SpanishGP 2020: Practices and Qualifying

**nani_s23** · 15th August 2020, 14:53

Oh my god full ferrari 1.7sec down on Mercs

**PURE PASSION** · 15th August 2020, 14:56

It's not just that we are 1,7 behind Merc.we are 1s behind MAX!!!!!! And 7th so really bad !!!!!

**Noquarter** · 15th August 2020, 14:56

Leclerc on old tires in first run

**Warp** · 15th August 2020, 14:57

Originally Posted by Noquarter

Leclerc on old tires in first run

Source ?

**Silent Bob** · 15th August 2020, 14:58

Originally Posted by KimiBot

---BREAKING NEWS---
Hamilton is not going to get new contract, Mercs will hire Seb for next year, and after that they will quit. Hamilton made big mistakes with this BLM thing and also Mercs want to show that it is not the driver, it is the car.

Cool. Ham and wolf to RP then. Vettel retires or goes to Merc.

**Schumiklub** · 15th August 2020, 15:01

Crap, only P9 for Charles. Hoping for good tire management tomorrow!

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**tifosi1993** · 15th August 2020, 15:03

Charles P9. that was our maximum.

But I'm confident of Charles's race pace, it's better than the likes of Albon and Mclarens, maybe TP as well.

**killer** · 15th August 2020, 15:03

Originally Posted by Schumiklub

Crap, only P9 for Charles. Hoping for good tire management tomorrow!

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Did he get a second run in?

**WS6TransAm01** · 15th August 2020, 15:04

Ferrari doing their best to drop down the order over the year. Like clockwork.

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

The Merc PU unleashed. That party mode ban can't come soon enough.

Oh yeah, that way Ferrari will only be down 1.2 seconds to Pole instead of 1.7. World of difference!

**Schumiklub** · 15th August 2020, 15:04

Originally Posted by killer

Did he get a second run in?

Yeah, but still 1.5 behind Mercedes. And it was really close. Norris only 0.003 in front of Charles in P8.

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**PURE PASSION** · 15th August 2020, 15:05

Oohhh god !!!! How is this year gonna pass???!!!!!
Can't see every single race to be middlefield !!!!!
Its SO HARD !!!!!!

**tifosi1993** · 15th August 2020, 15:06

Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01

Ferrari doing their best to drop down the order over the year. Like clockwork.

Oh yeah, that way Ferrari will only be down 1.2 seconds to Pole instead of 1.7. World of difference!

Certainly not to you, and it's not that surprising either.

**chinmay** · 15th August 2020, 15:07

Originally Posted by Silent Bob

Cool. Ham and wolf to RP then. Vettel retires or goes to Merc.

You do realize he is joking, right? If they signed Bottas, why wouldn't they sign Hamilton? Why would Wolff want to leave Mercedes? And why would Mercedes want to leave? They are the best team and is winning titles, they are proving that they are the king of motorsports and of engine and chassis. Winner never leaves unless your name is Rosberg.

**killer** · 15th August 2020, 15:08

Originally Posted by Schumiklub

Yeah, but still 1.5 behind Mercedes. And it was really close. Norris only 0.003 in front of Charles in P8.

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OK. I thought I saw him pit in front of Lewis. He was also complaining about “some weird behavior” of the car as he came out for the second run.

**Warp** · 15th August 2020, 15:08

Leclerc: Some weird behavior with the engine..

**patrese86** · 15th August 2020, 15:11

At this point i can only hope we went with the worst possible quali setup in order to have good race pace

**458 Italia** · 15th August 2020, 15:12

Oh dear...

**tifosi1993** · 15th August 2020, 15:12

Last year Vettel did 21.284 in the sector 1, this year Leclerc 21.778. And unlike the aero, the engine power is important in every sector. So Ferrari is giving away at least 4-5 tenths every where. Which does explain the gap and our current position.

They can improve the aero with new parts, but no amount of new aero parts will make up for that power deficit.

**patrese86** · 15th August 2020, 15:17

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

Last year Vettel did 21.284 in the sector 1, this year Leclerc 21.771. And unlike the aero, the engine power is important in every sector. So Ferrari is giving away at least 4-5 tenths every where. Which does explain the gap and our current position.

