SpanishGP 2020: Race

[jgonzalesm6]

Will Max take it to at least one of the Mercs??

Can Stroll hold his position or will he have to fend off Norris, Gasly, Albon, or even Sanz??

Will Seb spin....yet again??

Can Leclerc maintain his position???

Should be interesting.

[nani_s23]

Lec 9th on Soft tyres
Vettel 11th on Free choice....

Another Interesting race ahead :-D.... ferrari strategists once again under the pump.

Well Ham vs max vs Bottas.... I hope bottas takes the lead. He’s been doing his best but couldn’t get best results.

If max takes above two cars & crashes. Hope Leclerc will be in a position to capitalise. Wishful thinking but don’t know

[Redfive]

Fingers crossed for a bearable race but Spain is rarely a good one. Forza Ferrari, go Charles/Seb, push that red bus hard!

[PURE PASSION]

I think its difficult to have a repeat of Silverstone 2 performance. The car is too unpredictable !!!!

[458 Italia]

will have the odd glance at this race whilst watching the Criterium du Dauphine.

[stefa]

This will be a procession, as overtaking is so hard on this circuit

[Redfive]

This will be a procession, as overtaking is so hard on this circuit

Unless Bottas grows a spine and takes on his master.

[458 Italia]

Oh I didn't realise Pirelli brought the hardest tyres possible :roll

[killer]

Interested to see our relevant race pace.

Charles on the back foot; far back and on the weak(er) rubber. Hopefully he gets a good start.

Best hope for Seb is a good start and a clean race. He should have more flexibity strategy-wise and the better race tyre. His points to lose.

Pit wall. Stay sharp please.

MotoGP just served up another good one. Amazing Morbidelli and Zarco walked after that shunt. :-E

[458 Italia]

Well that was a good start...

[jgonzalesm6]

Stroll did something!!!

[killer]

Oh I didn't realise Pirelli brought the hardest tyres possible :roll

‘course they did ;-)

[killer]

So Brundle’s come out and said it: that Racing Point is effectively a 2019 Mercedes.

[458 Italia]

So Brundle’s come out and said it: that Racing Point is effectively a 2019 Mercedes.

Really? Never thought he had it in him.

[Rob]

So. Lap 8. Race result top 3

Hamilton

Bottas

Verstappen

[killer]

Really? Never thought he had it in him.

Yeah, in describing Bottas’ pursuit of Stroll.

Lap 7 and it’s tyre management time.

[DJTaurus]

Albon is faster than racing points. So Red Bulls are actually improved not just Max’s talent.

[458 Italia]

So. Lap 8. Race result top 3

Hamilton

Bottas

Verstappen

I don't think you would've got very good odds for that prediction ;-)

[Rob]

I don't think you would've got very good odds for that prediction ;-)

Lol

After yesterday's race this so boring. May turn off and go build lego with keira and Jacob

[458 Italia]

Yeah, in describing Bottas’ pursuit of Stroll.

Well if it looks like a duck... :rotfl


Lap 7 and it’s tyre management time.

Gotta love current F1!

[chinmay]

Is the torpedo on mediums or softs?

[458 Italia]

Lol

After yesterday's race this so boring. May turn off and go build lego with keira and Jacob

It really is!

That sounds like a good plan tbf

[ferrari1.8t]

Karun saying Merc on the radio lap by lap coaching bottas. Isn’t that against the rules?

[458 Italia]

Karun saying Merc on the radio lap by lap coaching bottas. Isn’t that against the rules?

It is if another team does it ;-)

[stefa]

LH is toying with MV. He can easy increase that lead to over 5 sec if needed

[nani_s23]

Race of managing tyres :rotfl wt a F1 show

[nani_s23]

LH is toying with MV. He can easy increase that lead to over 5 sec if needed

Yeah they are concerned about tyres.

[458 Italia]

It looks like no car is within 2 seconds of another, looks like great formation driving though :rotfl

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc same pace as Stroll, while being stuck behind Gasly

[458 Italia]

Race of managing tyres :rotfl wt a F1 show

Don't forget the odd bit of fuel saving!

[chinmay]

Is the torpedo on mediums or softs?

Softs

[killer]

Vettel and Kvyat. This can’t end well.

[stefa]

Don't forget the odd bit of fuel saving!

Yeah, very exciting!!!

[nani_s23]

Ohh wow Alfa’s are faster on Straights line

[Peter De La Mar]

It looks like no car is within 2 seconds of another, looks like great formation driving though :rotfl

Apart from Kvyat who is right up Seb’s rear end.

[jgonzalesm6]

this tire management sucks

[458 Italia]

Apart from Kvyat who is right up Seb’s rear end.

Admittedly I'd failed to spot that lol

[Schumiklub]

We’re 2.5 seconds slower than Mercedes per lap.


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[458 Italia]

this tire management sucks

This is the best period of F1 eva! though according to people like croft.

[nani_s23]

If Leclerc can manage his tyres, he should be in good position when everyone pit around him

[Hornet]

I guess it will be a 1 stop race.
Tyres way too hard, boring

[tifosi1993]

Charles's pace is pretty good, doing 1m24.9 while being stuck behind Gasly.

