseur believes he WILL NOT !!!!
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    Stroll just gor penalized for impeding. I'm afraid it does not look good for Lewis then.
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    Hamilton 3 places back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonsomaniac View Post
    Hamilton 3 places back.
    Not great
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    Ham 3 place grid penalty … similar to 2023 with Leclerc. It believe it’s the same race engineer?

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    Mclaren & Leclerc : M-H-M/S
    Max & Lewis : H-H-M/S

    I believe this is the strategy … both Max & Lewis can the be dark horse in this race

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    My bad… there is Alonso & RB in between, he will not make it easier for Lewis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonsomaniac View Post
    Hamilton 3 places back.
    For literally nothing... This way McLaren has all the tactical advantage they need on us.

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    Lewis penalty is BS, helping Max again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    For literally nothing... This way McLaren has all the tactical advantage they need on us.
    I know, but there is not much we can say, because the impeding happened. It had no consequences for both drivers in qualy, but a 3 place penalty is exactly according to the rules.
    And yes, it compromises our tactics because Charles has to race alone now.
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    �� Ferrari: Analysis of the SF-25's performance during qualifying for the Monaco Grand Prix thanks to @Fred__18.

    - Ferrari entered qualifying after Leclerc's three first-place finishes in free practice, and knew the margin of competitiveness was clearly there, but the challenge was certainly not the easiest.

    - If there were still any doubts about the SF-25 running normally with completely untuned suspension, they were swept away in Monaco, with excellent overall performance, including in terms of load, and a rear axle that provided truly powerful traction from the start. Ferrari was the protagonist in Monaco, thanks also to the talent of Leclerc, who always manages to work magic on his home circuit, as on the final lap. Hamilton's fourth place, however, testifies to the car's good form on the narrow streets of the Principality.

    - Norris had a better start and a better line at Saint Devote, and on the climb this time, their performances were even. Leclerc, however, was very aggressive under braking at Massenet and took the lead. In the slowest section, until then McLaren's strong point, the Monegasque driver probably gave everything he had and more, as he even managed to match Norris's performance, who had seemed unbeatable until then in the twisty section. Even Leclerc gained on the very short descent between Mirabeau and Loewes.

    - The cars remained virtually even, even at Le Portier and in the first part of the tunnel (where Ferrari always gained traction), only to see Ferrari gain a few hundredths of a second before the Le Port chicane thanks to the reduced aerodynamic drag that allowed Leclerc to break away at 290 km/h (180 mph) compared to Norris's 286.

    - In the third sector, it seemed as if the technical limitations no longer applied, especially to Leclerc, but also to Norris. The Englishman surprisingly won, taking advantage of the McLaren's strong charge and relying on the rear to drive, precisely in a corner where Leclerc had dominated all weekend. And it was there, in the last two corners (Rascasse-Noghes), that everything came down to it: Leclerc was unable to be precise and, above all, struggled to get on the gas early, perhaps with the rear tires less in the optimal window than Norris.

    (formulapassion.it/f1/f1-analisi-…)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    For literally nothing... This way McLaren has all the tactical advantage they need on us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alonsomaniac View Post
    I know, but there is not much we can say, because the impeding happened. It had no consequences for both drivers in qualy, but a 3 place penalty is exactly according to the rules.
    And yes, it compromises our tactics because Charles has to race alone now.
    The mandatory 2 stop is going to be chaotic for EVERYONE plus a high possibility of a SC or 2.

    I honestly don't know how this race is going to pan out..........to me it seems like literally anyone could win this race.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    The mandatory 2 stop is going to be chaotic for EVERYONE plus a high possibility of a SC or 2.

    I honestly don't know how this race is going to pan out..........to me it seems like literally anyone could win this race.
    Even stroll ? :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    The mandatory 2 stop is going to be chaotic for EVERYONE plus a high possibility of a SC or 2.

    I honestly don't know how this race is going to pan out..........to me it seems like literally anyone could win this race.
    Not sure it will be chaotic, a SC will just see everyone pit and remain in position.
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