2022 Miami Grand Prix Thread - Buildup, Practice & Qualifying

[stefa]

Red Bull.... :Hmm

[WS6TransAm01]

This is what happens when you refuse to bring updates.

Leave it to Ferrari to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I hope they are just building up to it with these times.

[458 Italia]

So far I fear about being out qualified by a merc.

[458 Italia]

Although doing good laps ATM!

[stefa]

Nice laps from both of our guys!

[jgonzalesm6]

Lewis is no where near Russell.

He's way off.....P12 currently.

[Greig]

On used tyres....why no UPGRADES lol

[WS6TransAm01]

Oh thank the lord.

Why they gotta do us so dirty?

[PURE PASSION]

That's more like it !!

[tifosi1993]

Fastest in the sector 1 and 3. So Slooow....:rotfl

[jgonzalesm6]

Nice drive by the Ferrari boys.

[SFTifoso]

On used tires too. And sky with their usual ho-hum reaction to Ferrari doing good. Lol

[PURE PASSION]

Please keep it like this in Q3!!!!:pray

[WS6TransAm01]

Carlos needs to step up his game. Charles can’t play 2 v 1 the whole season.

[tifosi1993]

Good effort from Mick. Haas has the pace for top 10 here.

[nani_s23]

Please keep it like this in Q3!!!!:pray

We need P1 & P2… to get out of max.

[stefa]

Carlos needs to step up his game. Charles can’t play 2 v 1 the whole season.

Agree

[tifosi1993]

Carlos needs to improve in the 2nd sector. He has the Red Bull covered in the sector 1 and thereabout in the sector 3.

[Tifoso]

Nice drive by the Ferrari boys.

How did we do? Q2? Away from TV...

[stefa]

How did we do? Q2? Away from TV...

About to start

[Tifoso]

About to start

Thanks!

[stefa]

MV was 0.4 sec faster in S2 then both Ferraris

Ferrari on used, Red Bull on new tires

[tifosi1993]

Don't understand why Ferrari always runs used tyres at the beginning of the Q2.

[stefa]

MV, SP, CS, CL, LH

[PURE PASSION]

RedBulls was on new ones??

[stefa]

RedBulls was on new ones??

yes

[stefa]

CS on new tires now

[stefa]

CL fastest on used tires

[458 Italia]

Woof woof throwing a strop.

[drax]

CL was on a new set ?

[stefa]

CL was on a new set ?

It says 13 laps old

[tifosi1993]

CL was on a new set ?

Yes

[PURE PASSION]

It says 13 laps old

I think it's wrong He was on new ones

[drax]

It says 13 laps old

Thank you… that is really impressive

[stefa]

I think it's wrong He was on new ones

It make sense

[stefa]

Now CL and CS are out and it says the are on 3 laps old tires

[stefa]

Both Red Bulls on new soft, Ferrari also

[stefa]

So nervous here

[Greig]

Sainz up to speed

[stefa]

MV, CL, CS, SP, VB, LH

[458 Italia]

Ity gonna be close.

[WS6TransAm01]

Eeesh. So damn close. Come on guys.

[stefa]

Sainz up to speed

Good thing. Very similar laps between CL and CS

[Greig]

Lewis 1 second off :-D

[stefa]

0.064 and 0.080 behind MV

[stefa]

Lewis 1 second off :-D

To be precise 1.168 :-D

[tifosi1993]

HELL YEAH!

[Greig]

hahahahahaha

[458 Italia]

Get in!!!!

[stefa]

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl :ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Kyss4k]

Aaaaand that's a front row lockout :ferrarifl

[tifosi1993]

Time and time again, how he does it? Incredible.

Also great job from Carlos. All those clowns that bash our drivers here should shut up now.

[jgonzalesm6]

Ferrari 1-2......very nice.

[Tifoso]

Yeeeees!
Awesome Sainz!
Extraordinary Charles!!!!

[458 Italia]

Phew!!!!

[Aziz]

I love when I'm wrong

[patrese86]

Come on!!!!!!!

Brilliant from Charles and great recovery from Carlos after yesterday.

Great quali and great seeing the usual suspects being shown up for the cowards they are

[tifosi1993]

RB will kill us here, 0.6s off pace


See you after qualifying. I thought you have learned your lessons after Bahrain but certainly I'm wrong.

