F1 2022 Pre-Season Testing Thread

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMRGpuqXMAgn2eS?format=jpg&name=orig

[tifosi1993]

RB's quite extreme Sidepod.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMRE9DTX0AEzOOL.jpg

From above It pretty much looks the F1-75

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMREQ7xXMAQo5Am?format=jpg&name=large

[jgonzalesm6]

RedBull looks "wicked"

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1496394789813735425/photo/1

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1496396095165022212/photo/1

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1496396095165022212/photo/2

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1496398354934292482/photo/1

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1496398354934292482/photo/2

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1496398354934292482/photo/3

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1496398354934292482/photo/4

https://twitter.com/SalaStampRacing/status/1496396912865550336/photo/1

https://twitter.com/mara_sangiorgio/status/1496395462391345153/photo/1

https://twitter.com/JunaidSamodien_/status/1496398749299625984/photo/1

[SS454]

That undercut is unbelievable. Also look how big and far forward the tunnel strakes are. Teams are allowed 4, and Red Bull are using 2 as far forward as they can get. Surely this is to control the wake off the front tire as quickly as possible and then out wash it away from the undercut. Meanwhile the inner strake helps grab all that juicy air to feed to the undercut and down the body. Their floor appears appears to be the most genuine too, at least I hope so because they have all sorts of tricks going on.

Aerodynamically, this car scares me the most. But Newey has made some impressive designs before that struggled with cooling or other reliability issues.

[PURE PASSION]

And we are still running the launch spec!!!
I wonder if we actually gonna have any upgrades at all??!!!

[SS454]

And we are still running the launch spec!!!
I wonder if we actually gonna have any upgrades at all??!!!

I would count on it. Day 1 testing is always about system checks, calibrations, checking for any mechanical issues. I doubt Ferrari will even have an aero update until the next test.

[SS454]

RB's quite extreme Sidepod.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMRE9DTX0AEzOOL.jpg

From above It pretty much looks the F1-75

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMREQ7xXMAQo5Am?format=jpg&name=large

That little cut in the floor (below the sensor stuck to the sidepod), I wonder if that is a vortex generator that curls inwards and downwards and seals the floor making the rear diffuser more efficient. Or maybe the vortex curls upwards and in and pushes aero between the rear tire, not only reducing drag but increasing the flow to the beam wing and top of the diffuser which increases downforce.

[PURE PASSION]

I would count on it. Day 1 testing is always about system checks, calibrations, checking for any mechanical issues. I doubt Ferrari will even have an aero update until the next test.

Hope you are right. And other years we use to say the same thing and in the end we didn't brought anything special. I'm a bit concerned because I see almost everybody else bringing different floors/wings etc from their launch spec and we are the same.

[alfaromeo]

Before Bahrain test Ferrari will have aerodynamic update..

[jgonzalesm6]

RB18's radical beamwing to include the rear diffuser.

https://twitter.com/MSM_Christian/status/1496404318215360512/photo/1

[JacKy]

Leclerc sets 1m21.178s. Omg guys its happening :rotfl

[Kyss4k]

OH MY GOD! What is that Red Bull?! How do they do that? They fight till the last race and yet they still came up with one of the freakiest solution to the new regs cars there is. Now I am worried.

[PURE PASSION]

Yep that REDBULL looks pretty scary. It's the most extreme Carano then ours. Hope our guys found something really special with our design :pray

[Kyss4k]

RB18's radical beamwing to include the rear diffuser.

https://twitter.com/MSM_Christian/status/1496404318215360512/photo/1

This is insane... Suddenly our car looks basic compared to this.

[SS454]

Hope you are right. And other years we use to say the same thing and in the end we didn't brought anything special. I'm a bit concerned because I see almost everybody else bringing different floors/wings etc from their launch spec and we are the same.

I think that's because a lot of the launch cars were only digital renders and effectively a fake. Ferrari was one of the few that launched a real car.

[tifosi1993]

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-4a43a8a1-ce64-48ff-84ef-d9606ec1df95.jpg

[Toothlessrage*]

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-4a43a8a1-ce64-48ff-84ef-d9606ec1df95.jpg

It looks STUNNING!
I just hope and pray Ferrari can come out fighting, given the RBRs aggressive approach.

[SS454]

I think Red Bull have come up with a triple diffuser.

https://i.imgur.com/gfSsv0g.jpg

[evil_cloud]

For the timming

https://directo.caranddriver.es/

[Kyss4k]

For the timming

https://directo.caranddriver.es/

Thanks. I would really love to know where they are getting the timing data from, when the official livetiming is not working.

[evil_cloud]

A guy in the pit is just updating them, like old times

[jgonzalesm6]

Sidepod angle between Mercedes vs Ferrari vs RedBull. RedBull's design the most radical.

https://twitter.com/CRASH_NET_F1/status/1496408855886147584/photo/1

[stefa]

Hat down to RB, if this car proves to be a winner. They fought till the last race and make something like this!?

[JacKy]

Thanks. I would really love to know where they are getting the timing data from, when the official livetiming is not working.

As far as i know , there is a Live timing at the track. So reporters from track manually reporting/editing it.

Here it is

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[speedmaster]

Does one have the rear view of ferrari?

[phsyklone]

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1496422992183808002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1496422992183808002%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fracingnews365.com%2Flive-barcelona-formula-1-pre-season-testing-day-1

[evil_cloud]

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[JacKy]

It is day one and already 1.20.xxx about the broken..

[paneristi]

https://youtu.be/nzFe1Ylh32s

[PURE PASSION]

Does one have the rear view of ferrari?
7956:-D:-D

[Grimlock]

Sigh, Alfa and Haas not doing too many laps ... so Ferrari are on their own collecting PU data once again.
Thankfully Charles is out there and racking up laps.

[stefa]

Common to all new cars is VERY ugly rims :-s

[dfunk257]

Common to all new cars is VERY ugly rims :-s

yes Stefa 100%, i have been thinking this the whole time. I thought they were going to have nice looking wheels, i really hope they get better before the season starts, but right now they are very ugly

[Grimlock]

Common to all new cars is VERY ugly rims :-s

Yeah, I think there a spec part? Correct me if I am wrong.

[speedmaster]

7956:-D:-D

Thank you

[PURE PASSION]

Thank you

Much better
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[burak karaküdük]

"I think the cars look good in the high-speed, the Mercedes and Ferrari cars are going flat through Turn 9 already, which is impressive considering they are carrying an extra 50 kilos this year. It shows the ground effect is working in the high speed, it looks like those are the two teams that have done more structured performance run plans - your typical slow-fast-slow type runs for lap time.
"That also justifies why they are the top of the timing sheets."

Palmer comments so far

[gump1480]

Apparently there is scope to change the underbody design of the sidepod as Ferrari has not completely packed their sidepods.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/ferrari-has-flexibility-to-adjust-its-unconventional-f1-75/

[dfunk257]

80 laps allready. Wow! Thats a good start

[Grimlock]

https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1496457748166455305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Elist%3Aracefansdotnet %3Aracefans_live_f1%7Ctwgr%5EeyJ0ZndfZXhwZXJpbWVud HNfY29va2llX2V4cGlyYXRpb24iOnsiYnVja2V0IjoxMjA5NjA wLCJ2ZXJzaW9uIjpudWxsfSwidGZ3X2hvcml6b25fdHdlZXRfZ W1iZWRfOTU1NSI6eyJidWNrZXQiOiJodGUiLCJ2ZXJzaW9uIjp udWxsfSwidGZ3X3NwYWNlX2NhcmQiOnsiYnVja2V0Ijoib2ZmI iwidmVyc2lvbiI6bnVsbH19%7Ctwcon%5Etimelinechrome&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.racefans.net%2Flive%2Ff1 %2F

Ugh, why are Ferrari customer teams so incompetent ...