They can improve the aero with new parts, but no amount of new aero parts will make up for that power deficit.

Do you have the numbers for last year sector's?

We have certainly gone backwards, we all know that but the fact Mercedes have taken another step forwards really hurts. I'd rather measure our performance relative to last year than what we see this year with our opponents. Because before we beat them we have to find at least parity with last year first.

**tifosi1993** · 15th August 2020, 15:22

Originally Posted by patrese86

Do you have the numbers for last year sector's?

We have certainly gone backwards, we all know that but the fact Mercedes have taken another step forwards really hurts. I'd rather measure our performance relative to last year than what we see this year with our opponents. Because before we beat them we have to find at least parity with last year first.

SF90:
Sector 1: 21.284 (Vettel)
Sector 2: 28.357 (Vettel)
Sector 3: 26.513 (Leclerc)

SF1000 (Leclerc):
Sector 1: 21.778
Sector 2: 28.366
Sector 3: 26.676

**tifosi1993** · 15th August 2020, 15:27

Qualifying (Top 10):

Hamilton: 21.393--27.959--26.232 (1:15.584)

Bottas: 21.303--27.910--26.372 (1:15.643)

Verstappen: 21.565--28.295--26.414 (1:16.292)

Perez: 21.387--28.334--26.712 (1:16.482)

Stroll: 21.398--28.341--26.703 (1:16.589)

Albon: 21.675--28.485--26.822 (1:17.059)

Sainz: 21.442--28.505--28.856 (1:17.044)

Norris: 21.582--28.578--26.802 (1:17.084)

Leclerc: 21.778--28.366--26.676 (1:17.087)

Gasly: 21.557--28.500--26.743 (1:17.136)

**Warp** · 15th August 2020, 15:28

I think Leclerc didn't complete his 2nd FL. He reported some engine issues..

**patrese86** · 15th August 2020, 15:29

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

SF90:
Sector 1: 21.284 (Vettel)
Sector 2: 28.357 (Vettel)
Sector 3: 26.513 (Leclerc)

SF1000 (Leclerc):
Sector 1: 21.778
Sector 2: 28.366
Sector 3: 26.676

Thank you! Mercedes weren't lying when they said we were half a second faster down the straights huh lol

Honestly though i don't know whether i feel better or worse looking at those times...the real kicker here is no matter what we try we aren't going to get that kind of performance back over the next 18 months and that really hurts

**patrese86** · 15th August 2020, 15:32

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

Qualifying (Top 10):

Hamilton: 21.393--27.959--26.232 (1:15.584)

Bottas: 21.303--27.910--26.372 (1:15.643)

Verstappen: 21.565--28.295--26.414 (1:16.292)

Perez: 21.387--28.334--26.712 (1:16.482)

Stroll: 21.398--28.341--26.703 (1:16.589)

Albon: 21.675--28.485--26.822 (1:17.059)

Sainz: 21.442--28.505--28.856 (1:17.044)

Norris: 21.582--28.578--26.802 (1:17.084)

Leclerc: 21.778--28.366--26.676 (1:17.087)

Gasly: 21.557--28.500--26.743 (1:17.136)

How can we be two tenths slower than the ****ing alpha tauri in sector one! (and the renaults!)

this goes far beyond fuel flow regs

**Warp** · 15th August 2020, 15:38

Originally Posted by patrese86

How can we be two tenths slower than the ****ing alpha tauri in sector one! (and the renaults!)

this goes far beyond fuel flow regs

No party mode

**stefa** · 15th August 2020, 15:45

Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01

Ferrari doing their best to drop down the order over the year. Like clockwork.

Oh yeah, that way Ferrari will only be down 1.2 seconds to Pole instead of 1.7. World of difference!

Exacrly! I allready feel better

**stefa** · 15th August 2020, 15:46

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Oohhh god !!!! How is this year gonna pass???!!!!!
Can't see every single race to be middlefield !!!!!
Its SO HARD !!!!!!

80's

**killer** · 15th August 2020, 16:23

Originally Posted by patrese86

At this point i can only hope we went with the worst possible quali setup in order to have good race pace

Worth trying from this point forward, IMO. Forget Q and focus on race pace, tyre selection, and strategy. We will be likely missing out on data collection, though.