Another humble pie for you today. Hopefully you've learned your lessons.

[drax]

1, 2 LET’S GO !!!!

[WS6TransAm01]

They need to stop playing with our emotion like that.

Well done a Charles and good to see Carlos pick up the pace.

[wacc]

Nice 8-)

[subfire91]

anyone on race pace analysis ? have you guys seen any data ?

[SFTifoso]

Let’s go!!!

Did someone die in the sky box? Oh just Ferrari on pole! :clap:ferrarifl

[Tifoso]

CL has something special about him, like all the great F1 drivers.
Sainz is no patsy, himself.

[Ferrarichamp]

let's hope we finish the race in the same order.

[SFTifoso]

let's hope we finish the race in the same order.

With another RB dnf! Maybe crashstappen and 2 chains will take each other out :pray

[nani_s23]

We need P1 & P2… to get out of max.

Made my day :-D

[Aziz]

Another humble pie for you today. Hopefully you've learned your lessons.

I love it :D

[Kyss4k]

let's hope we finish the race in the same order.

We have to get away from the Bulls or they could eat us with their top speed.

[redzone]

Well done boys 1-2. Wonder what Max would have done if he got his lap in. Good on Sainz for bouncing back, need him to beat both RBs in the race and get him back in the fight.

[JacKy]

A messy lap from LC yet it is far enough for pole. Great Results

1.28.5xx was definetly possible for F1-75

Stunning pace without any significant updates

[nani_s23]

Time and time again, how he does it? Incredible.

Also great job from Carlos. All those clowns that bash our drivers here should shut up now.

:thumb…!!

[bogs1207]

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[JacKy]

Yet an Unhappy Sainz again.

He’ll never learn his lesson.

Just enjoy your moment.

[tifosi1993]

QUALIFYING:

LECLERC: 29.441 -- 33.831 -- 25.419 -- 1:28.796 -- 325

SAINZ: 29.278 -- 34.017 -- 25.539 -- 1:28.986 -- 323

Verstappen: 29.546 -- 33.955 -- 25.468 -- 1:28.991 -- 334

Perez: 29.635 -- 34.012 -- 25.352 -- 1:29.036 -- 334

Bottas: 29.833 -- 34.074 -- 25.542 -- 1:29.475 -- 326

Hamilton: 29.591 -- 34.290 -- 25.465 -- 1:29.625 -- 327

Gasly: 29.907 -- 34.201 -- 25.537 -- 1:29.690 -- 327

Norris: 29.704 -- 34.057 -- 25.811 -- 1:29.750 -- 323

Tsunoda: 29.975 -- 34.286 -- 25.650 -- 1:29.932 -- 327

Stroll: 30.112 -- 34.357 -- 25.527 -- 1:30.676

Alonso: 29.773 -- 34.413 -- 25.728 -- 1:30.160 -- 327

Russell: 29.799 -- 34.514 -- 25.728 -- 1:30.173 -- 325

Vettel: 30.193 -- 34.324 -- 25.577 -- 1:30.214 -- 325

Ricciardo: 29.834 -- 34.501 -- 25.933 -- 1:30.310 -- 322

Schumacher: 29.972 -- 34.532 -- 25.771 -- 1:30.423 -- 326

Magnussen: 30.523 -- 34.919 -- 25.533 -- 1:30.975 -- 326

Zhou: 30.430 -- 34.531 -- 26.021 -- 1:31.020 -- 326

Albon: 30.349 -- 34.810 -- 25.740 -- 1:31.266 -- 330

Latifi: 30.651 -- 34.834 -- 25.717 -- 1:31.325 -- 324

Ocon

[scudieros]

Well done to our guys, the small updates and the engine seems to have worked. Good to see Carlos up there too, finally. Let's go! Hard race tomorrow, lots of safety cars I'd imagine. Let's hope it's good for us tomorrow also. On paper this was a red bull track wasn't it?

[nani_s23]

Kudos to Leclerc for nailing that Last sector. Till S2, Sainz was on .2ths up on leclerc.

Difference was last sector.

[tifosi1993]

We have to get away from the Bulls or they could eat us with their top speed.

They can't keep up with us in the corners. And the track is very low grip off line. Plus, their straight line speed is overrated.