[nani_s23]

Softs are holding well....

[jgonzalesm6]

Albon on hards.....

[stefa]

Charles's pace is pretty good, doing 1m24.9 while being stuck behind Gasly.

What do you mean stuck?! He didn't have a single chance of overtaking him, nor even close to him?!

[nani_s23]

Oh Kimi .....good fight

[Greig]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[stefa]

What do you mean stuck?! He didn't have a single chance of overtaking him, nor even close to him?!

Only now he had a first chance!

[458 Italia]

Are they just showing footage of pre season testing?

[Redfive]

21laps in, Ferrari 8 and 10th. Going to turn off the TV and not waste more time on this joke of a sport.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc with fresh air 1m24.9, 1.3 seconds faster than Stroll

[tifosi1993]

Vettel on fresh mediums slower than Charles, who's on 26 laps old softs

[nani_s23]

Wt Lec will work is Ric/Ocon/vettel should block Albon/sainz/Norris/Gas

[nani_s23]

Vettel pace is horrible

[tifosi1993]

Another incredible display of race craft and tyre management from Charles, he's catching Stroll a second/lap

[jgonzalesm6]

Max getting feisty...

[ntukza]

I'm not so sure I like Verstappen's attitude.

[nani_s23]

K-Mag should hold these cars for couple of laps more

[jgonzalesm6]

I'm not so sure I like Verstappen's attitude.

THAT'S THE MOST EXCITING PART OF THE RACE!!!! I WANT MORE MAX ATTITUDE!!!!:-D

[DJTaurus]

Does Lec has the time gap to pit in front of the magnusen train ???

[458 Italia]

Doctors should prescribe watching this as cure for insomnia.

[ss-89]

The guys on new mediums gasly etc are lapping the same or slower than leclerc on 27 lap old softs. Track position and clean air more important.

[DJTaurus]

Doctors should prescribe watching this as cure for insomnia.

Fun between VER and BOT incoming. :)

Or maybe not.....

[DJTaurus]

It seems only soft tyre works here.......

[nani_s23]

Wt did ferrari do :rotfl 2 cars at the same time

[killer]

2-stop for both VET and LEC?

[Tifoso Svedese]

Another suicide-by-pitwall. Should've waited until he was ahead of Albon, which was happening :furious

[ss-89]

Stupid decision should have waited for the train to spread out. Now everyone is stuck in a drs train

[458 Italia]

The Ferrari doesn't look good to drive at all.

[nani_s23]

Leclerc is making this race interesting :rotfl

[nani_s23]

Ferrari Car is horrible

[stefa]

Leclerc is making this race interesting :rotfl

Rain, if it is coming, would make things interesting

[jgonzalesm6]

Rain on lap50....interesting

[nani_s23]

Rain, if it is coming, would make things interesting

Our car is horrible In every condition... I don’t expect anything on our car.

[tifosi1993]

Get your act together Ferrari. Horrible engine with horrible reliability.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Great job guys :clap :thumb

[Greig]

Damn

[nani_s23]

Ferrari car spins :-)

[458 Italia]

Oooops

[stefa]

Our car is horrible In every condition... I don’t expect anything on our car.

I am not saying because of Ferrari, but of overall entertainment, as this is boring as hell!

[Greig]

Ferrari car spins :-)

Engine related

[JHAMMER]

What the great Charles has spun??

[killer]

Hahahaha jeez but we properly suck :-)

[nani_s23]

BTW great fight by Charles :clap

[ntukza]

And now our engine just switches off mid-race. Oh dear.

[ss-89]

What the great Charles has spun??

Are you even watching. His engine cut out completely mid corner and has failed.

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc is out.

[458 Italia]

Park the car.

[Hornet]

Our reliability us moving backwads along with our performance:-(

[nani_s23]

What the great Charles has spun??

We have worst reliability & worst car.

[Greig]

What the great Charles has spun??

Yes, due to the engine dying.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Nah I'm out. Too good weather for this garbage. Hopefully Noah's flood and the scum spins. Preferably both cars.

[Kyss4k]

What an engine! Even Dacia would not want to put this into their cars.

[nani_s23]

Leclerc is out.

Don’t think so... he’s into pits for seat belt

[Jax]

what a ****** donkey of a car, i feel for Charles .. he just doesn't want to keep going ...what do they not understand at the pit lane

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari car spins :-)

It was engine related. Too bad you can't fly your agenda here.

[JHAMMER]

Are you even watching. His engine cut out completely mid corner and has failed.

If it was Vettel you would be all over him engine caused it or not.

[Greig]

If it was Vettel you would be all over him engine caused it or not.

No

[458 Italia]

What part of the engine failed? MGUK? ICE? BBQ?

[stefa]

From bad to worst!

[nani_s23]

May be rain should help Leclerc :pray

[jgonzalesm6]

Don’t think so... he’s into pits for seat belt

He should just quit....it's over for him.

[Greig]

Charles retired

[tifosi1993]

If it was Vettel you would be all over him engine caused it or not.