[JacKy]

Sector times looks interesting guys;

Lec - 22.632 - 30.092 - 27.386
Nor - 22.564 - 30.212 - 27.698
Rus - 22.600 - 30.269 - 27.704

As we all know , sector 3 of Barcelona is a real reference point.

Eventhough these are not flat out flying laps, it is always good to be fast at sector 3.

[subfire91]

Sector times looks interesting guys;

Lec - 22.632 - 30.092 - 27.386
Nor - 22.564 - 30.212 - 27.698
Rus - 22.600 - 30.269 - 27.704

As we all know , sector 3 of Barcelona is a real reference point.

Eventhough these are not flat out flying laps, it is always good to be fast at sector 3.

what are each sector's characteristics ?

[JacKy]

what are each sector's characteristics ?

Sector 1 - Long straight , medium-high speed corners
Sector 2 - Medium-High speed corners
Sector 3 - Low speed corners.

Ferrari is usually a slow car at Sector 3 ( Last year , we were 3rd fastest team at sector 3 in qualy. We lost that pace in the race tho)

High Downforce circuit in general. Engine power not that important.

[burak karaküdük]

what are each sector's characteristics ?

first sector fast corners + main straight , middle sector high speed and medium speed and final sector is slow corners

[burak karaküdük]

Mark Hughes from trackside:

I'm at Turn 7/8 at bottom of the hill with the fast approach into the medium speed uphill corner and Charles Leclerc is super-aggressive and confident, pushing harder than anyone else here.

[subfire91]

Fastest in the main speed trap, located approaching Turn 1, during the morning was Williams driver Nicholas Latifi at 320.7km/h (199.2mph).

Tsunoda was second fastest for AlphaTauri at 319.0km/h (198.2mph) and Leclerc third for Ferrari at 318.8km/h (198.1mph). Slowest was Alonso's Alpine at 294.3km/h (182.9mph).

[JacKy]

Mark Hughes from trackside:

I'm at Turn 7/8 at bottom of the hill with the fast approach into the medium speed uphill corner and Charles Leclerc is super-aggressive and confident, pushing harder than anyone else here.

This is gotta be ultimate test for our concept. I mean all the rumors/analysis saying it is tend to generate more downforce than other concepts. :pray

[burak karaküdük]

https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FY0kwbWE1wUk%3AU_F VfKFz-bPLlD-_OHkyBOQkxP0&cuid=4058812

[burak karaküdük]

This is gotta be ultimate test for our concept. I mean all the rumors/analysis saying it is tend to generate more downforce than other concepts. :pray

i hope so my firend :)

[burak karaküdük]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0kwbWE1wUk&feature=youtu.be

[JacKy]

This is so stupid guys…

From what i’ve seen , cameras all around , journalist free to take as much as photos they want.. live timing works at the track aswell

So why the f*ck this is not being broadcasting ?

[Grimlock]

This is so stupid guys…

From what i’ve seen , cameras all around , journalist free to take as much as photos they want.. live timing works at the track aswell

So why the f*ck this is not being broadcasting ?

Yep very annoying, F1 TV dropped the ball hard here.

[dfunk257]

This is so stupid guys…

From what i’ve seen , cameras all around , journalist free to take as much as photos they want.. live timing works at the track aswell

So why the f*ck this is not being broadcasting ?

100% agree. 1st test of the new season?? stupid move F1

[Kyss4k]

This is so stupid guys…

From what i’ve seen , cameras all around , journalist free to take as much as photos they want.. live timing works at the track aswell

So why the f*ck this is not being broadcasting ?

Because Bahrain payed for it to be the first venue to show the new cars... probably.

[jgonzalesm6]

This is so stupid guys…

From what i’ve seen , cameras all around , journalist free to take as much as photos they want.. live timing works at the track aswell

So why the f*ck this is not being broadcasting ?


Yep very annoying, F1 TV dropped the ball hard here.


100% agree. 1st test of the new season?? stupid move F1


Because Bahrain payed for it to be the first venue to show the new cars... probably.

Because F1 considered Barcelona a shakedown test. Bahrain will be televised.

I'm with all of you on this matter. It's all BS to me really as to why the Barcelona tests are not being televised.

[tifosi1993]

https://i.imgur.com/mnaJbPM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bf6YbwT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lf8MlyX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yepocF7.jpg

[tifosi1993]

Few Titbits from the testing so far:

Ferrari and Mercedes looked to be only cars to take turn-9 flat out.

Charles was throwing the car around aggressively, aka he already has the confidence in the car. And Ferrari isn't even looking for quick times.

With 80 laps onboard, my overall feeling is quite positive. And as always, I'm going to ignore the lap times, even if we are ahead by 4-seconds!

[scudieros]

https://i.imgur.com/mnaJbPM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bf6YbwT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lf8MlyX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yepocF7.jpg

Just Wow :love

also she is reliable.

[WS6TransAm01]

Few Titbits from the testing so far:

Ferrari and Mercedes looked to be only cars to take turn-9 flat out.

Charles was throwing the car around aggressively, aka he already has the confidence in the car. And Ferrari isn't even looking for quick times.

With 80 laps onboard, my overall feeling is quite positive. And as always, I'm going to ignore the lap times, even if we are ahead by 4-seconds!

I dunno man... There have been so many tests where it all looks rosie only to show up to Q3 in P7

[stefa]

I dunno man... There have been so many tests where it all looks rosie only to show up to Q3 in P7

Sadly you are right. History thought me not to take this preseason tests seriously at all!

[Schumiklub]

What’s with Alfa and HAAS?! So little running for them. This is ridiculous.

[Gilles]

That undercut is unbelievable. Also look how big and far forward the tunnel strakes are. Teams are allowed 4, and Red Bull are using 2 as far forward as they can get. Surely this is to control the wake off the front tire as quickly as possible and then out wash it away from the undercut. Meanwhile the inner strake helps grab all that juicy air to feed to the undercut and down the body. Their floor appears appears to be the most genuine too, at least I hope so because they have all sorts of tricks going on.

Aerodynamically, this car scares me the most. But Newey has made some impressive designs before that struggled with cooling or other reliability issues.
I think we still have a chance, at least on high speed tracks :
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[tifosi1993]

Both Mercedes and Red Bull cars now have louvres.

Chatter in the paddock, both Ferrari and Mercedes look impressive out on track.

[paneristi]

https://youtu.be/0BEZhtwlryo

[PURE PASSION]

# F1 #FUnoAT # F1Testing Turn 7-8, quick change of direction. Observing the # FerrariF175 for a few laps during its long run, you can see a very precise car on the anti-hero under braking. In addition to the ease of entry, there is an excellent downforce that allows the note a handling that is too different from last season. It is also interesting to note how the Red, "listening" to the new engine, shows a good acceleration in output supported by an efficient hybrid system. Although the> quantity of petrol on board and the goodness of the mappings used, the Ferrari package seems really well assorted. We await more feedback tomorrow

[tifosi1993]

Was about to post it. Yup, the car looks good on track. And that's the most important thing. It's also showing good reliability.

[tifosi1993]

https://www.formule1.nl/app/uploads/2022/02/1019008032-LAT-20220223-F122T01_154728_X4I1388.jpg

[ferrari1.8t]

https://www.formule1.nl/app/uploads/2022/02/1019008032-LAT-20220223-F122T01_154728_X4I1388.jpg

My god she’s beautiful!

[tifosi1993]

153 laps done and no drama. Solid day for the Scuderia. :thumb

[PURE PASSION]

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[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMS_-n_XwAIMFil?format=jpg&name=orig

[phsyklone]

Is ferrari still running launch spec car ?

