2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Race Thread

[tifosi1993]

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[Greig]

Some rain showers around but expected to be clear for the race start.

[Gilles]

What is planned today, how will they destroy Charles' race
Don’t tell me they won’t, they do it since Spain, without failing

Give the kid the team!

[nani_s23]

Hopefully no drama between our drivers on track today. One of them should attack, other one sit back & protect tyres for late attack.

[nhiepka]

Why dont they hire Flavio to be director race? He is real Italian and very smart, we need this man.

[Gilles]

Why dont they hire Flavio to be director race? He is real Italian and very smart, we need this man.

Just because he fails to hide his evil side

Give the kid the team!

[Greig]

Hopefully we get a clean start, much cooler than yesterday which will probably help the tyres.

[Greig]

Any of our experts want to post the winning strategy before the race? :-D

[nani_s23]

Any of our experts want to post the winning strategy before the race? :-D

:rotfl that’s what we have being a tifosi. Which no other team fan base have.

[Greig]

Brake issue for Lewis, team working on it on the grid.

[ntukza]

If it rains we're screwed. If there's a safety car we're screwed. Anything that calls for quick strategic calls and it's game over for us.

[ferrari1.8t]

Brake issue for Lewis, team working on it on the grid.

Thought your not allowed to make changes to the car on the grid?

[nani_s23]

If it rains we're screwed. If there's a safety car we're screwed. Anything that calls for quick strategic calls and it's game over for us.

:rotfl

[RossTheBoss]

So, how will Ferrari screw the pooch today? Will it be the team? Luck? Dumb driving? :roll

[RossTheBoss]

:rotfl
In the words of Metallica: SAD BUT TRUE!

[Hornet]

How I would want the race to unfold is that Charles quickly pass Max at the start for the lead.
And then Carlos takes P2 say during the pit stop, and then there's sufficient gap between him and Charles that we will not see any insane fight between them, just bring home the 1-2

[Greig]

Cooler temps prob push most to a 1 stop, but we should be alert to Red Bull using Perez on a 2 stop to force us to react.

[RossTheBoss]

Wonder who's going to be a sleeper? Princess, Ichabod Crane, or Perez?

[Greig]

Nobody starting on softs, top 12 on mediums rest on hards.

[RossTheBoss]

Cooler temps prob push most to a 1 stop, but we should be alert to Red Bull using Perez on a 2 stop to force us to react.
Split strategies would be wise, but then wise ain't the walls thing right now.

[RossTheBoss]

Hard to imagine Max screwing up today. He's been driving smooth lately.

[Greig]

Hopefully by the time the smoke clears Max is P3 :-D

[RossTheBoss]

Always put ones expectations low for Ferrari for starts. Good race pace, but these starts have been a real cluster**** for the team in the past few years.

[WS6TransAm01]

What are the fan cause problems these guys are talking about?

[jgonzalesm6]

What are the fan cause problems these guys are talking about?

unruly behavior

[Greig]

Bye Perez :-D

[Greig]

Perez pits for hard, lots of damage says Ted.

[elnano14]

Good, no Perez, Mercedes is not there atm, so game on

[Greig]

Lewis looking slow :-D

[Greig]

Charles closing in

[RossTheBoss]

Not a bad start boys.

[Greig]

Mick passes Lewis, Charles close now

[RossTheBoss]

Leclerc is with Max today.

[jgonzalesm6]

Russell at fault against Perez.

[tifosi1993]

Pace is looking good.

[ferrari1.8t]

Russell at fault against Perez.

Looks like it…

[ferrari1.8t]

Crofty saying Saniz got an advantage…this guy is an idiot.

[jgonzalesm6]

Mick passes the blessed one.....ha ha.

[Greig]

Lapping Perez :-D

[ferrari1.8t]

Charles showing who the #1 is.

[Greig]

Charles having a go already :-D

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc keeping the pressure on Max....both are running away from everyone.

[Tifoso Svedese]

We have him just where we need to now.

[Greig]

Nearly Charles, come on

[Greig]

Carlos coming back into this as well, Max on radio struggling

[458 Italia]

Can't keep locking up though.

[PURE PASSION]

I'm afraid Lec will destroy his tires

[ferrari1.8t]

Did max go off track?

[Greig]

yeeeeeeeeees Charles

[jgonzalesm6]

Russell with a 5sec penalty against Perez.

[458 Italia]

Great move!!