Yeah because Vettel spins on his own.

[nani_s23]

May be rain should help Leclerc :pray

Ohhh he’s out

[gump1480]

And now our engine just switches off mid-race. Oh dear.

Lec pushed the car too hard...so as a revolt the engine shuts off

[stefa]

SV is to be lapped

[ss-89]

If it was Vettel you would be all over him engine caused it or not.

Me specifically I couldn't care less who spins. I dont support drivers I support ferrari. If youre some vettel fanboy jog on.

[Schumiklub]

I’m out, there’s no point in watching the race to the end.


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[tifosi1993]

Lec pushed the car too hard...so as a revolt the engine shuts off

Did the engine told you that through telepathy?

[Ferrari312T4]

Hows everyone enjoying the Mercedes festival?

[nani_s23]

Ohhh Leclerc, he seems disappointed. Sad to see, he was fighting with that car

[tifosi1993]

Hows everyone enjoying the Mercedes festival?

It's bad to watch. But atleast they are not incompetent.

[JHAMMER]

Me specifically I couldn't care less who spins. I dont support drivers I support ferrari. If youre some vettel fanboy jog on.

Wrong, not a Vettel fanboy just see the bias.
Btw have been a FERRARI fan longer than you have been alive.

[nani_s23]

Sainz doing super job... that defensive was awesome

[458 Italia]

It's a absolutely chucking it down here with thunder and lightning, I'm nowhere near Barcelona, just thought I'd mention it lol

[tifosi1993]

Hamilton FL on 22 laps old medium tyres...:rotfl

[stefa]

It's a absolutely chucking it down here with thunder and lightning, I'm nowhere near Barcelona, just thought I'd mention it lol
:rotfl

[458 Italia]

mercedes are much happier with the tyres this week, Pirelli have obviously learnt their lesson.

[tifosi1993]

Vettel can savour some points if the rain arrives early. Stroll is catching him second per lap.

[ss-89]

Wrong, not a Vettel fanboy just see the bias.
Btw have been a FERRARI fan longer than you have been alive.

Keep living in denial, you went at Charles for spinning without knowing he had an engine issue and now are trying to deflect with your tail between your legs. Jog on.

Oh and congratulations on your length of time...want a medal?


Vettel can savour some points if the rain arrives early. Stroll is catching him second per lap.

Hes going to have to pit again so might be tough. Solid enough drive this week

[killer]

Will Vettel’s softs last till the end? He ends up P12/13 if he stops again by my estimate.

[nani_s23]

Vettel is faster than Perez

[stefa]

3 cars in the same lap

[DJTaurus]

Finally bottas vs ver will happen.

[nani_s23]

Vettel is faster than Perez.5ths per lap

[WS6TransAm01]

So who still thinks is getting rid of qualifying modes is actually gonna do anything?

Ahahahahahahhahahaha

[Rob]

mercedes are much happier with the tyres this week, Pirelli have obviously learnt their lesson.

Been told off by merc more like. Please dont bring those really softs again. We cannt handle them.

[stefa]

So who still thinks is getting rid of qualifying modes is actually gonna do anything?

Ahahahahahahhahahaha

:thumb

[tifosi1993]

Vettel PB 1m22.707, 2.5 seconds faster than Perez.

PS: and now Perez has picked up his pace

[458 Italia]

Been told off by merc more like. Please dont bring those really softs again. We cannt handle them.

Pretty much, The status quo is restored :-D

[nani_s23]

Perez is under investigation for ignoring blue flags

[tifosi1993]

There's absolutely no excuses, if the butler can't overtake Max with his rocketship.

[Kyss4k]

Leclerc would finish 4th again if the technology wouldn't let him down. We have an extraordinary driver in our ranks and we are wasting his talent.

[nani_s23]

Ferrari radio : can we go to end on this tyres ?
Vettel: Ah.....***** I’ve asked you this before...

[jgonzalesm6]

Seb feisty with his strategist.

[nani_s23]

Vettel: Nothing to loose, I’ll try to manage ....

[nani_s23]

Seb feisty with his strategist.

Yup he asked the team before for which they didn’t respond anything

[WS6TransAm01]

Ferrari strategists again have no idea what they are doing. Might as well have a chicken make the call.

[nani_s23]

Perez 5sec penalty

[killer]

Lapped.

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc would finish 4th again if the technology wouldn't let him down. We have an extraordinary driver in our ranks and we are wasting his talent.

Yup...he was lapping faster than both TP's before the pit stop, while got held up by traffic for nearly 20 laps. And after the pitstop he still had traffic.

With clear air and no engine issues, it would've been a easy P4 for Charles.

[stefa]

SP +5 sec penalty

[Kyss4k]

Ferrari strategists again have no idea what they are doing. Might as well have a chicken make the call.

It's like the whole team is rotten.

[stefa]

Honestly I don't know why he got it??!!?

[chinmay]

Yup he asked the team before for which they didn’t respond anything

So he pushed expecting 2 stop and now it will be 1 stop.

[tifosi1993]

Yup he asked the team before for which they didn’t respond anything

Really? Your source?