[KingCharles]

Just amazing from the KING!!!! You keep delivering even though the team has yet to bring the updates!!! Sainz needs to defend hard and not let Max bully him again at the start. Let's go guys!

[nani_s23]

They can't keep up with us in the corners. And the track is very low grip off line. Plus, their straight line speed is overrated.

Waiting for our Spec2 upgrade. Rumour is it would fetch good HP.
MB wants to bring this as late as it can before engine freeze.

[tifosi1993]

Just amazing from the KING!!!! You keep delivering even though the team has yet to bring the updates!!! Sainz needs to defend hard and not let Max bully him again at the start. Let's go guys!

LMAO. I guess the PU2 and low porpoising floor aren't upgrades. :rotfl

[nani_s23]

With Basic/Launch Spec car, getting these results or performance is very fantastic.
Shows base of the car is very strong.

Tracks coming up (Barcelona/Monaco) would give us lot of advantage.

[ntukza]

Waiting for our Spec2 upgrade. Rumour is it would fetch good HP.
MB wants to bring this as late as it can before engine freeze.

I thought spec2 was this weekend?

[tifosi1993]

With Basic/Launch Spec car, getting these results or performance is very fantastic.
Shows base of the car is very strong.

Tracks coming up (Barcelona/Monaco) would give us lot of advantage.

Major aero upgrade is coming in Barcelona. Binotto called it significant and he doesn't play with words. According to Duchessa, it will change the shape of the car.

[ntukza]

LMAO. I guess the PU2 and low porpoising floor aren't upgrades. :rotfl

Yeah I'm also confused by some comments on here.

[tifosi1993]

I thought spec2 was this weekend?

He meant spec 2 energy harvesting components (MGU-K & H).

[Tifoso]

With Basic/Launch Spec car, getting these results or performance is very fantastic.
Shows base of the car is very strong.

Tracks coming up (Barcelona/Monaco) would give us lot of advantage.

Brilliant minds :-D
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
Mercedes may have used up all their in season budget already.

Really odd, that MV just sat on it seemingly at the end...

[ntukza]

It's been a while since we scored the most team points. Let's hope we do so tomorrow.

[ntukza]

He meant spec 2 energy harvesting components (MGU-K & H).

Oh.

[patrese86]

Why is Russell and Mercedes crying lol, yeah they were slower than yesterday in FP2 but even if they were as quick they'd of still been more than a second slower then P1 today.

Weirdo's

[KingCharles]

LMAO. I guess the PU2 and low porpoising floor aren't upgrades. :rotfl

I don't count minimal upgrades. RB will eat us alive on the straights tomorrow. I have faith the King will put up a great fight but Sainz will wave Max past. Also, RB already said they will be bringing a big upgrade to their car in Barcelona. There is only so much the king can do with no big upgrades coming.

[Tifoso]

I don't count minimal upgrades. RB will eat us alive on the straights tomorrow. I have faith the King will put up a great fight but Sainz will wave Max past. Also, RB already said they will be bringing a big upgrade to their car in Barcelona. There is only so much the king can do with no big upgrades coming.

1. Forum rule: no bashing of our drivers (in this case Sainz). :-)

2. You base this on what, exactly? CL (and CS) were green in 2 out of 3 sectors consistently

3. I happen to think that Sainz did pretty well. Second best is the #1 of anyone not named Charles. Should he have qualified his car on top of Charles' as co-pole, maybe?

[SFTifoso]

How do you block people on here?

Anyways, great result. Aaaahhh so great to see the lockout. Let’s keep that order!

[KingCharles]

How do you block people on here?

Anyways, great result. Aaaahhh so great to see the lockout. Let’s keep that order!


Good question I want to do the same thing.

[Tifoso Svedese]

I felt we'd come up just short today for a 2-3 but finally we had the margins with us and a 1-2 on the grid in a high-deg race where Red Bull look to have gone all out for pole with their settings. That's very promising indeed. Well done to both and good to see Carlos on the front row in the dry for the first time with us!

[ferrari1.8t]

Ferrari 1-2!!!!! Forza Ferrari! What an emotion watching it live! Amazing day! Half the battle done, tomorrow is race day! Lettttssssssss Gooooo!!!!!

