2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Race Thread

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[nani_s23]

On the Checo Perez RB18 the PU (except battery and control unit) has been replaced with one already used in the season. No penalty. The same goes for Stroll's Aston.

[stefa]

How it would be so nice to spoil this huge party with 1-2

[elnano14]

Max has one set of new softs. That could come handy at the end of the race

[MSC Fan]

I'm gonna watch the race with this music in the background : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

That way even when we inevitably screw up the whole thing, I won't be raging as much.

[drax]

Mercs starting on mediums

[stefa]

MV on new soft, CL and CS on used soft

[SB92]

Why are both Ferraris starting on used softs.

[458 Italia]

Sky care more about potential damage to hamilton than they do Carlos.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Hamilton doing his best to lose his front wing at the start.

[elnano14]

Why are both Ferraris starting on used softs.

Only Max had new softs after qualifying

[SB92]

Decent enough start. Hopefully our tyres hold up well.

[drax]

This going to be down to tires again

[ferrari1.8t]

Sky care more about potential damage to hamilton than they do Carlos.

As expected.

[stefa]

CS is way too slow

[ferrari1.8t]

Hamilton hanging on to Saniz with medium tires….

[elnano14]

Leclerc fast. Sainz slow

[stefa]

LH in DRS of CS

[elnano14]

Just take the double podium and go home. This track is boring, we won't pass Max and Sainz is slow

[drax]

Just do p2 and p3

[drax]

Again, again

[Tifoso Svedese]

Just fire the spaghetti gang already.

[patrese86]

Lmao

[458 Italia]

Terrible stop for Sainz.

[SB92]

Every italian in this team needs sacking.

[458 Italia]

What a gift for hamilton.

[Tifoso Svedese]

How the hell is Binotto allowed to stay on????

[stefa]

Disaster pit for CS

[elnano14]

Clown already

[458 Italia]

Bunch of clowns.

[drax]

Charles tires are done

[MSC Fan]

I'm gonna watch the race with this music in the background : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

That way even when we inevitably screw up the whole thing, I won't be raging as much.

Yep, this is really doing wonders.

[WS6TransAm01]

Max pulling away now. Sadly RBR ignored the cost cap and developed the car.

And Ferrari screws up again on race day. Let’s change Carlos’ tires but not bring out the tire.

[stefa]

They forgot rear left tyre!?!?!?!? CLOWNS!!!!!

[458 Italia]

Every sodding race they manage to mess something up!

[Tifoso Svedese]

So another boring Firstappen sh-tshow. Yippie.

[patrese86]

We won't even get podium for Charles. I'm done
.

[stefa]

CL is almost 1 sec slower than MV

[Hornet]

Man, we just can't go a race without any issues

[stefa]

Every sodding race they manage to mess something up!

They master it to the perfection!

[Aziz]

Clown already

Hahahaha, I'm starting to bet myself how and how will be the clown. i won this week :lol

[nani_s23]

Now can someone tell me… are ferrari ready to win titles? Or atleast contest??

This is bizzare, race by race. Something or the order.

Inefficient people around doesn’t work.

[WS6TransAm01]

They handed Hamilton another podium. People seem to forget that the only reason he was ever in a podium was because others screw up.

[stefa]

Man, we just can't go a race without any issues

Because this is a gang of amateur clowns!

[drax]

Good stop

[hakanabi]

This current team will never win a championship, bunch of amateurs really.

[nhiepka]

Fire Binoto, why Ferrari keep this guy.

[MSC Fan]

Now can someone tell me… are ferrari ready to win titles? Or atleast contest??

This is bizzare, race by race. Something or the order.

Inefficient people around doesn’t work.

Championship?! Ferrari as it is can barely contest for race wins.

[458 Italia]

I really don't know why I bother watching anymore. :roll

[Tifoso Svedese]

I guess leaving the tyre in the garage is also for the good of the sport. Need more teams on the podium.

[jgonzalesm6]

I took a handful of aspirin for that Sainz pitstop mess up.

[Nick Singer]

Absolute CLOWNS!

[killer]

It’s a miracle that garage doesn’t catch fire weekly.

[WS6TransAm01]

Let’s see the stupid way Binotto tries to defend his poor management.

[drax]

How are our lap times in mediums ?

[gump1480]

How are our lap times in mediums ?