[PURE PASSION]

Is ferrari still running launch spec car ?
YES

[wisepie]

A promising day for the Scuderia but I've always been wary of putting much faith in any timings, it is a shakedown. And those wheels really spoil the look of the car, but I think it's part of the regs to have those ugly covers.

[paolo lalli]

As I said very early on ferrari will be on point from day one.The talk has already started hamilton praises car ferrari could be months ahead are the headlines,nice but one day at a time.

[Aziz]

As I said very early on ferrari will be on point from day one.The talk has already started hamilton praises car ferrari could be months ahead are the headlines,nice but one day at a time.

Yam praised our car?

[SS454]

Common to all new cars is VERY ugly rims :-s

100% agree. They look like steely winter wheels.

[FerrariF60]

100% agree. They look like steely winter wheels.

and we both would know as we live in Canada....got the same shitty steelies on my Crosstrek

[Tony]

Way too early for any speculation guys. I think the fastest lap at Barcelona was 1:16.7 last year. There's still a lot to come from all of these cars.

[nani_s23]

I don’t look at lap times, it’s way too early.

Positive sign is good reliability that too on Day-1. This testing is all about mileage & get the feel of the car.
It would have been good if Haas & Alfa R too circled many laps.

[JacKy]

I dont want to get excited but Leclercs last sector time is promising guys.

[ntukza]

I'm surprised at how good reliability was today across the field. Totally new regs, new cars, various different approaches and almost all teams have good reliability. Impressive.

[patrese86]

A good days work from us. Reliability top priority and it went without a hitch so all good.

[Gilles]

Not so surprised by the reliability demonstrated today. The main change from last year is aero, the mechanical part is an evolution from last year's layout, with even greater longevity to be achieved. During this first session, no one is pushing, and in low temperature conditions, even the cooling is not overly strained (which could be tricky for new packagings, especially for compacts ones). The goal now is to go deep to get data to check the correlation and validate things before updating the cars and pushing them into the next test. In this context, the best teams take advantage of the less prepared and increase their lead even further. I'm happy to see that Ferrari is showing a good level of preparation, they are smiling, it could be the indication that they are getting the results they were hoping for (even if it's only the first day). In the next test, we would see significant changes to the cars, with a first picture of each car's raw potential. I would love to see Mercedes show they could have followed a better concept and Red Bull struggle to make theirs work. But I probably dream a little

[Galvonero]

Not so surprised by the reliability demonstrated today. The main change from last year is aero, the mechanical part is an evolution from last year's layout, with even greater longevity to be achieved. During this first session, no one is pushing, and in low temperature conditions, even the cooling is not overly strained (which could be tricky for new packagings, especially for compacts ones). The goal now is to go deep to get data to check the correlation and validate things before updating the cars and pushing them into the next test. In this context, the best teams take advantage of the less prepared and increase their lead even further. I'm happy to see that Ferrari is showing a good level of preparation, they are smiling, it could be the indication that they are getting the results they were hoping for (even if it's only the first day). In the next test, we would see significant changes to the cars, with a first picture of each car's raw potential. I would love to see Mercedes show they could have followed a better concept and Red Bull struggle to make theirs work. But I probably dream a little

One can always dream...

[From Treviso]

Noticed there's very little on-track analysis from experts - what gives? There's next to no breakdown of how the cars went in the 3 sectors, how they rode the curbs, how planted and stable they look, or if the drivers were fighting with the wheel to maintain control. With so much potential grip from the rear, is there now sufficient frontal downforce to avoid understeer? Cheers

[330 p4]

Noticed there's very little on-track analysis from experts - what gives? There's next to no breakdown of how the cars went in the 3 sectors, how they rode the curbs, how planted and stable they look, or if the drivers were fighting with the wheel to maintain control. With so much potential grip from the rear, is there now sufficient frontal downforce to avoid understeer? Cheers

Only report I saw was that in the slow chicanery fastest cars today were so much slower than the slowest cars last year. Reason given was lack of front end leading to understeer at slow speeds. Also suspensions are much more simple this year and are stiffer so cannot ride the Kerbs plus will give traction issues at low speed, plus cars much heavier. Expected similar laptimes but very slow in mid to slow turns making up for it on the straights and fast corners when ground effect is at it's best.

[From Treviso]

"Also suspensions are much more simple this year and are stiffer so cannot ride the Kerbs" - no, the tyres are stiffer due to the very low profile, which now means that the suspension has to be softly sprung and to have more compliance. Note that there's more unsprung weight due to the larger rims, which means some added stiffness to the suspension is required to counteract the extra mass when hitting bumps and kerbs - but overall, still much softer than when with the fat tyres of the past.

[Tony]

Does Alfa Romeo have a similar design to the red bull? They look to have very aggressive sidepods and a fairly interesting floor design...

[paneristi]

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/db47f2ba6ed1aeb51b2b4c49536d3ab62b006142b3918b58a9 21fac83dfa4a10.jpg

[ntukza]

Why wait until next test to bring updates? Do teams need the full 3 days to do correlation work? I would think 1 or 1.5 days are enough, and that the sooner you can get closer to your race spec the more time you have to evaluate it and test things like tyre wear as well.

[SS454]

Why wait until next test to bring updates? Do teams need the full 3 days to do correlation work? I would think 1 or 1.5 days are enough, and that the sooner you can get closer to your race spec the more time you have to evaluate it and test things like tyre wear as well.

I am sure most of us underestimate what goes into testing a brand new car on brand new tires.

Obvious system and reliability checks.
Does the actual aero correlate with the wind tunnel data?
Driveability
Balance
Fuel usage
Tire wear
Ride height affects
Floor wear
Effects of changing front wing flap (through all the adjustments)
Setup changes
Long run pace
consistency
outright pace
estimated wear on PU, gearbox, etc
temperatures

3 days isn't a lot of time to test things. Getting the best understanding of the tires will far outweigh any updates the team has to bring. Who knows if updates are even designed yet, let alone built.

[speedmaster]

On top this one need to understand what works and doesn't work on current car and then design a fix for that part and fabricate them which is a long process, so I think we'll not see any updates in this test.

[scudieros]

Worthwhile looking at others and see what ideas they have come up with then try those in CFD for your car and eventually produce an upgrade. At this moment everything is unknown except maybe engine horsepower, and performance in sectors.

Good to see that mclaren with a similar fat body design to ours is can be a decent car.
We are still faster in sector 3 which is very promising.

[PURE PASSION]

Is it front axle aero test day ,today???!!!:-D:-D

[jgonzalesm6]

Day 2 and Alfa is still having issues this morning. ffs!!!!

[patrese86]

If we are looking slightly into some performance then yes S3 was encouraging especially as Vettel said they are like tanks round slow corners. Also we were 5kph quicker on the straight than last year despite running the engine in a very conservative mode. But we know these cars are much quicker in straight lines now so maybe also hard to read

[dfunk257]

Every year, its the Toto and Lewis show, talking up our chances and tellin the media crap about how strong we are going to be, makes me sick!

[jgonzalesm6]

"Porpoising - it’s the buzzword at the start of this new rules era. Effectively the cars rock or bounce up and down as the air attaches and reattached itself when they approach Vmax. Like yesterday, it’s Hamilton who appears to be suffering most with it this morning. The Merc is wallowing even before the 400m board on the run to Turn 1. You can here the revs rise and fall in sync as the W13 is unsettled. Looks a touch violent

Source:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/live-text/f1-barcelona-pre-season-test-day-2/1112972/

[Nick Singer]

Every year, its the Toto and Lewis show, talking up our chances and tellin the media crap about how strong we are going to be, makes me sick!