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Tifoso]

Ferrari 1-2!!!!! Forza Ferrari! What an emotion watching it live! Amazing day! Half the battle done, tomorrow is race day! Lettttssssssss Gooooo!!!!!

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl
Post up some pics, please fratello. :-)

[nani_s23]

Most pole positions for Scuderia Ferrari:

Michael Schumacher, 58
Niki Lauda, 23
Felipe Massa, 15
Alberto Ascari, 13
Sebastian Vettel, 12

And now Charles Leclerc, 12 ������

[nani_s23]

#AMus reported that Carlos sustained a neck sprain and hip contusion after his crash yesterday. Ferrari told the FIA that there should be a Tecpro barriers between Turn 13/14. Race director Niels Wittich didn‘t want to do it. According to FIA calculations, the speed in the passage and the angle of impact did not justify a Tecpro. The plastic elements would also take up at least one metre of space. This would make the track too narrow.

[KingCharles]

1. Forum rule: no bashing of our drivers (in this case Sainz). :-)

2. You base this on what, exactly? CL (and CS) were green in 2 out of 3 sectors consistently

3. I happen to think that Sainz did pretty well. Second best is the #1 of anyone not named Charles. Should he have qualified his car on top of Charles' as co-pole, maybe?


Sainz has not performed to a high level in a single race this season. All he has to do is play a good number 2 role and defend HARD against Max. I have not seen anything to praiseworthy from him. So yes I am going to call him out.

As for the team? They started strong in 2010,2012 and 2018 and lost their way. Do you want me to be excited again? Come on now - until the big upgrades come no one should celebrate or be happy. Lets not be fooled again and again. Remember if RB did not have 3 DNF's they will be leading WDC / WCC.

[icedeepan]

Sainz has not performed to a high level in a single race this season. All he has to do is play a good number 2 role and defend HARD against Max. I have not seen anything to praiseworthy from him. So yes I am going to call him out.

As for the team? They started strong in 2010,2012 and 2018 and lost their way. Do you want me to be excited again? Come on now - until the big upgrades come no one should celebrate or be happy. Lets not be fooled again and again. Remember if RB did not have 3 DNF's they will be leading WDC / WCC.

Leclerc would still be leading the WDC without Max's DNFs, so thats factually incorrect. He was ahead in Bahrain and comfortably had it in hand in Australia. Its important to produce a car thats both fast and reliable and Ferrari have done a better job than RB on that out of the box, so give the team the credit they deserve. They will bring the updates at the right time. Forza Ferrari!

[TTRSMAD]

The only way Red Bull could compete with Ferrari today was to set up the car to be fast in sector 2. The Ferrari is marvelous in the slow stuff. Tomorrow, I am in the opinion that Red Bull won't be able to get close to use the DRS.

[Lapo]

Why is Russell and Mercedes crying lol, yeah they were slower than yesterday in FP2 but even if they were as quick they'd of still been more than a second slower then P1 today.

Weirdo's


Because George and Merc are Narcissistic

[Lapo]

The only way Red Bull could compete with Ferrari today was to set up the car to be fast in sector 2. The Ferrari is marvelous in the slow stuff. Tomorrow, I am in the opinion that Red Bull won't be able to get close to use the DRS.

RB will struggle with their tyres in the race

[Lapo]

Great to see Lapo clowning the F1 TV post qualy show. Will Buxton is an absolute tool

[paolo lalli]

Ferrari loves the warm weather red bull not so much, if Max pushes engine will let go so he will be told when to back off if the chase of ferrari becomes to much, also as usual tyre wear will be front and centre of this race for all concerned, so fans enjoy the race looking for a ferrari victory a solid points haul from the boys and I pray that sainz finishes with no mistakes or mishaps a podium is just the medicine that sainz needs to clear his head,as always expect the unexpected,forza ferrari.

[Lapo]

Most pole positions for Scuderia Ferrari:

Michael Schumacher, 58
Niki Lauda, 23
Felipe Massa, 15
Alberto Ascari, 13
Sebastian Vettel, 12

And now Charles Leclerc, 12 🇲🇨💎

By the end of the year Charl will be nipping at Niki’s heals

[paneristi]

:lol :lol
https://twitter.com/wtf1official/status/1523081273744543749?s=21&t=xM0BlIu67dIJHE28GH4nAA

[aroutis]

The only way Red Bull could compete with Ferrari today was to set up the car to be fast in sector 2. The Ferrari is marvelous in the slow stuff. Tomorrow, I am in the opinion that Red Bull won't be able to get close to use the DRS.