Slower than bulls

[458 Italia]

It’s a miracle that garage doesn’t catch fire weekly.

https://c.tenor.com/QWAWFyv5TwgAAAAC/homer-simpson-corn-flakes.gif

[jgonzalesm6]

Incident Perez/Sainz will be investigated after the race - pit equipment in the way.

[stefa]

CL is 0.4 slower than MV

[WS6TransAm01]

How are our lap times in mediums ?

Gap between Max and Charles is growing.

[elnano14]

Ready for a double pedium convert into a P4 and P6

[458 Italia]

Such a boring season that started out so well.

[Tifoso Svedese]

I guess the only thing that would make me tune in again would be Hamilton staying out then taking out Firstappen when the DRS move came trying to pull something big.

[jgonzalesm6]

What happened in Carlos Sainz pitstop?
Mattia Binotto: A mess. A mess happened.

understatement of the year!!!!

[gump1480]

Ready for a double pedium convert into a P4 and P6

More like P2 and P6 now...let's see what we do finally

[killer]

Croft isn’t even trying to hide the Merc love anymore.

[458 Italia]

Croft isn’t even trying to hide the Merc love anymore.

He's getting really excited!

[stefa]

Both CL and CS are way slower than Red Bull

[458 Italia]

All of sky are begging for a hamilton win :roll

[drax]

Our championship is for p2 with the mercs, unless we have a miracle upgrade happens on the next race we are fighting for p2 against them

[MSC Fan]

All of sky are begging for a hamilton win :roll

Honestly better than watching Verstappen win once again. It's no better than 2017 or 2018.

[Aziz]

Both CL and CS are way slower than Red Bull

We did it again, every year, we are pretty constant

[stefa]

We did it again, every year, we are pretty constant

Yes! If season end would be at Hungaroring, we might win some championship

[killer]

Let’s see… ways to go still, anything can happen—hopefully not to us again.

[WS6TransAm01]

If Hamilton one-stops he might jump Charles to P2.

The Ferrari pace is nowhere. I’m glad they stuck to the cost cap, you know, for the good of the sport.

[SB92]

I doubt CL can hold on for a podium, our tyres arent falling off but our race pace isnt great either.

[458 Italia]

3rd fastest team.

[drax]

If Hamilton one-stops he might jump Charles to P2.

The Ferrari pace is nowhere. I’m glad they stuck to the cost cap, you know, for the good of the sport.

I am pretty sure both Mercs are one stopping

[nani_s23]

Our championship is for p2 with the mercs, unless we have a miracle upgrade happens on the next race we are fighting for p2 against them

It’s evident TD39 did hurt ferrari more than any other team.

Our race pace is nowhere to RB & Mercs.

It’s as usual our 2nd half is getting worse.

[da_one]

If Hamilton one-stops he might jump Charles to P2.

The Ferrari pace is nowhere. I’m glad they stuck to the cost cap, you know, for the good of the sport.

I don't think it's just the cost cap. I think Ferrari got caught out with the TD as well.

[Rishu]

Croft isn’t even trying to hide the Merc love anymore.

Was begging for SC when Mercedes were delaying their stops, not asking for it now. How about a SC now? that will be fun

[SB92]

If Hamilton one-stops he might jump Charles to P2.

The Ferrari pace is nowhere. I’m glad they stuck to the cost cap, you know, for the good of the sport.

If Ferrari were to try to push the cost cap then they would get caught. The team hasnt even brought any upgrades in a long time. We are clearly the 3rd fastest race car. We should have started atleast one of the cars on mediums.

[458 Italia]

Can't do any plans now :rotfl

[stefa]

With current pace, I don't think CL will be on podium.

[nani_s23]

Sorry to say, Mattia is a sitting duck.

First 4-6 races didn’t bring any upgrades & saying we are working on car set-up track by track doesn’t look good.

You need to consistently upgrade your machine. That’s what Mercs & RB had done. While at Ferrari we are moaning on cost cap.

[SB92]

I don't think it's just the cost cap. I think Ferrari got caught out with the TD as well.

This issue with the tyres was clear from the Hungaroring onwards. The qualifying pace is still strong but the race pace is nowhere and the spaghetti munchers cant go fir a weekend without screwing up.

[458 Italia]

Hate drs.

