2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Race Thread

[ferrari1.8t]

Charles pulling away like a boss! I must admit, I didn’t believe Ferrari had the pace. They proved me wrong! Let’s go boys!!

[RossTheBoss]

NO! NO! God damn it!

[Tifoso Svedese]

:furious

[jgonzalesm6]

Ferrari can lock this race out with a 1-2.

C'mon Sainz.

edit: Carlos is done.

[JChan]

Oh Oh CS!

[totox]

Ffs

[458 Italia]

Noooooo Carlos is out :-(

[Greig]

Oh my god

[drax]

Safety car

[WS6TransAm01]

You have to be kidding me.

Not again.

[458 Italia]

No luck at all!!!!

[ferrari1.8t]

Dam. Of course this has to happen when Perez has issues. Dam dam dam

[Tifoso Svedese]

This car is like North Korean missiles god dammit.

[drax]

Virtual SC

[Greig]

VSC

[tifosi1993]

:furious

[Greig]

Marshalls running away when the car is on fire!!! what on earth

[RossTheBoss]

Oh crap.

This is bad.

[gump1480]

Ffs

[458 Italia]

I can't believe this!!!

[ferrari1.8t]

Never goes our way, never.

[Greig]

Charles pit. Mediums on good job.

[hakanabi]

When you give full power to that engine, it looks like it can't take it. :-(

[458 Italia]

Charles pits.

[Greig]

Please no issues for Charles as that would finish us off this season.

[RossTheBoss]

Marshalls running away when the car is on fire!!! what on earth
Disgrace.

I'm worried about Leclerc's PU now...

Clearly the engine department still hasn't gotten it together.

[WS6TransAm01]

Finally they realize you have to pit in times like this.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Do these engineers have no dynos? Can't afford due to budget cap?

[458 Italia]

Lack of reliability rears its ugly head yet again.

[drax]

Another race, just no more issues please

[Hornet]

We have some serious issue with our PU reliability

[totox]

Disgrace.

I'm worried about Leclerc's PU now...

Clearly the engine department still hasn't gotten it together.

This are gonna be the more stressfully 10 laps

[ferrari1.8t]

Please no issues for Charles as that would finish us off this season.

This x2. We need to finish this race p-1.

[Greig]

Wow that engine detonated

[faloupas]

And i was ready to say that today it was an amazing performance by car,drivers and the whole team...lets hope Charles will finish the race

[Greig]

Race green again, but now we just wait for Charles to blow up???

[WS6TransAm01]

That’s a good old fashioned kaboom!

[RossTheBoss]

Please don't let this be another Baku!

[totox]

That altitude of this circuit is very harsh with the PUs

[Greig]

Charles now on radio saying throttle feels funny....here we go

[ferrari1.8t]

What’s worse another free podium for Hamilton. Luckiest driver in history

[Greig]

Max can push now also when it would have been a nice cruise home....

[Greig]

Throttle ok now says Charles.

[WS6TransAm01]

My heart can’t handle this.

[hakanabi]

Wow that engine detonated

Looked like someone sabotaged and fitted a tnt in there amd the moment he was side by side with max, it went boom!

[458 Italia]

What’s worse another free podium for Hamilton. Luckiest driver in history

Yep he's been gifted a podium.

[drax]

Argggg

[Ferrari312T4]

We need reliability upgrades.

[ferrari1.8t]

Max has a chance still….unbelievable. This was our race. Can things ever go our way?

[458 Italia]

You can just tell that croft enjoyed that Ferrari failure.

[da_one]

Memories of the BMW Williams bombs in the early 2000's.... superpowerful engines, totally unreliable :-(

[totox]

It's time for Charles to give everything. Max will destroy his tires before him

[RossTheBoss]

Max has a chance still….unbelievable. This was our race. Can things ever go our way?
I sometimes wonder if Ferrari are cursed since Schumi left.

[Greig]

Mick P6 :clap

[WS6TransAm01]

This is going to be the longest 7minutes ever.

[Tifoso Svedese]

I see no way Charles can win the title when this keeps happening to the engines. Better enjoy today if he reaches the chequered flag.

[ferrari1.8t]

You can just tell that croft enjoyed that Ferrari failure.

Oh ya. He loves to hate Ferrari. Almost as much as he loves hamilton

[Greig]

Charles again on the radio about the throttle.....but gap is still remaining.

[Ferrari312T4]

Now Leclerc has a paddle problem...

[WS6TransAm01]

And something with the throttle again. Come on.

[458 Italia]

Oh no Charles reporting problems!

[Tifoso Svedese]

*insert Ferrari problem here*

[Greig]

Throttle getting stuck open

[458 Italia]

Throttle getting stuck.

[458 Italia]

This is not fun!

[JChan]

5 laps to go! cross finger! not more than 10 mins!

[Greig]

Charles to use his foot to lift the pedal up....Max getting closer.

[totox]

Please Charles bring it home!

