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    I'd say its a good race for us. Shame Leclerc couldn't finish on the podium, as the red flag benefitted quite a few and Leclerc got the short end of it instead.
    But otherwise his performance today was great.

    Lewis certainly got very lucky again. He seem to always get some helping circumstances whenever he finds himself in some deep poo.
    Though to be fair, Sainz did benefitted too, helping him to recover from the few mistakes he did today.

    Glad to see Max winning. Hope he takes the fight to Lewis for the WDC.

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    Ferrari needs to find a way to make the floor to work harder to unload the rear wing. The engine is frozen for the year. Maybe the new floor and rear wing in Portugal is going to help.

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    also a quick mention of Kimi who got some points for Alfa Romeo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    also a quick mention of Kimi who got some points for Alfa Romeo
    Out of Alonso, Vettel and Kimi, who would've thought it would be Kimi who would be scoring his points first

    The old man has still got it.

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    We are still sitting ducks on straights

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Lucky Lewis strikes again, what an incredible lucky career the guy has:

    - Lewis messing up the a corner on race start causing him front end damage;
    - Mercedes messing up a pitstop, 1.8 secs behind RB;
    - Lewis spinning while overtaking back markers and ending up in the gravel, causing a > 30secs. delay

    And because of a red flag he's still able to get to a podum finish, in 2nd even, you can't make it up.
    Just about sums it up! And how come he was able to unlap himself? Great efforts from Charles and Carlos but we would always have been under threat from faster on the straights Merc/Mclaren/RB. Soul-destroying to think that Charles was running P2 for a good few laps before the red flag and lost out mainly due to our lack of that last 10-15hp and Lando on softs being able to pass Charles on the re-start. We were unlucky today, but LH takes the biscuit on that score, as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTRSMAD View Post
    Ferrari needs to find a way to make the floor to work harder to unload the rear wing. The engine is frozen for the year. Maybe the new floor and rear wing in Portugal is going to help.
    We had it here and it dint help much.
    Unfortunately we will never rely on the body for downforce
    ,we will always need more wing then the others.If we have the best engine we have no problem, if not like now we'll we saw what happens in these 2 GPs
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    We had it here and it dint help much.
    Unfortunately we will never rely on the body for downforce
    ,we will always need more wing then the others.If we have the best engine we have no problem, if not like now we'll we saw what happens in these 2 GPs
    The new floor definitely helped. That's why they rushed it afterall.

    I'm struggling to see the bigger picture. We agreed for engine freeze meanwhile we're so much behind compared to Mercedes and Honda.

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    Charles had a radio malfunction during the latter part of race, his engineer could hear him but he couldn't hear his engineer. He didn't know about the rolling start, so that's why he didn't overtake Max and caught off guard by Norris on softs. Really, really unlucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTRSMAD View Post
    Ferrari needs to find a way to make the floor to work harder to unload the rear wing. The engine is frozen for the year. Maybe the new floor and rear wing in Portugal is going to help.
    They fast forwarded the floor to Imola already!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Charles had a radio malfunction during the latter part of race, his engineer could hear him but he couldn't hear his engineer. He didn't know about the rolling start, so that's why he didn't overtake Max and caught off guard by Norris on softs. Really, really unlucky.
    Everything had gone so well up until that point

    This should've been a P2 or P3 for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I honestly do not know if backing in reverse onto the track is a penalty. I have'nt seen it in F1.

    Common sense would be not to back up in reverse onto the track. [shoulder shrug]
    Well I remember Nigel Mansell being black flagged after overshooting his pitcrew and set the car in reverse.

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    The race had a lot happening for sure and felt entertained.

    I think our guys did a pretty fine job, but the car is still lacking straight line speed. In the slow corners it's almost magical and seems to have great traction. Russell will never drive for a top team with moves like that, it was all his fault and his antics after the crash were not something I would like to see. For a moment I thought he was going to go and help Bottas out of the car but noooo. HAM is still the luckiest guy on the planet, even when makes really bad mistakes.

