Malaysian GP 2014 Qualifying thread

[Nero Horse]

I did hope, yep. I know Newey is great and stuff, bet even he had his lows.

He did have lows when he was at Mclaren but not in RB. Ever since he joined RB in 2009 he's come up only with good/great cars.

[rico]

We are losing time in final sector? That's interesting. It's simmilar to the first one, isn't it? Just a straights 2 middle-slow speed corners. And we are doing quite ok (fernando, don't know what happened to Kimi there) in the 1st sector.

Well i guess we lose too much at turn 14 which needs the car to be on rails (like RB)

[Forzi]

Good result, we seem decent in wet. Also if it's dry, our tire deg seemed good while Mercedes struggled. The race is wide open :-)

[Rishu]

They can fix issues no problem in parc ferme :thumb


I don't see why not. It's suspension/steering arm damage.
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Great

[Kyss4k]

He did have lows when he was at Mclaren but not in RB. Ever since he joined RB in 2009 he's come up only with good/great cars.

It's a long time, but who says it could not happen again? He isn't a god and he (and his team) will make a mistake once.

[M.K]

Great job by the team, hope its dryer tomorrow and Kimi improves. Alonso great result given circumstances.

Does anyone know what time does race starts tomorrow after switching to summer time in the UK?
Autosport tends to mess up these things.

[Nero Horse]

It's a long time, but who says it could not happen again? He isn't a god and he (and his team) will make a mistake once.

Yes, you're right, it could happen again and at the start of every season I too hope that perhaps this year he won't design a good car, but unfortunately it hasn't happened yet. It would be best of course, if we could just beat him at his own game. Hopefully now that we have Allison and a working wind tunnel we can out-develop Newey's RB. :thumb

[Alfa159]

P4 in the rain and crybabies will not stop crying.

What's the rain got to do with it???? Every other driver/team is out in the same conditions whether it's wet or dry!

[radosav]

Great job by the team, hope its dryer tomorrow and Kimi improves. Alonso great result given circumstances.

Does anyone know what time does race starts tomorrow after switching to summer time in the UK?
Autosport tends to mess up these things.
Go to f 1.com they have countdown till race, so you can count it

[djmorin27]

just saw the interview with alonso pretty amazing to get p4 with a broken front car thats how u loose the time he did in sec 3 should of had p3 may be p2 use to race rotex and shift karts and have had damaged steering before very unsettling feeling. i think we do want a dry race because the mercs eat there rear tires quicker than we do, and kimi seemed to loose to have a totally wet setup he might be gambling for tomorrow and looser boy is right starting p2 and p4 is the better side going into turn 1

[M.K]

Go to f 1.com they have countdown till race, so you can count it

Cheers! Just checked it, while autosport shows 08:00 as their start, F1.com is set at 09:00.

[Hornet]

Glad Ferrari could fix the damage in time, impressive stuff. At least good enough to complete qualifying.

Bloody rookies. That kid went too deep in the braking zone and couldn't stop in time. What the hell was he doing staying so close under such condition

[Rob]

Cheers! Just checked it, while autosport shows 08:00 as their start, F1.com is set at 09:00.

09.00 hrs race start.

[Nero Horse]

I still can't believe how fast Fernando got back out onto the track after his shunt with Kvyat. After I had seen a replay of that incident I was certain that this would be the end of quali for Fernando but then a couple of minutes later he was back on the track again...just incredible job by our mechanics, brilliant.

[RedPassion]

Yes, you're right, it could happen again and at the start of every season I too hope that perhaps this year he won't design a good car, but unfortunately it hasn't happened yet. It would be best of course, if we could just beat him at his own game. Hopefully now that we have Allison and a working wind tunnel we can out-develop Newey's RB. :thumb
Yes i think we can,the car is much more basic than the Red Bull and the Mercedes and already showing good downforce levels,if we push on developing we can out develope them,the holy grail is resource management,not wasting money like in 2012 when Fry said we brought 18 underbodies(almost 1 per grand prix) and an huge amount of downgrades like last year btw.I think this is the part where Allison is gonna help so much.And i believe we are in dry setting because we aro not using the higher downforce rear wing from Australia.

[Kingdom Hearts]

Good poistion for Kimi andsuper job by Fernando and his mechanics, sadly Mercedes is way too fast.

