Will Alonso Leave Ferrari at the end of the Season if he doesn't win the WDC?

[Fiondella]

According to DC:

'Alonso is normally so positive about his chances, but his post-race comments were revealing. He said: "They need to do something and they need to do it now." That's as close to banging the table as you get. '

[Senna4Ever]

Can't believe it but wouldn't put my hand into fire as I don't know him personally ...

Other question: where would he go then? Which team for winning WDC?
Mclarens? - No
Lotus (former Renault)? - No, I might be wrong, but he isn't welcome there
RBs? - No not as long Vettel and especially Marko is there. Marko nearly hates Fernando
Merc? - No

so where to go for winning WDC?

[Hornet]

Nah, that's just the press dramatizing everything (yet again)

[REDARMYSOJA]

If he wants to take his toys and leave he can as long as he takes his fans with him. I hope none of them let the door hit them in the behind on the way out.

Ferrari existed for decades without Fernando Alonso and will continue to do so without him. And they will again win championships whether he is there or not.

[Jas]

I would say if where not challenging in 2014 aka winning he will leave and spend his last two years with RBR or Mercades if they are competative...but for 2014 he will be with us, begging to win next year! So nervous about Ferrari engine its unreal! I have a funny feeling!

[AfterLife]

LOL. Despite Alonso insisting he doesn't want to leave Ferrari, again some people draw a conclusion from nothing.

[AfterLife]

If he wants to take his toys and leave he can as long as he takes his fans with him. I hope none of them let the door hit them in the behind on the way out.

I don't think constant attack is the best way

[Senna4Ever]

Ferrari existed for decades without Fernando Alonso and will continue to do so without him. And they will again win championships whether he is there or not.

And I personally would add a wish that it isn't Vettel who is there then ... One from the Scuderia Trainee Program would be fantastico ...

[shamim179]

I don't think he will leave but the team need to be very careful here. If he hears more lies and blaming him for lack of good enough results he'll get very angry and consider elsewhere. What's so disappointing is that almost every other team has gone forwards in terms of performance whereas we have gone sideways despite our immense resources. Frankly, I think there are too many politics at Ferrari everyone covering for each other whereas Alonso may get the feeling he is expendable? Remember towards the end of last year the confrontation with Fry? He has been extremely patient with us but it must be tiring hearing excuses after excuses from the team us fans are tired of it too. The latest media article mentions that the temperatures were too hot which is why the mediums didn't last that long at the start. But Ferrari knew it was going to be hot? Just sounds like another excuse. And when it's hot we perform better - speaking of qualifying but we took a different and risky route.

[REDARMYSOJA]

And I personally would add a wish that it isn't Vettel who is there then ... One from the Scuderia Trainee Program would be fantastico ...

As you pointed out there really is nowhere to go for improvement other than Red Bull, and Red Bull is not going to sign him. The only other possibility would be Lotus but that is more of a sideways move as they are not faring any better than Ferrari really.

[REDARMYSOJA]

I don't think constant attack is the best way

I agree, they need to stop attacking the team and Felipe.

[eddie]

All I can say is that, if Alonso leaves, Ferrari will be regrouping again. Just as they did when Alonso arrived Maranello.

People tend to forget, in F1 these days the team evolves around the driver, when the driver leaves a big ***** of the important guys either get roles swaps or leaves.

Just as ACosta, CDyer and we got in PFry. To me those are BIG changes...

Personally I don't think Alonso will leave, but then what do I know ;)

[Tobes]

Voted NO, I think it's unlikely he's even thinking about it...

It is suggested above that he won't leave because there is no better team for him to, he's said he will finish his career at Ferrari more than once, so maybe that isn't the point, maybe a sabbatical (it revitalised Kimi) or retirement are also possible, I read a comment from him recently where he said family is 90% of his life, racing is the other 10%, maybe he's just becoming a bit disillusioned with it all...

[eddie]

Voted NO, I think it's unlikely he's even thinking about it...

It is suggested above that he won't leave because there is no better team for him to, he's said he will finish his career at Ferrari more than once, so maybe that isn't the point, maybe a sabbatical (it revitalised Kimi) or retirement are also possible, I read a comment from him recently where he said family is 90% of his life, racing is the other 10%, maybe he's just becoming a bit disillusioned with it all...

Totally agree, press trying to sell more creating funny stories...

Alonso will stay with us for a while :)

[Jacquesvw]

If he wants to take his toys and leave he can as long as he takes his fans with him. I hope none of them let the door hit them in the behind on the way out.

Ferrari existed for decades without Fernando Alonso and will continue to do so without him. And they will again win championships whether he is there or not.