[Timpolidori]

Pathetic

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[killer]

That was a very quick penalty for Checo I must say.

[nani_s23]

So he pushed expecting 2 stop and now it will be 1 stop.

Yup it’s a easy pass for stroll on straights :rotfl

[JPMFerrari]

Another boring race. The F1 viewing attendance will continue to dwindle with the Mercedes dominance.

[chinmay]

Yup...he was lapping faster than both TP's before the pit stop, while got held up by traffic for nearly 20 laps. And after the pitstop he still had traffic.

With clear air and no engine issues, it would've been a easy P4 for Charles.

With clear track and no Mercedes, it would've been a easy P1 for Verstappen.

[nani_s23]

Vettel will be easy pass for all .... this is getting bad

[stefa]

SV tires are gone, and now they will pit him to get excellent 13th place! Great!!!

[nani_s23]

Stroll passes ferrari :rotfl

[tifosi1993]

Sainz, Albon, Gasly, Norris, Ricciardo all of them will overtake Vettel.

[nani_s23]

SV tires are gone, and now they will pit him to get excellent 13th place! Great!!!

Yeah

[tifosi1993]

With clear track and no Mercedes, it would've been a easy P1 for Verstappen.

Well done. :clap

Now you want a cookie?

[WS6TransAm01]

It's like the whole team is rotten.

From top to bottom. It’s very sad.

Had they told Seb he was supposed to go to the end he would have managed his tires. After 20 plus laps on the tire, oh wait, no go to the end. Come on. Make up your mind.

[stefa]

I really would like to know what are all these guys on Ferrari pit wall working?!?!?

[Ferrari312T4]

Vettel overtaken by an illegal car

[chinmay]

SV tires are gone, and now they will pit him to get excellent 13th place! Great!!!

First, they pit him early despite having medium tyres and they put soft tyres and ask to do more laps on it than mediums. Might scrap a 10th place finish.

[JPMFerrari]

Bring back Ross Brawn!

[stefa]

CS is now thinking, my God I will drive this tractor next year!

[nani_s23]

Really? Your source?

Team radio: when Lec is out.

[JPMFerrari]

From top to bottom. It’s very sad.

Had they told Seb he was supposed to go to the end he would have managed his tires. After 20 plus laps on the tire, oh wait, no go to the end. Come on. Make up your mind.

We need Ross Brawn.

[tifosi1993]

First, they pit him early despite having medium tyres and they put soft tyres and ask to do more laps on it than mediums. Might scrap a 10th place finish.

But his pace was horrible on mediums. Charles was lapping faster then him on softs.

You can't blame Ferrari when your driver was doing slower time than everyone else.

[alfaromeo]

If Enzo Ferrari were still alive or Sergio Marchioni would fire the entire f1 division team at Ferrari because they are doing a disgrace to the Ferrari brand.

[WS6TransAm01]

Carlos over takes the car he will be driving next year. Hahahahahaha

This is the greatest comedy every!

[killer]

How bad was that (non) call for Seb? Wow.

[WS6TransAm01]

Carlos over takes the car he will be driving next year. Hahahahahaha

This is the greatest comedy every!

[nani_s23]

But his pace was horrible on mediums. Charles was lapping faster then him on softs.

You can't blame Ferrari when your driver was doing slower time than everyone else.

Hello.... his 2nd stint is faster..!! Don’t blame driver everytime. When Lec was out watch the team radio....!!

Yes his 1st stint was horrible ... but that’s nothing to do with his position.
It’s about strategy the discussion is...

[jgonzalesm6]

charles car....it was electrical....probably caused by the kerb.

[WS6TransAm01]

Seb should park the car and hit the showers. Not worth his time.

[tifosi1993]

Hello.... his 2nd stint is faster..!! Don’t blame driver everytime. When Lec was out watch the team radio....!!

You were talking about his first stint. You said they have pitted him "early". :lol

He actually did 27 laps on mediums and his pace was slower than those on softs around him.

[chinmay]

But his pace was horrible on mediums. Charles was lapping faster then him on softs.

You can't blame Ferrari when your driver was doing slower time than everyone else.

He was 5 seconds off Leclerc before the stops which came around lap 25. 5 seconds off in total on a slower tire. Just shows whose pace was horrible.

[nani_s23]

charles car....it was electrical....probably caused by the kerb.

Yeah might be the one where he tried to pass Norris on the outside & went off the track?

[Greig]

Carlos over takes the car he will be driving next year. Hahahahahaha

This is the greatest comedy every!

And so did Schumi in his Benetton....what is your point?

[JPMFerrari]

The car stinks, the strategy stinks....the complete package.

[WS6TransAm01]

3 cars out of 19 on the lead lap. Good job FIA!

[tifosi1993]

Bottas on Mercedes party mode, 22.0 in sector 1 and FL out of nowhere.

[chinmay]

Would be tough for Vettel to hold position with 2 laps remaining.

[elnano14]

So then, what's the point of pitting him for softs 2nd stint and expecting him doing 1 stop ? He had already asked them about the strategy but they completely ignored him

[stefa]

Hats down to SV for driving those tires for 36 laps!!!