[killer]

Was begging for SC when Mercedes were delaying their stops, not asking for it now. How about a SC now? that will be fun

Preferably caused by a Merc. Double fun.

[drax]

Are they thinking Carlos can go until the end ?

[gump1480]

This issue with the tyres was clear from the Hungaroring onwards. The qualifying pace is still strong but the race pace is nowhere and the spaghetti munchers cant go fir a weekend without screwing up.

Well then exactly one race after they introduced the new floor.

[Greig]

Did Red Bull just ask Max what tyres he wants.....strange that.

[stefa]

At the beginning of the season we ware all yes, we go for CWC and WDC, laughing at Mercedes, and now slap on the face! Not only we don't even have a chance a shoot at the championship, we are going to be 3rd at the end!!!
GREAT JOB!!!

[458 Italia]

"no one's talked about Ferrari" yeah coz we're crap.

[WS6TransAm01]

I don't think it's just the cost cap. I think Ferrari got caught out with the TD as well.

If you ignore the cap like RBR clearly did with constant upgrades and even a new chassis you can work around the TD.


If Ferrari were to try to push the cost cap then they would get caught. The team hasnt even brought any upgrades in a long time. We are clearly the 3rd fastest race car. We should have started atleast one of the cars on mediums.

RBR haven’t been caught. Pretty sure Merc is ignoring the stupidity of the cost cap as well.

[SB92]

If you ignore the cap like RBR clearly did with constant upgrades and even a new chassis you can work around the TD.



RBR haven’t been caught. Pretty sure Merc is ignoring the stupidity of the cost cap as well.

I thought RBR didnt bring a new chassis.
That said, Ferrari have definitely brought way fewer upgrades than RB or Merc.

[drax]

For the love of god, pit Sainz for Hards and try them out

[458 Italia]

They really haven't got a clue on the pit wall have they?

[drax]

Safety Car pit now, pit now

[SB92]

For the love of god, pit Sainz for Hards and try them out

Not much point pitting for hards at the end of the 2nd stint. Both cars have a spare set of fresh softs, if im not mistaken?

[hakanabi]

For the love of god, pit Sainz for Hards and try them out

That pitwall is nor smart enough for that.

[nani_s23]

Xavier telling Charles we are aiming for P4.

Very good recovery by Ferrari :clap

[patrese86]

Surely get Charles in?

Never mind, not a safety car after all

[stefa]

Xavier telling Charles we are aiming for P4.

Very good recovery by Ferrari :clap

It's improvement from last time!

[458 Italia]

Dream team! :clap

[drax]

Ffs now we get the safety car

[Greig]

This is all very suspicious.....

[458 Italia]

This isn't weird at all...

[TonyRizza]

Definitely cheating

[WS6TransAm01]

This isn't weird at all...

Yeah. Red Bull jr team with some shenanigans to help the parent team?

[Greig]

VSC has really helped Red Bull there.....their super duper strategy team had got Max from P1 to P3.....

[drax]

Yes a lot of problems, but we cannot get a break luck wise

[nani_s23]

This is how champions team reach & play strategy.
Great from Mercs

[gump1480]

Yes a lot of problems, but we cannot get a break luck wise

Didn't look like luck....very shady there by Alfa Tauri

[SB92]

Yes a lot of problems, but we cannot get a break luck wise

Its just the team. There was zero reason to not try out different tyre compounds for the two cars. And Sainz's pitstop got horribly botched as well.

[jgonzalesm6]

Please note.....Mercedes pitted 2 cars (double stacked) faster than Ferrari pitted Sainz.

[Whatsyourangle]

Can't wait for Binotto to get fired. Really, the guy is an awful team boss.

[SB92]

Didn't look like luck....very shady there by Alfa Tauri

I doubt it, since the championship is all but wrapped up. We shouldnt insinuate about other team's cheating when Ferrari cant even get a basic pitstop right.

[drax]

Charles is loosing a ton of time

[elnano14]

Sainz gonna be eaten alive by Lando and Nando. ****ing disaster

[SB92]

Can't wait for Binotto to get fired. Really, the guy is an awful team boss.

He should have been fired in 2020. He is the worst TP we have had in decades. Atleast with Domenicali and Arrivabene, we fought for multiple championships.

[WS6TransAm01]

Ferrari can’t even keep up with Merc.

Complete failure by Binotto to manage the team.

