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tifosi1993
2nd May 2022, 18:27
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WS6TransAm01
2nd May 2022, 18:42
Did they finish painting the water?

LOL

ferrari1.8t
2nd May 2022, 19:09
Current weather forecasts a lot of rain on Sunday. Hopefully it changes before then....I will be there and would like see our cars with full power in the heat with dry conditions. I agree that the fake marina is ridiculous, however it should be a good weekend overall. Really looking forward to seeing some live racing as it has been a long time since I have attended a race with Montreal being cancelled due to Covid.

No Rain :pray
Forza Ferrari :ferrarifl

Liscia
2nd May 2022, 19:11
Dress your best if you do go as numerous gold-chain "celebrities" will attend to get their pictures taken!
Martin Brundle will be practicing his starting grid gushing too so not to be missed;)

FerrariF60
2nd May 2022, 19:13
Current weather forecasts a lot of rain on Sunday. Hopefully it changes before then....I will be there and would like see our cars with full power in the heat with dry conditions. I agree that the fake marina is ridiculous, however it should be a good weekend overall. Really looking forward to seeing some live racing as it has been a long time since I have attended a race with Montreal being cancelled due to Covid.

No Rain :pray
Forza Ferrari :ferrarifl

hope you'll have some fun and witness a Ferrari win....
are you going to the Montreal one as well???
I am going, as i go every year....bar the 2 years missing due to covid

Liscia
2nd May 2022, 19:21
Current weather forecasts a lot of rain on Sunday. Hopefully it changes before then....I will be there and would like see our cars with full power in the heat with dry conditions. I agree that the fake marina is ridiculous, however it should be a good weekend overall. Really looking forward to seeing some live racing as it has been a long time since I have attended a race with Montreal being cancelled due to Covid.

No Rain :pray
Forza Ferrari :ferrarifl

Don't mind me ferrari1.8t and do enjoy yourself! It'll be your headstart on Summer
and I hope another success for our team. FORZA FERRARI!!!

SFTifoso
2nd May 2022, 19:25
No no no please no rain! Google says 30% chance between 2-3 PM. :pray

At least high will be 87F and low 75F so any water should evaporate quickly.

stefa
3rd May 2022, 12:18
Since last race, I would prefere dry race

ferrari1.8t
3rd May 2022, 13:25
hope you'll have some fun and witness a Ferrari win....
are you going to the Montreal one as well???
I am going, as i go every year....bar the 2 years missing due to covid

I’d like to go to Montreal as well, but I had to make a choice between the two races this year. I don’t know who in the FIA/Liberty thought it was a good idea to put Miami on Mother’s Day lol. I’ll end up returning to Montreal next year for sure!

Hoping for a Ferrari win as well!!

ferrari1.8t
3rd May 2022, 13:31
No no no please no rain! Google says 30% chance between 2-3 PM. :pray

At least high will be 87F and low 75F so any water should evaporate quickly.

I’m praying for no rain as well! Hopefully we have a dry race and can unleash our potential!

jgonzalesm6
3rd May 2022, 14:37
Corriere Dellla Serra: "At Imola, Red Bull brought a small package of updates , which helped lighten Max Verstappen's car by around 4 kg. These updates will arrive for Sergio Perez in Miami."

Corriere Della Serra: "Up to now, the Scuderia has been able to count on some important advantages over the competition deriving from being particularly ready on the track, thanks to a fast and easy-to-drive car, and an engine with better reliability than the power unit."

Corriere Della Serra: "However, with the steps forward made by Red Bull at Imola, which will have to be confirmed immediately in Miami, a totally new track but which, at least on paper, shouldn't be too displeasing to the RB18s given the important..."

Corriere Della Serra: "[...] extensions, Ferrari needs a step forward and this can only be guaranteed by new updates."

Corriere Della Serra: In Miami there will be some small innovations of adaptation for Ferrari at a track that is to be considered medium-low load while the most important package is expected in Barcelona.

Corriere Della Serra: Changes are expected in various areas, such as the floor and the sidepods, waiting for a new rear suspension that could arrive in the second half of the season to allow the F1-75 to extract even more potential.

Corriere Della Serra: The main objective is to eliminate the porpoising because it could guarantee a new important step forward, especially in the type of corners similar to the 9 and 10 in Melbourne or like the Tamburello in Imola.

Aziz
3rd May 2022, 19:26
Don't think we will do well here, the track is perfectly made for the strengths of RB

FerrariF60
4th May 2022, 01:31
Don't think we will do well here, the track is perfectly made for the strengths of RB

really??? would you like to elaborate more on this???

SFTifoso
4th May 2022, 02:00
I feel we’re gonna be battling back and forth with the RB all race long. Like they’ll pass us on the first DRS zone, but we’ll pass them on the 3rd DRS zone.

jgonzalesm6
4th May 2022, 13:28
Previous reports from Motorsport Italy suggested that Ferrari would introduce the new hybrid system (new MGU-K, battery, CE) in Miami & now they report that the upgrade is only for the MGU-K (with battery, CE to be updated later).
They say Charles switched to PU2 in Miami.

Motorsport Italy writes that Ferrari are happy with the reliability of the PU, thus can use more aggressive engine mappings (the article doesn‘t say anything about how much the power increase will be, so there is no number!)

SFTifoso
4th May 2022, 13:49
https://i.ibb.co/jW7NTp4/F8-D933-CC-1-BAD-4-C13-B4-A4-1-AA28-E4-D941-F.jpg

Supposedly one of the floors we tested in Imola shows a metal skid, underneath the floor, to stop the floor from stalling (porposing). Between the NGK and Brembo logos. RB is said to have one too, as they found a loophole around on the banning of side skirts.

Cavallino
4th May 2022, 19:25
My take is if Ferrari wins here, RB is finished. If Ferrari doesn't, then Barcelona is a must win.

Gilles
4th May 2022, 20:24
https://i.ibb.co/jW7NTp4/F8-D933-CC-1-BAD-4-C13-B4-A4-1-AA28-E4-D941-F.jpg

Supposedly one of the floors we tested in Imola shows a metal skid, underneath the floor, to stop the floor from stalling (porposing). Between the NGK and Brembo logos. RB is said to have one too, as they found a loophole around on the banning of side skirts.

It's said that this part seemed to limit the porpoising well in Imola, and that it will be tried again in Miami. This might be their best solution to date to contain porpoising and combined with the revised rear wing and extra hp, seriously increase their straight speed

paolo lalli
4th May 2022, 21:50
Aziz mate you must feel that every track is purpose built for red bull?change your tune pal.and offer some reasoning with your post.Dont just make a situation up without a foundation.Example ferrari will do well dry weather warm temp.and a fast track layout will suit the ferrari throw in some nice drs zones and a car that is planted bodes well for a solid result.Now you try.

Liscia
4th May 2022, 22:08
Aziz mate you must feel that every track is purpose built for red bull?change your tune pal.and offer some reasoning with your post.Dont just make a situation up without a foundation.Example ferrari will do well dry weather warm temp.and a fast track layout will suit the ferrari throw in some nice drs zones and a car that is planted bodes well for a solid result.Now you try.

+1 I'm optimistic on most tracks with a reliable and versatile car like we've got this year. Reliability problems like RB has exhibited can occur on ANY track?
Also neither of our drivers are reckless primadonnas and Carlos WILL again deliver as in the past once he calms down which could've happened at Imola had
he not been Smiley Ricciardo's victim.

Tifoso Svedese
4th May 2022, 22:48
Looks unseasonably hot with a good chance of dry weather to me. Miami seldom goes above 34°C before the solstice, but could possibly do that on Sunday. They really should run this race in April either way, much better percentage chance of good weather that time of the year and could easily swap places with Imola that then gets better weather in turn.

Liscia
5th May 2022, 00:35
If Miami/FIA want to draw more people they should hold it during the northern hemisphere's colder months because
only high Summer is a more miserable time of year down there.

WS6TransAm01
5th May 2022, 01:16
If Miami/FIA want to draw more people they should hold it during the northern hemisphere's colder months because
only high Summer is a more miserable time of year down there.

I was just in Orlando and it was hot AF.

Miami is another 250Mi south.

Gonna be… moist….