[drax]

Go GO GO

[drax]

Cmon Carlos

[ferrari1.8t]

Lovely Charles!!!! Letssss gooooo!!

[tifosi1993]

Charles is just amazing

[Greig]

Max was fair there, knew he was done, Max big lockup

Charles had 2 track limit warnings already....

[Greig]

Max pits

[Greig]

Max onto hards, long way to go and now in traffic....

[Tifoso Svedese]

Well done Charles now keep both out for one-stops!

[Greig]

Max surely 2 stopping now?

Carlos had 2 warnings for track limits also.

[458 Italia]

Booo hamilton passes Mick.

[WS6TransAm01]

unruly behavior

That can be anything. What exactly happened?

[ferrari1.8t]

That can be anything. What exactly happened?

Hamilton probably cried and felt sad after his crash when the fans were cheering. So he went right to daddy Toto and said the FIA must do something about this and make me feel important!!! :rotfl it always has to be about meeeeee! Lol

[458 Italia]

Max never gets warned for track limits :roll

[drax]

Yes I believe RB and Max are doing two stops

[jgonzalesm6]

That can be anything. What exactly happened?

Women complaining against unruly fans......that's it really.

[jgonzalesm6]

Ferrari, this is God, don't **** this up.

[RossTheBoss]

Pit Charles now!

[Ferrari312T4]

We need to be careful with track limits

[458 Italia]

Max keeps going over the white line!

[totox]

I can't see any porpoising in our car. That's good.

[Tifoso Svedese]

No stops until Max gets into an undercut on Carlos please. We need a fast one-stopper here with fresher hards.

[WS6TransAm01]

Now that Max is in free air I think we need to put Charles. No?

[Greig]

Women complaining against unruly fans......that's it really.

Been claims they have been groping etc, not quite the same as unruly....

[tifosi1993]

As long as the tyres are good, stay out.

[WS6TransAm01]

Are Ferrari really going for a 1 stop? Seems like Max is on a 2 stop.

[DJTaurus]

Red bull is gambling with max with a hypothetical safety car to help them in the long run……

[Greig]

Max fast on the hards but surely 2 stops.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max is in the pit window to Leclerc currently.

[ferrari1.8t]

Been claims they have been groping etc, not quite the same as unruly....

Ya, that’s definitely different. Hopefully not the case.

[gump1480]

Now praying for no brain fade by team....or engine failure for Lec/Sainz

[Tifoso Svedese]

Max fast on the hards but surely 2 stops.

Yeah if he tries 55 laps on hards both our cars will breeze by at the end.

[RossTheBoss]

Are Ferrari really going for a 1 stop? Seems like Max is on a 2 stop.
Asking for a SC backfire.

[ferrari1.8t]

Asking for a SC backfire.

This.

[Greig]

Sainz going to plan E whatever that is lol

[WS6TransAm01]

Been claims they have been groping etc, not quite the same as unruly....

Shades of Cologne Germany New Years Eave 2015?

Wonder if those fans are part of the same ethnic group?

[totox]

Plan E :rotfl

[458 Italia]

Plan e must mean extend the stint.

[Tifoso Svedese]

If Carlos can stay ahead of Max for another 15 laps on this eco strategy I think we'll be very fast on hards no matter what Red Bull do. Good chance of a surprise 1-2 here!

[gump1480]

So we will come behind VES by about 2.5 sec

[Greig]

So Max will be attacking us on mediums towards the end...

[gump1480]

So we will come behind VES by about 2.5 sec

Now 3.2s

[gump1480]

Yup

[458 Italia]

I hope they've got this right....

[Tifoso Svedese]

So Max will be attacking us on mediums towards the end...

Does he even have a fresh medium set? If it's on scrubbed ones I doubt he'll be able to send it.

[RossTheBoss]

Once again the strategy is just questionable.

Why not cover Max?

[RossTheBoss]

I worry Leclerc will come out in traffic ...

[Tifoso Svedese]

Once again the strategy is just questionable.

Why not cover Max?

Track temps are lower which should mean one stop is faster over a race distance. Both cars will get clean air when they come out though.

[hakanabi]

Once again the strategy is just questionable.

Why not cover Max?

I thought the same.

[jgonzalesm6]

Once again the strategy is just questionable.

Why not cover Max?

Not really.