If Mercedes have a mare of a season, that would be very, very sweet!

[jgonzalesm6]

F1 statement on Russian Grand Prix in the context of the invasion of Ukraine: "F1 is closely watching the very fluid developments like many others and at this time has no further comment on the race scheduled for September. We will continue to monitor the situation very closely."

[Ferrarichamp]

looking at the top 5 or 6 teams, I have a feeling Alpine will be quite slow.
Other than that, it's difficult to make predictions.

[tpe]

If you want predictions:
I would pay a hell of lot attention to McLaren

[farid-baku]

Ferrar max speed 323 km/h is this real? Last year it was 318?

[dfunk257]

Ferrar max speed 323 km/h is this real? Last year it was 318?

its only 2nd day of testing, does that answer your question?

[PURE PASSION]

Matt Kew
13:21 "Hamilton isn’t getting on too well with this new set of C3 Pirellis. On his out lap there was a big lock up from the front-left into Turn 10, then again next time around. And for good measure, he then locked the front right at Turn 13 so it didn’t feel left out. Then, the Merc has come round again and aborted Turn 13 altogether. Perhaps there’s been a lot of tweaking to the set-up to try and combat the W13’s penchant for porpoising. Either way, it looks unwieldy."

Merc looks to have some issues. But we will have to wait because it reminds me of '19 ,where they also had issues in the 1st test and then they fixed everything on the 2nd and took pole/win on the 1st race!!!!!
We looks quite healthy with a lot of laps without problems running our program like a clock!!!!
Hope we don't jinx it again!!!!

[Forza Rosso]

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[Ferrari312T4]

7960

That's quite some wire noodles in our sidepod. Do they tidy that up or is that on purpose for a reason?

[dfunk257]

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Whats with all the scratch marks on the body work?

[scudieros]

does anybody know at what lap in the stint did Charles and Carlos post their fastest times, was it a single fast lap or a stint?

[speedmaster]

I think Charles did at the end of 15 lap stint.

[scudieros]

I think Charles did at the end of 15 lap stint.

Thanks, that is good news.

[WS6TransAm01]

F1 statement on Russian Grand Prix in the context of the invasion of Ukraine: "F1 is closely watching the very fluid developments like many others and at this time has no further comment on the race scheduled for September. We will continue to monitor the situation very closely."

What is their to monitor? Moskali are attacking a sovereign nation. What else do you have to monitor? I swear the FIA are a bunch of [NATO designation for a MiG15]s


Merc looks to have some issues. But we will have to wait because it reminds me of '19 ,where they also had issues in the 1st test and then they fixed everything on the 2nd and took pole/win on the 1st race!!!!!
We looks quite healthy with a lot of laps without problems running our program like a clock!!!!
Hope we don't jinx it again!!!!

Merc always plays possum in winter testing. Nothing new.

[Riccardog]

F1 statement on Russian Grand Prix in the context of the invasion of Ukraine: "F1 is closely watching the very fluid developments like many others and at this time has no further comment on the race scheduled for September. We will continue to monitor the situation very closely."

F1 is a joke where it comes to Certain issues... blm before country sovereignty, lgbt before women's rights ... see the logic... :furious

if the russian gp goes ahead, I will close my chapter on Formula one viewing.

[jgonzalesm6]

What is their to monitor? Moskali are attacking a sovereign nation. What else do you have to monitor? I swear the FIA are a bunch of [NATO designation for a MiG15]s





HAAS looks to be affected by what's happening with Russia(Uralkali).

[aroutis]

Every year, its the Toto and Lewis show, talking up our chances and tellin the media crap about how strong we are going to be, makes me sick!
Word of advice.
Just pay attention to what the team does. Toto and Lulu are irrelevant.

[WS6TransAm01]

F1 is a joke where it comes to Certain issues... blm before country sovereignty, lgbt before women's rights ... see the logic... :furious

if the russian gp goes ahead, I will close my chapter on Formula one viewing.

Bingo. They kneel for a Marxist quasi-terrorist organization responsible for $2B in damage and over 20 people dead in the US alone but "monitor" a nation starting an unprovoked war. They throw up pride flags everywhere but race in countries where being gay is illegal.


HAAS looks to be affected by what's happening with Russia(Uralkali).

Meh...

Gene Haas:

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[PURE PASSION]

Haas was not alone in his worries. Alfa Romeo, Williams, Aston Martin, Alpine and Mercedes also touched down and rocked on the home straight. Ferrari and McLaren were least affected. Factors such as ground clearance and suspension travel play a role in the phenomenon.
"We still have a lot to learn about the setup," confirms Haas team boss Guenther Steiner. "We're looking for the happy medium. Not too low so that the car doesn't touch down, but not too high either so that too much downforce is lost." Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff sums it up: "The key to fast laps is to drive as low as possible and still have the problem of bouncing under control. Ferrari and McLaren are currently the best at it."

[FerrariF60]

sounds good, but coming from Toto, i dont trust him as far as i can throw him

[Nick Singer]

Bingo. They kneel for a Marxist quasi-terrorist organization responsible for $2B in damage and over 20 people dead in the US alone but "monitor" a nation starting an unprovoked war. They throw up pride flags everywhere but race in countries where being gay is illegal.



Meh...

Gene Haas:

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Well said. Let's see how Sir Lewis of Hamilton deals with this one. As least Seb has said his piece..

[Kyss4k]

I am awaiting news about cancelation of Russia GP any day. If not, I am canceling my F1 subscription. Sure, I am just 1 guy, so they won't even notice that, but that's all I can do.

[Gilles]

If you want predictions:
I would pay a hell of lot attention to McLaren

Sorry but not so evident for me : they still have a wind tunnel not at the best level, even if they have clever people, it would be hard for them to do miracles with it

[WS6TransAm01]

Well said. Let's see how Sir Lewis of Hamilton deals with this one. As least Seb has said his piece..

What did Seb say?

[Kyss4k]

What did Seb say?

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vettel-i-wont-race-in-the-russian-gp-after-ukraine-invasion/8458166/

[WS6TransAm01]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vettel-i-wont-race-in-the-russian-gp-after-ukraine-invasion/8458166/

Good on Seb. Doing the right thing isn't always pleasant.

[Riccardog]

Good on Seb. Doing the right thing isn't always pleasant.

Uefa set to move Champions League final away from Russia
and
Verstappen doesn't want a Grand Prix in Russia: 'Not right to race there'

hopefully our drivers will voice an opinion too....

[scudieros]

Mattia talks about porpoising

https://the-race.com/formula-1/teams-underestimated-f1-2022s-porpoising-problem-ferrari/

[patrese86]

Leclerc now goes quickest. Outlets quick to tell us it's still slower than Norris time yesterday but left out which compound Lando set his time on and how old his tyres were..

[Nick Singer]

We all know that you can be super quick in testing and have a poor season and vice versa.. at least our car is both quick out of the box and reliable so far.

I'm sure both Mercedes and RB will soon be up to speed but promising signs for the Scuderia...

[PURE PASSION]

Leclerc now goes quickest. Outlets quick to tell us it's still slower than Norris time yesterday but left out which compound Lando set his time on and how old his tyres were..

Norris did it on C4 yesterday, Lec is on C3. Don't know in what stints they did it.

[patrese86]

Norris did it on C4 yesterday, Lec is on C3. Don't know in what stints they did it.

Yeah I know. Just always feel like they are quick to knock us down a peg or two but omit information at the other end to suit their agenda.

[Hornet]

I am awaiting news about cancelation of Russia GP any day. If not, I am canceling my F1 subscription. Sure, I am just 1 guy, so they won't even notice that, but that's all I can do.