After quali, cars go in parc ferme, they cannot change setup unless for very specific stuff.
Basically what we saw in qualify is what starts the race.

[Ferrarichamp]

I hope Carlos will be calm at the start. We know he wants to win, but the last thing we need is our cars colliding.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Most pole positions for Scuderia Ferrari:

Michael Schumacher, 58
Niki Lauda, 23
Felipe Massa, 15
Alberto Ascari, 13
Sebastian Vettel, 12

And now Charles Leclerc, 12 ������

He's done amazing to get to that number with the cars he's had. Par would be about 6-7.

The saddest part, however, is that Fernando only scored four in spite of obliterating Felipe and Kimi for pace and being the best driver on the grid. We really let him down those five years.

[FerrariF60]

He's done amazing to get to that number with the cars he's had. Par would be about 6-7.

The saddest part, however, is that Fernando only scored four in spite of obliterating Felipe and Kimi for pace and being the best driver on the grid. We really let him down those five years.

Yeah, Fernando has been and still is and outstanding driver...he can drive pretty much any car, good or bad and put it in places it should not have the right to be in....I remember the F2012....he grabbed that doggish of a car (cause let’s be honest here, that car was a sub car performance all season long) by the scruff of its neck and put it in places it did not deserve....

That’s why I admire Fernando, only if Ferrari had given him a car that was just a tad faster he may have clinched a WDC....as he and Ferrari came pretty close in 2010 and 2012

[SilverSpeed]

CS is starting from the very low grip and dirty side so not much he can do if Max has a decent start.

[Kyss4k]

Yeah, Fernando has been and still is and outstanding driver...he can drive pretty much any car, good or bad and put it in places it should not have the right to be in....I remember the F2012....he grabbed that doggish of a car (cause let’s be honest here, that car was a sub car performance all season long) by the scruff of its neck and put it in places it did not deserve....

That’s why I admire Fernando, only if Ferrari had given him a car that was just a tad faster he may have clinched a WDC....as he and Ferrari came pretty close in 2010 and 2012

Yeah, Fernando was the only driver we've had since Michael with whom I wasn't nervous during the races that he will throw it away somehow (even if it happened few times). He was just so... consistently brilliant.

[Brembo]

CS is starting from the very low grip and dirty side so not much he can do if Max has a decent start.

Carlos is young enough to drive like Max did when he was coming up in F-1. Move over or else!!! Look where it got Max!

[458 Italia]

I'm not sure why some think red bull will have worse tyre degradation than us in the race especially after the last time out.

[Greig]

I'm not sure why some think red bull will have worse tyre degradation than us in the race especially after the last time out.

Probably as it's much hotter.

[nani_s23]

@f1dataanalysis: Qualy analysis thread
-RB has very low drag!gains at the end of the straight, but has to brake earlier
-Fer and Merc have similar drag, but Fer has more power (gains in the first straight half)
-Fer highest dowforce (highest speed in the fast chicane)

RB domintaes the straights Very low drag car concept and setup
-Ferrari gains time in the braking zones and in the corners, especially the fast ones
-Mercedes has good low-speed cornering performance, but has higher drag and still not the Ferrari downforce

[nani_s23]

@FansticsFerrari: Ferrari's new PU is strong and has allowed the F1-75 to be run with more downforce than others in Miami, which should benefit Ferrari in the race.

Tyre management will be crucial in the race as the track has lost grip due to rain overnight.

The Ferrari F1-75 is very strong in the high speed corners and in the fast sections of Sector 1, Charles and Carlos do not have to lift as much as the Red Bull drivers.

Ferrari also gains 2 tenths on Red Bull at Turn 17, under braking and traction.

[JacKy]

Imo we will see safety car in many occasions.

Which means even if we can stay in the front , we need to make a gap everytime.

[KingCharles]

CS is starting from the very low grip and dirty side so not much he can do if Max has a decent start.

It rained heavily last night not much advantage there. So no excuses

[Greig]

It rained heavily last night not much advantage there. So no excuses

Go away already.