WS6TransAm01
5th May 2022, 01:21
Looks unseasonably hot with a good chance of dry weather to me. Miami seldom goes above 34°C before the solstice, but could possibly do that on Sunday. They really should run this race in April either way, much better percentage chance of good weather that time of the year and could easily swap places with Imola that then gets better weather in turn.

Or November.

The F1 calendar is the most dyslexic thing I’ve ever seen. Middle East to South Pacific to Europe to the North America to Europe to North America to Europe to to Asia to North America to South America to Middle East.

Wanna reduce costs? Buy a damn map and stop running back and forth like a crack head.

nani_s23
5th May 2022, 09:31
#AMus: The first initial upgrades of the F1-75 will debut in Miami. It will mainly involve adapting the F1-75 to the fast circuit.

Binotto: "We are confident that our package for Miami is a fairly efficient one."

wisepie
5th May 2022, 17:42
Or November.

The F1 calendar is the most dyslexic thing I’ve ever seen. Middle East to South Pacific to Europe to the North America to Europe to North America to Europe to to Asia to North America to South America to Middle East.

Wanna reduce costs? Buy a damn map and stop running back and forth like a crack head.

Quite agree, crazy planning and jet-lagged drivers, not to mention the team personnel. It's all about the money, of course!

Brembo
5th May 2022, 18:59
#AMus: The first initial upgrades of the F1-75 will debut in Miami. It will mainly involve adapting the F1-75 to the fast circuit.
Binotto: "We are confident that our package for Miami is a fairly efficient one."

Isn't Fairly Efficient almost Inefficient? How can Ferrari be confident with that?

Liscia
5th May 2022, 19:47
That's standard Binotto modest-speak. He knows as do we that the proof will be in the pudding. Even with accurate modern simulations
on a previously untested track it's foolish to brag or make predictions that would be uncharacteristic of him anyway. FORZA FERRARI!!!

PURE PASSION
5th May 2022, 21:53
It's a bit odd that we haven't fit the new rear wing on the car yet. Merc have put them on . Is it gonna be something special??? I doubt it . It's just a low drag rear, why keeping it secret till tomorrow??:Hmm

nani_s23
5th May 2022, 22:23
It's a bit odd that we haven't fit the new rear wing on the car yet. Merc have put them on . Is it gonna be something special??? I doubt it . It's just a low drag rear, why keeping it secret till tomorrow??:Hmm

Either team is super confident or the opposite.

Tony
6th May 2022, 01:30
I don't want to put my foot in my mouth, but the team built a very competitive car with the tools that it had, ergo, any updates will also use the same tools that has developed a highly competitive car. So updates should work as intended.

paolo lalli
6th May 2022, 02:00
Has every body heard the term be humble be modest, that's binotto never will he overstate a situation that's why he has never had egg on his face in his eyes anthing above zero is a victory.

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 02:58
Quite agree, crazy planning and jet-lagged drivers, not to mention the team personnel. It's all about the money, of course!

I don’t get that tho.

Still go to each of those circuits, still the same money. Just make it a single trip around the globe not a frantic back and forth.

Start in the Middle East, go to Asia, go to Australia, Europe, North America and South America.

Makes so much more sense to me.

Riccardog
6th May 2022, 08:08
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.gallery-meeting-legends-courtside-tickets-and-baseball-heres-what-the.7fIh1yy4dKV6JDJf7rfGq4.html

am I wrong to see this as an absolute disgusting demeaning reflection of F1 drivers?
In my opinion, THEY are LEGENDS, risking their lives in their sport... what legend is Tom Brady vs LH???? or miami heat (???) or miami marlins(more????)
these are American teams / players of note , but LEGENDS????? erm........

Brembo
6th May 2022, 09:16
That's standard Binotto modest-speak. He knows as do we that the proof will be in the pudding. Even with accurate modern simulations
on a previously untested track it's foolish to brag or make predictions that would be uncharacteristic of him anyway. FORZA FERRARI!!!

I 'm just thinking about how our two drivers interpret "A FAIRLY EFFICIENT" car?" Bragging is one thing, fairly efficient is a far cry from bragging. Fairly means almost not.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 10:58
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.gallery-meeting-legends-courtside-tickets-and-baseball-heres-what-the.7fIh1yy4dKV6JDJf7rfGq4.html

am I wrong to see this as an absolute disgusting demeaning reflection of F1 drivers?
In my opinion, THEY are LEGENDS, risking their lives in their sport... what legend is Tom Brady vs LH???? or miami heat (???) or miami marlins(more????)
these are American teams / players of note , but LEGENDS????? erm........

It's kinda dumb when these U.S. sports i.e. football, basketball, and baseball require individual athletic abilities while F1 drivers need a fast car PLUS race-craft.

Now, Tom Brady is the GOAT of a football quaterback given his age and what he has accomplished as a player.....look at his stats and number of super bowl rings. Why the meet with Lewis Hamilton is beyond me. Maybe Lewis needs a "lift-up" from the GOAT of American football but in Lewis's case, that requires a fast car......ummmmm, look at your team-mate Lewis....Russell seems to be doing quite well in an "undriveable" car and is beating Lewis in the points.

The rest of the meets with basketball and baseball player is simply a PR show.....that's it.....while in town, meet the hometown professional athletics.

Liscia
6th May 2022, 12:58
"Legends" are schlock goods to spread and draw in the rubes.
The drivers know as much as or better than Binotto what to expect
and just let the boss be the mouthpiece which is a main part of his
job and that maintains a single "party line". Bragging is declasse
and usually practiced to deceive for and by lesser lights?

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 13:45
Lewis has to remove his jewelry when in the car. Lewis has defied the rule these past races and the FIA has made Lewis aware of the rule.

The FIA is clamping down on this 2005 rule,.

Ferrarichamp
6th May 2022, 14:50
Lewis has to remove his jewelry when in the car. Lewis has defied the rule these past races and the FIA has made Lewis aware of the rule.

The FIA is clamping down on this 2005 rule,.

a good way to make the car lighter.

Brembo
6th May 2022, 15:04
Is wearing a wrist watch allowed?

Liscia
6th May 2022, 15:44
I would guess no - time and so much more data is on the steering wheel or just a radio ask away.

racingbradley
6th May 2022, 15:44
Maybe the weight of his chunky jewellery kept him back he will be faster without it. Look out Charles & Max but mostly Charles of course :-)

Liscia
6th May 2022, 16:40
I've often noticed drivers putting their watches on after toweling down post-race and
before getting on the podium - watches are superfluous in modern F1 and worn mostly
to satisfy sponsors. Sponsor watches are usually large,clunky, inelegant or downright ugly
(to get noticed?) and I doubt drivers would want to wear them under their already restrictive
and cumbersome HANS, fireproof undies,balaclavas, helmets, gloves,etc. that are required and NECESSARY.

Charles' ostentatious Richard Mille watch was stolen in a fan pic op during the lead-up to Imola and I wonder if
the perp(s) have been caught? A very valuable watch but very "look-at-me" and just for showing off (and
ripping-off?).

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 16:43
a good way to make the car lighter.

:-D


Is wearing a wrist watch allowed?

no


Maybe the weight of his chunky jewellery kept him back he will be faster without it. Look out Charles & Max but mostly Charles of course :-)

:-D


It's really a safety issue.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 17:08
This is pretty cool. Miami Scuderia Vice.

https://twitter.com/ScuderiaFerrari/status/1522585264408907777?cxt=HHwWgsCyleTOp6EqAAAA

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 17:17
Miami upgrades

Mercedes: Front Wing, Rear Wing, Beam Wing
Red Bull: ---
Ferrari: Rear Wing
McLaren: Front Suspension, Floor Edge
Alpine: Rear Brake Drum
AlphaTauri: ---
Aston: ---
Williams: Sidepod Cooling Louvres
Alfa: Sidepod Cooling Louvres
Haas: Rear Wing

Brembo
6th May 2022, 17:35
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.gallery-meeting-legends-courtside-tickets-and-baseball-heres-what-the.7fIh1yy4dKV6JDJf7rfGq4.html

am I wrong to see this as an absolute disgusting demeaning reflection of F1 drivers?
In my opinion, THEY are LEGENDS, risking their lives in their sport... what legend is Tom Brady vs LH???? or miami heat (???) or miami marlins(more????)
these are American teams / players of note , but LEGENDS????? erm........