I don't see anyone in F1 would intentionally go to a country that's waging war, and being openly hostile and threatening.
I'd imagine all teams would boycott if the sport insist to proceed there.

[WS6TransAm01]

I don't see anyone in F1 would intentionally go to a country that's waging war, and being openly hostile and threatening.
I'd imagine all teams would boycott if the sport insist to proceed there.

They go to China don't they? They have been threatening to invade Taiwan for decades and look what they did to Hong Kong...

F1 intentionally goes to terrible countries all the time. Do you want to peruse the list of human rights violations in Qatar? Didn't stop F1. Hypocrisy is the #1 rule of F1

[Nick Singer]

They go to China don't they? They have been threatening to invade Taiwan for decades and look what they did to Hong Kong...

F1 intentionally goes to terrible countries all the time. Do you want to peruse the list of human rights violations in Qatar? Didn't stop F1. Hypocrisy is the #1 rule of F1

Qatar - the 'front' for Islamist terror groups, Saudi Arabia - well, need I say more? China, as you say! Still, money talks.

After all Sir Lewis Hamilton's particular virtue-signalling, odd he has nothing to say about these countries! We await his thoughts on Russia's invasion of Ukraine with interest..

[stefa]

Qatar - the 'front' for Islamist terror groups, Saudi Arabia - well, need I say more? China, as you say! Still, money talks.

After all Sir Lewis Hamilton's particular virtue-signalling, odd he has nothing to say about these countries! We await his thoughts on Russia's invasion of Ukraine with interest..

Hypocrite

[jgonzalesm6]

I don't see anyone in F1 would intentionally go to a country that's waging war, and being openly hostile and threatening.
I'd imagine all teams would boycott if the sport insist to proceed there.


They go to China don't they? They have been threatening to invade Taiwan for decades and look what they did to Hong Kong...

F1 intentionally goes to terrible countries all the time. Do you want to peruse the list of human rights violations in Qatar? Didn't stop F1. Hypocrisy is the #1 rule of F1


Qatar - the 'front' for Islamist terror groups, Saudi Arabia - well, need I say more? China, as you say! Still, money talks.

After all Sir Lewis Hamilton's particular virtue-signalling, odd he has nothing to say about these countries! We await his thoughts on Russia's invasion of Ukraine with interest..
The FIA will hold a meeting tonight with the teams to discuss the RussianGP.

[tifosi1993]

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[JacKy]

Another strong performance at sector 3 from Leclerc.

I’m telling you guys , this is only thing i am looking up to. Looks very promising.

[tifosi1993]

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[Tony]

Guys it's enough!

[wisepie]

C'mon boys, this is the pre-season testing thread, not a political free for all, Ferrari on top is a great morale-booster and I know it's only testing but let's not have WW3 discussions on here just yet.:roll

[SS454]

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I agree that the testing thread should not be the place for political or world event discussion.

But leave it to you to bring up your discrimination and hate against Americans. Interesting you ignore anyone else's input on the subject as long as they don't reside from the USA.

[SS454]

Back on topic, it will be interesting what teams do to counter the porpoising effect. Ideally a team will find a way to bleed off the load at max speed, but not sure how to legally do that. Stiffer spring rates will make the already super stiff cars unforgiving, and raising the ride heights could significantly reduce performance in every corner.

[Tifoso]

https://www.formule1.nl/app/uploads/2022/02/1019008512-LAT-20220224-F122T01_103938_1ST4627.jpg
https://www.formule1.nl/app/uploads/2022/02/1019008659-LAT-20220224-F122T01_114546_X4I3382.jpg
https://www.formule1.nl/app/uploads/2022/02/1019008961-LAT-20220224-F122T01_151159_56I5819.jpg
What a beautiful car! Thanks fratello!

[330 p4]

"Also suspensions are much more simple this year and are stiffer so cannot ride the Kerbs" - no, the tyres are stiffer due to the very low profile, which now means that the suspension has to be softly sprung and to have more compliance. Note that there's more unsprung weight due to the larger rims, which means some added stiffness to the suspension is required to counteract the extra mass when hitting bumps and kerbs - but overall, still much softer than when with the fat tyres of the past.
I see it that you need stiffer suspension to keep consistent ride height. Many articles around stating suspensions this year are super stiff compared to last year. With ground effects suspensions used to be much harder, apparently in 1979 Ligier had springs at 4000ibs per sq inch.

[Tifoso]

Mattia talks about porpoising

https://the-race.com/formula-1/teams-underestimated-f1-2022s-porpoising-problem-ferrari/
Grazie for the link, fratello!

[SilverSpeed]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=478548247093802&extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-AN_GK0T-GK1C&ref=sharing

Dat bouncing howly shizzle.

[Tony]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=478548247093802&extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-AN_GK0T-GK1C&ref=sharing

Dat bouncing howly shizzle.

And apparently Ferrari and McLaren both suffered the least from this phenomenon... it must be hell to drive the RB or the Mercedes lol...

[Tifoso Svedese]

I'm going to be optimistic and say that we'll be within 0.3 seconds/lap in race trim in Bahrain. I refuse to believe we're quickest though since the stopwatch seems to be hitting a time warp whenever Mercedes do a flying lap. Even in 2019 I was very skeptical.

[Tifoso]

I'm going to be optimistic and say that we'll be within 0.3 seconds/lap in race trim in Bahrain. I refuse to believe we're quickest though since the stopwatch seems to be hitting a time warp whenever Mercedes do a flying lap. Even in 2019 I was very skeptical.

I get that, but….
when we’re slow, we’re sandbagging.
When we’re quick, it can’t be real.
Dunno…

[SS454]

I see it that you need stiffer suspension to keep consistent ride height. Many articles around stating suspensions this year are super stiff compared to last year. With ground effects suspensions used to be much harder, apparently in 1979 Ligier had springs at 4000ibs per sq inch.

Unfortunately the 18 inch wheel tires of 2022 do not offer the same dampening effects as the 13" wheel tires.

[WS6TransAm01]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=478548247093802&extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-AN_GK0T-GK1C&ref=sharing

Dat bouncing howly shizzle.


And apparently Ferrari and McLaren both suffered the least from this phenomenon... it must be hell to drive the RB or the Mercedes lol...

If that is what "least" looks like... holy hell. What does the "most" look like?

[Forza SF]

(I google translated some paragraphs of an article about the stability and mechanical grip of the F1-75)

The first stretch to be analyzed is the one between Turns 7 and 8. We are talking about a quick change of direction left-right that usually made it difficult for older generation cars that were not perfectly balanced.
Observing the Ferrari F1-75 for a few laps in this specific section, during its long run, it was possible to notice a very precise car on the front and under braking. In addition to the ease of entering the corners, it was found that the body-machine is able to generate an excellent downforce that allowed the two standard bearers of the Scuderia to bring a lot of speed to this portion of the track.

Carlos Sainz, compared to Charles Leclerc, tended to enter the two folds with a slightly higher speed and then slide the car. A characteristic, this, peculiar to his style and that he used with old school cars. It is found that the same thing happens with the new single-seaters.

Trying to make a first general assessment, in these 'next gen' cars, handling that was then too different from last season was not appreciated. Furthermore, it is interesting to see how the Red, “listening” to the new engine, shows a good acceleration in output supported by an efficient hybrid system.

Another crucial sector, perhaps the one that at times was a bugbear for Ferrari, is the third. The most driven section of the circuit where, usually, the tires suffer. It is an area, the one between Curve 10 and Curve 16, in which aerodynamics matters less given the relatively low travel speeds.