[tifosi1993]

Nah...Vettel is fine. P7 for him.

[Greig]

Nice job Seb.

[stefa]

Good drive by SV :clap

[nani_s23]

Good job by vettel .... keeping faster cars behind :clap .. managing with 1stop.

[jgonzalesm6]

Seb P7....well done on those tires.

[tifosi1993]

So then, what's the point of pitting him for softs 2nd stint and expecting him doing 1 stop ? He had already asked them about the strategy but they completely ignored him

Because there was a chance of rain and soft was holding up quite well. And it's not like Ferrari were the only one to put him on softs, Mclaren did the same with both of their drivers, so did Renault with Ocon and Haas with Magnussen

[killer]

4 place swing. Good work, Seb.

[JPMFerrari]

Vettel salvages 7th.

[Schumiklub]

Vettel rescuing a bit of points for Ferrari. Awesome drive with softs.


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[WS6TransAm01]

And so did Schumi in his Benetton....what is your point?

And went from WDC to 3rd...

[nani_s23]

Driver of the day : Vettel :clap

[drax]

Great Drive Seb !

[Greig]

And went from WDC to 3rd...

Yeah and to 7 x WDC....duh

[Rishu]

Good job Seb
Valtteri Butler beaten by Max. Haha

[chinmay]

On top of his extreme slow performances, Bottas also had the audacity to ask for 2 years contract. :lol

[nani_s23]

Lewis racing against incapable teammate :-)

[tifosi1993]

Good job Seb
Valtteri Butler beaten by Max. Haha

Butler is wasting that Mercedes seat. It's quite infuriating tbh. Even Rubens was more of a challenge to Michael.

To spice up the show, F1 needs Max in that second Mercedes.

[nani_s23]

Butler is wasting that Mercedes seat. It's quite infuriating tbh. Even Rubens was more of a challenge to Michael.

To spice up the show, F1 needs Max in that second Mercedes.

My thoughts too... Max or Lec against Ham. We can imagine Lewis frustration

[nani_s23]

Next is Spa....:roll more worried

[elnano14]

Because there was a chance of rain and soft was holding up quite well. And it's not like Ferrari were the only one to put him on softs, Mclaren did the same with both of their drivers, so did Renault with Ocon and Haas with Magnussen

Both Mclaren did 2 stops at the end. Ocon and Haas completely out of the points. The problem is not 1 stop or 2 stop, it's the team when Seb asked should he push (and pit again) or not (1 stop) but they IGNORED him

[WS6TransAm01]

Yeah and to 7 x WDC....duh

When there was no engine freeze, unlimited private testing and capable people leading the teams. Dude. How delusional are you? Are you really comparing the two eras? Ferrari has the market cornered on incompetence at the moment. They can’t figure out how to correlate wind tunnel data with the real world FOR OVER TEN YEARS!

Your feeble attempts and defending the teams utter failures are hysterical.

[tifosi1993]

My thoughts too... Max or Lec against Ham. We can imagine Lewis frustration

Nah...Mercedes can have Max. There's no way in hell I would want Charles to end up at Mercedes.

[Greig]

When there was no engine freeze, unlimited private testing and capable people leading the teams. Dude. How delusional are you? Are you really comparing the two eras? Ferrari has the market cornered on incompetence at the moment. They can’t figure out how to correlate wind tunnel data with the real world FOR OVER TEN YEARS!

Your feeble attempts and defending the teams utter failures are hysterical.

Support another team already......

[SashAlex]

So Sbinotto threatened to leave Ferrari in 2018 if they kept Arrivabene as the TP and in less than 2 years he's brought Ferrari to this, with another 2 years of struggle ahead at least, cheating with the engine without a plan B and accepting something FIA couldn't prove.

Bravo! Bravo!

Crap chassis, weak engine, problems with reliability, dumb tactics, slow as pit crew. Absolute mediocrity.

What is left is only the name. Happy Seb is getting his out of this mess and poor Charles for having to endure ahead this italian mediocrity.

[Hornet]

I'm glad Vettel manage to held on to P7 and salvage something, in what was otherwise a rather dark day for us.

Wish I could say Charles issue was a surprise, but we've already had few reliability issues in FP this season.
And I'm not even sure what's happening at our pit wall.

We have a huge mountain to climb ahead of us. As always, we can only hope we'll comeback in good shape come 2022

[ntukza]

It's like the whole team is rotten.

That's the scary part. Sure, Vettel is leaving and a new driver is coming, but the problem is not the drivers, it's the TEAM. We certainly look like one of the worst teams out there at the moment, and I'm not talking about the performance of the car, I'm talking about the skill, ability and mentality of the team. I mean look at the Red Bull and Merc teams respond to tough situations in a matter of a week or two. We can't respond, we can't plan, we can't strategise, we can't develop, and we need a season or two and some rule changes to have a hope of turning things around. It's quite frustrating.

