The constant and boring Massa replaced by.....thread

[MaheepFerrari]

Sergio Perez or Kubica

[Sianellen]

Personally I think that ............... will be a more than adequate replacement for Massa. As we know Massa has always either failed to be as good as his team mate or has been better than him so we need someone who is exactly the same as him but not as good as him so as not to upset the delicate constitution of some of his fans.

IMO, ................. seems ideal as a replacement for Massa for the following reasons:

1. He isn't Massa (very important)
2. He has never driven a Ferrari before so no-one has had a chance to decide he's not worthy of one yet.
3. Despite scoring less points than Massa last season it is obvious that this will change once he replaces Massa because it will.
4. He hasn't had an accident that can be used to pre-determine a) that he's no good anymore and b) that this is why he's no good anymore.
5. He hasn't spun 5 times at Silverstone - which as we all know is the primary determining factor as to whether or not a driver is better than Massa.

You forgot to mention Massa's fear of slinky springs and his visions of them.

[Meiga]

Has ........... has submitted his/her CV on the appropriate thread of this forum?

[F2008]

I couldn't tell. Can't even spot an improvement for Ferrari on short term.

I would say Raikkonen if I really have to.

[BaronVonAwesome]

*edit* nevermind

[Fiondella]

Even the parody isn't funny anymore.

[Tifosi]

There is much to joke about the various "Massa rumours", but aren't they an indication that something is not quite right in that department ?

then they havent been right since 2006

[racingbradley]

There is much to joke about the various "Massa rumours", but aren't they an indication that something is not quite right in that department ?

Does that apply to the Stefano rumours as well?
Maybe Ferrari should sack the whole team. After all we have not won the WDC since 2007!!!!!!!!
We could rebadge Toro Rosso as Ferrari and have an Enzo moment.

If Felipe or Rob should happen to read this thread I reckon they will be amused.

[racingbradley]

I think Kubica was the perfect replacement to Massa, until his accident. Webber would be a provisional option until Kubica recovers completely.
And YES, Massa is driving in Ferrari now in a mediocre way. If you dont like the truth is your problem.

Ok Massa was faster than Nando last Sunday so does that mean Nando drove in a more mediocre way???????

[NanoTheQuickest]

If the car was better none of this would be happening as Felipe would be producing the goods and I think we are starting to see glimpses of it now because the car is slowly getting better. But taking this point into consideration it is true that any of these guys would manage to get good results if they had a good car and it would be expected from them. But a better driver is someone you see producing the goods in a mediocre car like Robert or Fernando.

My thing is, put the majority of these guys in that car and Fernando will be quicker than them 80% of the time.

[NanoTheQuickest]

Fernando and Robert would be hell of a combo though! (if Robert comes back as good as he was)

[NanoTheQuickest]

If the car was better none of this would be happening as Felipe would be producing the goods and I think we are starting to see glimpses of it now because the car is slowly getting better. But taking this point into consideration it is true that any of these guys would manage to get good results if they had a good car and it would be expected from them. But a better driver is someone you see producing the goods in a mediocre car like Robert or Fernando.

My thing is, put the majority of these guys in that car and Fernando will be quicker than them 80% of the time.

[F2007]

MS fired, Kimi fired, Aldo, Dyer, Todt, Byrne, RossB etc. and who is not. Oh, its always Massa. That is funny. Both Ferrari drivers have supernatural powers.

[Ree]

I've been told by a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend who knows a friend of a friend of friend that works at Maranello that it isn't just a coincidence that Damon Hill has recently quit the BRDC

[Rob]

My good reliable friend and source emailled me that Ferrari were so impressed with the SC car driver in Cananda, that he has been limked to Felipes race seat.

[puto.havana]

If the car was better none of this would be happening as Felipe would be producing the goods and I think we are starting to see glimpses of it now because the car is slowly getting better. But taking this point into consideration it is true that any of these guys would manage to get good results if they had a good car and it would be expected from them. But a better driver is someone you see producing the goods in a mediocre car like Robert or Fernando.

My thing is, put the majority of these guys in that car and Fernando will be quicker than them 80% of the time.

I think that is it, give the boys the tools and they will do the rest. The truth is the car is not the best and that means they cant. Simples.

[Corey]

My good reliable friend and source emailled me that Ferrari were so impressed with the SC car driver in Cananda, that he has been limked to Felipes race seat.

Really?? I thought it was the chauffeur that drove Felipe back to the hotel from the track.

[R Ginart]

Nico Rosberg

[EL NANO]

Kubica

[EL NANO]

Was 2012 but now maybe 2013 if he recovers fully I have no doubt...

[Suzie]

I think Lewis Hamilton should replace Massa. He's always been my favourite driver and he is an inspiration to everyone, young, old, black, white.

We need someone who will 'race their heart out' at every race and meh... Massa's never been that passionate or Ferrari-esque anyway.

[BaronVonAwesome]

Was 2012 but now maybe 2013 if he recovers fully I have no doubt...

Well you know, you might be surprised about 2012 still, his manager's comment the other day about Monza raised an eyebrow.

[Greig]

I think Lewis Hamilton should replace Massa. He's always been my favourite driver and he is an inspiration to everyone, young, old, black, white.

