Red Bull, Mercedes and Lotus targeted by the FIA?

[Giallo 550]

I've been wondering about all the sparks myself. Allowing cheating to continue without any repercussions can only be bad for the sport. I'll echo the notion that Fernando won in Australia and Felipe won in Malaysia, even though NOTHING will be done officially.

[SS454]

There is nothing they can do about Australia which is fine. But if the cars were deemed illegal in Malaysia then the cars guilty should be stripped of their finishing positions and points and the finishing order adjusted accordingly. Then the teams should each receive a set penalty and fine for cheating.

[XXX132]

There is nothing they can do about Australia which is fine. But if the cars were deemed illegal in Malaysia then the cars guilty should be stripped of their finishing positions and points and the finishing order adjusted accordingly. Then the teams should each receive a set penalty and fine for cheating.

How funny that would make the Webber Vettel civil war look......

[Nero Horse]

This story will obviously be quietly swept under a carpet without any penalties, as always is the case when Red Cow is involved. So what else is new...

[Greig]

This story will obviously be quietly swept under a carpet without any penalties, as always is the case when Red Cow is involved. So what else is new...

If you sweep the penalties they got at Monza and Abu Dhabi with it

[wisepie]

Surprised it's all gone quiet on this subject, surely someone is taking the findings seriously enough to have it out with the FIA. Credibility of their position is becoming a bit hard to find, so act now please Todt & Co.

[Forzi]

Surprised it's all gone quiet on this subject, surely someone is taking the findings seriously enough to have it out with the FIA. Credibility of their position is becoming a bit hard to find, so act now please Todt & Co.

Like i said earlier, this might just be not true. Not the first time i guess.

[Alonso14]

How reliable is omnicorse anyway?

[theforce]

I personally think that the FIA will only ban or take points away from mid field teams (such as Sauber in Aus), will be very unlikely to do the same to RBR and I don't see it changing anytime soon. They'll talk about it, let RBR take their time and maybe half ass fix it and continue collecting points and trophies.

Ferrari playing the nice guys and keeping within the rules is not much of a thrill, only way to develop some interesting solutions will to to twist or break some rules if it comes to that...what's the worst, they'll ask us to change it back....or maybe the common theme of double standard will come into play and we'll get points take away

[vcs316]

This story has only appeared on ONE publication - Omnicourse.

No other online/offline publication carry this nor we see any other team commenting on this..

[wisepie]

This story has only appeared on ONE publication - Omnicourse.

No other online/offline publication carry this nor we see any other team commenting on this..

Unfortunately, this is beginning to sound like a red herring, a pity because it would have been good for us if it had been true and action was taken. Oh well, you never know!

[Massimo]

How reliable is omnicorse anyway?

Omnicorse is one of the main motorsport sites in Italy, and have a reasonable good reputation, Editor in chief Franco Nugnes, who wrote this article himself, is well informed and knowledgeable,
Just because, the other sites don't write about it, doesn't mean it's not true, could also mean Nugnes has good sources, or the FIA has decided to not bring this news out, but Nugnes found out through his sources, or he could be completely wrong of course, or maybe an early April 1 joke
This morning he brings the news that Lotus have been asked by the FIA to change the fairings of the suspensions, FIA considers them illegal because they work as a movable aero part.
Let's wait and see if we hear anything about that

[scuderiafan]

BBC: RedBull and Lotus have been banned from the 2013 F1 World Championship on account of illegal floors

Fool story here: http://www.bbcsport.com/formula1/RedBullLotusbanned

[Rob]

Fool story here: http://www.bbcsport.com/formula1/RedBullLotusbanned

we can all dream about that.

[Forzi]

Fool story here: http://www.bbcsport.com/formula1/RedBullLotusbanned

Got me there for a sec

[sagi58]

Dumb question of the day:

So what? So, what if these three teams are on the FIA's radar? Sure, it's an interesting read and could possibly benefit Ferrari!
HOWEVER, this "news" should not have any bearing on Ferrari's plan of action! Ferrari has their own programme to run, their own
development to work on, their own strategy to focus on.

As di Montezemolo said many times, we need to keep our collective nose to the grindstone, if we want success, in any given year!
(OK, OK, I admit, I've paraphrased... but, that's the gist of his comments when he rallies the troops!!)