[PURE PASSION]

Don't know if 1 stop is a good strategy. If Lec has the pace on hards ,then ok. If he had to manage the tires.......

[ferrari1.8t]

If these mid fielders crash and cause an SC it will give the race to Verstappen

[ferrari4life]

that 5 car midfield battle.
30 years watching this sport and that was the most exciting. Amazing there was no contact.

[Greig]

Max had 2nd warning.

[Greig]

that 5 car midfield battle.
30 years watching this sport and that was the most exciting. Amazing there was no contact.

Yeah they done very well there.

[Tifoso Svedese]

If these mid fielders crash and cause an SC it will give the race to Verstappen

Not really. He's not in our SC window and he will have old tyres.

[Greig]

Perez retires, Charles in, good stop.

[458 Italia]

Perez retires.

[jgonzalesm6]

that 5 car midfield battle.
30 years watching this sport and that was the most exciting. Amazing there was no contact.

agreed.

[WS6TransAm01]

Good clean stop.

Now let’s hope the tires last.

[ferrari1.8t]

Perez retires, Charles in, good stop.

Good for the WCC…

[Tifoso Svedese]

That was a bit too early I think :Hmm

I'd gone for lap 32-33 or something.

[458 Italia]

Good ahead of hamilton.

[Greig]

Carlos in another good stop.

[tifosi1993]

12 laps fresher rubber.

[WS6TransAm01]

Another good stop.

[DJTaurus]

It’s obvious to me. Max with medium and us with soft at the final part of the race. We got this.

[ferrari1.8t]

I’m dreaming of a 1-2 today!! Fingers crossed, let’s go boys

[WS6TransAm01]

Max seems to be saving tires.

Charles faster by 1second on his our lap.

Hmmm

[458 Italia]

You can't punish Mick for that.

[458 Italia]

Slow stop hamilton :-D

[RossTheBoss]

Leclerc is faster than Max today. They need to simply do what he does strategy wise.

[Greig]

Charles smashing it.

[458 Italia]

Charles is on it!

[RossTheBoss]

Max is going to pit as soon as Leclerc passes him, then charge back through the field. That's the RB plan, I think.

[hakanabi]

We should just stay behind max and preserve these tires until he stops again

[Greig]

Easy for Charles :-D

[ferrari1.8t]

We should just stay behind max and preserve these tires until he stops again

But we have the pace, and our tire management seems better in the cool temps. Let’s hope max doesn’t do anything stupid when Charles goes in the pass.

[458 Italia]

YESSSSSS

[Tifoso Svedese]

Good job!

Now I think a two-stop is on for us. Gapping Verstappen a bit and then cover him.

[totox]

One thing it's clear and we have to give it to Ross brawn, are the new rules that improves heavily the racing

[DJTaurus]

Max is more relaxed. He has a huge points gap and not taking risks.

[ferrari1.8t]

Yessss!!!

[totox]

Now it's time to make a big buffer

[Tifoso Svedese]

Now we need to figure out how to beat Verstappen with Carlos as well. We have a 1-2 chance. Is he saving tyres I wonder?

[458 Italia]

Max sounds stressed :-D

[Greig]

Good job!

Now I think a two-stop is on for us. Gapping Verstappen a bit and then cover him.

Yeah I think we should go for 2 now, Max very unhappy with his car :-D

[drax]

Our tire management looks amazing great job on the factory

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc is on mission.

[ferrari1.8t]

Come one baby, let’s get this 1-2 and make a statement!

[Tifoso Svedese]

Yeah I think we should go for 2 now, Max very unhappy with his car :-D

Yeah, it adds the chance of a fastest lap and eliminates his chances at doing a late charge.

What a turnaround from yesterday! The green track seems to have flipped the order around a bit :-D

[Greig]

Norris penalty now.

[WS6TransAm01]

Stay calm. Stay calm. Stay calm

[drax]

Yeah I think we should go for 2 now, Max very unhappy with his car :-D

Yep, if we open a big enough gap we can two stop easily just to be safe

[Greig]

LOL Nando giving Gasly the finger

[RossTheBoss]

Leclerc looks good. But, strategy, reliability, and luck ... Not over until it's over.

[Ferrari312T4]

Is Sainz coming any closer?

[Greig]

Yep, if we open a big enough gap we can two stop easily just to be safe

Carlos is gonna pass Max so we can really cover him now.

[totox]

Now it's a good time to see that hunger Carlos was talking about this week :roll

[Greig]

Is Sainz coming any closer?