You need to put Mike Tyson a true american legend in place of Brady. Life on the line in boxing for sure. Imagine Masi reffing a championship title fight and doing a Lewis on Mike!!! TALK ABOUT RISKING YOUR LIFE IN A SPORT! O K , back in the day racing Ayrton was just as dangerous! :rotfl

racingbradley
6th May 2022, 17:51
Miami upgrades

Mercedes: Front Wing, Rear Wing, Beam Wing
Red Bull: ---
Ferrari: Rear Wing
McLaren: Front Suspension, Floor Edge
Alpine: Rear Brake Drum
AlphaTauri: ---
Aston: ---
Williams: Sidepod Cooling Louvres
Alfa: Sidepod Cooling Louvres
Haas: Rear Wing

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 17:54
Italian Motorsport

So Ferrari will introduce PU2 for Charles in Miami (no new hybrid system, same spec just a fresh unit).
It was a planned change.
PU1 will be used in Monaco again.
Haas and Alfa Romeo also set to switch to PU2.

racingbradley
6th May 2022, 17:55
Miami upgrades

Mercedes: Front Wing, Rear Wing, Beam Wing
Red Bull: ---
Ferrari: Rear Wing
McLaren: Front Suspension, Floor Edge
Alpine: Rear Brake Drum
AlphaTauri: ---
Aston: ---
Williams: Sidepod Cooling Louvres
Alfa: Sidepod Cooling Louvres
Haas: Rear Wing
Shuks Merc have got a lot:-s

Liscia
6th May 2022, 18:09
How can MB know which-if any- of all those solutions is/are effective? Desperate scrambling times for them, haha!

FerrariF60
6th May 2022, 18:38
any links for free practice

thanks

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 18:46
any links for free practice

thanks

https://cricfree.live/live/sky-sports-f1



Enjoy.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 18:47
How can MB know which-if any- of all those solutions is/are effective? Desperate scrambling times for them, haha!

roll of the dice if you ask me.....we wait and see.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 19:05
Weather update. Chances of rain.

FP1: 20%
FP2: 20%, rising to 40% by 6pm local
FP3: 0%
QUAL: 40%
RACE: 40%

This broad guidance is superced by short-range forecasts/rain risk issued 15 mins before each session.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 19:12
Lewis says that if the FIA clampdown on the jewelry rule, he won't race and Mercedes has a reserve driver for the weekend......#entitledSirLewis. :roll



edit: Looks like Lewis will comply with the FIA rule about jewelry.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 19:31
Lewis says that if the FIA clampdown on the jewelry rule, he won't race and Mercedes has a reserve driver for the weekend......#entitledSirLewis. :roll



edit: Looks like Lewis will comply with the FIA rule about jewelry.

Nothing to do with entitlement. Wedding rings are allowed. Either the FIA bans all the jewelries or they don't.

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 19:33
Nothing to do with entitlement. Wedding rings are allowed. Either the FIA bans all the jewelries or they don't.

A single band on your finger is different from showing up like a damn pin cushion

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 19:34
Nothing to do with entitlement. Wedding rings are allowed. Either the FIA bans all the jewelries or they don't.

Lewis has some jewelry welded together on his ears......that he could'nt take off.......untill today.

458 Italia
6th May 2022, 19:39
Don't like the look of this track. That bit with the boats is ridiculous :rotfl

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 19:40
A single band on your finger is different from showing up like a damn pin cushion

For you maybe. Maybe your fingers are fire proof or something.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 19:41
T11 thru T16 looks chaotic in the opening lap of the race.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 19:43
Lewis has some jewelry welded together on his ears......that he could'nt take off.......untill today.

Chance of ears getting caught on fire is pretty low. As I've said, either they ban all the jewelries or they don't. Grosjean's hand got burned down pretty badly so wedding rings should not be allowed.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 19:43
Car isn't porpoising much.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 19:43
Not seeing Ferrari or Mercedes porpoising at the moment down the long straight.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 19:47
Track temperature is 50C. I don't think our car is too bad in high temperature.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 19:49
Russell PB on 10 laps older softs. Tyres are holding on really well and conditions will improve massively. So early indication is, this is going to be an one stop race.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 19:50
Russell PB on 10 laps older softs. Tyres are holding on really well and conditions will improve massively. So early indication is, this is going to be an one stop race.

Rain could be an issue.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 19:57
Rain could be an issue.

Hopefully no rain.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 19:57
Hopefully no rain.

me too.....

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 19:58
Ferrari absolutely ruling the sector 1. Similar to Red Bull in the sector 2 and a bit down in the sector 3. But early days.

Kyss4k
6th May 2022, 20:08
Ferrari absolutely ruling the sector 1. Similar to Red Bull in the sector 2 and a bit down in the sector 3. But early days.

The thing that gets me most excited is that Ferrari was on mediums while Redbull was on softs.

stefa
6th May 2022, 20:09
Mercedes into glory runs?

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 20:09
Top 5 so far:

SAINZ (M): 30.583 -- 35.740 -- 26.036 -- 1:32.443

Hamilton (S): 31.050 -- 35.682 -- 25.732 -- 1:32.464

LECLERC (M): 30.620 -- 35.647 -- 26.041 -- 1:32.555

Norris (S): 30.631 -- 35.874 -- 25.964 -- 1:32.615

Perez (S): 30.930 -- 35.651 -- 25.879 -- 1:32.759

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 20:11
The thing that gets me most excited is that Ferrari was on mediums while Redbull was on softs.

Dont know witch is better in a new track and i these conditions. Some say softs but some say mediums are more stable and gives you more confidence to push.

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 20:12
Top 5 so far:

SAINZ (M): 30.583 -- 35.740 -- 26.036 -- 1:32.443

Hamilton (S): 31.050 -- 35.682 -- 25.732 -- 1:32.464

LECLERC (M): 30.620 -- 35.647 -- 26.041 -- 1:32.555

Norris (S): 30.631 -- 35.874 -- 25.964 -- 1:32.615

Perez (S): 30.930 -- 35.651 -- 25.879 -- 1:32.759

Why so slow in S3 ??:Hmm

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 20:12
Dont know witch is better in a new track and i these conditions. Some say softs but some say mediums are more stable and gives you more confidence to push.

Grip gets lower when temperature gets higher. So softs which provide the best grip will provide the most performance. Also softs have higher working temperature so they run our of rubbers early.

stefa
6th May 2022, 20:14
How is Ferrari on bouncing?

Kyss4k
6th May 2022, 20:14
Dont know witch is better in a new track and i these conditions. Some say softs but some say mediums are more stable and gives you more confidence to push.

I have yet to see a track, where harder compound was faster over one lap than the softer one in F1 so that would be first. Also all those guys who started on mediums and then switched to softs gained a lot of speed. But it's just me getting my hopes up :)

Tifoso Svedese
6th May 2022, 20:15
Why so slow in S3 ??:Hmm

Practice engine modes.

icedeepan
6th May 2022, 20:15
Why so slow in S3 ??:Hmm

Long straight with only 1 real corner, we still seem to carry more drag but hopefully the higher engine power from the PU will compensate when its turned up.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 20:16
How is Ferrari on bouncing?

Pretty good so far. No bouncing.

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 20:17
Grip gets lower when temperature gets higher. So softs which provide the best grip will provide the most performance. Also softs have higher working temperature so they run our of rubbers early.

I hope this too !!!

458 Italia
6th May 2022, 20:18
Sainz has ruined a set of softs.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 20:18
Wow....Sainz got lucky.

stefa
6th May 2022, 20:19
Pretty good so far. No bouncing.

Nice

stefa
6th May 2022, 20:19
CS... again!

Tifoso
6th May 2022, 20:20
Boys looking pretty good. :-)

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 20:20
And we dont have the floor of Imola test

458 Italia
6th May 2022, 20:22
Red bull's look strong. Don't like seeing merc up the timing screens. Yes I know it's only FP1.

Kyss4k
6th May 2022, 20:24
None of our guys is able to finish the lap... wither due to the mistakes or I don't know what.

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 20:24
For you maybe. Maybe your fingers are fire proof or something.

No... but the glove I would wear over my wedding band is.

What are you even talking about?

JacKy
6th May 2022, 20:26
Looks like porpoising effect is minimum for everyone on this track

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 20:28
Cant see, in what tire is Lec on ??