[stefa]

CL is so slow

[nani_s23]

Perez will pass Leclerc.
Alonso will pass Sainz.

Best outcome is P5 & P7. :clap

[da_one]

The red cars have no love for the hard tires I'm afraid

[458 Italia]

What's the excuse going to be for today's failures? Wrong type of tarmac?

[faloupas]

Another amazing weekend by Ferrari clowns...

[Timpolidori]

This season just goes to show that you can’t hide a bad team with a good car

[458 Italia]

The red cars have no love for the hard tires I'm afraid

Don't have much love for any tyre it seems.

[da_one]

At this rate, our 2nd place in the constructor's championship will be in peril. :-!

[drax]

Carlos is going to get a penalty

[458 Italia]

Oh Sainz...

[458 Italia]

Why no SC?

[drax]

Safety Car … pit, pt

[da_one]

Hamilton will win this race if there is another sc

[alfaromeo]

This is to much… Ferrari is now 3 rd, the car is just slow .. never will be f1 champion with this people ..

[458 Italia]

This is terrible. hamilton will win :doh

[WS6TransAm01]

I can’t even keep up with what is happening anymore lol

This is a fustercluck.

[Whatsyourangle]

He should have been fired in 2020. He is the worst TP we have had in decades. Atleast with Domenicali and Arrivabene, we fought for multiple championships.

Absoluetly right.

[da_one]

Bottas the ever reliable Hamilton wingman :clap

[458 Italia]

For crying out loud! Can't they do anything right!?

[JPZ]

Which tyres did Leclerc get?

[elnano14]

Jesus chirst this team

[da_one]

lol comedy of errors for the clowns in the pits

[Greig]

Team done nothing wrong there with Sainz.

[Arcana]

Sainz overtook under yellow flags.

[Nick Singer]

:haha::haha:

Utter clowns. Joke team.

[stefa]

Sainz overtook under yellow flags.

To be fair, he was in front of Ocon before yellow flag

[458 Italia]

We're the joke team :clap

[drax]

Team done nothing wrong there with Sainz.

I agree nothing to see, Alonso was sleeping

[Aziz]

:haha::haha:

Utter clowns. Joke team.

The clowns made the car slower than Merc

[Tifoso Svedese]

Zandvoort has too narrow and short pits for purpose, that's why stuff like what unfolded happens there.

[da_one]

at this rate, anyone but Hamilton pls :pray

[458 Italia]

Take that hamilton :rotfl

[drax]

Pass those two mercs

[jgonzalesm6]

Abu Dhabi 2021 between Lewis and Max.

[Greig]

What a mistake by Lewis haha

[da_one]

Abu Dhabi 2.0

[jgonzalesm6]

Abu Dhabi 2.0

NOOO Mickey no!!!!!....this is not right!!!

[458 Italia]

Unlucky croft :-D

[Tifoso Svedese]

Can't believe Hamilton decided to go flat out so early when he knows he's got the slowest car around in a straight line.

[drax]

Oh dear lord I don’t think we have pace for the mercedes

[da_one]

Lewis will lose P2 if brown nose Russell is allowed to race him

[stefa]

We cannot challenge Mercedes!?!!

[458 Italia]

hamilton not happy poor whamilton :rotfl

[da_one]

Welcome to Ferrari's world, Lewis. The land of f-ups:clap

[458 Italia]

He's blaming everyone else what a little baby :rotfl

[Tifoso Svedese]

Lewis would go bald before the summer break if he drove for Ferrari :lol

[Greig]

So Red Bull poor strategy saved by VSC/SC, Merc mess up strategy in the VSC/SC....but yeah only Ferrari make errors....

[Greig]

Go Charles, crowd loving it lol

[da_one]

LOl Button wanted both Mercs to be on mediums :lol

[458 Italia]

Yes Charles! See ya hamilton :rotfl

[drax]

So Red Bull poor strategy saved by VSC/SC, Merc mess up strategy in the VSC/SC....but yeah only Ferrari make errors....

That is not the point, our race pace has gone nowhere we are the 3rd fastest team

[458 Italia]

Go on Carlos your turn! :-D

[WS6TransAm01]

Carlos needs to pass the affirmative action champion as well for good measure but he’s too busy being slow and defending from Sergio.