[458 Italia]

Max gaining on him.

[JChan]

4 laps less than 8 mins!

[DJTaurus]

They had almost 2 years to develop this car……

[drax]

I cannot watch this

[hakanabi]

What an unreliable car this is :-(

[Greig]

Cmon Charles, this is Schumiesque if you can do it....

[458 Italia]

Please don't spin coz of the throttle.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Ferrari make frigging Austria seem like a long circuit with four laps dammit.

[da_one]

Let's pray for backmarker delays for Max

[458 Italia]

I can't take this!

[Greig]

3 laps the gap is ok, come on Charles.

[Greig]

Downshift problem now....

[458 Italia]

Oh just get it home for the love of God!

[Greig]

2 laps, gap increased come on!!!!!

[458 Italia]

Sky loving our problems.

[drax]

Just a bit more please, pleas

[Greig]

Come on!!!!

[JChan]

IT's CL!!!! P1!

[hakanabi]

My heart is about to stop

[Greig]

Awesome Charles what a drive

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl :ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[tifosi1993]

YESSSSS

[drax]

YES, YES, YES

[Greig]

Sainz team will refuse to go the podium now :-D

[458 Italia]

GET IN!!!

[Tifoso Svedese]

Phew!

Amazing driver.

We can't win the title with issues like this though. Sorry for both drivers at the moment.

[RossTheBoss]

Thank you racing gods! :ferrarifl

[faloupas]

Clearly we deserved more the last two races

[Greig]

Good strategy, poor reliability once again....

[jgonzalesm6]

GREAT JOB LECERC.....P1.

[WS6TransAm01]

I need a drink.

[458 Italia]

merc celebrating like they've won :rotfl

[drax]

Almost a 1,2

[hakanabi]

Man, I almost end up with an heart attack, well done Charles, this win was long overdue.

[Greig]

Charles on the radio delighted, says was very scared towards the end.

[tifosi1993]

Good strategy, poor reliability once again....

Yeah that reliability upgrade can't come soon enough.

[da_one]

Thanks, Mick!

[F2008]

Charles!!!:ferrarifl

[KimiBot]

:clap

[Hornet]

Crazy drive by Charles today.
Finally, after so many bad races that was not his fault, a well deserve win

[RossTheBoss]

Charles on the radio delighted, says was very scared towards the end.
I admit, I was terrified there at the end. Felt like it was about to go away completely.

[Schumiklub]

Whew! That was close! Go Charles! Such a big shame for Carlos, we were easily dominating the race up to that point.

[WS6TransAm01]

It’s a shame we lost the 1-2.

Seeing Mic with points again is nice.

Hate to see Hamilton gifted another podium.

[gump1480]

It's either strategy or the car....again how many points we lost in championship. Again Mercs getting the most championship points in a race.

[Greig]

Should also make the no1 driver decision come forward from what Binotto said....

[hakanabi]

Mick finished 6th :-D

[Schumiklub]

Mick was amazing today! P6!

[drax]

Mick P6 is pretty impressive

[Kyss4k]

I was prepared to celebrate like a maniac... why did we manage to mess it up again. Pace was great, drivers were awesome, strategy was on point, pit stops fantastic... but the "superfast" engine showed how "superunreliable" it is. It should have been an easy 1-2.

But such a great drive from CL. Overtaking his rival 3 times during a race... that has to be demoralising for Verstappen.

[hakanabi]

I need a drink.

Me too. :lol

[da_one]

Max has really matured after winning the title last year. Kudos to him for not giving Charles a hard time overtaking. If it was immature Max, he would have punted Charles or Carlos just because he is Mad Max.

[drax]

Unreliability is normal … we are pushing the envelope

[Greig]

Max has really matured after winning the title last year. Kudos to him for not giving Charles a hard time overtaking. If it was immature Max, he would have punted Charles or Carlos just because he is Mad Max.

Agreed but he also knows he has a big gap.

[Hornet]

Should also make the no1 driver decision come forward from what Binotto said....

Exactly, there should not be any more doubts on this. If we want the title, we have to be 100% behind Charles now

[da_one]

Agreed but he also knows he has a big gap.

Pretty sure if it was Lewis, things would be different:lol

[Tifoso Svedese]

Pretty sure if it was Lewis, things would be different:lol

Lewis did the customary frigging strict defence on old tyres on him :lol

[tifosi1993]

Need to fix this reliability, performance is there.

Mekies needs to be at the pitwall at every grand prix.

[WS6TransAm01]

Max has really matured after winning the title last year. Kudos to him for not giving Charles a hard time overtaking. If it was immature Max, he would have punted Charles or Carlos just because he is Mad Max.

He would not have been as kind to Hamilton and I like that.

Max has known Charles for a long time. I think there is mutual respect between those two that Max didn’t have, rightfully so, for Hamilton.