[Alonsomaniac]

Unlike a lot of people, I am quite satisfied.
All the negative sounds on these forums make me post a lot less, everything Ferrari does is treated in a negative way. Are we here to critisize or to support Ferrari?
Great effort by team and drivers. High five to Alonso's mechanics: they did a super job!
Hope we have a good race!

[Suzie]

What tyres did Kimi qualify on?

[AfterLife]

Good poistion for Kimi andsuper job by Fernando and his mechanics, sadly Mercedes is way too fast.

Happily RedBull is not the fastest still :lou

[Hermann]

Happily RedBull is not the fastest still :lou

Only a question of time- though i'd say Mercedes is in an even better position. We need the team and the drivers step it up big time if we want to have hope for some race wins. I understand the frustration all around, but we really need to support our team more- i'm probably rightly accused of doom and gloom at times but even i find its getting a bit too much. Can we not just comment on the events taking place without screaming and ranting?

[FerrariFanBoii]

Now you say RB are back, like speed wise, sure they seem fast, but have they sorted the reliability? We'll find out tomorrow!

Vettel had problems start of Quali, and think about it, in Austrialia he got hardly any 'race' driving, so his is a first race of the season for him effectively, let's hope our boys overtake him early and he cracks under the pressure!

Good luck for the race tomorrow!

[RedPassion]

Only a question of time- though i'd say Mercedes is in an even better position. We need the team and the drivers step it up big time if we want to have hope for some race wins. I understand the frustration all around, but we really need to support our team more- i'm probably rightly accused of doom and gloom at times but even i find its getting a bit too much. Can we not just comment on the events taking place without screaming and ranting?
We MUST out-develope them :rock

[anakin]

wet qualifying sessions do mess up thing right?
surely it will not rain in Bahrain qualifying and race

[Hornet]

What tyres did Kimi qualify on?

Full wets in Q3. I think only Button set time with intermediate


wet qualifying sessions do mess up thing right?
surely it will not rain in Bahrain qualifying and race

I guess the weather didn't make much of a difference. Had it been dry, Merc would still be ahead anyway, and probably by a second or more. Their engine is not just more powerful, its more drive-able as well.

Come rain or shine, we need to bring improvements to Bahrain if we want to win.

[anakin]

what is the weather forecast for tomorrow's race?

[Hornet]

what is the weather forecast for tomorrow's race?

Thunder storm as well, same as today, according to F1 site.

Malaysian meteorological dept forecast is also isolated thunderstorm in the evening for Sepang

[mark p]

Unlike a lot of people, I am quite satisfied.
All the negative sounds on these forums make me post a lot less, everything Ferrari does is treated in a negative way. Are we here to critisize or to support Ferrari?
Great effort by team and drivers. High five to Alonso's mechanics: they did a super job!
Hope we have a good race!

+1.

Do remember praise or moan does not gain or loose Ferrari a millionth of a second. Some moan as its how they deal with their passion for Ferrari. Different people deal with things in different ways. I get really into tech details when things do not go well and learnt alot last few years. In a different way it becomes an enjoyment as much as 2004 when I could not care what updates were brought car looked the same and used to win all the time. Moaners or positive posters will all celebrate like crazy when Ferrari win.

[anakin]

are we good on wet conditions compared to other teams?
or still better if its is dry?

[PadGeT]

In dry i would say Mercs>ferrari >RB
In wet Mercs=RB>ferrari
rest of the field i dnt care

[Alesi1]

are we good on wet conditions compared to other teams?
or still better if its is dry?

I think although we have great wet weather drivers our car is better in the dry than in the wet. Our car lacks traction/mechanical grip and is relatively better aerodynamically so comparatively speaking should be better in a dry race. A wet race will see us trailing the mercs and rbrs but in the dry I would hope we could stay in touch with merc and benefit from issues with tyre wear/reliability.

[zike]

what about the story that ferrari is 13kg overweight?

any confirmation??

[Hornet]

Any news on fixing Alonso's car. Are the teams allow to take the suspensions apart and replace them?

I'd imagine if the impact was strong enough to break the steering piece, surely the suspension must have taken a hit too.

[Alonsomaniac]

Any news on fixing Alonso's car. Are the teams allow to take the suspensions apart and replace them?

I'd imagine if the impact was strong enough to break the steering piece, surely the suspension must have taken a hit too.

They are allowed to repair the car. It would even be against the safetyregulations if they were not.

[Kristof_F40]

Would guess Fernando did a mistake in S3. Lost over a second. Was quite faster than Rosberg until then.