Yep

[WS6TransAm01]

Alonso is a total Chad!

Passing Yuki on the grass and waving his finger at him in the breaking zone.

Epic!

[Greig]

Max pits, Sainz final warning for track limits.....

[458 Italia]

Sainz black and white flag.

[ferrari1.8t]

Do we stop again?

[elnano14]

Sainz carefully pls ffs

[WS6TransAm01]

Would it make sense to just pit Charles now so that he and Max are on the same age tires?

[Ferrari312T4]

Yep

:clap

[RossTheBoss]

Do we stop again?
I would.

[JChan]

Sainz black and white flag.

what penalty for b&W flag?

[Greig]

Do we stop again?

Not sure, doubt Max will be quick if he is making these last to the end.

[RossTheBoss]

Max pits, Sainz final warning for track limits.....
I have not seen Sainz leave the track yet. ***.

[ferrari1.8t]

what penalty for b&W flag?

Next track limit he gets a 5 second penalty

[Tifoso Svedese]

We could wait a few laps with Charles to have track position, but then again Verstappen would have no chance on old hards.

[Greig]

what penalty for b&W flag?

5 seconds penalty if he goes off track again.

[458 Italia]

what penalty for b&W flag?

Track limits same as everyone else.

[Greig]

Max told to just match Lewis, but he don't wanna :-D

[Tifoso Svedese]

Are those dark clouds in the east a problem for this race? They looked like that before all hell broke loose in MotoGP last year.

[Greig]

Are those dark clouds in the east a problem for this race?

Probably considering we are looking good :-(

[Greig]

Seb in the kitty litter, Max fast again on the new hards but he won't make them last.

[458 Italia]

Vettel :rotfl

[drax]

Do we have new mediums ?

[RossTheBoss]

Vettel has become such a clown!

[ferrari1.8t]

If we can maintain this pace don’t think we would need to stop again? Why risk a poor stop and traffic? I’d say wait maybe rain or Saftey car…

[Ferrari312T4]

At the end it's going to be a maths quiz with all those 5 seconds

[WS6TransAm01]

Max is within the pit window now again.

[458 Italia]

Oh that was Gasly's fault.

[RossTheBoss]

Just hope for no late race SC.

[Greig]

Vettel has become such a clown!

He was taken out TBF

[drax]

Leclerc going a bit slow on the last laps no?

[RossTheBoss]

Max is within the pit window now again.
Never underestimate him.

He can come back.

[Greig]

Gasly 5 sec pen for hitting Seb

[Tifoso Svedese]

Leclerc going a bit slow on the last laps no?

Vettel spun in front of him.

[drax]

Never underestimate him.

He can come back.


Vettel spun in front of him.

Thanks nerve wracking

[ferrari1.8t]

Leclerc going a bit slow on the last laps no?

Possible hit the yellow flags of Vettel

[gump1480]

Can we do one stop ??

[WS6TransAm01]

Never underestimate him.

He can come back.

That’s what I’m worried about. I don’t think a 1 stop will work. Still 29laps to go. Plenty of time for Max to catch Charles.

[458 Italia]

Lots of traffic

[Tifoso Svedese]

I doubt Verstappen has the deg to catch us right now. Charles lap 26, Carlos lap 27, Max 36 (right?)

He went in a bit early so I think that made two stops a bit redundant if we can keep these alive.

[RossTheBoss]

Tsunoda is an absolute tool. No business being in F1.

[458 Italia]

hamilton should get a penalty.

[WS6TransAm01]

I doubt Verstappen has the deg to catch us right now. Charles lap 26, Carlos lap 27, Max 36 (right?)

He went in a bit early so I think that made two stops a bit redundant if we can keep these alive.

Yes. But do RBR have more deg or were they just nursing tires?

[Tifoso Svedese]

Yes. But do RBR have more deg or were they just nursing tires?

More deg today by the looks of things. Ideally for Max you'd pit at lap 43 or thereabouts to even out the deg on the two hard stints. That he went in way too early was a result of Carlos putting all that pressure on him.

[Greig]

I doubt Verstappen has the deg to catch us right now. Charles lap 26, Carlos lap 27, Max 36 (right?)

He went in a bit early so I think that made two stops a bit redundant if we can keep these alive.

Yeah I think they know he went in too early hence they wanted him to just match Lewis, but then Max complained so they let him push and ruin the tyres....