[RossTheBoss]

Red Bull lost their straight line advantage. Ferrari have regained their traction and cornering advantage. There's potential for the team in France and Hungary, which will suit the Ferrari even better.

Good for Leclerc to get the monkey off his back! Reminded me of Alonso out there.

[Greig]

He would not have been as kind to Hamilton and I like that.

Max has known Charles for a long time. I think there is mutual respect between those two that Max didn’t have, rightfully so, for Hamilton.

Yeah they grew up racing each other and have had some tussles but they clearly respect each other.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max has known Charles for a long time. I think there is mutual respect between those two that Max didn’t have, rightfully so, for Hamilton.

They karted together.....so yeah.

[WS6TransAm01]

They karted together.....so yeah.

That’s what I mean. Yes.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Red Bull lost their straight line advantage. Ferrari have regained their traction and cornering advantage. There's potential for the team in France and Hungary, which will suit the Ferrari even better.

Good for Leclerc to get the monkey off his back! Reminded me of Alonso out there.

With a mediterranean heat wave coming up with three long straights (kaboom!) I'm not all that confident about Paul Ricard. I have a bad feeling about that race.

Hungary on the other hand should be a great circuit with all this corner speed.

[Schumiklub]

Mick driver of the day! What a great drive from him.

[Greig]

2 wins in a row for Ferrari and we still feel disappointed, halfway so let's hope we get through the races intact before the break.

[nani_s23]

Great job by Charles. Watching those overtakes against Max … I felt really happy.
Payback at the same venue where he was pushed off track by Max.

Max is more matured now. Not taking unnecessary risks, that what title gives you, some experience.

Feel sad for Sainz 4th DNF of the season. Would have been 1-2 finish easily.

[patrese86]

Get in Charles! Will watch the race replay later!

[330 p4]

Unreliability is normal … we are pushing the envelope

Especially this year. Engines fixed until end of 2025. If played safe would be behind for years, have to push limits and if unreliable this year are allowed reliability upgrades. If had played it safe would not be fighting for racing wins.

[WS6TransAm01]

Two more races like this and I’ll need Xanax to be able to watch.

[nani_s23]

2 wins in a row for Ferrari and we still feel disappointed, halfway so let's hope we get through the races intact before the break.

Charles aim was win 4/4 in this month before going to the break so that everyone can feel title is on the cards.

We won 2/2….

Im concerned about our reliability.

[Hornet]

Well done to Mick too, P6 in a Haas, wow :thumb

[ferrari1.8t]

Forza Ferrari! Forza Charles! Shame for Carlos, the 1-2 would have been amazing. 2 Ferrari wins in a row and things are starting to shift mid-season. Let’s get some reliability upgrades and label our # 1!

Letsssss Gooo! Yes!

[nani_s23]

Great job by Haas team. What a drive by Mick… he’s getting there.

They didn’t bring any upgrades & done excellent job today.

[nani_s23]

On the other side, I see a engine penalty coming up for Sainz. Let’s see when he takes this up.

[tifosi1993]

https://i.ibb.co/prTwsqX/Screenshot-2022-07-10-204246-standard-scale-2-00x-cropped.jpg

Looks like the Turbo got pretty much destroyed.

[Ferrarichamp]

it's nice to see RB on a mini losing streak.

[da_one]

https://i.ibb.co/prTwsqX/Screenshot-2022-07-10-204246-standard-scale-2-00x-cropped.jpg

Looks like the Turbo got pretty much destroyed.

Ouch! Aside from the inevitable grid place penalty, this will surely cause a dent in the budget cap. :-s

[nani_s23]

https://i.ibb.co/prTwsqX/Screenshot-2022-07-10-204246-standard-scale-2-00x-cropped.jpg

Looks like the Turbo got pretty much destroyed.

That looked horrible on board. He controlled it & parked at right spot.

[jgonzalesm6]

Unreliability is normal … we are pushing the envelope


Need to fix this reliability, performance is there.
.


Especially this year. Engines fixed until end of 2025. If played safe would be behind for years, have to push limits and if unreliable this year are allowed reliability upgrades. If had played it safe would not be fighting for racing wins.

It's a new engine for 2022 compared to the past(2014 thru 2021).....so these reliability issues are going to happen. I give it 2 years tops to fix.

[nani_s23]

it's nice to see RB on a mini losing streak.

If we can get a win in next French GP. Then Hungary should be ours.

[Tifoso Svedese]

On the other side, I see a engine penalty coming up for Sainz. Let’s see when he takes this up.

If we can have a reliability upgrade ready for Spa that would seem like the perfect time.

[jgonzalesm6]

https://i.ibb.co/prTwsqX/Screenshot-2022-07-10-204246-standard-scale-2-00x-cropped.jpg

Looks like the Turbo got pretty much destroyed.

That's not gonna help in the cost cap budget.

[nani_s23]

It's a new engine for 2022 compared to the past(2014 thru 2021).....so these reliability issues are going to happen. I give it 2 years tops to fix.