[KimiBot]

So Sbinotto threatened to leave Ferrari in 2018 if they kept Arrivabene as the TP and in less than 2 years he's brought Ferrari to this, with another 2 years of struggle ahead at least, cheating with the engine without a plan B and accepting something FIA couldn't prove.

Bravo! Bravo!

Crap chassis, weak engine, problems with reliability, dumb tactics, slow as pit crew. Absolute mediocrity.

What is left is only the name. Happy Seb is getting his out of this mess and poor Charles for having to endure ahead this italian mediocrity.

:cheers

[ntukza]

Lewis racing against incapable teammate :-)

Mercedes racing against incapable teams.

[nani_s23]

Nah...Mercedes can have Max. There's no way in hell I would want Charles to end up at Mercedes.

But if ferrari issue is same going ahead, I mean if there’s no progress in 2years. I don’t want to see Charles in ferrari getting his talent wasted.

Ferrari is here to win & winning championship with Ferrari is above all other teams.
Although drivers come & go, but it’s not that driver just gets into the car & just drive.

[jgonzalesm6]

Aside from Seb's driving form in the last 3 years, you have to give Seb props for questioning his strategist....yet again. Looks great for Seb, emabarassing for Ferrari.

[tifosi1993]

https://twitter.com/deadlinex/status/1295007546336579584


And people here thinks that Mercedes is only winning against us because they are cheating....

Utterly incompetent.

[Rob]

https://twitter.com/deadlinex/status/1295007546336579584


And people here thinks that Mercedes is only winning against us because they are cheating....

Utterly incompetent.

Not incompetent, sounds like his engineer was looking at telemetry and because se of the electrical issue was showing all ok.

[jgonzalesm6]

https://twitter.com/deadlinex/status/1295007546336579584


And people here thinks that Mercedes is only winning against us because they are cheating....

Utterly incompetent.


Charles has alot of food on his plate......for years to come. He's still young so he can handle it for now.

[nani_s23]

Aside from Seb's driving form in the last 3 years, you have to give Seb props for questioning his strategist....yet again. Looks great for Seb, emabarassing for Ferrari.

Yup that’s correct

[JHAMMER]

This should show that Vettel is not the only one that is getting a crappy car.
Leclerc is getting the most of the car they are giving him, just like Alonso did.

[nani_s23]

Charles has alot of food on his plate......for years to come. He's still young so he can handle it for now.

Yup...!! Down the line after 2-3years if it’s the same then the issues will start.

[WS6TransAm01]

Support another team already......

I’d rather see the team pull their collective heads out of their butts, fire incompetent employees, hire strong leaders and capable engineers. Stop kowtowing to the FIA and use their “muscle”. I will continue to voice that opinion until they start winning. Even if it takes another decade, which it very well might.

What I won’t do is accept mediocrity, let alone celebrate it like you do. It’s pathetic.

[Rob]

Aside from Seb's driving form in the last 3 years, you have to give Seb props for questioning his strategist....yet again. Looks great for Seb, emabarassing for Ferrari.

So was max. Does that make it embarrassing for rbr too? No. Allll drivers in ever team at some point during the season will question strategy in the races. Just how fom manage the team radios. Spice things up, try make team look as if in total dire.

[PURE PASSION]

Ι cant believe how much the team is falling apart !!!!
In every single aspect we are from mediocre to really bad to litterly sometimes acting/ responding like ammatures!!!!!!!!
WHY ?????!!!!! What's going on ???!!! We are probably not the best team on personnel, but for sure not what we are looking this year !!!!!!!!!!!

[PURE PASSION]

So was max. Does that make it embarrassing for rbr too? No. Allll drivers in ever team at some point during the season will question strategy in the races. Just how fom manage the team radios. Spice things up, try make team look as if in total dire.

I agree with with in that (and Ham a lot of times have questioned his team's choices) .BUT the bad thing for us is that we "stay" with this bad picture/appearance and we dont do anything good to redeem ourselves!!!!!!!

[nani_s23]

So was max. Does that make it embarrassing for rbr too? No. Allll drivers in ever team at some point during the season will question strategy in the races. Just how fom manage the team radios. Spice things up, try make team look as if in total dire.

RBR are best strategists on the grid above mercs/ferrari, if you see their history of the wins mostly won on tyre strategy.
I didn’t see Max calling for the tyre strategy at least his days with RB team.

[Schumiklub]

It’s incredible which mistakes keep happening. Like we’re amateurs. Wrong strategy calls, misunderstandings and stupid reliability issues. Charles says a top 5 finish was possible.


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[Greig]

So was max. Does that make it embarrassing for rbr too? No. Allll drivers in ever team at some point during the season will question strategy in the races. Just how fom manage the team radios. Spice things up, try make team look as if in total dire.

Lewis also challenged his strategy today....hardly a major deal.

[paolo lalli]

There is a dark cloud over Ferrari the team is no where.FROM A PENTHOUSE TO THE **** HOUSE in rapid time.ferrari do not even have the correct toilet paper to deal with the issue.Just like the rest of the planet Ferrari have serious issues very sad for f1 very sad for fans sponsors and ultimately Charles that poor kid he must need therapy after each f1 race.Ferrari you have let down every body very badly.