[Greig]

That is not the point, our race pace has gone nowhere we are the 3rd fastest team

Point is errors on the pitwall do not just come from Ferrari...2nd or 3rd, 3rd would be better for extra development time....

[Tifoso Svedese]

That is not the point, our race pace has gone nowhere we are the 3rd fastest team

Not to mention Greig conveniently ignoring the spaghetti boys showing up with three tyres for Carlos.

[stefa]

CS is slower than LH, on a faster tire!

[WS6TransAm01]

Not to mention Greig conveniently ignoring the spaghetti boys showing up with three tyres for Carlos.

Amen

[drax]

And yes Red Bull and Mercedes made mistakes, but they end up ahead of us

[Tifoso Svedese]

Corrupt maFIA clowns as usual.

[Greig]

Not to mention Greig conveniently ignoring the spaghetti boys showing up with three tyres for Carlos.

They done that for Irvine in 99 as well....guess you wanted Todt booted for it?

I was talking about strategy, please try and grasp it.

[Greig]

5 sec penalty for Carlos

[458 Italia]

There's the penalty then... Finishing outside the top 10

[WS6TransAm01]

Carlos is gonna out of the points with his penalty lol.

[stefa]

Our race pace is nowhere!

[Aziz]

So we start P2 and P3 ana we will finish P3 ana P10

[JacKy]

I dont understand where our pace has gone.

Cant even keep up with Russell…

[nani_s23]

Our race pace is nowhere!

Aston Martin - Stroll is faster than Ferrari - Sainz.
Our tyre deg is so high than any others

[patrese86]

I dont understand where our pace has gone.

Cant even keep up with Russell…

We have the worst degredation on the grid. It's not even that hot today either and we are over heating the tyres

[Aziz]

I dont understand where our pace has gone.

Cant even keep up with Russell…

We are the only one affected with the TD, and Binitto was silent as always

[drax]

Again, great job from our drivers

[Aziz]

Aston Martin - Stroll is faster than Ferrari - Sainz.
Our tyre deg is so high than any others

Monza will be fun

[totox]

Somewhere between the last 3 races we *** up our development. It could be when we introduced the last floor that has to compliant with the TD039

[458 Italia]

Another poor showing from us, seeing hamilton lose his mind is always fun though! :lol

[stefa]

This team will NOT win any championship anytime soon

[Tifoso Svedese]

Hopefully a bad showing at Monza will be enough to have Mattia put in the Bin(otto) mid-season.

[drax]

Sainz ends up p8

[Tifoso Svedese]

Ridiculous penalty. Zandvoort the track was the problem there, not Sainz. Had that been Red Bull or Mercedes I can guarantee no penalty.

[SB92]

This team will NOT win any championship anytime soon

Do you expect us to even win a race anytime soon? We have even stopped bringing upgrades "for the good of the sport".

[stefa]

Do you expect us to even win a race anytime soon? We have even stopped bringing upgrades "for the good of the sport".

Honestly, I don't! Next race is going to be slaughterhouse!

[elnano14]

Ridiculous penalty. Zandvoort the track was the problem there, not Sainz. Had that been Red Bull or Mercedes I can guarantee no penalty.

His penalty is justified though.

[Greig]

His penalty is justified though.

No it was not, the McLaren team being in the way was the problem, not the release.

[WS6TransAm01]

This team will NOT win any championship anytime soon

Never with Binotto as the team principle.


Hopefully a bad showing at Monza will be enough to have Mattia put in the Bin(otto) mid-season.

Too late. This was the best chance Ferrari would have had to win the championship. Next year Merc will be a head and Ferrari will be picking up the scraps that RBR and Merc leave behind. Binotto should have been fired by Spain.

[Greig]

Charles back to P2 in WDC.

[patrese86]

Actually we should of been primed to do well in Monza as we have good traction out of slow corners which 1 and 2 are and 3-4 but to a lesser degree. But we've detuned the engine so much and just constantly have worse tyre wear than our rivals it won't matter.

[Aziz]

Honestly, I don't! Next race is going to be slaughterhouse!

Ok,now time to lose my nerves watching Eurobasket Bosnia vs Slovenia, but Ferrari keeps taking more ana more out of me

[da_one]

That's it then, championship over for Ferrari. For the nth time, we go backwards as the season progresses.