Indeed, they can request FIA on reliability ground & gain some performance as well:-D cheeky F1 rules

[jgonzalesm6]

Ouch! Aside from the inevitable grid place penalty, this will surely cause a dent in the budget cap. :-s

agreed.

[RossTheBoss]

https://i.ibb.co/prTwsqX/Screenshot-2022-07-10-204246-standard-scale-2-00x-cropped.jpg

Looks like the Turbo got pretty much destroyed.
Those marshals should be fired. Sainz almost got burned and they were just around.

Once again, F1 has **** poor safety.

[nani_s23]

That's not gonna help in the cost cap budget.

I assume it’s raised by some amount right?

[330 p4]

It's a new engine for 2022 compared to the past(2014 thru 2021).....so these reliability issues are going to happen. I give it 2 years tops to fix.

Start of next year will be fine.

[Greig]

Those marshals should be fired. Sainz almost got burned and they were just around.

Once again, F1 has **** poor safety.

Watched it back and the marshall ran back to get a wedge to block the wheels, should have dealt with the fire firstly I thought and get Carlos away.

[stasera]

1-2 double would have been incredibly. it would have made verstappen 3rd. so that means leclerc will melt the gap between him and verstappen.

and leclerc, what kind of driver are you?
he slapped Maxipad 3 times!!

[gump1480]

Those marshals should be fired. Sainz almost got burned and they were just around.

Once again, F1 has **** poor safety.

Same thought...I was shocked to see Sainz in the burning car shouting at the Marshalls to put a wedge and put off the fire

[WS6TransAm01]

Ideally Carlos takes penalty in France or has to wait till Spa.

Coming through the field in Hungary is not an easy task.

Hungary should suit the Ferrari based on Quali in Monaco. No idea how France will play out.

[jgonzalesm6]

I assume it’s raised by some amount right?

3.1%

[gump1480]

1-2 double would have been incredibly. it would have made verstappen 3rd. so that means leclerc will melt the gap between him and verstappen.

and leclerc, what kind of driver are you?
he slapped Maxipad 3 times!!

The first time was great...proper overtake. The other 2 times...were writing on the wall.

[jgonzalesm6]

Start of next year will be fine.

I hope your right.

[WS6TransAm01]

Same thought...I was shocked to see Sainz in the burning car shouting to Marshalls to put a wedge and put off the fire

It was a total crap show. Poor kid is trying to keep his foot on the brake so it doesn’t roll back and the track side guys are running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

[da_one]

Lewis should be given a Liftetime Lucky (Not Achievement) Award. How many times has he been rewarded a podium place due to drivers DNFing in front of him? :lol

[WS6TransAm01]

Lewis should be given a Liftetime Lucky (Not Achievement) Award. How many times has he been rewarded a podium place due to drivers DNFing in front of him? :lol

That’s why I call him the Affirmative Action Champion.

[da_one]

That’s why I call him the Affirmative Action Champion.

:rotfl

[totox]

France always give me some bad feelings. Never won there if I remember correctly. It's cursed.

[nani_s23]

Start of next year will be fine.

Yup we will have winter testing .. which should give some mileage on those PU & fix any reliability issues.

[nani_s23]

France always give me some bad feelings. Never won there if I remember correctly. It's cursed.

Charles replied to you:
Charles: "I can’t wait for France! I’m confident. Our car is performing so there’s no reason for it not to be perform there!"

[nani_s23]

Mattia Binotto on the radio to Charles Leclerc:

“You made the difference that a champion makes. Bravo, I'm happy for you.

[da_one]

Yup we will have winter testing .. which should give some mileage on those PU & fix any reliability issues.

While hoping for the Mercedes engine to be reliable this year so they will be stuck behind us and RB for the next 4 years:lol

[stasera]

what I told you guys is------------> :-P


I do not agree on that. Because there is only one very long straight in Austria. The starting straight is medium lenght. It's like in Barcelona. Even though the 3rd straight is the DRS area, but it is difficult to pass bcz its not too long. Already Redbull cars manage to be faster than Ferraris towards the end of the straight not the starting. but already ferrari cars cover the distance faster than redbulls and In addition, track-team harmony does not mean much. Because many times, they won on tracks that were suitable for our vehicles. Why not vice versa. Besides, our car is not slow either. Plus there's the Charles factor. Incredibly fast, he will definitely take the pole, and he will break his unluckiness.

as sebastian once said "the man of the future" and "the most talented driver I came across in 15 years of F1" and urged the 23-year-old "not to waste it" i have eternal trust in him

[da_one]

Mattia Binotto on the radio to Charles Leclerc:

“You made the difference that a champion makes. Bravo, I'm happy for you.

Was he wagging his finger in the pitwall while talking to Charles? :-P

[nani_s23]

This year racing is more interesting amongst midfield teams.

At one point in today’s race 4 or 5cars in 1st DRS zone trying to overtake each other at the same time & getting out Un-scratched incredible.