458 Italia
6th May 2022, 20:29
Cant see, in what tire is Lec on ??

Softs.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 20:30
No... but the glove I would wear over my wedding band is.

What are you even talking about?

Plain English.

gump1480
6th May 2022, 20:31
Wow....Sainz got lucky.

What happened? He spun?

patrese86
6th May 2022, 20:32
Sainz pops a nice time in on mediums at the end

elnano14
6th May 2022, 20:32
Good lap times from both cars

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 20:32
Rus !!!!?????!!!!!

stefa
6th May 2022, 20:32
Rus !!!!?????!!!!!

WTH?!?!?!

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 20:33
Plain English.

you're talking about plain English?

LOL

Nice job playing yourself.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 20:33
Fastest in the sector 1 and 2 and equal in the sector 3. Car is looking good and no porpoising so far.

Greig
6th May 2022, 20:34
No... but the glove I would wear over my wedding band is.

What are you even talking about?

Tell that to Grosjean....arguing about jewellery is a new low for this forum though :-D

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 20:34
WTH?!?!?!

Only 0.071 behind P2!!
And 1 tenth faster then Ves !!

Greig
6th May 2022, 20:35
WTH?!?!?!

low fuel, high engine mode, glory run :-D

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 20:35
you're talking about plain English?

LOL

Nice job playing yourself.

Yeah, that 3 letter words is all you can articulate. But that's expected from you. Gun-Trump-Jail, remember? :lol

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 20:43
What happened? He spun?

yep, ruined his soft tires.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 20:46
FP1:

LECLERC (S): 30.189 -- 35.091 -- 25.687 -- 1:31.098 -- 324

Russell (S): 30.433 -- 35.133 -- 25.602 -- 1:31.169 -- 326

Verstappen (S): 30.343 -- 35.158 -- 25.528 -- 1:31.277 -- 335

Perez (S): 30.454 -- 35.300 -- 25.547 -- 1:31.301 -- 336

Gasly (S): 30.707 -- 35.252 -- 25.539 -- 1:31.498 -- 333

SAINZ (M): 30.341 -- 35.539 -- 25.648 -- 1:31.528 -- 325

Albon (S): 31.067 -- 35.181 -- 25.606 -- 1:31.854 -- 331

Hamilton (S): 30.528 -- 35.503 -- 25.673 -- 1:31.956 -- 327

Magnussen (S): 30.741 -- 35.806 -- 25.688 -- 1:32.559 -- 323

Ricciardo (S): 30.690 -- 35.664 -- 26.238 -- 1:32.598 -- 317

Norris (S): 30.631 -- 35.874 -- 25.964 -- 1:32.615 -- 323

Alonso (S): 30.831 -- 35.830 -- 26.223 -- 1:32.884 -- 326

Zhou (S): 31.037 -- 35.593 -- 26.240 -- 1:33.020 -- 321

Vettel (S): 31.379 -- 35.638 -- 25.867 -- 1:33.024 -- 326

Ocon (S): 31.425 -- 35.883 -- 26.109 -- 1:33.417 -- 328

Stroll (S): 31.330 -- 35.860 -- 25.969 -- 1:33.576 -- 328

Bottas (M): 31.479 -- 36.107 -- 26.187 -- 1:33.773 -- 322

Tsunoda (S): 31.596 -- 35.995 -- 26.138 -- 1:34.043 -- 330

Schumacher (S): 31.483 -- 36.634 -- 26.517 -- 1:34.945 -- 316

Latifi (S): 32.182 -- 36.827 -- 26.219 -- 1:35.637 -- 320

Kyss4k
6th May 2022, 21:01
FP1:

LECLERC (S): 30.189 -- 35.091 -- 25.687 -- 1:31.098 -- 324

Russell (S): 30.433 -- 35.133 -- 25.602 -- 1:31.169 -- 326

Verstappen (S): 30.343 -- 35.158 -- 25.528 -- 1:31.277 -- 335

Perez (S): 30.454 -- 35.300 -- 25.547 -- 1:31.301 -- 336

Still so slow in the straight line... we will be sitting ducks in the race again, if we won't somehow turn to power up or something.

paolo lalli
6th May 2022, 21:34
Ferrari boys need to have an incident free weekend,with a good points being scored.If the race win is possible go for it but if it involves risky driving and risky strategy I would trust that they are smarter than that and that they have learnt from imola.

Liscia
6th May 2022, 21:49
Treacherous jinky track about as bad as Saudi Arabia?

faloupas
6th May 2022, 21:49
So it is just FP1 and it is too early for conclusions.
Some things to underline.
1.If thats our straight line speed with the new PU then it is disappointing.
Maybe they will open the engine later.
2.It is good that there is no porpoising at the moment.
3.Red Bull seems that they are too strong.
4.Mercedes no porpoising too.
5.It is important for our drivers to avoid mistakes.Even if we dont win it would be critical for Charles P2 or P3.
6.Car looks again the same.We ran the old rear wing again.

KingCharles
6th May 2022, 21:52
Why did they give Sainz a 2-year contract? They should have given him only 1 year and keep renewing pending on performance.

Tifoso
6th May 2022, 22:02
Lewis Hamilton Threatens to Not Race in F1 Miami GP if New [jewelry] Ban Is Enforced
:pray

KingCharles
6th May 2022, 22:05
Lewis Hamilton Threatens to Not Race in F1 Miami GP if New [jewelry] Ban Is Enforced
:pray


Umm he did not though. He was asked what will happen if they stop him. He said Merc will use a reserve driver.

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 22:14
Had someone saw if we actually run a new rear wing ?? To me it looked the same as before !!

Tifoso
6th May 2022, 22:27
Umm he did not though. He was asked what will happen if they stop him. He said Merc will use a reserve driver.

Isn't that what I posted? :Hmm

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 22:29
Low drag RW hasn't been used yet. But tbh, I'm not too fussed about our straight-line speed. Downforce is way more important than low drag.

Apart from the sprint race at Imola, Red Bull never had any meaningful advantage over Ferrari even with their straight line speed. If not for the VSC in Jeddah, Charles would've won that race.

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 22:44
Was any reason given why Max hasn’t come out yet?

Kyss4k
6th May 2022, 22:48
Freaking Sainz... this is not normal anymore.

patrese86
6th May 2022, 22:48
Oh ffs

This is taking the **** now

Noquarter
6th May 2022, 22:48
Why this loser is still in the Ferrari?

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 22:50
This is unacceptable. Ferrari/Binotto needs to talk to him.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 22:50
WOW.......Sainz really shunted it.

KingCharles
6th May 2022, 22:50
I told you guys Sainz was rubbish!! So done with him!! Go on defend him now guys!

Ferrari needs to sack him NOW!!!

faloupas
6th May 2022, 22:50
He will crash our cars until 2024! Oh come on...
What is wrong with that driver?Too much pressure for him.?

Kyss4k
6th May 2022, 22:52
He will crash our cars until 2024! Oh come on...
What is wrong with that driver?Too much pressure for him.?

He needs to be given the number 2 role. It would take the pressure from him. Sure he would be angry, but he would get over it.

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 22:52
I don’t even know what to say… Carlos is going to use up the entire budget with repairs at this point.

KingCharles
6th May 2022, 22:52
This is unacceptable. Ferrari/Binotto needs to talk to him.


Talk to him? They handed him a 2-year contract thinking it will take the pressure off him and he is even worse! Do a swap and put Bottas. At least he will put the car up there in Q.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 22:55
Hopefully his crashes will not jeopardize our upgrade schedule.

faloupas
6th May 2022, 22:57
Talk to him? They handed him a 2-year contract thinking it will take the pressure off him and he is even worse! Do a swap and put Bottas. At least he will put the car up there in Q.

I know that it will never happen.But i would like to see Fernando in a car like this years car...
Sainz obviously earned his contract with last years performance.

scudieros
6th May 2022, 22:57
Damn Carlos! He had such a great year last year, shame about the start to this year.

KingCharles
6th May 2022, 23:01
I know that it will never happen.But i would like to see Fernando in a car like this years car...
Sainz obviously earned his contract with last years performance.

I will sooooooo love that sadly it won't happen :( - Charles will still beat him though.