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[Kingdom Hearts]

If he wants to take his toys and leave he can as long as he takes his fans with him. I hope none of them let the door hit them in the behind on the way out.

Ferrari existed for decades without Fernando Alonso and will continue to do so without him. And they will again win championships whether he is there or not.

No need to be that aggressive. Are you against Alonso already?.

[Hornet]

If he wants to take his toys and leave he can as long as he takes his fans with him. I hope none of them let the door hit them in the behind on the way out.

Ferrari existed for decades without Fernando Alonso and will continue to do so without him. And they will again win championships whether he is there or not.

I don't think it's fair to generalize that the people who criticize the team and Massa are Alonso fans. We have to remember that
1. There have always been people who are critical of Ferrari and Massa long before Alonso joined.
2. There are also Massa's fans who are critical of the team, lets not deny that.

As far as the support for Alonso in Ferrari, I'm sure he has won over many Ferrari's long time fan too with the thing he has achieved since he came aboard. People who would still continue following Ferrari after Alonso retires.

Not that I agree with the constant bashing against Ferrari of course, but I don't feel is right to antagonize any group of driver's fan. Many of the criticism comes from people who have been following Ferrari before Alonso or Massa joined the team. I guess it's just different Ferrari fans with different mindset.

Kimi too has received a lot of criticism during his time in Ferrari. Such criticism isn't unique to a particular driver of fans.

[Rob]

No.

Simple, he will stay, its DC trying to flame the fire were there is nothing there.

[Gerhard Berger]

Can't believe it but wouldn't put my hand into fire as I don't know him personally ...

Other question: where would he go then? Which team for winning WDC?
Mclarens? - No
Lotus (former Renault)? - No, I might be wrong, but he isn't welcome there
RBs? - No not as long Vettel and especially Marko is there. Marko nearly hates Fernando
Merc? - No

so where to go for winning WDC?

I agree with this. He has no where else to go. He burnt his bridges at Mclaren. In the second half of 2009, Bouller was blaming Renault's poor performance on Alonso. I don't think he sees eye to eye with Boullier. As you said for Red Bull, Marko would not want him there. Merc would have been a possiblity last year (before they signed Hamilton). I think Brawn has said he would like to work with Alonso. However, at the moment Mercedes have 2 drivers under contract.

[Bubbles]

Actually, I think Red Bull would welcome him even at the expense of Vettel.

[diesel08]

If he wants to take his toys and leave he can as long as he takes his fans with him. I hope none of them let the door hit them in the behind on the way out.

Ferrari existed for decades without Fernando Alonso and will continue to do so without him. And they will again win championships whether he is there or not.

Problems with Fernando's fan?

[Meiga]

This is the most unanimous poll I have seen in a long time

Seriously, why would Alonso leave Ferrari? Yes, the car is not great, but the answer to that is to turn it around, not to switch teams.

[Catalan]

Alonso will not leave. He has said a number of times that Ferrari will be his last time in F1 as this is the place where he wants to be. He said, no long ago, that even if he doesn't win another title, he will stay at Maranello. The only way I can imagine him out of Ferrari is that, for some reason, the team would like to get rid of him, which, to me, sounds incredible as of today.

He explains again and again that, in a bad year at Renault ( 2009, for example ), he had no options, he was on a constant basis 14th; a bad year in Ferrari means that he will still be out there in the front package, maybe not leading but grabbing some podiums, and reminds that in 2 of his 3 seasons in red he has kept his chances to become champ until the very last race.

[diesel08]

I don't think it's fair to generalize that the people who criticize the team and Massa are Alonso fans. We have to remember that
1. There have always been people who are critical of Ferrari and Massa long before Alonso joined.
2. There are also Massa's fans who are critical of the team, lets not deny that.

As far as the support for Alonso in Ferrari, I'm sure he has won over many Ferrari's long time fan too with the thing he has achieved since he came aboard. People who would still continue following Ferrari after Alonso retires.

Not that I agree with the constant bashing against Ferrari of course, but I don't feel is right to antagonize any group of driver's fan. Many of the criticism comes from people who have been following Ferrari before Alonso or Massa joined the team. I guess it's just different Ferrari fans with different mindset.

Kimi too has received a lot of criticism during his time in Ferrari. Such criticism isn't unique to a particular driver of fans.

Very clever your comment and I agree with you. I am Ferrari fan since 1994, Schumacher fan since 1996, Alonso's fan since 2004. I never criticize Massa or Ferrari team in this forum!" If "mediator" like tony or redarmysonia is so ironic I quit this site. I am not 25 year old. Remember, ferrari fan is NOT only member on this forum.

[Hermann]

Fernando has a contract until 2016, i always find it quite funny when people in forums take some rubbish article to 1. make up a story, 2. bash the driver in question + his fans (with both saying nothing actually) for the self made story, and 3. blaming said driver and his fans for self made story. Amazing.