[alfaromeo]

With this car Ferrari from beginning 2022 they can fight for win every race. That is excellent but the reliability of the car is a problem, which personally does not surprise me with the increase in form, especially the power of the engine. Forza ferrari.

[da_one]

I feel for Carlos when he was sitting on the hill while waiting for his ride back to the pits. He knew from now on, he would have to be Driver No.2 to Charles No. 1 for the remainder of the season.

[ntukza]

What’s worse another free podium for Hamilton. Luckiest driver in history

I don't understand how you lot are still obsessed with Hamilton. Can you not function without mentioning him?

[nani_s23]

SkyF1 reports Haas team got the ERS upgrade for this track.

Not sure how much it’s true.

[Greig]

Nobody calling the team clowns and for Binotto to be sacked yet? Guess if it was the other car detonating then we would see that :-D

[nani_s23]

Nobody calling the team clowns and for Binotto to be sacked yet? Guess if it was the other car detonating then we would see that :-D

Laurent Mekies is back for this GP:-D

[nani_s23]

Binotto: "I was as nervous as Charles was [pedal issues]. I stopped watching the race. But Charles is able to handle everything. He is a champion!. I was a bit disappointed in Silverstone, and today too, but I’m happy for Charles and for us! Two wins in a row and here in Red Bull's home!
We can fight for wins and will keep on fighting. We just need to work on reliability.”

[Greig]

I think someone has had a word with Binotto that Ferrari will be backing Charles over him.....

[faloupas]

Nobody calling the team clowns and for Binotto to be sacked yet? Guess if it was the other car detonating then we would see that :-D

Winning today cannot erase past races faults.
Binnotos statements are not making sense many times.
Today all the team,the car and the drivers performed as every Ferrari fan wants.
Carlos was unlucky and we lost some good points.Overall feeling is good,there is still hope for recovering and fight for both championships.

[PURE PASSION]

Nobody calling the team clowns and for Binotto to be sacked yet? Guess if it was the other car detonating then we would see that :-D

It's 1 thing the reliability, and another the strategy calls. I don't think anyone calling the team clowns on Lecs dnf.

[ferrari1.8t]

I don't understand how you lot are still obsessed with Hamilton. Can you not function without mentioning him?

I think he and his championships are a stain on F1. I also can’t stand the luck the always seems to have and yet he still complains like he is treated differently/poorly. It’s not just me, others feel the same on this forum. Thanks :wave

[SilverSpeed]

Charles yes woo-hoo.

Also Mick is becoming better in his 2nd season, like in previous classes he had his best year during the 2nd one.

[Tifoso Svedese]

The question is just whether we can actually go on a run. There have only been one three-peat in the post-Michael era (Spa, Monza, Singapore '19).

Getting one in France is a potential gamechanger in the momentum.

[ferrari1.8t]

Nobody calling the team clowns and for Binotto to be sacked yet? Guess if it was the other car detonating then we would see that :-D

They made all the right calls today and used a proper strategy. Yes, luckily it was not Charles that went up in smoke. His championship battle would have been over for sure. We definitely need some reliability upgrades and fast. Too bad we didn’t get the 1-2, especially with Perez DNF.

[Greig]

Charles yes woo-hoo.

Also Mick is becoming better in his 2nd season, like in previous classes he had his best year during the 2nd one.

Yeah seems to be a pattern, hopefully he keeps up this form.

[nani_s23]

On the subject of Ferrari engines, Haas' Kevin Magnussen told he had an engine issue all race and he was just "praying to God that it wouldn't blow up, which it didn't". He finished P8, with team mate Mick P6.

Bottas too reported engine issues.

[ferrari1.8t]

On the subject of Ferrari engines, Haas' Kevin Magnussen told he had an engine issue all race and he was just "praying to God that it wouldn't blow up, which it didn't". He finished P8, with team mate Mick P6.

Bottas too reported engine issues.

Not good news. Or it can be a positive if we know what the issue is and the FIA let’s us repair it because of reliability. They should, especially if it’s effecting all our or teams.

[nani_s23]

Not good news. Or it can be a positive if we know what the issue is and the FIA let’s us repair it because of reliability. They should, especially if it’s effecting all our or teams.

Binotto said it would be a temporary fix only because they didn’t have enough mileage on these new engines.

[ntukza]

I think he and his championships are a stain on F1. I also can’t stand the luck the always seems to have and yet he still complains like he is treated differently/poorly. It’s not just me, others feel the same on this forum. Thanks :wave

Yes, I know that others feel the same, that's why I said you LOT and not just you. I didn't enjoy watching Lewis win last season and the previous, and come to the brink of breaking the record of my all-time favourite driver. But when he's not winning and he's not going toe to toe with our drivers I couldn't care less about him. He can come third every race, as long as he's finishing behind our drivers I don't care. I just don't understand how this season race after race you lot still find it necessary to make comments about Hamilton. There are 17 other drivers on the grid.

