Schumacher lost my respect yday?

[m8g1c]

What was yday all about? Mates or no mates you just don't move out the way for a rival team. It's bad enough Torro Rosso diving out the way at every opportunity. Schumi should have treated vet like any other driver and should have defended, he used the excuse he was going to get him anyways. So last race in Austin, Button was going to get Schumi but that did not stop him from almost putting him into the wall.

The reason why I think Schumi let him through was because he did not want to be the villain. Can you imagine if Schumi had taken him out and the uproar in Germany? He would be knocked off his throne and some people might even suggest he don't want anyone to get close to his titles so he took Vet out

Anyways I'm proud of what Schumi did with Ferrari but the 2nd version was an embarassment with too many rookie errors.

[Massa#1]

Schumi mk2 was clueless.

[Greig]

He fought Kimi for every inch, then let Seb breeze past, he said he would be supporting Seb on the drivers parade as well, but oh well.

[Massimo]

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"

When Schumacher said his heart would always be Ferrari red, and Maranello was where his heart was, i believed him.....then he stabbed us in the back and left, to go to Mercedes.
What happened in the race can only be judged if Alonso had the same encounter with Schumacher, which he didn't.
But to not even go to the Ferrari box, to shake the hands of your Ferrari famiglia, with which he won 5 wdc's, at your final Gp, and party with Red Bull, i find very hard to swallow.

So for now:"bye bye Michael!

[diesel08]

Schumacher WAS Ferrari driver!Yday he let Vettel pas in that way...shame, Ferrari give him 5 titles.

[Grillo]

He's never been Alonso's best friend and is probably ungry with Ferrari for telling him to make a decision about staying or leaving F1 in 2006. He said he was pushed to leave as it would have cost Massa his seat if he stayed but I think he didn't want to stay along Kimi. I hope he's not getting any job at SF untill Alonso is gone or retired.

[Tifosi]

He's never been Alonso's best friend and is probably ungry with Ferrari for telling him to make a decision about staying or leaving F1 in 2006. He said he was pushed to leave as it would have cost Massa his seat if he stayed but I think he didn't want to stay along Kimi. I hope he's not getting any job at SF untill Alonso is gone or retired.

However, it could just be because he wanted his fellow countryman to win

[Uzair Ahmed]

Msc was pathetic yesterday..but I am alright with that better to loose title with 3 points then 1

[justjesper]

It cant be Real. Have we sunken do deep now. We will blame everyone else for what happened ?
Nando got 200% support from the team and all the help he needed from his teammate, and we now blame Schumi for loosing.

[Nova]

Aint touching this thread.

[ferrari4life]

It cant be Real. Have we sunken do deep now. We will blame everyone else for what happened ?
Nando got 200% support from the team and all the help he needed from his teammate, and we now blame Schumi for loosing.

no one is blaming MS for loosing..we are just calling him a classless idiot.

[Tifosi]

It cant be Real. Have we sunken do deep now. We will blame everyone else for what happened ?
Nando got 200% support from the team and all the help he needed from his teammate, and we now blame Schumi for loosing.

He let Vettel through. Deal with it

It made no difference to us, but it was a bit lame.

[fratelliferrari]

Michael will never lose my respect for everything he did for Ferrari. But...Ferrari also did a lot for him so i was not so happy to see him give away the position so easily. But Michael will always stay a Legend for me, after all he did for us!

[FrankAlfa]

This was purely a German to German thing. Ferrari in Schumacher's eyes is a very long time ago. Schumacher's move to let Vettel was purely a patriotic act to his heir. I say on to 2013' and not more talk of 2012'! We have to win in 2013! Forza Alonso! Forza Massa!

Ciao,

Forza Ferrari!!!!

[Grillo]

He let Vettel through. Deal with it

People deal with it. That's why they are commenting on the matter.

No one said he was to blame about anything but not everybody has to respect or like what he did. Some pedigree tifosi don't love Schumacher. Deal with it.

[radosav]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20490409

[scuderiafan]

It doesn't sit well with me either. It wouldn't have mattered, but beefing over for someone on your last race as a 7 times WDC?


Compare that with brazil 2006.

[Greig]

He would have moved over for Alonso just the same I reckon as someone said he would not want to get in the way of the title battle as he knows how that feels (looking at you Damon Hill), makes no difference Webber was able to drop down anyway if needed.

[scuderiafan]

He would have moved over for Alonso just the same I reckon as someone said he would not want to get in the way of the title battle as he knows how that feels (looking at you Damon Hill), makes no difference Webber was able to drop down anyway if needed.

You think so? I kind of see where he is coming from, but it was odd for a racing driver to do that for a guy from another team.

[Ste]

You think so? I kind of see where he is coming from, but it was odd for a racing driver to do that for a guy from another team.

I don't think so. Put yourself in his position. One of your close friends is battling for the championship and trying to overtake you. Do you defend hard and potentially cause an accident, ending his World Championship or do you keep on at full speed and when he is close enough, you let him go.

It was inevitable that Schumacher would have been overtaken, either that lap or the next so what's the point in him costing himself time by defending to a much quicker car? That doesn't make sense. I am sure if he had Alonso right behind him that he also wouldn't have interfered in his race. There's a lot of mutual respect between Alonso and Schumacher, in my opinion.