We need someone who will 'race their heart out' at every race and meh... Massa's never been that passionate or Ferrari-esque anyway.

With Ron replacing Stefano? sounds perfect really.....

[BaronVonAwesome]

I think Lewis Hamilton should replace Massa. He's always been my favourite driver and he is an inspiration to everyone, young, old, black, white.

[shostak]

A look at the silly season in F1

June 16, 2011 by joesaward

The Formula 1 silly season has largely died out in recent years with the top drives often being decided some years in advance. However, the economic climate has led to some shortening of contracts as teams do not want to be committed to pay vast sums when the market has shifted. Ferrari has been busy in recent years paying off Kimi Raikkonen’s deal from a few years ago and while it has signed Fernando Alonso for a new longterm contract, the choice of the second driver for 2012 has yet to be made. The team has an option on Felipe Massa for next year, but this does not mean that it will be taken up. It was significant that Alonso’s new deal was announced without Massa being included in the same announcement.

Mark Webber’s future has been much-discussed of late and while it is logical for Red Bull Racing to retain the Australian as a strong team-mate (but recently not an equal) to Sebastian Vettel, there is one scenario that ought perhaps to be considered. Ferrari has not been entirely happy with the performances of Massa for the last 18 months. Some have speculated that this is because of the head injury he suffered back in 2009, while others have concluded that this had no effect at all and the problem is that he is now up against Alonso – and he is tough for anyone to beat. Ferrari wants two drivers who can push one another and if Massa is not the answer one has to ask who would be the best option to replace him. What is needed in such a situation is a solid team performer who does not have ups and downs. Webber may be just such a driver. He is old enough and wise enough to know that his F1 career has a limited term and that there is no point in going beyond that. He is still very competitive and like most drivers would love to be a Ferrari driver. Webber says that he will decide what he wants to do in a while, but it may be that the much-publicised visit of Flavio Briatore to Maranello a while back was more to do with Webber, who is managed by Briatore, than the daft idea that Briatore might be a potential replacement for Luca di Montezemolo.

Ferrari might choose to bring on a youngster, such as a Kamui Kobayashi or a Sergio Perez, but it is too much to suggest that it would pick an unproven youngster such as Jules Bianchi, as his career path is much more likely to be to a team like Sauber to gain some experience. In the interim Ferrari needs someone who will keep Alonso on the move, without worrying the Spaniard too much, as he has not been very good at handling a competitive team mate in the past.

One needs also to consider the case of Lewis Hamilton and his recent chats with Red Bull Racing. There is, as Hamilton has said, no real reason why he would want to leave McLaren if the team has a competitive car, but for a while now Lewis has been struggling with his machinery and has watched as Red Bull Racing has dominated the sport. It is entirely logical that he would want to consider a switch to Red Bull, just as it is entirely logical that Red Bull would be interested in Hamilton, both as a driver and as a marketing exercise. That might not fit in with the desires of Sebastian Vettel and his supporters within the Red Bull empire but a Hamilton-Vettel combination would be a fine marketing ploy. In order for that to happen, however, Webber needs to move on…

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/...-season-in-f1/

After all i didnt say stupid things...

[Ferrarichamp]

I think Lewis Hamilton should replace Massa. He's always been my favourite driver and he is an inspiration to everyone, young, old, black, white.

We need someone who will 'race their heart out' at every race and meh... Massa's never been that passionate or Ferrari-esque anyway.

OK, but only if that means we get to see Coco in the Ferrari garage..on a regular basis.

[racingbradley]

Me thinks we are beginning to lower the tone of the red cars.

[mm154]

I think that is it, give the boys the tools and they will do the rest. The truth is the car is not the best and that means they cant. Simples.

Now don't get me wrong, I think sticking with Felipe is Ferrari's best option, and the right thing to do, but... That excuse wasn't enough to save Kimi Raikkonen, especially from ridicule on this forum... It was expected that even though the car was not the best/to his style, that he be able to fight for the win anyway, even though we knew he wasn't a driver who was particularly good at development/working around problems... So all I'm getting at is ALL Ferrari drivers must be held to a higher standard, even if the car is an absolute pig, its their job to drive the wheels of it like Gilles Villeneuve literally did... And I think the pass Felipe put on Kobayashi shows he is trying to push the car as hard as possible.

[scuderiafan]

... Jeremy Clarkson. he says power a lot, and Massa doesnt.

[scuderiafan]

Now don't get me wrong, I think sticking with Felipe is Ferrari's best option, and the right thing to do, but... That excuse wasn't enough to save Kimi Raikkonen, especially from ridicule on this forum... It was expected that even though the car was not the best/to his style, that he be able to fight for the win anyway, even though we knew he wasn't a driver who was particularly good at development/working around problems... So all I'm getting at is ALL Ferrari drivers must be held to a higher standard, even if the car is an absolute pig, its their job to drive the wheels of it like Gilles Villeneuve literally did... And I think the pass Felipe put on Kobayashi shows he is trying to push the car as hard as possible.

but to be honest, the F2008 was the class of the field, and that Kimi was paid to do things exactly like Michael and Fernando, as they thought he was as good.