It is the mechanical balance that takes the chair in this part of the track. As well as the ability to effectively unload the power of the Prancing Horse's turbo-hybrid V6. Well, even in the dreaded T3, the results are apparently positive. We apparently emphasize why the elements for making a complete assessment are still few and superficial.

In any case, the F1-75 showed overall good behavior in an area of ​​the Spanish plant where even the Mercedes W13, especially with George Russell in the morning, gave good visual indications. Hamilton, in the afternoon session, showed a pointed motion front and a slightly swinging rear end. A characteristic that is often observed in the driving of the seven-time world champion.

[Gilles]

Sad day, you all know why. Perhaps the turning point for a long and sad period. Can we still find happiness with this good start from Ferrari? This competition inevitably seems a bit futile right now, given so many misfortunes. So goes the world. I still love SF, Charles and PEACE (for everybody)

[Vittorio]

I am awaiting news about cancelation of Russia GP any day. If not, I am canceling my F1 subscription. Sure, I am just 1 guy, so they won't even notice that, but that's all I can do.

Oh, really, Goody for you. Nothing like good ol' virtue signalling, huh? ;-)

I just need to ask something: did you also boycott Formula 1 when it chose to race in Saudi Arabia, a country with the world's worst human rights record and which has caused genocide and the biggest humanitarian crisis in living memory with its (Western-backed) bombardment of Yemen?

Did you?

Hmmm, I bet you didn't. Am I right, snookums?

I don't mind anyone exerting their political views but nothing irritates more than the sheer hypocrisy of F1 fans clutching at their pearls about the Russian GP and yet blissfully turning a blind eye to Grand Prix hosted in vile countries like Saudi Arabia and Bahrain.

Oh, and don't get me started on the biggest warmongering nation of them all, the United States of America, not to mention its fellow warmongering little poodle, the UK.

So, should we boycott Austin, Miami and Silverstone as well, yeah?

Nice to pick and choose your causes, isn't it?

[Vittorio]

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[Vittorio]

I don't see anyone in F1 would intentionally go to a country that's waging war, and being openly hostile and threatening.
I'd imagine all teams would boycott if the sport insist to proceed there.

A fair point, if you believe it.

However, with your logic we should therefore not be attending the Grand Prix at Austin, Miami, Silverstone, Jeddah, Bahrain, and all the others that have appalling human rights records and/or had their countries wage illegal wars and have invaded the sovereignty of other nations, often with many thousands killed and millions displaced.

You can't pick and choose your morality, I'm afraid. One has to be consistent, you know. Otherwise it just reeks of hypocrisy.

[Gilles]

Please friends don't fight here, the pain has been worldwide if you look at history. Everyone can feel empathy, and should feel it in all circumstances. I don't want to judge or to give lessons, but let's just be honest with ourselves, please

[paolo lalli]

RUSSIAN GP TO BE REMOVED NO IFS NO BUTS,SCREW PUTIN THAT MANIAC AND HIS PUPPETS THAT FOLLOW. I FEEL FOR THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE WHO WILL BE PLUNGED INTO THE ARMS OF POVERTY FOR A VERY LONG TIME TO COME.

[Vittorio]

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[ferrari1.8t]

Guys, the threads are going to get locked out. Lets keep this about testing and most importantly about Ferrari.

[Vittorio]

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[patrese86]

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[Tony]

Holy crap, can you guys stop, this is the testing thread.....

[paolo lalli]

Ok back to the testing thread.Ferrari look solid.

[Tony]

That purpoising seems to have gotten worse for Ferrari today after they changed the suspension setup... it seems Binotto is also the most worried about this phenomenon... or others are just playing their cards close to their chest...

[speedmaster]

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1496888665431326726?s=20&t=2n8TAVaAJczzGPHGu531CA

Imagine this in Monza :-E

[ntukza]

I am sure most of us underestimate what goes into testing a brand new car on brand new tires.

Obvious system and reliability checks.
Does the actual aero correlate with the wind tunnel data?
Driveability
Balance
Fuel usage
Tire wear
Ride height affects
Floor wear
Effects of changing front wing flap (through all the adjustments)
Setup changes
Long run pace
consistency
outright pace
estimated wear on PU, gearbox, etc
temperatures

3 days isn't a lot of time to test things. Getting the best understanding of the tires will far outweigh any updates the team has to bring. Who knows if updates are even designed yet, let alone built.


On top this one need to understand what works and doesn't work on current car and then design a fix for that part and fabricate them which is a long process, so I think we'll not see any updates in this test.

Good points. Thanks!

[ntukza]

If Mercedes have a mare of a season, that would be very, very sweet!

After their dismal testing last season and then going on to dominate with RB, I'm not getting my hopes up.

[ntukza]

Merc looks to have some issues. But we will have to wait because it reminds me of '19 ,where they also had issues in the 1st test and then they fixed everything on the 2nd and took pole/win on the 1st race!!!!!
We looks quite healthy with a lot of laps without problems running our program like a clock!!!!
Hope we don't jinx it again!!!!

Nevermind '19. Think last season when they struggled in all the tests and then went on to clinch the constructors.

[jgonzalesm6]

HAAS have dropped the Uralkali sponsorship logos on its cars and trucks....to include the livery colors as well.

The VF-22 will run in plain white for day 3 of testing.

[jgonzalesm6]

Day 3 of testing-->after the lunch break, track officials will wet the track for wet tire testing.

[PURE PASSION]

#F1: Who has the fastest and best sorted car so far? In the paddock they say Ferrari. But it's early days... #AMuS

[paolo lalli]

If you are on top of your game at the start,regardless of early days it demonstrates that you have done some good homework. I believe ferrari has achieved the above.

[Nick Singer]

Hypocrite

:-E

Who?

[stefa]

:-E

Who?

Sorry for not being specific. Of course LH. The Clown!

[Aziz]

Sorry for not being specific. Of course LH. The Clown!

What did he said now?

[stefa]

What did he said now?

Post #133, #134

[speedmaster]

Why Ferrari has done only 18 laps? Any issues?

[Aziz]

Why Ferrari has done only 18 laps? Any issues?

probably, Hass has some kind of leakage

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari is trying out a new floor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMbzU-uXMAIJ5FX?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMbzU-rXMAAMWpK?format=jpg&name=medium

[stefa]

CL back on track, putting some laps

[JacKy]

Merc and Rb’s fastest laps quite smilar to Ferrari and Mclaren’s laps.

4 way title fight would be epic.

[evil_cloud]

Sometimes the live streaming is active

https://www.twitch.tv/fastestbirdwatching2

[Ferrarichamp]

Merc and Rb’s fastest laps quite smilar to Ferrari and Mclaren’s laps.

4 way title fight would be epic.

I'd prefer a two way fight between Charles and Carlos :-D

[Aziz]

Merc and Rb’s fastest laps quite smilar to Ferrari and Mclaren’s laps.

4 way title fight would be epic.

Merc did the fastest lap on C4, we did it on C3 on step harder tire

[Gilles]

Ferrari is trying out a new floor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMbzU-uXMAIJ5FX?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMbzU-rXMAAMWpK?format=jpg&name=medium

We were expecting it, not surprising it comes on last day, thanks

[ferrari1.8t]

Merc and Rb’s fastest laps quite smilar to Ferrari and Mclaren’s laps.

4 way title fight would be epic.

I hope Merc never wins another race ever again.

[paneristi]

I'd prefer a two way fight between Charles and Carlos :-D +1

[gump1480]

I hope Merc never wins another race ever again.

Amen

[tifosi1993]

44 laps done, a bit less that usual. Probably got caught out by 5 red flags.

[scudieros]

44 laps done, a bit less that usual. Probably got caught out by 5 red flags.

did they start with the new floor or change it this morning? if so that might also explain the low count.

new floor might be to stop the porpoising?

