Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H Development thread.

**bondilad** · 8th June 2016, 10:35

http://www.thisisf1.com/2016/06/08/f...e-canadian-gp/

Ferrari to debut shorter nose in Canada.

**phsyklone** · 8th June 2016, 14:01

So let me get this straight. We have a new turbo , new fuel for new engine mapping. New nose. Modified rear suspension. This is almost a B-spec car hey. I'm sure theres more upgrades we are not being told about. I realy wonder if these updates will help us or make us drop further.

**FerrariF60** · 8th June 2016, 14:13

Originally Posted by phsyklone

So let me get this straight. We have a new turbo , new fuel for new engine mapping. New nose. Modified rear suspension. This is almost a B-spec car hey. I'm sure theres more upgrades we are not being told about. I realy wonder if these updates will help us or make us drop further.

i really hope for the former rather than the latter....

Forza FERRARI.....cannot wait to go to Montreal and watch the race LIVE!!!!!.............again

**bondilad** · 8th June 2016, 14:35

Originally Posted by FerrariF60

i really hope for the former rather than the latter....

Forza FERRARI.....cannot wait to go to Montreal and watch the race LIVE!!!!!.............again

Any change in the weather forecast for the weekend?

Hope we get some dry running to analyse all the new upgrades.

**FerrariF60** · 8th June 2016, 14:41

Originally Posted by bondilad

Any change in the weather forecast for the weekend?

Hope we get some dry running to analyse all the new upgrades.

right now they're saying dry and overcast for Friday, WET saturday quali and coudy and/or chances of rain for Sunday

but hopufully will change and have a DRY race....

most importantly let's hope will be DRY for FRIDAY to do a proper test/evaluation of the new parts

**bondilad** · 8th June 2016, 15:01

Originally Posted by FerrariF60

right now they're saying dry and overcast for Friday, WET saturday quali and coudy and/or chances of rain for Sunday

but hopufully will change and have a DRY race....

most importantly let's hope will be DRY for FRIDAY to do a proper test/evaluation of the new parts

Thx. That's what I'm hoping for as well.

**fronaldo** · 8th June 2016, 15:23

Motorsport confirms the modified rear suspension (stiffer, to get better traction) for the #CanadianGp. No new nose - #Ferrari

-Gianlu-

**Tony** · 8th June 2016, 15:49

It will be cold on Sunday, the high is only 16 degrees...

**FerrariF60** · 8th June 2016, 16:03

Originally Posted by Tony

It will be cold on Sunday, the high is only 16 degrees...

and possible rain....i will have to make sure i'll pack a thick sweater and rain suit....:(

**Brembo** · 8th June 2016, 16:42

Originally Posted by FerrariF60

yeah, i TOO heard that ONLY Seb will use the new turbo...i wonder WHY not for kimi also??? did honeywell only had parts to make ONLY ONE??

and as far as using tokens, i thought that we did this under "reliability" concerns....so i'm speachless

I thought the driver with the most points gets to go out with a new change , nose ,turbo ? Kimi got Seb by a point.

**Kristof_F40** · 8th June 2016, 17:26

If it rains and is this cold it will be even harder to get a good look at the updates since conditions aren't representative..
We really can't get a break..

**killer** · 8th June 2016, 23:28

Originally Posted by fronaldo

Motorsport confirms the modified rear suspension (stiffer, to get better traction) for the #CanadianGp. No new nose - #Ferrari

-Gianlu-

Hang on, a stiffer suspension for better traction?

**killer** · 8th June 2016, 23:32

Originally Posted by Kristof_F40

If it rains and is this cold it will be even harder to get a good look at the updates since conditions aren't representative..
We really can't get a break..

So long as they deliver success. We have a lot of updates; the track team needs to react on point if conditions are not ideal.

**stefa** · 9th June 2016, 04:37

Originally Posted by phsyklone

So let me get this straight. We have a new turbo , new fuel for new engine mapping. New nose. Modified rear suspension. This is almost a B-spec car hey. I'm sure theres more upgrades we are not being told about. I realy wonder if these updates will help us or make us drop further.

...or all that is some wild journalist guessing...

**Gianlu27** · 9th June 2016, 10:05

Originally Posted by killer

Hang on, a stiffer suspension for better traction?

If it's too much "soft", you need it stiffer. So, at least it's what I think they did

**hattrick** · 9th June 2016, 10:12

Used power-unit components before CanadianGP. Alonso, Button & Vettel set to get new turbo:

**zike** · 9th June 2016, 11:13

#Gazzetta #Ferrari | Changes on the new rear suspension:
- Changes at the modular system
- Different rocker
- New 3rd element (hydraulic)

**Gianlu27** · 9th June 2016, 13:12

Official: 2 tokens spent

**phsyklone** · 9th June 2016, 14:10

Originally Posted by zike

#Gazzetta #Ferrari | Changes on the new rear suspension:
- Changes at the modular system
- Different rocker
- New 3rd element (hydraulic)

Is that even english ?

**Rishu** · 9th June 2016, 14:57

I can believe we have all those revisions on the car. Maurizio did say we'll get to see a 'completely different' Ferrari in Canada

**Gianlu27** · 9th June 2016, 14:58

Originally Posted by phsyklone

Is that even english ?

Sorry, my english is still not perfect. I will try to improve, I promise :)

**Jax** · 9th June 2016, 16:07

Originally Posted by Gianlu27

Sorry, my english is still not perfect. I will try to improve, I promise :)

Hell yea that's English, it's just technical :)

**erikejw** · 9th June 2016, 17:00

Originally Posted by killer

Hang on, a stiffer suspension for better traction?

Yeah, I noticed that too.
Maybe they need more rear tyre heat???

Can a stiffer rear improve front traction in any kind of way?

**gvera** · 9th June 2016, 17:27

Originally Posted by erikejw

Yeah, I noticed that too.
Maybe they need more rear tyre heat???

Can a stiffer rear improve front traction in any kind of way?

As I undestand it from Italian news, not a stiffer suspension setting (shocks/springs) but more rigid suspension components (or structure as a whole).
Probably this will even allow to use a softer setting.

**Jax** · 9th June 2016, 18:11

Originally Posted by erikejw

Yeah, I noticed that too.
Maybe they need more rear tyre heat???

Can a stiffer rear improve front traction in any kind of way?

Front traction ????? LOL

**Ed Harley** · 9th June 2016, 19:39

Originally Posted by erikejw

...Can a stiffer rear improve front traction in any kind of way?

Stiffer rear suspension, when everything else is kept unchanged, usually increases oversteer. With an understeering car that feels like increased traction as the car now turns better.

**Rob** · 9th June 2016, 19:57

Heres a bit form this weeks Autosport, Scarbs goes over the tech bits of what Ferrari has done....

Suspension

Ferrari has shifted the rear suspension mountings upwards and rearwards on the gearbox. This changes the pullrod's angle such that it is clear of the floor. But this means the wishbones have narrower spacing between the inboard mountings, changing the geometry. This may of had adverse effect on traction and lateral grip.