He was 0,05s slower than ROS after S1 and S2

[Hornet]

They are allowed to repair the car. It would even be against the safetyregulations if they were not.

Glad to hear, thanks:thumb

[PadGeT]

Any news on fixing Alonso's car. Are the teams allow to take the suspensions apart and replace them?

I'd imagine if the impact was strong enough to break the steering piece, surely the suspension must have taken a hit too.

from joseluisf1
@ InsideFerrari can repair the car @ alo_oficial under Article 34.2 w) of the sporting regulations. Tomorrow will rotate well :)

[Alonsomaniac]

what about the story that ferrari is 13kg overweight?

any confirmation??

I don't know about Alonso's car, but Kimi has a solution for the problem: "I was having a **** , he explained......:lol

No, really I don't know, but I don't believe there even was any truth in that story.

[Ferrari Man]

Good result given the weather conditions.. Was a bit miffed in Q1 and some of Q2 where the mercs were a clear 1.7 secs ahead of everyone...

[wisepie]

Credit where it's due, and both our boys did the best they could given the conditions and frankly I'm surprised we were as close as we were, so it bodes well for the race. I just hope the weather plays ball and we don't get a monsoon, fantastic effort by the team to get Fernando back into quali, pray that it's worth it and we can capitalise tomorrow.

[Suzie]

Full wets in Q3. I think only Button set time with intermediate





Thanks :-)

[Alessandra]

Re collsion in q2 of Malaysian GP.
Alonso:-
“I didn’t see him coming, obviously, on the out-lap, it was a little bit aggressive with this visibility but we were lucky enough to put the car together quickly,” said Alonso.
“The mechanics did a fantastic job, but the car was not totally repaired. The steering on the right was so light and on the left so heavy that it was very strange to drive, but enough to complete qualifying.”
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/03/hamilton-manages-monsoon-conditions-to-take-malaysian-pole/

[Kristof_F40]

Re collsion in q2 of Malaysian GP.
Alonso:-
“I didn’t see him coming, obviously, on the out-lap, it was a little bit aggressive with this visibility but we were lucky enough to put the car together quickly,” said Alonso.
“The mechanics did a fantastic job, but the car was not totally repaired. The steering on the right was so light and on the left so heavy that it was very strange to drive, but enough to complete qualifying.”
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/03/hamilton-manages-monsoon-conditions-to-take-malaysian-pole/

This is why Fernando is the best driver of the grid, any car doesn't matter wheter it's good, bad, working, broken, ... he will deliver

[tifosi1993]

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[Senna4Ever]

RBR, has always had good chassis, its just the PU that let them down. No surprise that they ironing the little gremlins out and near front. Why so surprised?


No surprise that the guys THERE at the factory ironed the little gremlins out once again faster than ours
So no surprise as proven since years. I would have been surprised by the other way.

If the guys in the pit would be as fast and reliable as those in Maranello they would still work to get the left front tire off and have the wrong spare part in hands. And that makes me that angry: all the guys which leave their homes early a year to travel around the globe for nearly a year work that hard at the front on the track. And always have to suffer by supplies from home. Spoken military: front gets delivered with cotton to win the war in the waste land.

Next regulation change after the engine try out might be freeze of aero development ...



Not bad quali for us really.

In terms of grid position I'm completely with you ...
In terms of backlock it is as awakening as usual ... as conditions had been the same for all. In terms of encouraging news I would rather have taken FP2 result then this one ...

[sachin]

Didnt watch quali but seems a good result today after what i feel was a eventful qualifying.
Been a log time seen a lap1 pile up ,so hoping hamster and pettel clash into turn 1 with alonso in p1 or p2 and kimi close to him:-D
Whatever it is..expecting a podium tommorrow.
Maybe two but looks a bit tough that:pray

[Senna4Ever]

http://i.imgur.com/vylCNoq.jpg

:clap

this was just a masterpiece of work ...
really amazing and honour where it's due ...

And 3 times ave maria that it wasn't the suspension ...

[Unbannable II]

Little disappointed with Kimis 6th, he looked stronger in dry. Hopefully no rain tomorrow..

It seems his strugles with front end returned in the wet, he was unable to turn properly missing apexes many times and slowing down in the process to make the turn.

[RedPassion]

No surprise that the guys THERE at the factory ironed the little gremlins out once again faster than ours
So no surprise as proven since years. I would have been surprised by the other way.