[PURE PASSION]

Mattia Binotto tells me Ferrari’s F1-75 won’t change that much for Bahrain, where they will focus on chasing performance after an encouraging start in terms of reliability and mileage in Barcelona. #F1
From Lawrence Barreto

[Tony]

Is that modification to the floor being held together with duct tape lol?

[tifosi1993]

The F1-75 is already race ready. I don't think Ferrari needs to bolt new parts on the car for the sake of bolting new parts.

[Nick Singer]

Sorry for not being specific. Of course LH. The Clown!

Phew!

[Nick Singer]

Is that modification to the floor being held together with duct tape lol?

Good value in LIDL!

[scudieros]

Is that modification to the floor being held together with duct tape lol?

That's not just any duct tape...it's F1 grade (or M&S)

[cisco82]

Hey everyone , what do you guys think they're blowing onto the floor with these two holes?

[cisco82]

Hey everyone , what do you guys think they're blowing onto the floor with those two holes?

[ntukza]

Another strong performance at sector 3 from Leclerc.

I’m telling you guys , this is only thing i am looking up to. Looks very promising.

What's the big deal with sector 3?

[ntukza]

I get that, but….
when we’re slow, we’re sandbagging.
When we’re quick, it can’t be real.
Dunno…

According to recent pre-season tests:
When we're slow, we're slow;
When we're quick, we're slow.

[samboozik]

Hey everyone , what do you guys think they're blowing onto the floor with those two holes?

It is more like blowing out of the floor, this modification is to deal with the porpoising effect.

[stefa]

Phew!

:thumb

[ntukza]

It is more like blowing out of the floor, this modification is to deal with the porpoising effect.

Has there been any feedback on the performance of the new floor?

[cisco82]

Ferrari is trying out a new floor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMbzU-uXMAIJ5FX?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMbzU-rXMAAMWpK?format=jpg&name=medium


Sorry I didn't explain myself properly , I meant the two holes between the NGK and Brembo stickers..

[samboozik]

Has there been any feedback on the performance of the new floor?

No source talked about it yet but there seems to be other modifications as well

7962

Don't know if they're for the same purpose

[ntukza]

No source talked about it yet but there seems to be other modifications as well

7962

Don't know if they're for the same purpose

Okay thanks.

[tifosi1993]

Sorry I didn't explain myself properly , I meant the two holes between the NGK and Brembo stickers..

Could be anything. But I think it's a temporary placeholder for the tyre temperature monitoring sensor.

[tifosi1993]

Binotto:


"Satisfied is the right word. We are gathering a lot of data, the car is behaving well, especially compared to how we designed it. We are satisfied, despite there is still a lot to learn."

Now that's what I wanted to hear. Binotto doesn't play around with words, his assessments are always on point. Him being satisfied is an extremely positive sign.

[ntukza]

So AMR, Haas, Alpine, and to some extent Alfa Romeo and Red Bull all encountering reliability issues. It's so good to not be on that list. Decent start. Hopefully we will make some improvements before Bahrain and solve the porpoising issue.

[ntukza]

Binotto:



Now that's what I wanted to hear. Binotto doesn't play around with words, his assessments are always on point. Him being satisfied is an extremely positive sign.

Good to hear indeed.

Apparently he also said there won't be any evolutionary changes to the car before Bahrain, and that performance runs will be the focus in the next test.

[scudieros]

This is an article about the Ferrari floor update, it is in Italian, google translate should help.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-f1-75-funziona-il-nuovo-fondo-nella-lotta-al-porpoising/8491282/

[ferrari1.8t]

This is an article about the Ferrari floor update, it is in Italian, google translate should help.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-f1-75-funziona-il-nuovo-fondo-nella-lotta-al-porpoising/8491282/

Fantastic to see Binotto and the team reacting so quickly to try and find solutions to the problem! I hope a fix can be found that doesn't interfere with our overall laptime/performance.

[Gilles]

No source talked about it yet but there seems to be other modifications as well

7962

Don't know if they're for the same purpose

Is there a vortex of air (or water) preventing the flow from touching the rear wheel? (a bit like Vana's study showed)

[JacKy]

What's the big deal with sector 3?

It is a great area to test Car’s mechanical ability. Hungary’s last sector is pretty much same.

Combining sector 2&3 can be a reliable sign for tracks like Monaco , Hungary , Silverstone , Singapore.

So you can be competitive at most of the tracks with enough Powered engine if you fast at spain.

[Nick Singer]

I see Sir Lewis Hamilton has banged in a glory run 1.19.1 to, I suspect, top the timing sheets this week. On the C4 but still it shows intent.

No way are the Mercs going to struggle this season. Just hope that - for once - we can give them a good kicking.

[Tifoso]

How long was he out after that run, ie, was it on fumes?

[ferrari1.8t]

I see Sir Lewis Hamilton has banged in a glory run 1.19.1 to, I suspect, top the timing sheets this week. On the C4 but still it shows intent.

No way are the Mercs going to struggle this season. Just hope that - for once - we can give them a good kicking.

From Motorpsort.com:

2:53 Hamilton takes 0.003s out of his time to set a 1m19.138s - on C5s.

13:00 It looked as thought Hamilton was going to end the session with another fastest lap - but he backed off massively! What a tease...

God I hope they do not win another race. 8 years of dominance wasn't enough? :furious

[Tifoso]

Fantastic to see Binotto and the team reacting so quickly to try and find solutions to the problem! I hope a fix can be found that doesn't interfere with our overall laptime/performance.

Seems that they anticipated ( or reacted very, very quickly :-E ) to the problem. Things finally seem to falling into place for le rosse. :wine

[Nick Singer]

How long was he out after that run, ie, was it on fumes?

No idea. He was on an even faster lap but backed out. Mercs the two fastest times of the week, albeit both on C5 (softest?) tyres.

LEC on C3s managed 1.19.7 yesterday so not too shabby!

Think we've probably aced the total number of laps for the test so great for data etc.

Roll on Bahrain test on March 10th!

[ferrari1.8t]

Seems that they anticipated ( or reacted very, very quickly :-E ) to the problem. Things finally seem to falling into place for le rosse. :wine

Definitely! I can't remember a time when they reacted so quickly! :thumb

[Tony]

Seems that they anticipated ( or reacted very, very quickly :-E ) to the problem. Things finally seem to falling into place for le rosse. :wine

Ableit it with duct tape :rotfl

[Tony]

Is there a vortex of air (or water) preventing the flow from touching the rear wheel? (a bit like Vana's study showed)

Seems that way, the purpose of those large sidepods are apparently to prevent too much turbulent air from hitting the rear tyres. Hopefully that's what the purpose is and Ferrari ends up with significantly less tyre wear than the others! I can't remeber if it was Scarbs or Kyle Engineer that said that.

[patrese86]

I take that lap from Hamilton at the end as a good sign. They are rattled.

[samboozik]

Is there a vortex of air (or water) preventing the flow from touching the rear wheel? (a bit like Vana's study showed)

7964

judging by the direction of water in this picture, it seems that there is one.

[FerrariF60]

From Motorpsort.com:

2:53 Hamilton takes 0.003s out of his time to set a 1m19.138s - on C5s.

13:00 It looked as thought Hamilton was going to end the session with another fastest lap - but he backed off massively! What a tease...

God I hope they do not win another race. 8 years of dominance wasn't enough? :furious

Nobody knows where everyone else is standing....1:19...is nothing to write home about when pole last year was into 1:16’s

I’m not usually optimistic....I’m more of a pessimist especially since year over year we get hyped up about Ferrari winter performance only to fall flat on our faces come Q3 in the first race

But this year something tells me Ferrari have built a BEAST....time will tell

[wisepie]

I see Sir Lewis Hamilton has banged in a glory run 1.19.1 to, I suspect, top the timing sheets this week. On the C4 but still it shows intent.