[ntukza]

Binotto said it would be a temporary fix only because they didn’t have enough mileage on these new engines.

So FIA allowed us to introduce engines without enough mileage? Isn't there a minimum?

[ntukza]

I feel for Carlos when he was sitting on the hill while waiting for his ride back to the pits. He knew from now on, he would have to be Driver No.2 to Charles No. 1 for the remainder of the season.

If Leclerc had suffered a reliability failure and dropped behind Carlos on points as a result, would you guys be happy for him to be relegated to a supporting role? I wouldn't. Therefore I don't think that decision should be based on a reliability result. If Carlos bins it and loses out as a result then yes, but for reliability no.

[elnano14]

Summons for Charles Leclerc - Breach of Parc Fermé instructions
8054
FFS

[ferrari1.8t]

Summons for Charles Leclerc - Breach of Parc Fermé instructions
8054
FFS

Supposedly Hamilton and Verstappen as well. But no word on what the breach is?

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/leclerc-verstappen-and-hamilton-summoned-over-parc-ferme-breach/10336400/

[nani_s23]

Summons for Charles Leclerc - Breach of Parc Fermé instructions
8054
FFS

Hopefully it’s just a fine of some$$

[JPZ]

So no doubts now that Sainz will be supporting Leclerc for the WDC.

[nani_s23]

Supposedly Hamilton and Verstappen as well. But no word on what the breach is?

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/leclerc-verstappen-and-hamilton-summoned-over-parc-ferme-breach/10336400/

Relating to driver weight. Physio intervened before FIA weigh the driver.

[PURE PASSION]

If Leclerc had suffered a reliability failure and dropped behind Carlos on points as a result, would you guys be happy for him to be relegated to a supporting role? I wouldn't. Therefore I don't think that decision should be based on a reliability result. If Carlos bins it and loses out as a result then yes, but for reliability no.

Well on pure performance, there was not 1 race where he proved that he is better then Lec. Only for external reasons and mostly teams mistakes for Lec ,he managed to be close to Lec points wise. So surely I wasn't happy AT ALL for his dnf ,simply because we lost 18 points to constructors and Ves gained that 3 extra points (from 3d to 2nd) and it also gave him the opportunity to take the FLthat gave him another 1 point.
But for all the other matters, again wasn't happy but hope that noe the team has the excuse they want to support fully Lec. And I don't speak as Lec fan.Im 100% team Ferrari fan.Its just that till today Lec have saw me that he is the fastest more capable driver that we can rely to fight for the championship. Sainz hasn't at all.
If miraculously Sainz start defeating Lec continually on pure performance then I will wish that the team will back him instead. BUT he hasn't and he probably never will .

[Greig]

If Leclerc had suffered a reliability failure and dropped behind Carlos on points as a result, would you guys be happy for him to be relegated to a supporting role? I wouldn't. Therefore I don't think that decision should be based on a reliability result. If Carlos bins it and loses out as a result then yes, but for reliability no.

Makes no real difference, I doubt anyone really considers Carlos as a title challenger when he is out-performed by Charles. Backing the slower driver is not going to help anyone.

[PURE PASSION]

Summons for Charles Leclerc - Breach of Parc Fermé instructions
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FFS.

Investigation is related to drivers procedure on the podion, nothing related to cars. So, no drama.

[Greig]

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Investigation is related to drivers procedure on the podion, nothing related to cars. So, no drama.

FIA just topping up the office party funds $$$$

[wisepie]

So relieved that it wasn't Charles who had to DNF today but sorry for Carlos and the team, valuable points gone again and so close to 1-2. Both drivers had great race pace but Charles was on another level and showed what he's made of, without our reliability issues and strategy mistakes, Charles would be leading Max in the WDC. That engine is now toast so more penalties to come for Carlos and probably Charles if it can't be fixed quickly. My blood pressure for those last laps was sky high, but he held it together and I am so proud of him.

[nani_s23]

So relieved that it wasn't Charles who had to DNF today but sorry for Carlos and the team, valuable points gone again and so close to 1-2. Both drivers had great race pace but Charles was on another level and showed what he's made of, without our reliability issues and strategy mistakes, Charles would be leading Max in the WDC. That engine is now toast so more penalties to come for Carlos and probably Charles if it can't be fixed quickly. My blood pressure for those last laps was sky high, but he held it together and I am so proud of him.

many ferrari engine issues in just 1st half of the season. Hopefully ferrari doesn’t jinx it 2nd half which is crucial for Lec & team to win WDC or WCC

[WS6TransAm01]

Today the pit wall didn’t fail but the engine department did.

Why oh why do we seem to get either or but not both.

[PURE PASSION]

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[ferrari1.8t]

FIA just topping up the office party funds $$$$

Yup!

Following a hearing on Sunday evening, the stewards opted to hand all three teams a suspended fine of €10,000.