Sainz is showing the difference between elite and good. The best deliver when the expectations are high. It's easy driving with the 3 best car and no pressure.

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 23:03
Sainz is showing the difference between elite and good.

“The reward for excellence is no punishment”

Anything less is unacceptable.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 23:03
Damn Carlos! He had such a great year last year, shame about the start to this year.

He wasn't setting the world alight last year, let's not get ahead of ourselves. He was incredibly fortunate last year.

Kyss4k
6th May 2022, 23:06
Seems like Mercedes has joined the game.

458 Italia
6th May 2022, 23:07
It's looking like everything merc have chucked at their car is working :-s

faloupas
6th May 2022, 23:08
We dont know how much more pace we and Red Bull have.But Mercs looks like they re awake.

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 23:09
It's looking like everything merc have chucked at their car is working :-s

Indeed. But very pleasing to see George is still faster than Two Chains.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 23:09
Merc is looking good and that's why it is very important for Sainz to stop making silly mistakes.

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 23:10
If Mercs dont run low fuel / high engine ,they are in for something good

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 23:12
Good to see the teams not being forced to wear face diapers now that they are in the free State of Florida.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 23:13
Charles's PB sectors would've easily put him on the top. But that's not important today.

Tifoso Svedese
6th May 2022, 23:19
We run the engines low on Fridays and are just running our own practice programs. Most likely working on the right battery deployment for example. Mercedes have to run near maximum to figure out what they need to do with their car. That's what it's almost certainly about. Last year we were top on Friday at Zandvoort and then nowhere when it mattered. I think they'll be closer in qualifying trim than on other laps, but lose a lot of time due to rear tyre degradation in the middle sector during the race due to their skinny wing.

jgonzalesm6
6th May 2022, 23:21
RedFlagging the entrance....really!!!!

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 23:23
F1 is trigger happy with red flag nowadays.

458 Italia
6th May 2022, 23:25
Charles doing race sim now.

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 23:29
Sky is tying themselves in knots excusing George wiping the floor with the Affirmative Action Champion.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 23:30
Very good long run pace. :thumb

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 23:32
Very good long run pace. :thumb
Copmpare to others?

SFTifoso
6th May 2022, 23:35
Porposing seems to come in at higher speed and with less severity. Anybody got the published upgrades list?

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 23:36
Charles reports a weird behaviour of the engine in Turn 13/14.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 23:36
LEC (M):
1:34.265
1:34.216
1:33.934
1:38.415
1:33.434

RUS(M):
1:34.293
1:34.278
1:34.182
1:34.337
1:34.505

PER(M):
1:37.503
1:33.745
1:34.159
1:37.808
1:34.883

HAM(M):
1:34.809
1:35.137
1:38.282
1:35.103
1:34.465

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 23:37
Porposing seems to come in at higher speed and with less severity. Anybody got the published upgrades list?

It was posted in the first couple of pages of this thread. Looks like Ferrari only brought a new rear wing.

SFTifoso
6th May 2022, 23:37
Sky is tying themselves in knots excusing George wiping the floor with the Affirmative Action Champion.

The simplest answer is that it was the car all along plus preferential treatment. Now he’s finally going up against someone in an equal car.

nani_s23
6th May 2022, 23:37
FP3 will be busy for both Max & Carlos.

I feel Carlos feeling the pressure because of fastest car. He’s pushing very hard

SFTifoso
6th May 2022, 23:37
It was posted in the first couple of pages of this thread. Looks like Ferrari only brought a new rear wing.

Thanks!

PURE PASSION
6th May 2022, 23:40
It was posted in the first couple of pages of this thread. Looks like Ferrari only brought a new rear wing.

Didnt see it on the car

BAT340
6th May 2022, 23:41
Yes, they certainly should have gone after Bottas. This is what, three cars he has totaled already? He is killing the team. At this point, I'd bring up the reserve driver, he can't possibly be ANY worse. Jesus! What a clown he's turned out to be. And to think they let Vettel go for this asswipe!

WS6TransAm01
6th May 2022, 23:41
The simplest answer is that it was the car all along plus preferential treatment. Now he’s finally going up against someone in an equal car.

Yup yup

Like I said, affirmative action champion.

But they will never admit it that’s why it’s so amusing to watch them squirt to come up with excuses.

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 23:45
FP2:

Russell (S): 29.825 -- 34.634 -- 25.479 -- 1:29.938 -- 324

LECLERC (S): 29.848 -- 34.498 -- 25.521 -- 1:30.044 -- 326

Perez (S): 30.064 -- 34.538 -- 25.421 -- 1:30.150 -- 336

Hamilton (S): 29.963 -- 34.663 -- 25.265 -- 1:30.179 -- 325

Alonso (S): 30.089 -- 34.647 -- 25.636 -- 1:30.372 -- 329

Norris (S): 30.026 -- 35.000 -- 25.509 -- 1:30.535 -- 323

Gasly (S): 30.325 -- 34.630 -- 25.515 -- 1:30.547 -- 329

Zhou (S): 30.427 -- 34.740 -- 25.693 -- 1:30.860 -- 328

Ocon (S): 30.329 -- 34.789 -- 25.483 -- 1:30.861 -- 332

Magnussen (S): 29.989 -- 35.230 -- 25.458 -- 1:30.921 -- 330

SAINZ (M): 30.175 -- 35.074 -- 25.557 -- 1:30.964 -- 327

Ricciardo (S): 30.477 -- 35.016 -- 25.715 -- 1:31.208 -- 321

Tsunoda (S): 30.223 -- 35.116 -- 25.632 -- 1:31.260 -- 327

Vettel (S): 30.717 -- 35.124 -- 25.552 -- 1:31.393 -- 326

Schumacher (S): 30.393 -- 35.442 -- 25.752 -- 1:31.587 -- 328

Stoll (S): 30.677 -- 35.308 -- 25.646 -- 1:31.631 -- 328

Albon (S): 30.564 -- 35.267 -- 25.541 -- 1:31.710 -- 330

Latifi (S): 31.243 -- 35.928 -- 25.668 -- 1:32.913 -- 323

Verstappen:

Bottas:

tifosi1993
6th May 2022, 23:47
During the long runs Ferrari/Charles wasn't losing any time in the final sector. But none had any answers to our pace in the first 2 sectors.

nani_s23
6th May 2022, 23:59
FP2:

Russell (S): 29.825 -- 34.634 -- 25.479 -- 1:29.938 -- 324

LECLERC (S): 29.848 -- 34.498 -- 25.521 -- 1:30.044 -- 326

Perez (S): 30.064 -- 34.538 -- 25.421 -- 1:30.150 -- 336

Hamilton (S): 29.963 -- 34.663 -- 25.265 -- 1:30.179 -- 325

Alonso (S): 30.089 -- 34.647 -- 25.636 -- 1:30.372 -- 329

Norris (S): 30.026 -- 35.000 -- 25.509 -- 1:30.535 -- 323

Gasly (S): 30.325 -- 34.630 -- 25.515 -- 1:30.547 -- 329

Zhou (S): 30.427 -- 34.740 -- 25.693 -- 1:30.860 -- 328

Ocon (S): 30.329 -- 34.789 -- 25.483 -- 1:30.861 -- 332

Magnussen (S): 29.989 -- 35.230 -- 25.458 -- 1:30.921 -- 330

SAINZ (M): 30.175 -- 35.074 -- 25.557 -- 1:30.964 -- 327

Ricciardo (S): 30.477 -- 35.016 -- 25.715 -- 1:31.208 -- 321

Tsunoda (S): 30.223 -- 35.116 -- 25.632 -- 1:31.260 -- 327

Vettel (S): 30.717 -- 35.124 -- 25.552 -- 1:31.393 -- 326

Schumacher (S): 30.393 -- 35.442 -- 25.752 -- 1:31.587 -- 328

Stoll (S): 30.677 -- 35.308 -- 25.646 -- 1:31.631 -- 328

Albon (S): 30.564 -- 35.267 -- 25.541 -- 1:31.710 -- 330

Latifi (S): 31.243 -- 35.928 -- 25.668 -- 1:32.913 -- 323

Verstappen:

Bottas:



Ham had good tow from leclerc on his Soft tyre FL in final Sector.

SFTifoso
7th May 2022, 00:13
Yup yup

Like I said, affirmative action champion.