No way are the Mercs going to struggle this season. Just hope that - for once - we can give them a good kicking.

Nothing would please me more, and at least there are positive signs and the porpoise effect is already being challenged. The two Charlies have had a good few days, let's pray that Bahrain will confirm Ferrari's serious intent!

[paolo lalli]

Mercedes don't have a lot left up there sleeve currently.Ferrari has a beast of an engine and have plenty up there sleeve my feeling they are top of the pile currently,lots of laps lots of info no issues,all bodes well.Mclaren a close second.

[PURE PASSION]

Mercedes don't have a lot left up there sleeve currently.Ferrari has a beast of an engine and have plenty up there sleeve my feeling they are top of the pile currently,lots of laps lots of info no issues,all bodes well.Mclaren a close second.

Although I would love to confirm this , right now it's impossible!!! Everyone just doing their work and none knows what exactly it is !!! So you can't know who has how much on his sleeve and what else he can bring to the track performance wise . Even if right now we could be ahead of everybody, we could see o the 2nd test ,Merc and RedBull to bring a huge upgrade that solves whatever problems they have and add more performance, so that could them quite ahead of us (as Binotto said that we won't bring anything special).

[ntukza]

Seems that they anticipated ( or reacted very, very quickly :-E ) to the problem. Things finally seem to falling into place for le rosse. :wine

One of the areas I'm concerned about for us is in-season development which will be extra critical this year, so it's encouraging to see us react this quickly. Having a goob base at the start is important as always but I suspect in-season development will be the decider this season more than ever. I reckon teams can gain or lose lots of places in the constructors based on this.

[ntukza]

Although I would love to confirm this , right now it's impossible!!! Everyone just doing their work and none knows what exactly it is !!! So you can't know who has how much on his sleeve and what else he can bring to the track performance wise . Even if right now we could be ahead of everybody, we could see o the 2nd test ,Merc and RedBull to bring a huge upgrade that solves whatever problems they have and add more performance, so that could them quite ahead of us (as Binotto said that we won't bring anything special).

I agree with this. The only thing I'm taking away from this test is that we have started on a good note and seem to have a decent car that is an improvement on recent years. Anything else regarding how quick we are and how others are doing, I'm waiting until the race weekend.

[tpe]

My initial thought.
But the car turns, so, it could be the change of direction causing this.
We need more photos.

[PURE PASSION]

just like this :
7965
you can make 2 conclusions out of this :
1. that we run lower engine modes /higher fuel then the others OR
2. The others have still better engines so on simillar modes we are down on top speed / our car is still dragier and theirs more efficiency

Each one can make his own conclusions !!!!

[tpe]

I see Sir Lewis Hamilton has banged in a glory run 1.19.1 to, I suspect, top the timing sheets this week. On the C4 but still it shows intent.

No way are the Mercs going to struggle this season. Just hope that - for once - we can give them a good kicking.

It was on new C5, the softest available tyre.
In my opinion, it was just an answer to Russel.
I don't care at this point for times.

[PURE PASSION]

"HI GEORGIE "
7966
:lol:lol:lol

[PURE PASSION]

From Gary Anderson

This is a big year for Ferrari. The Tifosi will have had enough of unfulfilled promises so now it is time to deliver. Ferrari has the driver line-up, but does it have the tools?

The car is quite different to the Mercedes, with the sidepod area bulkier. That doesn’t mean it isn’t quick because there are many ways to achieve the same outcome and Ferrari was quick out of the blocks in testing. The power unit also looks strong judging by the speed traps.

On track, the car looks purposeful. When the drivers try to push that bit harder, it stays with them so we definitely haven’t seen the Ferrari’s true potential. That perhaps reflects a willingness to keep its powder dry for now.

After all, Ferrari is or should be a top team so doesn’t need to go for glory runs.

[Nick Singer]

It was on new C5, the softest available tyre.
In my opinion, it was just an answer to Russel.
I don't care at this point for times.

Yes. I know. Put them on after I posted. His first 19.1 was set on C4s..

[Nick Singer]

Faint praise from Gary 'Rhymes with the thing you stop your boat from drifting away'..

[Silent Bob]

Faint praise from Gary 'Rhymes with the thing you stop your boat from drifting away'..

got it this time.

[PURE PASSION]

#Gazzetta about the new Ferrari PU:

"Rumors speak of major progress on the ICE (internal combustion engine), combined with a super-evolved hybrid part, for a total power output that would now be on a par with Mercedes and Honda.""There were only smiles from Charles and Carlos, who were satisfied with the behaviour of the F1-75, which is already very balanced in fast corners. Both drivers were working on their driving style."
Binotto: "We're satisfied. The car is in line with our predictions, although it's too early to judge. Rather than bringing upgrades in the next tests, our goal is to get the full potential out of this car in the first race in Bahrain. The PU still needs to be squeezed.
Gazzetta also wrote that yesterday (Test Day 3), Ross Brawn and Pat Symonds visited the Red Bull garage, looking in particular at the rear suspension of the RB18, which seems revolutionary. Looks like the FIA is keeping a close eye that nobody is using some sort of loophole.
On Mercedes, Gazzetta wrote that their test start wasn‘t smooth but the W13 is an extreme project with great potential, but maybe with a bit of small issues for now. Engine remains the strong point. Mercedes have some important upgrades planned for the Bahrain test.
On McLaren, Gazzetta wrote that they found the right setup immediately during the tests and had no reliability issues. The floor of the McLaren is said to be working the best at exploiting the ground effect, so much that the porpoising issue (that many teams have) was only minor.
#Gazzetta

Interesting article also written by Autohebdo / FredericFerret today:

[..] "McLaren surprised, even if its way of operating the venturi channel under the car, which allows the ground effect, might not be totally legal. Some teams saw the sides of the floor deform at high speed"LEquipe also wrote that GPS data of the teams are putting Ferrari at the front (in Barcelona) but both Mercedes and Red Bull will arrive with new cars at the second test in Bahrain.

[PURE PASSION]

The way i see it, is that RIGHT now we might be in better position from anybody else together with McLaren.If we would go to race tomorrow morning if think we would be the favorite to take pole and win ,with McL behind us.
BUT in 2 weeks where all teams will gather and analyze their data and try to find solutions t otheir problems and even some of them will bring major updates to their cars, THEN every could change in te 2nd test and of course in the 1st race !!!!

[SFTifoso]

The way i see it, is that RIGHT now we might be in better position from anybody else together with McLaren.If we would go to race tomorrow morning if think we would be the favorite to take pole and win ,with McL behind us.
BUT in 2 weeks where all teams will gather and analyze their data and try to find solutions t otheir problems and even some of them will bring major updates to their cars, THEN every could change in te 2nd test and of course in the 1st race !!!!

If the rumor that our big side pods are to keep the air wake from crashing into the rear tire, and that that helps with tire durability, then that might be the case. Not the best qualifying car, but a killer in the race. With the choice of changing tires based mostly on strategy and not so much on need.

Remeber Kimi’s 2007 British GB performance, everyone was freaking out why he wasn’t coming in to change tires, and still putting down blistering laps. I hope we see that every race!

[stefa]

Reasons for hope and concern for F1's 10 teams after the first test
https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/33375109/reasons-hope-concern-f1-10-teams-first-test

[tifosi1993]

Ferrari wasn't porpoising when the car was running with the new floor, pretty sure Binotto also said that the new floor has solved that particular problem.