[Rob]

The Lotus must remove the fairings from suspensions
The FIA ​​has asked the Enstone team to lift the rubber is considered a movable aerodynamic
April 1, 2013 09:32

The Lotus is one of the cars most of the observed Circus: the E21 is the logical evolution of the car which last year was ranked fourth in the Constructors' Championship. The success of Kimi Raikkonen's debut race in Australia in 2013 has certainly increased the curiosity for a team that, although they have a budget that is about half that of the top teams and manage to stay in the fight at the top. CHALLENGED THE FAIRING OF SUSPENSION The Enstone team, however, is under the watchful eye of commissioners of the FIA in addition to being probably one of the three teams that scrutineers are invited to change the splitter and the T Tray to avoid bending measured at Sepang, is was also invited to modify the fairings of arms of the front suspension as has also been reported by BlogF1. RUBBER ELEMENT MOBILE AERODYNAMIC? As you can see in the image Effe 1 Tech, the front suspension of the E21 has a feature distinguente from the others: of the coupling to the body each arm, excluding the strut of the push rod is encased by a second "skin" rubber that closes every crack. For the FIA technical solution that is not legal because it is considered a moving surface motion that maintains the performance of the cleanest streams in the attack of the suspension and thus may affect the aerodynamics. CHANGES FOR CHINA James Allison, therefore, responsible for ensuring that its technicians will amend the cars in time for China, where the E21 will occur without the fairing contested. Curious about the fact that Lotus already last year had adopted solutions very similar and no one had anything to say. It is the most eloquent sign that the team in Enstone afraid somebody for whom the controls are more careful ...

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/260...ioni-della-e21

[Dino]

Inoltre, come si vocifera in questi giorni, la scuderia diretta da James Allison insieme ad altri due team (a quanto pare Red Bull e Mercedes), sarebbe al centro di una polemica sullo splitter anteriore del fondo scocca e il supporto elastico “bib stay”. Praticamente, secondo alcuni, tale supporto farebbe flettere verso l’alto la porzione di pavimento evitando che il pattino inferiore non si consumi. Il tutto per poter consentire alla monoposto di assumere un assetto molto picchiato verso l’anteriore estremizzando l’effetto Rake e di conseguenza aumentare l’effetto sigillo.

Al momento, sono indiscrezioni non confermate ufficialmente e nei giorni del GP della Cina si attendono ulteriori chiarimenti in merito da parte di Whiting e la FIA. E’ curioso che la stagione è appena iniziata e ci siano già polemiche nei confronti di quelle squadre che per il momento hanno dominato la scena dei primi due appuntamenti. La Ferrari, che ha comunque ben figurato in questo avvio di campionato, non sembra al momento al centro di queste attenzioni, con la F138 che pare rispettare le norme dettate dal regolamento. Tra pochi giorni a Shanghai probabilmente si saprà di più.
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Moreover, as there are rumors these days, the team led by James Allison along with two other teams (apparently Red Bull and Mercedes), it would be at the center of a controversy on the front splitter and underbody of the elastic "bib stay" . Practically, according to some, such support would deflect upward the portion of the floor avoiding that the shoe bottom does not consumption. All this in order to allow the car to take a very trim beaten to the front radicalizing effect Rake and thereby increase the effect seal.

At the time, rumors are not confirmed officially and in the days of the Chinese GP expect further clarification by Whiting and the FIA. It 'strange that the season has just begun and there are already controversy against those teams that for the moment have dominated the first two rounds. Ferrari, which has, however, performed well in the start of this season, it seems currently at the center of the attention, with the F138 which seems to comply with the rules laid down in the Regulation. In a few days in Shanghai will probably know more.


http://www.f1passion.it/2013/04/f1-l...eam-rischiano/

[Ferrari_Fanatic]

FIA denies it's asked teams to change splitters

The FIA has denied it has requested Red Bull, Mercedes and Lotus change their splitters prior to the Chinese Grand Prix to avoid sanctions.
Italian media reports that the governing body has written to the three aformentioned teams asking them to adapt their front-splitters, because they're flexing beyond the allowed limit.
The report also claims that should they fail to do so, they will be thrown out of the final classifications as their cars don't meet the technical requirements.
According to an FIA spokesperson, the claims are completely "untrue" and no team has been asked to change its car prior to April's race.

TheF1Times.com

[mark p]

Last season mclaren had to change their floor at china. info did not come out for a few races but their dominance of 1st 2 races quali was cut. sometimes you hear nothing then the story emerges once theres a relative peformance shortfall. heres hoping with upgrades plus others being pegged back ferrari get a 1-2 with ease that would be the best evidence this story is true.

[Hornet]

I've always wondered about those square patches on Lotus' suspension mounting. Pretty ingenious stuff.

[gvera]

I really don't think that an illegal car would have been allowed to race.
Ther are probably just pushing the limits, using mesurements tolerances or something like this. A grey area.
Everybody does that until they get a reprimand or a rule clarification is issued. Remember our flexi-floor?

[FFFerrari]

This is confirmed as hot air from italian press. We can stop discussing this and move on to more pressing issues like how big of a baffoon Vettel is.

[Senna4Ever]

or focus on praying that updates work more than well and front wing lasts more than a light punch in low speed corners

[Domo-kun]

So .. the "good news" was all hoax?