If the guys in the pit would be as fast and reliable as those in Maranello they would still work to get the left front tire off and have the wrong spare part in hands. And that makes me that angry: all the guys which leave their homes early a year to travel around the globe for nearly a year work that hard at the front on the track. And always have to suffer by supplies from home. Spoken military: front gets delivered with cotton to win the war in the waste land.

Next regulation change after the engine try out might be freeze of aero development ...



In terms of grid position I'm completely with you ...
In terms of backlock it is as awakening as usual ... as conditions had been the same for all. In terms of encouraging news I would rather have taken FP2 result then this one ...
I am not with you on that.It is clearly visible that this year we have something we havent had for a while know,sound downforce.We had absolutely no problems heating the tyres,where in the last years we were often fighting with Toro Rosso,Sauber and Force India each time was colder or slippery,and on the other side i never believed they were truly in trouble,they always say they are in trouble to get an unfair advantage when it comes to homologations and so.

[Kyss4k]

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dne1429ma157.jpg


This photo is fabulous!

[Tifoso]

this was just a masterpiece of work ...
really amazing and honour where it's due ...

And 3 times ave maria that it wasn't the suspension ...


C'mon, it's just a race. Use them for something important. ;-)

[Tifoso]

https://s.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/WCz.kbfnsLU1EXnSbWLjFA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MzYwO2NyPTE7Y3c9NjQwO2R4PTA7ZH k9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD0zNTU7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_GB/Sports/Eurosport/1135538-17875965-640-360.jpg

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

I think I may have peed myself. :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

[Kiwi Nick]

https://s.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/WCz.kbfnsLU1EXnSbWLjFA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MzYwO2NyPTE7Y3c9NjQwO2R4PTA7ZH k9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD0zNTU7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_GB/Sports/Eurosport/1135538-17875965-640-360.jpg

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

I think I may have peed myself. :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

That takes the saying, "All hat and no cattle!" to a previously unimaginable level!!!!!

[fronaldo]

Great pic tifosi1993..3rd pic just become my latest background

[Senna4Ever]

C'mon, it's just a race. Use them for something important. ;-)

:lol
don't worry, I was trained to do more if necessary
3x is just for the daily use ...

[gjoko-mkd]

Bottas: 3-place grid penalty for impeding Ricciardo. Alonso/Kvyat collision: No further action. Simple misunderstanding

[Kyss4k]

Wow, look at this: http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2014/915/7322/speed_trap.html

No one with Ferrari / Renault engine had bigger top speed then any Mercedes powered car. That is just unbelievable. :-E

We and Red Bull surely have a great chassis, when we are able to make it so "close" and ahead of some of them.

[Jas]

I agree with "it"...KILL ME NOW:

Q: Helmut, there are so many rumours about the state of affairs at Red Bull. What is the situation - despite the fact that it was a pretty successful afternoon...
Helmut Marko: If you take only the chassis, we are absolutely at the top. The ‘sick’ part is still the engine, the powertrain. Take for example the situation in FP2 yesterday; we still ran the mapping from Melbourne because the next development step is not working in the way that using it would be an advantage.

Q: That translates into: ‘if the powertrain would deliver, then with the chassis Red Bull would be at the top again’…
HM: Yes, we would be at the top again. But right now with a deficit of around 80 horsepower that’s simply not possible. We have seen that from the speed trap. In parts where the car makes the difference - like in top speed corners or under conditions like we’ve seen this afternoon in qualifying where a driver can make a difference - we are where we want to be.

[Jas]

Wow, look at this: http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2014/915/7322/speed_trap.html

No one with Ferrari / Renault engine had bigger top speed then any Mercedes powered car. That is just unbelievable. :-E

We and Red Bull surely have a great chassis, when we are able to make it so "close" and ahead of some of them.

tbh the gap in speed difference to us isn't that big....whats worrying is that vettel is bottom and still manages to come second....I am just waiting for the inevitable waiting for them to come on top! Hopefully without vettel though

[eddie]

http://i.imgur.com/vylCNoq.jpg

:clap

If its a dry race tomorrow, we will be on the podium for sure. Our team have been very confident over the weekend... Ferrari I think have something up their sleeves

[eddie]

Fernando said the steering wasnt totally fixed, and still got P4, great job all round.

That's true, I f not mistaken one of the years at Sepang, he drove with a broken clutch and won... Amazing genius!