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    Yet again goldenboy's luck is staggering. even when he makes a mistake, the race falls back into his lap. lol
    I thought Leclerc drove well, we seem to be sitting ducks in a straight line though :(
    Bottas and Russell I put at 60/40 to Bottas he moved over a little but Russell should have taken more care and why was he battling with a Williams anyway? useless driver

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    I had the same feeling about engine modes.
    OH become extremely fast, out of nowhere....
    I mean, what the heck.
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    Sigh

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    Disappointed because CL looked amazing during wet part, had 30s in hand and guaranteed 4th...and then the red flag. He lost the most of everyone with it.

    Carlos was really good today, rather racey albeit with few big mistakes. Once he deals with these, I think we might have best driver pairing.

    All in all, pace is what matters and we looked really good. I cant wait for portimao, hopefully we use spoon wing not to lose to much on straights. Amazing achievement by the team!

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    Lewis gets his 99th pole and is still a point up in the WDC. Meanwhile Max getting the lead and winning has millions of F-1 fans back and anxious for the next races. Miami's new track will have fans show up ! And Ferrari is podium bound this season with 20 races to go . Neither Charles nor Carlos want to loose their seat come contract time. I don't know who I would rather have @ Merc ? Bottas or Russell? F-1 is great !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    And why did not Lewis NOT get penalized for backing onto the track after he binned it into the wall I WOULD NEVER UNDERSTAND.....MIA at it best
    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I honestly do not know if backing in reverse onto the track is a penalty. I have'nt seen it in F1.

    Common sense would be not to back up in reverse onto the track. [shoulder shrug]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari312T4 View Post
    Well I remember Nigel Mansell being black flagged after overshooting his pitcrew and set the car in reverse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    so nobody said a word about Ham reversing onto the track?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lesky View Post
    Lewis should have a penalty. You're definitely not allowed to reverse on the track, Hamilton reversed from the gravel onto the track, ideally he should have reversed on gravel then go forward before he reached the circuit. I would say it's a penalty.
    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Crucial thing is that it is LH. It would be a penalty for any other driver, but him, NO!
    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    lol in our dreams. Golden boy will never get a penalty. If anything race control is looking for ways to get him higher up the order.
    Verstappen escapes punishment for reversing on track

    The Monaco Grand Prix stewards have taken no action against Max Verstappen for reversing onto the track in the opening Formula 1 practice session.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...41107/3100840/



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    Well, normally you might think there would be at least an announcement of the FIA having that reversing incident under investigation. But I haven't seen any, have you? It doesn't matter if he should have a penalty or not. Verstappen reversed and it was safe. Fair enough. But it was under investigation. And they gave an explanation of their decision. In Bahrain track limits thing was ridiculous if you take in mind that Yuki got a 5 sec track limits penalty. I don't want to say the FIA is biased towards Hamilton.The inconsistency is not helping. Just let the people know you have seen it. Not investigate other drivers except one.

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    So, not to spend much words... Everything is the same as it was...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    So, not to spend much words... Everything is the same as it was...
    On the Lewis reversing on the track issue......yeah....it appears that way.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    On the Lewis reversing on the track issue......yeah....it appears that way.
    According to Masi - “It's a case by case basis, that you need to review the complete set of circumstances that sit around it,”

    Basically saying, we will never penalize Hamilton. In fact, we will do whatever we can to ensure everything works in his favour. F1’s only goal is to make sure we hand him his 8th easy gifted championship.

    Masi goes on to say he was satisfied with Merc-Ham’s team radio during that incident. I wonder if he and the stewards regularly listen into other team radios when making/deciding penalty calls? What a joke this sport is. I like how there was no mention of him un-lapping himself.

    To those defending Hamilton, think about the absurdity of giving Vettel a penalty halfway through the race for his mechanics not having the car ready 5 minutes before the start of the race. The guys brakes were on fire, give the mechanics a break. That has zero effect on safety of the other drivers...yet Hamilton can back up into oncoming traffic in a narrow race track. Unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    According to Masi - “It's a case by case basis, that you need to review the complete set of circumstances that sit around it,”

    Basically saying, we will never penalize Hamilton. In fact, we will do whatever we can to ensure everything works in his favour. F1’s only goal is to make sure we hand him his 8th easy gifted championship.