[ferrari1.8t]

Looks like we are sticking to the 1 stop

[jgonzalesm6]

Sainz has a 5sec penalty.

[458 Italia]

hamilton crying :rotfl

[458 Italia]

Sainz has a 5sec penalty.

Oh balls....

[ferrari1.8t]

Cry baby doing what he does best, “I didn’t do it, but everyone else is”. Lol

[Tifoso Svedese]

Carlos FFS!

Will be hard to stay ahead of that delta then.

[Greig]

Sainz has a 5sec penalty.

Don't think so.

[ferrari1.8t]

Sainz has a 5sec penalty.

Ugh. There goes our 1-2

[totox]

Sainz has a 5sec penalty.

There it goes our 1-2

[Greig]

Sainz only got the black and white flag, no penalty?

[Tifoso Svedese]

Maybe Jgonzales is spending time in a different dimension since they turned the hadron collider on :-D

(joking)

[458 Italia]

They haven't said anything about Sainz getting a penalty.

[ferrari4life]

dont think he has the penalty yet

[Greig]

Ocon being an idiot

[Greig]

Charles pits....

[458 Italia]

Why is Ocon racing him!!

[WS6TransAm01]

Charles in the pits.

[Greig]

Hards again, decent stop, let's go Charles.

[458 Italia]

Slow stop. Or seemed it.

[ferrari1.8t]

Why???

[Greig]

Sainz coming in

[WS6TransAm01]

4 seconds to make up now.

[totox]

It's the safest option. Max will destroy his tires

[Greig]

4 seconds to make up now.

Easy, Max has terrible deg and will be slow at the end, probably he is racing Lewis now.

[tifosi1993]

Finally they did the sensible thing today. Max is our rival, just cover him.

[RossTheBoss]

Come on Charles...

[WS6TransAm01]

Why didn’t Carlos serve his penalty?

Just add it to his time at the end?

[458 Italia]

Push push push!!!

[Greig]

Already down to 1.5 :-D

[Tifoso Svedese]

Hopefully Verstappen stays sane when Charles gets DRS. This is a bit like Shanghai in the video games :-D

[458 Italia]

Why didn’t Carlos serve his penalty?

Just add it to his time at the end?

He didn't have one

[WS6TransAm01]

Easy, Max has terrible deg and will be slow at the end, probably he is racing Lewis now.

He did it twice before. He’s already only 1.6s behind.

[Greig]

Why didn’t Carlos serve his penalty?

Just add it to his time at the end?

He has no penalty.

[ferrari1.8t]

We need this 1-2 and fastest lap. Especially with Perez out, this will be a huge weekend for us and a moral boost for Charles!

[Greig]

Gasly pitted and never served his penalty ooops prob get a drive thru now.

[458 Italia]

Did we not have mediums left?

[Greig]

Easy for Charles, now come on Sainz.

[458 Italia]

Gasly pitted and never served his penalty ooops prob get a drive thru now.

Should be a stop and go.

[drax]

What a pass this kid is amazing

[458 Italia]

Nice!!

[Greig]

Max moaning now :-D Come on Charles let's get him....

[totox]

Good. Ok sainz now it's time you show us you can be a title contender and pass max

[Tifoso Svedese]

Did we not have mediums left?

Everyone struggle on hards here. They're the 3/5 tyres for softness so equal to softs on Silverstone. Easy to get up to temperature.

[ferrari1.8t]

What a pass this kid is amazing

That’s our boy! The true #1! Let’s goooooo!

[totox]

Max moaning about our traction :rotfl

[da_one]

I hope Lewis finish in front of Max.

[drax]

Now Carlos make it count and let’s just finish this race

[WS6TransAm01]

He has no penalty.

Earlier posts were saying he did.

[RossTheBoss]

Masterful driving from Leclerc today. Really. He drives like Alonso in his prime.

[Greig]

Earlier posts were saying he did.

He is on his final warning.

[jgonzalesm6]

Sorry guys, no 5secc on Sainz....just a warning.

[Greig]

FL Sainz, he is on Max now...

[jgonzalesm6]

Earlier posts were saying he did.

My bad...it was a warning.

[WS6TransAm01]

He is on his final warning.

10-4

Earlier posts were misleading.

[Greig]

Oh no, Carlos engine gone

[JChan]

Go bang MV!

[drax]

Crap