But they will never admit it that’s why it’s so amusing to watch them squirt to come up with excuses.

Can’t wait to watch the replay :rotfl

Search “Bill Burr F1” on YouTube it’s hilarious and 100% true.

WS6TransAm01
7th May 2022, 00:27
Can’t wait to watch the replay :rotfl

Search “Bill Burr F1” on YouTube it’s hilarious and 100% true.

Just found it. I was hoping Bill Burr would be more Bill Burr but he was a bit too tame.

I was hoping for this 8024

paolo lalli
7th May 2022, 00:56
Carlos really has to get his head into gear he is letting ferrari down big time, the pressure is obviously to much for him unless Carlos finds a way to real in his errors iam afraid his stay at ferrari will be short lived.With mercedes on the rise and back in the game ferrari need him more than ever to play his part otherwise the championship will slip away very quickly.

gump1480
7th May 2022, 01:34
FP2:

Russell (S): 29.825 -- 34.634 -- 25.479 -- 1:29.938 -- 324

LECLERC (S): 29.848 -- 34.498 -- 25.521 -- 1:30.044 -- 326

Perez (S): 30.064 -- 34.538 -- 25.421 -- 1:30.150 -- 336

Hamilton (S): 29.963 -- 34.663 -- 25.265 -- 1:30.179 -- 325

Alonso (S): 30.089 -- 34.647 -- 25.636 -- 1:30.372 -- 329

Norris (S): 30.026 -- 35.000 -- 25.509 -- 1:30.535 -- 323

Gasly (S): 30.325 -- 34.630 -- 25.515 -- 1:30.547 -- 329

Zhou (S): 30.427 -- 34.740 -- 25.693 -- 1:30.860 -- 328

Ocon (S): 30.329 -- 34.789 -- 25.483 -- 1:30.861 -- 332

Magnussen (S): 29.989 -- 35.230 -- 25.458 -- 1:30.921 -- 330

SAINZ (M): 30.175 -- 35.074 -- 25.557 -- 1:30.964 -- 327

Ricciardo (S): 30.477 -- 35.016 -- 25.715 -- 1:31.208 -- 321

Tsunoda (S): 30.223 -- 35.116 -- 25.632 -- 1:31.260 -- 327

Vettel (S): 30.717 -- 35.124 -- 25.552 -- 1:31.393 -- 326

Schumacher (S): 30.393 -- 35.442 -- 25.752 -- 1:31.587 -- 328

Stoll (S): 30.677 -- 35.308 -- 25.646 -- 1:31.631 -- 328

Albon (S): 30.564 -- 35.267 -- 25.541 -- 1:31.710 -- 330

Latifi (S): 31.243 -- 35.928 -- 25.668 -- 1:32.913 -- 323

Verstappen:

Bottas:

Why aren't we dominating the last sector? I thought this sector was tailor made for our car...btw don't like seeing the Mercs dominating traction sector.

paolo lalli
7th May 2022, 03:49
Any one who thought that mercedes would be down and out all season will be sadly mistaken, the only way is up and it appears to have started, as an organisation just way way to big to just simply fail.As i say expect the unexpected.In a way the salary cap is the only thing that holds all teams back.

KingCharles
7th May 2022, 04:05
Any one who thought that mercedes would be down and out all season will be sadly mistaken, the only way is up and it appears to have started, as an organisation just way way to big to just simply fail.As i say expect the unexpected.In a way the salary cap is the only thing that holds all teams back.


Tbh even the drivers could not understand why they are this fast. That said the team need to taker advantage of every opportunity before Merc get in 6 th gear

458 Italia
7th May 2022, 06:26
I can see a merc pole coming ya know :-s

Rosso Corsa
7th May 2022, 06:43
All teams have welcomed Ferrari back to the top. And I say welcome back to the races, Mercedes. And with the niceties done, I hope we whoop you good. It's a race to Abu Dhabi, now. See you there, beaches.

And come on, Carlos. We need those team points brah. Points points points points points.

stefa
7th May 2022, 07:25
I wasn't expecting Mercedes to bounce back that fast, honestly...

Regarding CS... I don't have words.... :furious

Aziz
7th May 2022, 07:33
I wasn't expecting Mercedes to bounce back that fast, honestly...

Regarding CS... I don't have words.... :furious

Quite strange

speedmaster
7th May 2022, 07:36
That top speed of Honda is worrying, 10km/hr up on Ferrari.

Ferrarichamp
7th May 2022, 07:58
I'm beginning to give up on our chances of winning WCC this year, you can't win the constructor's with just one car.
Too bad Sainz is turning out to be the Spanish Grosjean :-??
I just hope Charles gets that WDC at least.

stefa
7th May 2022, 08:01
I'm beginning to give up on our chances of winning WCC this year, you can't win the constructor's with just one car.
Too bad Sainz is turning out to be the Spanish Grosjean :-??
I just hope Charles gets that WDC at least.

Especially if Mercedes, and they will, join the party. We need both drivers scoring points

paolo lalli
7th May 2022, 09:17
100% correct both drivers scoring points, because ladies and gentlemen its game on.

Kyss4k
7th May 2022, 09:44
I'm beginning to give up on our chances of winning WCC this year, you can't win the constructor's with just one car.
Too bad Sainz is turning out to be the Spanish Grosjean :-??
I just hope Charles gets that WDC at least.

I don't care about constructors. It's in a twisted way even better if we don't win it as it would mean more time in the wind tunnel... All I care is the WDC and we should do everything for it. Meaning even setting a clear number 1 and 2 driver like in the Schumi years.

stefa
7th May 2022, 10:46
I don't care about constructors. It's in a twisted way even better if we don't win it as it would mean more time in the wind tunnel... All I care is the WDC and we should do everything for it. Meaning even setting a clear number 1 and 2 driver like in the Schumi years.

I beg to differ. I am Ferrari supporter in the first place, and to me CWC is very important indeed. Of course WDC for Ferrari driver also!

Alonsomaniac
7th May 2022, 11:04
WDC is very nice, but it is Ferrari who needs to be champion. WCC is what it's all about.

stefa
7th May 2022, 11:47
WDC is very nice, but it is Ferrari who needs to be champion. WCC is what it's all about.

Agree!

gump1480
7th May 2022, 11:55
That top speed of Honda is worrying, 10km/hr up on Ferrari.

It's not Honda it's Newey...that RB is super slippery car especially when the DRS opens.

458 Italia
7th May 2022, 13:18
The fact that Russell was fastest despite being 12kmh down on Perez's red bull is concerning.

Brembo
7th May 2022, 13:36
I don't care about constructors. It's in a twisted way even better if we don't win it as it would mean more time in the wind tunnel... All I care is the WDC and we should do everything for it. Meaning even setting a clear number 1 and 2 driver like in the Schumi years.

WDC is everything for sure .A clear 1 & 2 driver is where it's at. Look at Shumy @ Merc! 1 podium in 3 seasons.

Liscia
7th May 2022, 14:01
WDC is very nice, but it is Ferrari who needs to be champion. WCC is what it's all about.

+1 X 10!

Kyss4k
7th May 2022, 15:07
Agree!

I don't wanna question your opinion, but you mean that year 2008 ment more for you than if let's say Leclerc won WDC this year but the team fell short on Redbull?

Tifoso Svedese
7th May 2022, 15:08
I'd take the WDC over WCC ten times over. Sorry if it offends anyone.

I genuinely doubt you lot who say this were wildly celebrating in 1999 and 2008 when Irvine and Massa fell short in those agonizing manners.

FerrariF60
7th May 2022, 15:28
WCC over WDC any day of the week for me....

WCC shows how strong the team is......so its first and foremost for me

Wdc is nice too.....but but I root for the team first as always.....drivers come and go and only the best ones get remembered the most

tifosi1993
7th May 2022, 16:04
WDC and WCC are both equally important but people value WDC way more than WCC. Driver's championship is always the main draw over constructor's championship. I'd say nearly 99% of F1 viewership cares about Driver vs Driver over Constructor vs Constructor.

That's why many Ferrari fans consider 2008 to be painful even when Ferrari won the WCC, myself included. Same way, Red Bull-Max is the net winner of last year's championship even if Mercedes won the WCC.