    Masi goes on to say he was satisfied with Merc-Ham’s team radio during that incident. I wonder if he and the stewards regularly listen into other team radios when making/deciding penalty calls? What a joke this sport is. I like how there was no mention of him un-lapping himself.

    To those defending Hamilton, think about the absurdity of giving Vettel a penalty halfway through the race for his mechanics not having the car ready 5 minutes before the start of the race. The guys brakes were on fire, give the mechanics a break. That has zero effect on safety of the other drivers...yet Hamilton can back up into oncoming traffic in a narrow race track. Unbelievable.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/e...rsing/6344908/
    Thanks for posting the article. The evidence is all there. I'm not defending Hamilton but what I am defending is the fact that there are no rules penalizing a driver for reversing onto the racetrack regardless if it's FP, Qualifing or Race. Max has done it in the past and did'nt get pnalized for it. The ruling to NOT penalize Lewis regarding this specific case IS NOT driver specific.

    Masi reviewed the radio traffic between Ham and team radio, not to mention there was yellow flags in the area to slow down other drivers and at the time another incident (Botta Russell) happened that slowed down the whole race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    According to Masi - “It's a case by case basis, that you need to review the complete set of circumstances that sit around it,”

    Basically saying, we will never penalize Hamilton. In fact, we will do whatever we can to ensure everything works in his favour. F1’s only goal is to make sure we hand him his 8th easy gifted championship.

    Masi goes on to say he was satisfied with Merc-Ham’s team radio during that incident. I wonder if he and the stewards regularly listen into other team radios when making/deciding penalty calls? What a joke this sport is. I like how there was no mention of him un-lapping himself.

    To those defending Hamilton, think about the absurdity of giving Vettel a penalty halfway through the race for his mechanics not having the car ready 5 minutes before the start of the race. The guys brakes were on fire, give the mechanics a break. That has zero effect on safety of the other drivers...yet Hamilton can back up into oncoming traffic in a narrow race track. Unbelievable.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/e...rsing/6344908/
    You are completely right. But we all know that this F1 is all about LH and double standards

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    Win on the track like Max did week in week out.Thats how you beat hamilton and the system that protects him simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo lalli View Post
    Win on the track like Max did week in week out.Thats how you beat hamilton and the system that protects him simple.
    He should have had 0-1 points maximum, instead he was gifted 18, 19 because he had the chance to post the fastest lap. You can’t beat the system when it’s literally built for him to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    He should have had 0-1 points maximum, instead he was gifted 18, 19 because he had the chance to post the fastest lap. You can’t beat the system when it’s literally built for him to win.
    He for sure wasn't gifted getting to 2nd place and finishing there. He got the car to do a fastest lap when he truly needed the point. I can't believe he doesn't demand a veto power " let Lewis pass contract" . Merc is not %100 on his side. If he was with Ferrari it would be there for him . Russell's hard time coming in 9th was nothing compared to Lewis coming in 2nd. And Russell among the F-1 writers was up for an award ! Even though BOTTAS beat him !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    He for sure wasn't gifted getting to 2nd place and finishing there. He got the car to do a fastest lap when he truly needed the point. I can't believe he doesn't demand a veto power let Lewis pass contract . Merc is not %100 on his side. If he was with Ferrari it would be different .
    Being allowed to start 9th was a gift. Not getting penalized for reversing or for un-lapping himself was a gift. But we see differently on this matter, so I will stop going on about it. I’ve made my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    Being allowed to start 9th was a gift. Not getting penalized for reversing or for un-lapping himself was a gift. But we see differently on this matter, so I will stop going on about it. I’ve made my point.
    Why is he so worthy of all these gifts? His driving abilities has to have something to do with his 2nd. place. The way it looks; Lewis will be needing a ton of gifts the next 20 races with there finally being competition for pole and getting up front from 2nd , 3rd place at the start. The question will be each race; can " The car " continue to be a winner? Putting this race in the past , Charles and Carlos look podium bound for sure. A mix up with Max and Lucky Lewis up front and a careful pass by either Ferrari and maybe even a win or 2 !!!

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