[Greig]

I don't think Schumi wanted his last race to be remembered for taking out a title challenger, I have no doubt he would not have made life hard for Alonso if it came to it.

But he did want Seb to win it.

[wisepie]

Michael did his fair share of questionable moves when he was with Ferrari and for all his brilliance, he was very much seen to be the villain by non-tifosi and quite honestly,often it was true. Ferrari for MS is in the distant past now, the fact that he went to Mercedes from retirement just smacks of the Deutschland Uber Alles syndrome! For me, he knew exactly what he was doing but what the hell, if it had made any difference to the outcome, it might have been worth criticising him for it!

[Forzi]

Shumi said that he wont interfere with the WDC battle, so i don't see whats the big deal. Hearing what he said, i'm rather sure he would have let Alonso past.

And what's with the idea, that he has a grudge with Ferrari after 2006? He worked for us in the team for a few years afterwards...

[FrankAlfa]

Wasn't it just a few years ago the Vitaly Petrov held up Alonso and cost him the Driver's Title! Schumacher DID influence the title by letting Vettel though without a fight. That is unsportsmanlike! That is not allowing the fight to take place and Schumacher just rolled over to allow Vettel do as he pleased to gain position on Alonso!!!!! This was, The hell with Ferrari (the team that made him Famous and a Record Holder), The Hell with Fighting for position and being a real Fomula One Champion Driver and instead Just give the position away to Vettel because he is a fellow German!

Ciao,

Forza Ferrari!!!!

[Grillo]

Ferrari for MS is in the distant past now, the fact that he went to Mercedes from retirement just smacks of the Deutschland Uber Alles syndrome! For me, he knew exactly what he was doing but what the hell, if it had made any difference to the outcome, it might have been worth criticising him for it!

Didn't he say it felt good working in a team where people speak German (Norbert Haug and ???) very soon after he joined Mercedes? I felt it was aimed at Ferrari. I don't see a problem with him letting Vettel go past since he didn't have the pace for anything but I feel he's still annoyed with Ferrari.

[Rob]

Well wouldnt think he would do anything else to help lil Schumi out. Just got to me. Plus how as SV was coming up to people to overtake, no one really put up much of a challenge for him either.

[Forzi]

Wasn't it just a few years ago the Vitaly Petrov held up Alonso and cost him the Driver's Title! Schumacher DID influence the title by letting Vettel though without a fight. That is unsportsmanlike! That is not allowing the fight to take place and Schumacher just rolled over to allow Vettel do as he pleased to gain position on Alonso!!!!! This was, The hell with Ferrari (the team that made him Famous and a Record Holder), The Hell with Fighting for position and being a real Fomula One Champion Driver and instead Just give the position away to Vettel because he is a fellow German!

Ciao,

Forza Ferrari!!!!

At that point of the race we saw more then enough of incidents. The race conditions weren't really something you would call "safe to fight". In my view, he would have influenced the WDC more if he had defended like he usually does (rather agresivly, making the car wider then it is as the race commenters like to say in my country), heck it might have ended in Vettel going off track, loosing the WDC. He said he would not interfere with Vettel or Alonso in the WDC fight, and he did so. I know we lost the fight that we really deserved to win, but it's not a reason to go along ruining people's reputations, trying to blame it on others.

[Rookie]

Haven't posted in awhile but I'm very surprised about the whole uproar that Schumacher move to let Vettel pass was uncalled for. As I remember Vettel was 2 seconds faster THAN ANYONE on track during those conditions so why would be bother to hold Vettel up? AS far as I saw NOBODY DARED TO INTERFERE with the WDC battle except for the Senna accident. Vettel deserved to win because he climbed up from dead last and We lost plain and simple. Vettel had his share of misfortunes but Ferrari didn't capitalize so we lost. The best guy won and unfortunately he is not wearing red,deal with it and look at next year. But I still stand by that so long as Domenicali is there Ferrari will not win a championship.

[raylinds]

I don't think so. Put yourself in his position. One of your close friends is battling for the championship and trying to overtake you. Do you defend hard and potentially cause an accident, ending his World Championship or do you keep on at full speed and when he is close enough, you let him go.

It was inevitable that Schumacher would have been overtaken, either that lap or the next so what's the point in him costing himself time by defending to a much quicker car? That doesn't make sense. I am sure if he had Alonso right behind him that he also wouldn't have interfered in his race. There's a lot of mutual respect between Alonso and Schumacher, in my opinion.

I agree 100%

[scuderiafan]

I don't think so. Put yourself in his position. One of your close friends is battling for the championship and trying to overtake you. Do you defend hard and potentially cause an accident, ending his World Championship or do you keep on at full speed and when he is close enough, you let him go.

It was inevitable that Schumacher would have been overtaken, either that lap or the next so what's the point in him costing himself time by defending to a much quicker car? That doesn't make sense. I am sure if he had Alonso right behind him that he also wouldn't have interfered in his race. There's a lot of mutual respect between Alonso and Schumacher, in my opinion.

So you do. I can see your point. Now that I remember it, he was going very slowly. Fair enough, i see why he did it. Maybe he would have defended harder if it was anyone other than Vettel.