For me, WDC is the main title. So if Charles wins the WDC but Ferrari fails to win the WCC, I wouldn't be upset.

tifosi1993
7th May 2022, 16:10
I'd take the WDC over WCC ten times over. Sorry if it offends anyone.

I genuinely doubt you lot who say this were wildly celebrating in 1999 and 2008 when Irvine and Massa fell short in those agonizing manners.

Indeed.

Ferrari raises the flag at Maranello when a Ferrari driver wins the race. They don't raise the flag and churches don't ring the bells when Ferrari drivers score P2 and P3 in a race.

Noquarter
7th May 2022, 16:15
With this Spanish clown Ferrari will not win anything.

SS454
7th May 2022, 16:44
I'd take the WDC over WCC ten times over. Sorry if it offends anyone.

I genuinely doubt you lot who say this were wildly celebrating in 1999 and 2008 when Irvine and Massa fell short in those agonizing manners.

Agreed. A WCC without the WDC feels a bit like a defeat. It suggests the car was capable, but the driver didn't deliver.

jgonzalesm6
7th May 2022, 16:45
[Motorsport]

Watches have been added to the jewelry ban. Drivers can face up to a $265,000 fine.

Note: Lewis has had a 2 race exemption from the FIA to remove all his jewelry from his facial area. #entitledSirLewis #TheBlessedOne.

SS454
7th May 2022, 16:52
I used to go into quali day wondering if a Ferrari has a shot at pole position. Now I am thinking will either of the Ferrari drivers put it in the wall.

458 Italia
7th May 2022, 16:57
[Motorsport]

Watches have been added to the jewelry ban. Drivers can face up to a $265,000 fine.

Note: Lewis has had a 2 race exemption from the FIA to remove all his jewelry from his facial area. #entitledSirLewis #TheBlessedOne.

One rule for him, one rule for everyone else. :roll

PURE PASSION
7th May 2022, 17:24
Its quite odd that while yesterday we saw from the laps of mini race sim the drivers did in the end of FP2 ,that Lec was about 3-4 tenths /lap faster then Perez, now AMuS and motorsport say that Parez was 0.01/lap faster ??????? And in FP2 Lec reached 334 and Perez 336 and still they say that we are 10 km/h slower on straights. And for all this they claim that RBR is the favorite ????

SFTifoso
7th May 2022, 17:31
One rule for him, one rule for everyone else. :roll

Of course! He’s only had 2 months to remove that crap from face, but we have to hear how oppressed he is. There’s people in the world with real struggles. The FIA telling him to stop wearing jewelry is not a struggle. Then you have these people “well they wore blood type metal bracelets in the 70s blah blah” That’s cause it was the freaking 70s! They had unpredictable bombs for engines.

jgonzalesm6
7th May 2022, 18:12
Michelle Obama down at Mercedes.

Aziz
7th May 2022, 18:16
Max is super fast out of the box

458 Italia
7th May 2022, 18:16
Red flag Ocon crashes.

It's all well and good shortening the practice sessions but how are teams supposed to work when the red flag comes out every 5 minutes!?

jgonzalesm6
7th May 2022, 18:16
Esteban Ocon has crashed at turn 14. The same corner as Sainz yesterday

tifosi1993
7th May 2022, 18:17
Top speed is down. Below 320 today. Ferrari really not pushing the engine, yet.

KingCharles
7th May 2022, 18:21
It's not Honda it's Newey...that RB is super slippery car especially when the DRS opens.

So explain how AT has a higher top speed?

KingCharles
7th May 2022, 18:24
WDC is very nice, but it is Ferrari who needs to be champion. WCC is what it's all about.

lol thats. F1 has ALWAYS been about the WDC

jgonzalesm6
7th May 2022, 18:25
So explain how AT has a higher top speed?

Yuki Tsunoda......height 4ft 9in and weighs 100lbs.....:-D

jgonzalesm6
7th May 2022, 18:26
Love JPM at the commentary.

458 Italia
7th May 2022, 18:44
Car seems to be sliding a lot.

Greig
7th May 2022, 18:45
So explain how AT has a higher top speed?

:-ZZ

patrese86
7th May 2022, 18:47
Car seems to be sliding a lot.

They all are. Can't get the tyres in the window by the looks of things

Though we are still a second up on Mercedes despite that

tifosi1993
7th May 2022, 18:48
Track is slower than yesterday. Track temp is more than 10C higher today.

gump1480
7th May 2022, 18:52
Redfools look planted through the slow sections.

Tifoso
7th May 2022, 18:53
WDC is very nice, but it is Ferrari who needs to be champion. WCC is what it's all about.

Quote.

Tifoso
7th May 2022, 18:55
I wasn't expecting Mercedes to bounce back that fast, honestly...

Regarding CS... I don't have words.... :furious

Wonder if they have any development budget left, though..

Greig
7th May 2022, 18:56
Merc bouncing all over the place again :-D

Tifoso
7th May 2022, 18:57
I don't wanna question your opinion, but you mean that year 2008 ment more for you than if let's say Leclerc won WDC this year but the team fell short on Redbull?

If that happens, it means that our #2 will have hugely underperformed.

Aziz
7th May 2022, 18:58
RB will kill us here, 0.6s off pace

Greig
7th May 2022, 18:58
Lucky Max

458 Italia
7th May 2022, 18:59
Why couldn't max have totalled his car :furious

Greig
7th May 2022, 19:00
RB will kill us here, 0.6s off pace

Ok :-D

Aziz
7th May 2022, 19:03
Ok :-D

To be honest I would love to be wrong :D

tifosi1993
7th May 2022, 19:03
RB will kill us here, 0.6s off pace

See you after qualifying. I thought you have learned your lessons after Bahrain but certainly I'm wrong.

Tifoso Svedese
7th May 2022, 19:03
Charles had 11 laps old softs, took it very easy on the throttle in S3 but still outpaced Verstappen in this session. I also feel that in these temperatures we'll work the rears a lot better than them. The main goal on a circuit like this is to not bin it in S3 after all.

patrese86
7th May 2022, 19:03
I think we are sacrificing alot of straight-line speed and looking more towards the race.

elnano14
7th May 2022, 19:04
Sainz needs to step up...

tifosi1993
7th May 2022, 19:05
Perez 332 with DRS open in the final sector, Charles 319. But other Ferrari powered cars are doing 326-328.

gump1480
7th May 2022, 19:05
Looks like a driver's track....one who makes the least amount of mistakes will take pole here. But I must say RB looks very quick thru both fast and slow sectors. We may have taken too much of a hit in slow sector just to keep up with the RBs in fast sector

jgonzalesm6
7th May 2022, 19:06
To be honest I would love to be wrong :D

Well, you're wrong.

PURE PASSION
7th May 2022, 19:06
S3 is killing us .
It looks like with clean laps , both RedBull could Qualy ahead of us. Unless we where down on power , but dont think so. As always hope for the best and hope that Belcelona upgrade to put us clearly ahead. Its good to battle ,but after all those years i just want some easy races to relax !!!:-D

gump1480
7th May 2022, 19:06
Perez 332 with DRS open in the final sector, Charles 319. But other Ferrari powered cars are doing 326-328.

Whoa...so slow !!

Tifoso Svedese
7th May 2022, 19:07
Looks like a driver's track....one who makes the least amount of mistakes will take pole here. But I must say RB looks very quick thru both fast and slow sectors. We may have taken too much of a hit in slow sector just to keep up with the RBs in fast sector

The thing is that we appear faster than them in S1 and in the twisty part of S2, which is where degradation for sliding cars will be a huge problem tomorrow. I believe Charles has the front row covered later on, not sure about pole but we're thereabouts.

nani_s23
7th May 2022, 19:10
Looks like a driver's track....one who makes the least amount of mistakes will take pole here. But I must say RB looks very quick thru both fast and slow sectors. We may have taken too much of a hit in slow sector just to keep up with the RBs in fast sector

It’s all about protecting your tyres during race. I assume ferrari are concentrating on this aspect without loosing much of track position. Let’s wait for quali.

I feel RB has slight edge over Charles. With Sainz .8ths of seems like engine is on the lower side.

Let’s see.