Might as well expect the Mercs to overtake us as well, it would be less painful. Unless you are already numb. This team will not win anything if they continue to pretend nothing is wrong.

[WS6TransAm01]

Charles back to P2 in WDC.

109 point behind. Nothing to celebrate. It’s shameful and pathetic.

[patrese86]

No it was not, the McLaren team being in the way was the problem, not the release.

He got the green light for the release.

[Greig]

109 point behind. Nothing to celebrate. It’s shameful and pathetic.

Who celebrated it?

Good post.

[Greig]

He got the green light for the release.

Yeah he was well clear but had to avoid McLaren mechanics due to the pitlane being too tight.

[WS6TransAm01]

Who celebrated it?

Good post.

It isn’t even worth mentioning.

[Greig]

It isn’t even worth mentioning.

Don't quote it then.

[Golfsmith]

LEC get out of this team.

[WS6TransAm01]

Don't quote it then.

Don’t post it the. :lol

[elnano14]

The way we are eating the tyres right now it will be a **** show at Singapore and Suzuka

[Greig]

Don’t post it the. :lol

I will post Ferrari info if I want, if it upsets you then all the better.

[Golfsmith]

I dont understand where our pace has gone.
TD

[WS6TransAm01]

The way we are eating the tyres right now it will be a **** show at Singapore and Suzuka

Max may very well win the remaining 7 races.

[SB92]

Another terrible race, masked somewhat by CL doing his best and LH and Merc messing up. But honestly for how much longer will Elkann keep sleeping? Binotto needs to be kicked out right away. I really miss Marchionne at times like these.

[WS6TransAm01]

I will post Ferrari info if I want, if it upsets you then all the better.

And I will keep quoting your silliness. If it annoys you then all the better. :lol

[nani_s23]

Ferrari being ferrari in strategy & pits.
Nothing works for them.

[SB92]

TD

No, our main issue is tyre wear, which was evident before the TD as well. Our quali pace is still fairly competent.

[patrese86]

The way we are eating the tyres right now it will be a **** show at Singapore and Suzuka

I wanna say it's the TD but I'm not sure. I feel like we was having tyre deg issues before this. Didn't we have issues at Silverstone?

Maybe the TD has had a knock on effect so it's even more noticeable but I think we were had issues anyway. Imola I feel like it too

[jgonzalesm6]

Max may very well win the remaining 7 races.

IF Max wins the races up to Singapore.....Max wins the WDC title.

[nani_s23]

At the start of the Season we were fastest car.

Now we are 3rd fastest car. I don’t know why Mattia took 2years for developing such car if it’s not competitive.

[Greig]

And I will keep quoting your silliness. If it annoys you then all the better. :lol

Won't annoy me I prefer the forum when your not around :-)

[Golfsmith]

Elkann
His only for the show.

[Hornet]

Our qualifying pace was so close to Max I thought we'd have a chance today, but our race pace just isn't there.

Hopefully we can bring something special in Monza, but I guess the remaining of the season is about Ferrari vs Merc for the second spot.

[Greig]

Our qualifying pace was so close to Max I thought we'd have a chance today, but our race pace just isn't there.

Hopefully we can bring something special in Monza, but I guess the remaining of the season is about Ferrari vs Merc for the second spot.

Our tyre deg is terrible so would ideally find a fix for that but I doubt much will change this season now.

[WS6TransAm01]

Won't annoy me I prefer the forum when your not around :-)

You banning me only provides prove that you can’t debate your point.

”When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

[hakanabi]

Our qualifying pace was so close to Max I thought we'd have a chance today, but our race pace just isn't there.

Hopefully we can bring something special in Monza, but I guess the remaining of the season is about Ferrari vs Merc for the second spot.

Even they bring something special, I have no doubt team will hrt something wrong be it pit stop or strategy call, this team as is always messes something comes race day.

[Greig]

You banning me only provides prove that you can’t debate your point.

”When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

Says a lot about you that you are spoiling for a fight on the internet because I said Charles is back to P2 in the WDC.

Are you really so empty?

[JPZ]

Hamilton had quite the meltdown on the radio.

Russell will probably finish ahead of him this year.

For Ferrari, battle is now to hold 2nd place in both championships.

[Greig]

Lewis has spat the dummy out on the radio haha.

[jgonzalesm6]

Hamilton had quite the meltdown on the radio.