[patrese86]

Funny hearing Toto thinking Mercedes have a car capable of winning when they were 40 seconds behind Charles when Sainz engine went and similar thing in Barcelona. Our reliability has actually masked how bad they have been.

[RossTheBoss]

Great result for the team. Clearly the Silverstone package has turned the car around. On a track where straight line was so important, Ferrari pounded Red Bull.

Obviously reliability is still a terror. The team would be wise to tack PU5 for Charles and let him do the work to get pole and regain the 5 places. Clearly the ICE can only last 3 races or so.

[Kyss4k]

Funny hearing Toto thinking Mercedes have a car capable of winning when they were 40 seconds behind Charles when Sainz engine went and similar thing in Barcelona. Our reliability has actually masked how bad they have been.

Yeah, ours and Redbulls pace is ludicrous and even though Mercedes made quite a progress, they are not yet at this level. Not even close.

[jgonzalesm6]

Clearly the ICE can only last 3 races or so.

You sure it was the ICE that blew up????

[paolo lalli]

Ferrar must get to the bottom of there engine issues , they built it they know it now fix it.The reasons why how when and where must be resolved. Sure a great victory by ferrari with back to back wins but nervous ones they are.The only thing that will beat ferrari is ferrari its self.

[RossTheBoss]

You sure it was the ICE that blew up????
It sounded like it from the onboard. That throaty gasp before the kaboom.

[Redfive]

So happy for Charles, those last few laps had me so nervous. Sad for Carlos, woah that engine went kablam old style!
Hopefully they can reassemble all the remaining bits and find out the cause of the failure and fix it from doing it again.

Great race by Mick, well deserved 6th.

[Greig]

Funny hearing Toto thinking Mercedes have a car capable of winning when they were 40 seconds behind Charles when Sainz engine went and similar thing in Barcelona. Our reliability has actually masked how bad they have been.

40 seconds behind on a such a short track is massive.

[patrese86]

Yeah, ours and Redbulls pace is ludicrous and even though Mercedes made quite a progress, they are not yet at this level. Not even close.

One of the shortest tracks as well which doesn't get mentioned.

^Greig mentions it lol

[stasera]

i was telling that sainz was slow as hell. but he was getting fast since the last few races. he could not beat charles but, slapped maxipad easly even a few times.

i remember that he said that "i cant drive automaticly and i need to think how to drive"

i think he is finally getting used to the car. so till end of the season he will have crushed Perez. im so happy he got rid of gravels

[stefa]

I was not able to watch the race tohday, as I am on vacation in London. I have checked results and oh boy what good news it was! Sad about CS, as he would bring more points to CWC, and take away from MV!

[Tifoso Svedese]

I was not able to watch the race tohday, as I am on vacation in London. I have checked results and oh boy what good news it was! Sad about CS, as he would bring more points to CWC, and take away from MV!

I'm hearing you brought some Belgrade heat over to Britain is that true? :-D

[elnano14]

Any information about the causing of throttle pedal problem ?

[Tony]

2 frustrating weekends in a row... should have been two 1-2's... really gutted...

[Jax]

If Leclerc had suffered a reliability failure and dropped behind Carlos on points as a result, would you guys be happy for him to be relegated to a supporting role? I wouldn't. Therefore I don't think that decision should be based on a reliability result. If Carlos bins it and loses out as a result then yes, but for reliability no.

Following your logic, Sainz should retire one more time with engine issues to even things out. Charles is the better driver deal with it.

[patrese86]

Does anyone have a full breakdown of lap times through the race?

[jgonzalesm6]

It sounded like it from the onboard. That throaty gasp before the kaboom.

Maybe it was turbo related. Maybe it was MGU-H related. Maybe it was a fuel line that leaked fuel onto the components of the ICE.

[Gilles]

Does anyone have a full breakdown of lap times through the race?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXVGTKIWYAko7VE?format=jpg&name=small

Give the kid the team!

[stefa]

Makes no real difference, I doubt anyone really considers Carlos as a title challenger when he is out-performed by Charles. Backing the slower driver is not going to help anyone.

:thumb

[stefa]

I'm hearing you brought some Belgrade heat over to Britain is that true? :-D

It is! I thought I'll run away from Belgrades 40C to pleasant London 25C. But here is around 30 plus every day. Not complaining, better that than rain :-D

[Gilles]

Mattia Binotto on the radio to Charles Leclerc:

“You made the difference that a champion makes. Bravo, I'm happy for you.

What a joke!
And Sylverstone?
"The team made a big mistake that an amateur makes"

Give the kid the team!

[Gilles]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXVGTKIWYAko7VE?format=jpg&name=small

Give the kid the team!

Quite curious the Sainz' pace gain sudently
Not surprised he lost the turbo, but how can he gain that much and what was he doing?

Give the kid the team!

[Lebaronrouge]

40 seconds behind on a such a short track is massive.