PURE PASSION
7th May 2022, 19:10
Charles had 11 laps old softs, took it very easy on the throttle in S3 but still outpaced Verstappen in this session. I also feel that in these temperatures we'll work the rears a lot better than them. The main goal on a circuit like this is to not bin it in S3 after all.

was he on the previous set on his last run , or he put new ones??

faloupas
7th May 2022, 19:12
I will not say anything.I ll wait for qualy.
Only one comment...Carlos is nowhere and i expected more from the car. Until now the car is the same presentation car and Red Bull looks again faster...but lets wait for qualy.Maybe we have something more.

tifosi1993
7th May 2022, 19:13
FP3:

Perez (S): 30.110 -- 34.481 -- 25.689 -- 1:30.304

LECLERC (S): 29.875 -- 34.548 -- 25.914 -- 1:30.498

Verstappen (S): 30.030 -- 34.488 -- 25.960 -- 1:30.649

Alonso (S): 30.321 -- 34.786 -- 25.929 -- 1:31.036

Vettel (S): 30.536 -- 34.559 -- 25.954 -- 1:31.049

Schumacher (S): 30.339 -- 34.845 -- 25.866 -- 1:31.050

SAINZ (S): 30.256 -- 34.851 -- 26.019 -- 1:31.172

Magnussen (S): 30.481 -- 34.805 -- 25.791 -- 1:31.227

Albon (S): 30.714 -- 34.720 -- 25.847 -- 1:31.501

Norris (S): 30.298 -- 34.895 -- 26.319 -- 1:31.594

Tsunoda (S): 30.577 -- 34.791 -- 25.847 -- 1:31.659

Stroll (S): 30.608 -- 34.814 -- 26.147 -- 1:31.665

Ricciardo (S): 30.524 -- 34.894 -- 26.310 -- 1:31.728

Bottas (S): 30.408 -- 34.978 -- 26.076 -- 1:31.885

Hamilton (S): 30.302 -- 35.060 -- 26.183 -- 1:31.890

Gasly (S): 30.722 -- 34.959 -- 26.220 -- 1:31.901

Russell (S): 30.406 -- 35.003 -- 26.214 -- 1:31.924

Zhou (S): 30.632 -- 35.007 -- 26.240 -- 1:32.051

Latifi (S): 31.010 -- 35.224 -- 26.074 -- 1:32.376

Ocon:

tifosi1993
7th May 2022, 19:16
Whoa...so slow !!

Engine mode.

Perez 25.689 in the final sector, Magnussen 25.791.

There's no way the F1-75 is nearly 2 tenths slower than the Haas in that sector.

nani_s23
7th May 2022, 19:17
FP3:

Perez (S): 30.110 -- 34.481 -- 25.689 -- 1:30.304

LECLERC (S): 29.875 -- 34.548 -- 25.914 -- 1:30.498

Verstappen (S): 30.030 -- 34.488 -- 25.960 -- 1:30.649

Alonso (S): 30.321 -- 34.786 -- 25.929 -- 1:31.036

Vettel (S): 30.536 -- 34.559 -- 25.954 -- 1:31.049

Schumacher (S): 30.339 -- 34.845 -- 25.866 -- 1:31.050

SAINZ (S): 30.256 -- 34.851 -- 26.019 -- 1:31.172

Magnussen (S): 30.481 -- 34.805 -- 25.791 -- 1:31.227

Albon (S): 30.714 -- 34.720 -- 25.847 -- 1:31.501

Norris (S): 30.298 -- 34.895 -- 26.319 -- 1:31.594

Tsunoda (S): 30.577 -- 34.791 -- 25.847 -- 1:31.659

Stroll (S): 30.608 -- 34.814 -- 26.147 -- 1:31.665

Ricciardo (S): 30.524 -- 34.894 -- 26.310 -- 1:31.728

Bottas (S): 30.408 -- 34.978 -- 26.076 -- 1:31.885

Hamilton (S): 30.302 -- 35.060 -- 26.183 -- 1:31.890

Gasly (S): 30.722 -- 34.959 -- 26.220 -- 1:31.901

Russell (S): 30.406 -- 35.003 -- 26.214 -- 1:31.924

Zhou (S): 30.632 -- 35.007 -- 26.240 -- 1:32.051

Latifi (S): 31.010 -- 35.224 -- 26.074 -- 1:32.376

Ocon:

MSC & K-Mag last sector times are very good. Which there is still potential for Ferrari to improve in Final sector.

PURE PASSION
7th May 2022, 19:19
FP3:

Perez (S): 30.110 -- 34.481 -- 25.689 -- 1:30.304

LECLERC (S): 29.875 -- 34.548 -- 25.914 -- 1:30.498

Verstappen (S): 30.030 -- 34.488 -- 25.960 -- 1:30.649

Alonso (S): 30.321 -- 34.786 -- 25.929 -- 1:31.036

Vettel (S): 30.536 -- 34.559 -- 25.954 -- 1:31.049

Schumacher (S): 30.339 -- 34.845 -- 25.866 -- 1:31.050

SAINZ (S): 30.256 -- 34.851 -- 26.019 -- 1:31.172

Magnussen (S): 30.481 -- 34.805 -- 25.791 -- 1:31.227

Albon (S): 30.714 -- 34.720 -- 25.847 -- 1:31.501

Norris (S): 30.298 -- 34.895 -- 26.319 -- 1:31.594

Tsunoda (S): 30.577 -- 34.791 -- 25.847 -- 1:31.659

Stroll (S): 30.608 -- 34.814 -- 26.147 -- 1:31.665

Ricciardo (S): 30.524 -- 34.894 -- 26.310 -- 1:31.728

Bottas (S): 30.408 -- 34.978 -- 26.076 -- 1:31.885

Hamilton (S): 30.302 -- 35.060 -- 26.183 -- 1:31.890

Gasly (S): 30.722 -- 34.959 -- 26.220 -- 1:31.901

Russell (S): 30.406 -- 35.003 -- 26.214 -- 1:31.924

Zhou (S): 30.632 -- 35.007 -- 26.240 -- 1:32.051

Latifi (S): 31.010 -- 35.224 -- 26.074 -- 1:32.376

Ocon:

these are the best sectors?? because it doesnt add up. With these sectors ,Lec adds 1:30:337!!!

KingCharles
7th May 2022, 19:28
:-ZZ

About time you woke to the truth

PURE PASSION
7th May 2022, 19:39
About time you woke to the truth
And you can go back to sleap!!!!

stefa
7th May 2022, 20:02
I am really dissapointed with CS

JPMFerrari
7th May 2022, 20:05
Sainz has really lost his rhythm the last few races. He's all over the track.

ferrari1.8t
7th May 2022, 20:18
I’m here at the race at turn 18…

Charles looks great and confident. He has more to unleash come qualifying.
Saniz is noticeably slower than Charles, carries less speed into the corner and is on the throttle later.

RedBull definitely has a lot of grip, they look very comfortable.

It’s been years since I attended a race (covid), Mercedes better not be anywhere near the top 4-6 come q3 lol

Tifoso
7th May 2022, 20:31
Tad disappointed in Sainz's pace compared to CL.
Prove me wrong in Q and the race. :-)

PURE PASSION
7th May 2022, 20:35
Τhe thing that bothers me a bit , is that i avent see any new parts on the car. There suppose to be a new low grag rear wing. Theres no way thet the one we have on the car is that !!! If it is i berely will call it new and more a low grag one !!! I just hope its not gonna be the case like this with barcelona upgrades also ??!!!!

Kyss4k
7th May 2022, 20:40
Τhe thing that bothers me a bit , is that i avent see any new parts on the car. There suppose to be a new low grag rear wing. Theres no way thet the one we have on the car is that !!! If it is i berely will call it new and more a low grag one !!! I just hope its not gonna be the case like this with barcelona upgrades also ??!!!!

This. I am especially tilted by Ferrari developing a modular nose so they can easilly come up with different solutions without a need to crashtest the car, yet they did bring exactly 0 nose updates in 5 races. Like why even bother then?

stefa
7th May 2022, 20:42
I hope CL can do great lap and make it on pole. I don't see CS up there

nani_s23
7th May 2022, 20:56
Ferrari are working on Carlos Sainz's car. This could be a close call. Nine minutes until the start of qualifying now. #F1

@Autosport

stefa
7th May 2022, 21:00
I hope there are not going to be many red flags today and we avoid them

stefa
7th May 2022, 21:00
Ocon will not taka part in Q