[Greig]

I’d rather see the team pull their collective heads out of their butts, fire incompetent employees, hire strong leaders and capable engineers. Stop kowtowing to the FIA and use their “muscle”. I will continue to voice that opinion until they start winning. Even if it takes another decade, which it very well might.

What I won’t do is accept mediocrity, let alone celebrate it like you do. It’s pathetic.

Merc awaits your support.

[WS6TransAm01]

So Sbinotto threatened to leave Ferrari in 2018 if they kept Arrivabene as the TP and in less than 2 years he's brought Ferrari to this, with another 2 years of struggle ahead at least, cheating with the engine without a plan B and accepting something FIA couldn't prove.

Bravo! Bravo!

Crap chassis, weak engine, problems with reliability, dumb tactics, slow as pit crew. Absolute mediocrity.

What is left is only the name. Happy Seb is getting his out of this mess and poor Charles for having to endure ahead this italian mediocrity.

Maybe it’s that we have the same name, but I really like this guy.


That's the scary part. Sure, Vettel is leaving and a new driver is coming, but the problem is not the drivers, it's the TEAM. We certainly look like one of the worst teams out there at the moment, and I'm not talking about the performance of the car, I'm talking about the skill, ability and mentality of the team. I mean look at the Red Bull and Merc teams respond to tough situations in a matter of a week or two. We can't respond, we can't plan, we can't strategise, we can't develop, and we need a season or two and some rule changes to have a hope of turning things around. It's quite frustrating.

SuPpOrT aNoThEr TeAm AlReAdY... - gReIg

[Alakshendra]

Mercedes racing against incapable teams.

:thumb

[Alakshendra]

That's the scary part. Sure, Vettel is leaving and a new driver is coming, but the problem is not the drivers, it's the TEAM. We certainly look like one of the worst teams out there at the moment, and I'm not talking about the performance of the car, I'm talking about the skill, ability and mentality of the team. I mean look at the Red Bull and Merc teams respond to tough situations in a matter of a week or two. We can't respond, we can't plan, we can't strategise, we can't develop, and we need a season or two and some rule changes to have a hope of turning things around. It's quite frustrating.

What else we can do, as ferrari fans we have to bear the embarrassment and support team and hope that gets sacked soon and some good engineers get hired.

[WS6TransAm01]

Merc awaits your support.

And the gold metal for mental gymnastics goes to Greig. That’s the type of logic the Ferrari pit wall uses. Wanting Ferrari to succeed and criticizing them when they don’t does not mean I want to support another team. It just shows that I am not a sheep, bleating pleasantries in support of failure.

A team like Ferrari can not and should not accept failure and neither should their true fans.

[Greig]

And the gold metal for mental gymnastics goes to Greig. That’s the type of logic the Ferrari pit wall uses. Wanting Ferrari to succeed and criticizing them when they don’t does not mean I want to support another team. It just shows that I am not a sheep, bleating pleasantries in support of failure.

A team like Ferrari can not and should not accept failure and neither should their true fans.

It's pathetic that you can't seem to accept there is no magic wand and this will not be fixed this year and probably not next, so repeating your same rubbish race after race is not going to change a thing, suck it up or come back when we are winning.

Or support another team as I said before.

[Alakshendra]

It's pathetic that you can't seem to accept there is no magic wand and this will not be fixed this year and probably not next, so repeating your same rubbish race after race is not going to change a thing, suck it up or come back when we are winning.

Or support another team as I said before.

Agreed no magic can be done but i sure like to raise one point, in football clubs buys players and managers and support staff which are best in business.Why is ferrari not bringing Merc engineers then? Its ferrari, forget the ego splash cash or do whatever it takes and get those engineers

[Greig]

Agreed no magic can be done but i sure like to raise one point, in football clubs buys players and managers and support staff which are best in business.Why is ferrari not bringing Merc engineers then? Its ferrari, forget the ego splash cash or do whatever it takes and get those engineers

Maybe they are happy at Mercedes? Are you suggesting Ferrari is not trying to hire people?

[JPMFerrari]

Ross Brawn says Ferrari face a 'long road ahead' to rediscover competitiveness

Ross is spot on. Only wish Ferrari could somehow lure him back to the team.

[jgonzalesm6]

So was max. Does that make it embarrassing for rbr too? No. Allll drivers in ever team at some point during the season will question strategy in the races. Just how fom manage the team radios. Spice things up, try make team look as if in total dire.

Max today was a feisty Max. His engineer toned him down. We did'nt here Max again.

Max last week went against his engineer to save the tires....Max got it right.

RBR overall are good strategists.....up there with Mercedes.

Yes, Lewis and Max question ther strategist but these are top notch teams in top notch cars. More often, the strategist from said teams ""quiets" the driver down.

[Golfsmith]

Only wish Ferrari could somehow lure him back to the team.
Why you want him back,his feeding Merc all the info they want,and i dont care what any body on this forum says but it all about Lewis (racist) Merc/FIA/Liberty/Politics for there show.
I realy hope LH retire very soon together with Merc.