The race with 300 km, as every other race except Monaco. The length of the track is not relevant here.

[paolo lalli]

2 more race wins by either of our drivers and by denying max it will be game on after summers break.

[nani_s23]

SkyF1 reports Haas team got the ERS upgrade for this track.

Not sure how much it’s true.

No upgrades. Confirmed

[nani_s23]

#AMus reports that the RB18 has gained some weight again after the recent upgrades that Red Bull have brought. It is said to be around 10kg over the minimum weight.

[nani_s23]

#AMus Binotto on Carlos's PU failure: "It is very likely that the engine had the same issue as Charles's PU in Baku. Of course we are concerned. But we are working flat out on solutions that we hope to bring to the track soon."

[nani_s23]

#AMus Carlos Sainz is likely facing an engine grid penalty in France.

[nani_s23]

Binotto to #AMuS about Charles's throttle pedal issue: "The first analysis reveals a mechanical problem, not an electronic one."


Oh dear it could have been worse again 2DNFs in a single race

[ntukza]

Well on pure performance, there was not 1 race where he proved that he is better then Lec. Only for external reasons and mostly teams mistakes for Lec ,he managed to be close to Lec points wise. So surely I wasn't happy AT ALL for his dnf ,simply because we lost 18 points to constructors and Ves gained that 3 extra points (from 3d to 2nd) and it also gave him the opportunity to take the FLthat gave him another 1 point.
But for all the other matters, again wasn't happy but hope that noe the team has the excuse they want to support fully Lec. And I don't speak as Lec fan.Im 100% team Ferrari fan.Its just that till today Lec have saw me that he is the fastest more capable driver that we can rely to fight for the championship. Sainz hasn't at all.
If miraculously Sainz start defeating Lec continually on pure performance then I will wish that the team will back him instead. BUT he hasn't and he probably never will .

Good point. I agree with you on the performance argument.

[ntukza]

40 seconds behind on a such a short track is massive.

40 seconds is 40 seconds no matter the track. ;-)

[ntukza]

Following your logic, Sainz should retire one more time with engine issues to even things out. Charles is the better driver deal with it.

What makes you think I can't deal with that? The way you started your comment is ironic because you seem to have failed to follow the logic of my post.

[Honzus]

40 seconds is 40 seconds no matter the track. ;-)

I think it matters a bit because on shorter track you get faster into a traffic and you lose more time with overtaking backmarkers. So my rough estimation is that 40 s on shorter track is something like a minute on a track like Spa ;-)

[nani_s23]

Binotto: We had a disadvantage compared to Red Bull in terms of top speed, & it was mainly due to the effectiveness of their DRS. We intervened with a new rear wing. With it we closed the gap in terms of speed on the straights, they now only have a minimal advantage.

The PU failure on Carlos's car sounds like something very similar to what happened in Azerbaijan. At Maranello we are working hard to find a remedy /solution.These are problems that worry us for the next races, not in the medium to long term because I am convinced that as a team we will be able to solve them.

Red Bull brought [upgrades] to Silverstone and the situation has not changed. It's a fight of very few tenths, maybe just one tenth that divides us. Every time we bring something new it works, in Silverstone even the new engine bonnet helped us.

[nani_s23]

Binotto: We have a very high-performance PU & this gives me hope for the future when we have found a way to make it reliable as well.For interventions of this kind you need time: you have to design new components, produce them, homologate them for reliability. A few weeks are not enough. In the short term we will try to manage it in terms of mileage.”


What we can conclude is, in next races engine can blow up at any time or may not. So it’s nervous situation when Charles or Carlos leading a race or behind.

[Ferrarichamp]

Max also had DNF's in the early part of the season.
Realistically, we need him to DNF again so we can fight for the titles.

[Greig]

The race with 300 km, as every other race except Monaco. The length of the track is not relevant here.

9 corners - short track it does make a big difference.

[jgonzalesm6]

Fans tore up the track. Freakin idiots.

I hope RedBull puts a stop to this idiotic behavior and over the weekend with regards to sexual harassement.

[scudieros]

glad for the win, and the pit stops and strategy were awesome today. faultless. real shame about the reliability though, we need a fix asap without compromising on performance though.

a few more races like this and we are back in it.

[Riccardog]

so you guys thought Charles won the race........ right??????
Think again .... according to these graphics, he wasn't even on the podium..... :lol:rotfl:wave

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/motorsports/f1-made-hilarious-lewis-hamilton-and-max-verstappen-mistake-during-austrian-gp-ceremony/ar-AAZrC7p?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=74b1abadf9cb4c63b06d378c29fe57e0

[Greig]

Fans tore up the track. Freakin idiots.

I hope RedBull puts a stop to this idiotic behavior and over the weekend with regards to sexual harassement.

Lewis and Max really have attracted some scumbag fans.

[phsyklone]

This video explains the cause of sainz engine blow out and much of Ferraris reliability woes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCNeg8bbZ34