[Nero Horse]

Voted for NO! But if he wants to leave, then he's welcome to do so. Ferrari existed waaaaay before Alonso was even born and has triumphed without him, so he ain't no "holy God's gift to Ferrari" who should be begged to stay on, as many of his fanboys try to make it look like. With or without Alonso, Ferrari will do just fine and will triumph again, I have no doubt about that. I mean don't get me wrong, I sincerely love and respect Alonso as a Ferrari driver and I want him to stay with us for many more years, but him leaving from Ferrari certainly wouldn't be "the end of the world". Drivers come and go, but Ferrari will always be there. We survived Schumacher's departure and so I'm sure we will survive Alonso's departure as well. And quite frankly most of his fanboys are really annoying and arrogant (no offence intended to normal Alonso fans who respect Ferrari too), so if Alonso would leave from Ferrari and take his annoying fanboys with him then that really wouldn't be such a bad trade-off. But like I said, I certainly hope he will stay...and if not...well nothing tragic. *shrugs*

[diesel08]

Fernando has a contract until 2016, i always find it quite funny when people in forums take some rubbish article to 1. make up a story, 2. bash the driver in question + his fans (with both saying nothing actually) for the self made story, and 3. blaming said driver and his fans for self made story. Amazing.

[Giallo 550]

According to DC:

'Alonso is normally so positive about his chances, but his post-race comments were revealing. He said: "They need to do something and they need to do it now." That's as close to banging the table as you get. '

Yeah, they need to do something and they need to do it now if we have a shot this season. Another big deal over absolutely nothing.

[FFFerrari]

Voted No since it's highly unlikely that he will leave. Where would he go? McLaren is a no-no, even without Ron, Mercedes is a valid option but they are more or less locked for the future (I bet Ross would love to have Fernando there), Lotus is a possibility but it would in a way be a step down/sideways and RBR is something only Fernando-fans will dream about as it's widely known that Helmut Marko doesn't like him.

He does have a contract up to 2016, but then again so did Kimi for 2010. If he keeps plodding without titles for 2013-2015, I could see that he will retire one year early but without moving to another team. He seems a lot more vocal and frustrated lately and obviously for a good reason, but it's very uncharacteristic of him.

And I have to agree with REDARMYSOJA that the attacks against the team and Felipe from Fernando-fans are lame and tiresome and something we could live without.

[Senna4Ever]

If he wants to take his toys and leave he can as long as he takes his fans with him. I hope none of them let the door hit them in the behind on the way out.

Ferrari existed for decades without Fernando Alonso and will continue to do so without him. And they will again win championships whether he is there or not.

Problems with Fernando's fan?

Don't think so ...
He just get's angry when people starts complaining that the FERRARI car isn't good enough for this or that driver. And as he also wrote: drivers will come and go (and leave more or less traces in the history of the prancing horse) but Ferrari will be the constant ... he cares about the Scuderia first ... and then the driver ...
And even he don't like Fernando (and his fans) he appreciates the work he is doing for the team and shows every weekend that he is a racer and never gives up ... (would have quoted the posting from Redarmysoja where he wrote why Fernando fit to this team so well)... found it

No one thinks that things are going well for Massa, even his most ardent fans. However, as long as he remains a Scuderia Ferrari driver he deserves our support and for some of us long time fans he has earned that support. Everyone can't be a general, you need soldiers and Massa has been a good soldier for Ferrari for a long time, in the same mold as Jean Alesi and Lorenzo Bandini. Both of those guys never came as close as Felipe to winning a championship and they only won one race for Ferrari, but they earned the respect and support of long time Ferrari fans. They show fighting spirit and that is all we ask. So we are not going to dump on them when they are down.

When they don't show fight and don't seem to care is when we tire of them, which is what happened to Kimi, many of us just felt he didn't care anymore. So that goes to show that winning races and or a championship is not what some of us require to support a driver while at Ferrari. We want one who we know shares our passion and puts forth the effort, which is why Alonso has fit in so well. We know he cares and wants to win as bad as we do and will stay dedicated to it.

But the most important thing for everyone to remember is that who drives the 2nd Ferrari will not be decided by vote over the internet. So to constantly complain about Massa is an exercise in futility and only serves to cause disruption and is not supportive of the team in general. True character shows when times are tough and those that do nothing but carp and complain and especially those who want to single out Massa to vent their frustration on are not showing much character during a tough time.

But I bet Redarmysoja will tell you with his own words ...

But (and that is a very good point from @Hornet) the attack against the team and also against Felipe isn't only from Fernando Fans alone ... so maybe too general spoken and too easy ...