[JPMFerrari]

Why you want him back,his feeding Merc all the info they want,and i dont care what any body on this forum says but it all about Lewis (racist) Merc/FIA/Liberty/Politics for there show.
I realy hope LH retire very soon together with Merc.

Because he would get Ferrari winning again.

[wisepie]

It sums up the current state of our team when we manage to get one car home in P7, and that was thanks to the driver we have been criticising endlessly in recent times. Tyre management, fuel saving, engine freezes, strategy being more important than racing and this is the pinnacle of motorsport? We are wasting a brilliant driver in Charles, we've had Alpha Tauris able to pass us without trying, and Binotto is happy to let this be the status quo until 2022 at the earliest. He needs to grow some ***** and fight our corner. Thanks to Seb managing those softs, we scraped though with 6 measly points. What a carry-on.:-E

[h3ro]

Shame for Charles today.
Solid recovery from Seb to nurse the tires.

What a shambles this current Formula is. Tires, Tires and more Tires. I hate this world of "management phases".

Full marks to Merc for adapting to their car/tire performance to hot temperatures in a span of 5-6 days. Amazing, really.

Takes me back when we had leadership that could galvanize the team to fight like that.

Merc takes finishing a race 2nd and 3rd harder than we take a DNF and 7th.

[SilverSpeed]

To bad Charles didn't finish the race, I thought Seb spun again first lol.

Another yawn race good old boring predictable F1 ftw he LM.

[KimiBot]

1 Hamilton GBR Mercedes 132
2 Verstappen NED Red Bull Racing Honda 95
3 Bottas FIN Mercedes 89
4 Leclerc MON Ferrari 45
5 Stroll CAN Racing Point BWT Mercedes 40
6 Albon THA Red Bull Racing Honda 40
7 Norris GBR McLaren Renault 39
8 Perez MEX Racing Point BWT Mercedes 32
9 Sainz ESP McLaren Renault 23
10 Ricciardo AUS Renault 20
11 Vettel GER Ferrari 16
12 Ocon FRA Renault 16
13 Gasly FRA AlphaTauri Honda 14
14 Hulkenberg GER Racing Point BWT Mercedes 6
15 Giovinazzi ITA Alfa Romeo Racing Ferrari 2
16 Kvyat RUS AlphaTauri Honda 2
17 Magnussen DEN Haas Ferrari 1
18 Räikkönen FIN Alfa Romeo Racing Ferrari 0
19 Latifi CAN Williams Mercedes 0
20 Russell GBR Williams Mercedes 0
21 Grosjean FRA Haas Ferrari 0

[KimiBot]

1 Mercedes 221
2 Red Bull Racing Honda 135
3 Racing Point BWT Mercedes 63
4 McLaren Renault 62
5 Ferrari 61
6 Renault 36
7 AlphaTauri Honda 16
8 Alfa Romeo Racing Ferrari 2
9 Haas Ferrari 1
10 Williams Mercedes 0

[JPMFerrari]

1 Mercedes 221
2 Red Bull Racing Honda 135
3 Racing Point BWT Mercedes 63
4 McLaren Renault 62
5 Ferrari 61
6 Renault 36
7 AlphaTauri Honda 16
8 Alfa Romeo Racing Ferrari 2
9 Haas Ferrari 1
10 Williams Mercedes 0

Enzo Ferrari turning over in his grave.

[JPMFerrari]

Ferrari's race strategy is second to none. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIMeEB2nq0c

[SS454]

Bottas is generally very good at the start. Did he just have a bad start, or was he told to protect from cars charging in the draft? I don't think the team wanted to see him drop to p4, but everything about that start was bad. The launch, the car positioning, the aggressiveness, etc.

There sure is a lot of "evidence" that could suggest Ferrari has given up on Vettel. Driving of the day? I don't think so, but man... at least give the dude a fair strategy.

To me the highlight of the weekend was Nico Rosberg. His commentary on Friday was some of the best I've ever listened to. He has called it like it is throughout the weekend and has been very very enlightening and enjoyable.

[tifosi1993]

Bad strategy has been the problem for 2-3 years now. The problem, it seems, that they are simply incapable of thinking outside the box. Ferrari's strategy is just all about plan A or B or C or whatever.

Looking at the lap times, had they pitted Charles 3 laps earlier, he would've easily got ahead of the Ocon train. They need to get rid of Rueda asap.

[JPMFerrari]

Bottas is generally very good at the start. Did he just have a bad start, or was he told to protect from cars charging in the draft? I don't think the team wanted to see him drop to p4, but everything about that start was bad. The launch, the car positioning, the aggressiveness, etc.

There sure is a lot of "evidence" that could suggest Ferrari has given up on Vettel. Driving of the day? I don't think so, but man... at least give the dude a fair strategy.

To me the highlight of the weekend was Nico Rosberg. His commentary on Friday was some of the best I've ever listened to. He has called it like it is throughout the weekend and has been very very enlightening and enjoyable.

Ferrari's team "strategists" are generally bad to begin with, without having to make intentionally worse decisions for Vettel. :-D