[wisepie]

tbh the gap in speed difference to us isn't that big....whats worrying is that vettel is bottom and still manages to come second....I am just waiting for the inevitable waiting for them to come on top! Hopefully without vettel though
Quite right, Jas, I share your concerns and sincerely hope that if RB end up being unbeatable again later in the season (heaven help us!), it'll be Ricciardo sticking it to Vettel! Their aero/downforce must be the secret to getting so high up the grid, but what's new? Newey should take a sabbatical!

[bondilad]

Alonso says "This weekend, we opted to work more on race pace than on our single lap performance and the feeling is positive".

So I assume it might be very close race up front if the weather stays dry. We can certainly be in the mix.:thumb

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/malaysian-gp-alonso-a-super-team#sthash.DHY7uHZT.dpuf

[F1NAC]

That's true, I f not mistaken one of the years at Sepang, he drove with a broken clutch and won... Amazing genius!

he didn't won. That was in 2010 he retired with engine failure in the final stages of race

[F1NAC]

That's true, I f not mistaken one of the years at Sepang, he drove with a broken clutch and won... Amazing genius!

double post, delete

[Stormsearcher]

Can you imagine if they had Merc engine and no issues in testing? Jesus. :giveup

Good lord! no. :-E

[Stormsearcher]

mclaren likes to try out inters all the time

maybe button with the 'silky smooth' driving style thinks its the only way to jump the others without having to put an effort to do it.

[Nero Horse]

Fernando Alonso, a three times winner in Malaysia, was happy with fourth place on the starting grid on Saturday after steering his battered Ferrari through the rain.

The double Formula One world champion, winner of 32 races in his career, felt fortunate just to be on the second row after earlier colliding with Daniil Kvyat’s Toro Rosso.

The crash in the second phase brought out a red flag and looked like it could be the end of qualifying for the Spaniard but his team managed to fix a broken left steering arm on his car in five minutes and get him back on the track.

“I’m so happy with this qualifying, it’s probably the biggest smile for a fourth position in my career,” Alonso told reporters.

“It was so chaotic, especially at the end with a car that was damaged.

“In the right hand corners I could move the steering wheel with one finger and in the lefts I could not even move it with two hands. In wet conditions was not the easiest way to drive the car.

“We managed to put the car out on the track to complete the laps and those laps were enough for fourth so we need to be very happy.”

The incident with Russian rookie Kvyat was investigated by stewards after the Spaniard turned into the Toro Rosso driver who appeared to lock his wheels and slide into Alonso.

The ever increasing rain had made visibility difficult in the final stages on Saturday with Lewis Hamilton of Mercedes holding on for pole despite abandoning a final flying lap because he couldn’t see in his mirrors.

Alonso said he didn’t see Kvyat, who qualified 11th, and the two shook hands after the incident.

“Obviously it was an unfortunate situation, wrong place at the wrong moment,” said Alonso.

“I didn’t see him, that’s the truth. I turned in and I only felt the hit, I didn’t even see him before he hit my car.

“I didn’t see a replay so I don’t know where he was coming from, if he was late braking I don’t know. For sure it was a surprise on the out-lap with these visibility conditions to have these kind of attacks.”

The rain played havoc with Alonso’s Ferrari team mate Kimi Raikkonen, who had showed good pace in the three dry practice sessions on Friday and Saturday.

The Finn, though, struggled in the wet qualifying sessions and could be heard complaining about being given the wrong intermediate tyres as the rain became heavier as he only managed to qualify in sixth.

[NickEice]

he didn't won. That was in 2010 he retired with engine failure in the final stages of race

What's impressive is I think that is his one and only mechanical retirement in his entire career with Ferrari

[Kristof_F40]

What's impressive is I think that is his one and only mechanical retirement in his entire career with Ferrari

Indeed, if you look at reliability of Ferrari since 2010, it's really incredible, definitly compared to our main competitors

[stefa]

What is the weather now, and what is foretasted for tomorrows race?

[Nero Horse]

What is the weather now, and what is foretasted for tomorrows race?

Forecast is couple of thunderstorms for tomorrow...

You can check live weather here> http://www.accuweather.com/en/my/kuala-lumpur/233776/afternoon-weather-forecast/233776?day=1

[Hornet]

Seems like the chance of rain is dropping

I remember checking weather.com hourly forecast this morning for Sepang, it was 60% during the afternoon. Now it says 40%

[anakin]

I read somewhere that fernando's fastest lap in q3 was in used wets