Russell will probably finish ahead of him this year.

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yep, that's the difference between Lewis and Russell. Lewis trusts his crew too much. Russell made the call to softs after the VSC and SC chaos.

[WS6TransAm01]

Says a lot about you that you are spoiling for a fight on the internet because I said Charles is back to P2 in the WDC.

Are you really so empty?

lol

I pointed out the futility of your post. You’re the one continuing to fight. Then you drop threats. What does that say about you?

[Greig]

lol

I pointed out the futility of your post. You’re the one continuing to fight. Then you drop threats. What does that say about you?

No threats.

Charles P2 WDC

[tifosi1993]

Lewis has spat the dummy out on the radio haha.

Well, he's not the only and won't be the only one either. But his team atmosphere is healthy, where he's allowed to throw hissyfits and whatnot.

But if it was Charles and if he merely dared to criticize any of Ferrari's decision, Binotto would've come out on the radio and would've thrown toys out of parm like Hamilton.

[Greig]

Sky now wanting VSC rules changed the 1st time it goes against Lewis haha.

[FerrariF60]

IF Max wins the races up to Singapore.....Max wins the WDC title.

Let’s be honest, Max is already the champion
Ferrari have already dropped the ball and Charles would have been his only competitor this year...but all of a sudden since the TD we have lost major pace, our tire deg seems really poor and on top of that we probably defined the engine as well so we can actually finish races without PU blowouts

We have A LOT OF WORK TO DO FOR NEXT YEAR....if we wanna challenge for wins and the championship

[WS6TransAm01]

No threats.

Charles P2 WDC

If you’re not first, you’re last.

[jgonzalesm6]

No threats.

Charles P2 WDC

You realize Leclerc is tied with Perez......201 pts.....yes??

[Greig]

You realize Leclerc is tied with Perez......201 pts.....yes??

You realise he is P2 in the WDC....yes??

[jgonzalesm6]

Let’s be honest, Max is already the champion

Technically and officially speaking.:-D




Ferrari have already dropped the ball and Charles would have been his only competitor this year...but all of a sudden since the TD we have lost major pace, our tire deg seems really poor and on top of that we probably defined the engine as well so we can actually finish races without PU blowouts

We have A LOT OF WORK TO DO FOR NEXT YEAR....if we wanna challenge for wins and the championship

agreed.

[jgonzalesm6]

You realise he is P2 in the WDC....yes??

yes.....but for how long?? Hopefully he stays P2 given the number of races left in the season...............:pray

[nani_s23]

yes.....but for how long?? Hopefully he stays P2 given the number of races left in the season...............:pray

Next set of tracks are powered tracks. Give our tyre deg & lack of development + our Pit strategy combined with slow pit stops. It’s difficult for Charles to keep that 2nd in WDC.

[tifosi1993]

What an impeccable display of failed leadership we have been witnessing this year.

Started this year with the fastest car and a driver who's more than capable of lifting the title. But rather than doubling down and bolting upgrades on the car, we had to wait for the Spanish GP, the 5th race on the calendar, to witness some meaningful upgrades on the car. While Red Bull kept on upgrading their car and made it fully suited to Max.

Binotto on the other hand kept on complaining about budget cap, how they need to help Sainz with the F1-75, ignoring all the mistakes from the pit wall and defending their incompetence with his own incompetence as a leader, throwing his fingers at Charles infornt of the public cause Charles dared to question their stupid strategy that costed him an easy win Silverstone, kept on complaining about budget car while the competitors kept on developing their cars. Was incapable of playing any politics whatsoever. Accepted FIA's interference in the championship and what not.

And still the upgrades are missing. The F1-75 is a great car but it simply hasn't been upgraded as much as it's direct competitors. The RB18 and the Merc are the two most heavily upgraded cars while the F1-75 is one of the least upgraded car on the grid. Pathetic.

[jgonzalesm6]

Next set of tracks are powered tracks. Give our tyre deg & lack of development + our Pit strategy combined with slow pit stops. It’s difficult for Charles to keep that 2nd in WDC.

That's my thinking as well.

[jgonzalesm6]

Binotto: "Today we are not satisfied. We weren't fast. We made a mess in Carlos' pit. With Charles we were unlucky in strategy. We think Carlos lost pace in the incident with Lewis. We will do our best in Monza."