But there is also his disadvantage. If he goes to Red Bull, what do you think? Whenever there will be a 1-2 finish, then every time Fernando will be ordered to let Vettel pass him. Can Fernando handle that?Originally Posted by FerrariFanBoii
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But there is also his disadvantage. If he goes to Red Bull, what do you think? Whenever there will be a 1-2 finish, then every time Fernando will be ordered to let Vettel pass him. Can Fernando handle that?
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Ladies, ladies...!
There is no doubt that at Ferrari, ALO has driven his butt off in cars that have rarely been the fastest in the field. He missed out on TWO WDCs by a tiny margin. I know he has had the odd 'off day' but his effort at Ferrari has been great. He IS the best 'complete' driver out there at the moment.
Ferrari really need to get their act together so Fernando can fight for - at least - runner up this year. It all starts again in 2014 with the new regs. For many, that will be make or break. Surprised if ALO quits this season but if Ferrari build another second-rate car in '14 he would be entitled to go, surely...?
Trying to be less angry..
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Horner is just using Alonso rumours as a pawn to get others to commit to Red Bull, nothing more.
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Alonso won 2 titles with Renault, the only think that is more satisfying is to win with Ferrari, not Red Bull or any other team.
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Yeah, but currently Ferrari is not the best team. Look at the pace. Ferrari has lost both qualifying and racing paces. Not consistent at all. The main thing, which sounds really bad is that, Mercedes is above Ferrari, which is kinda *****.
**Mind the language please**
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He is getting more credit and appreciation for his driving at Ferrari than he would be getting winning in the Red Bull.
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Ferrari needs to build up a much more competitive car. Appreciation from fans won't give him Driver's Championship. Also, Constructor's championship is in doubt as well.
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exactly
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Well it was just waiting to happen, I can recall in 2012 after Italy Fernando and Ferrari were convinced that at Singapore they would get Pole and Win due to the new reportedly aero package that the team brought But what happened A poor Qualy and a Podium only whereas RB8 was in overdrive and won 4 consecutive races from then on..IN India 2012 there were also reports that Ferrari again have a massive aero package that didn't deliver and it also happened in Abu Dhabi 2012 .so the Desperation is right and he must be frustrated because last year Alonso had a 40 point lead over the summer break and then it was a downhill pattern with the car failing to set a fastest lap in the whole 2012 and not a single pole position in the dry ..And everyone has the right to support Ferrari for whatever reason he wants in my opinion I love Ferrari cuz of Fernando Alonso and its heritage in F1 so pin pointing us lot as "Alonso Fan boys" its not fair and right ..
ANYWAYS I HAVE FAITH IN THE TEAM FERRARI AND FERNANDO ALONSO so I will support both till there is even a Mathematical possibility in 2010 the Same Fernando an "average" driver as some people have called him on this forum closed a 47 point gap and was in the lead in points heading into the Final race so still everything to play for
FORZA FERRARI FORZA FERNANDO ALONSO
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You put your finger on it. Seems Bianchi is the key as he will bring major money to Lotus and, combined with Kimi's hefty salary leaving, puts Lotus in very good financial shape.
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I think Kimi is only making somewhere around $3 million this season, which is two more than Grosjean. He does get a points finish bonus but seeing as how they haven't even been paying him lately, it's not like he's sucking the team dry! If anything I'd say Raikkonen's popularity is helping Lotus right now.
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Vettel really squirmed here when asked about the prospect of Alonso as a teammate.
Don't play dumb with me. I'm better at it than you are.
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I still say the only way RB would be seriously considering Kimi or Alonso would be because there is a good chance Vettel is leaving.
Another possibility however is that Dieter Mateschitz is/was seriously miffed about what Vettel did at Malaysia in passing Webber, and this is Mateschitz way of reminding Vettel who really runs the team. It has been said Mateschitz is rather fond of Webber and it was only because of Mateschitz that Webber stayed. So I could see this as Dieter saying to Vettel "You bullied my guy to the point he left, now let's see if you can do that to Kimi or Alonso."
Don't play dumb with me. I'm better at it than you are.
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What was probably an informal meeting has been blown entirely out of proportion.
Why on earth would Fernando want to switch now, when we all know that a massive rule change next year may well reshuffle the grid order again?
And, why would RBR want a World Champion if they already have one?
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Alonso is going nowhere. He will stay at Ferrari. Of course he's disappointed ( aren't we ? ), but he keeps his faith come Spa and Monza. In case there is a big step forward, it will be welcome and will fight for title. If not, then I think he will start thinking in 2014, but always as Ferrari driver. He has told it a lot of times. He will end his career in Ferrari. And knowing him, I simply can't imagine he is going to Red Bull to fight with Vettel. He already underwent that experience in 2007 at McLaren ( joining a team where everybody loves your team mate and nobody cares about you ).
It's a shame that the best F1 driver is forced to compete playing catch up every race, starting fifth or seventh, while his opponents have a fastest car. I understand his frustation. He said it on Saturday. " We've been 1 second behind Red Bull last four years, I'm not asking for a car which is 3 tenths faster than the opposition, just a car which is at the same level, that would be enough. I just want to fight them with the same guns "
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I'd be astonished if Alonso went to Red Bull and partnered Vettel. Cannot see that hapening at all. Vettel would not want it and I would not have thought that Alonso would want to share the team with Vettel also. Alonso will stay at Ferrari.
I'd say Greig is likely right when he says Horner is using Alonso as a pawn.
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I think you hid the nail right on it's head with that statement.
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Fernando plays a delicate game of bluff
Could Alonso really drive for Red Bull in 2014? Stranger things have happened, but not many. The Spaniard, lest we forget, has a long-term contract with the Scuderia. Still, what better way of galvanising a team in danger of losing its way this season and reminding the Ferrari hierarchy that their prized asset may not necessarily be keen on finishing his career in Italy? Alonso has firmly thrown the ball back into their court.
As for Red Bull, while there is no downside to letting the speculation fester through the summer break, they will surely overlook pairing Vettel with Alonso for precisely the same reason Ferrari shied away from the idea twelve months ago. Despite their protestations to the contrary, if Red Bull were really inclined to determine the identity of their driver line-up purely on merit then the team would have surely taken up the obvious opportunity during Hamilton's interminable deliberations last year to suggest he either stayed on for one more season at McLaren or included an opt-out clause in his Mercedes deal. Mark Webber's retirement has, after all, been a long time coming.
Two number ones just isn't the way of the current Formula One.
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/...3-hungarian-gp
Meanwhile, it either says something or just nothing that Alonso, Schumacher and Raikkonen have reputedly spared a F1 podium on five occasions and Fernando has stood on the top step on every occasion. He's F1's first among equals. (PG)
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I agree with this entirely, and who knows whether the 2014 RB will still be the class of the field, so why would Fernando want to jump ship now when next year will be a fresh start for everyone. James Allison should hopefully make a difference and there are still 9 races to go, but we now have 3 other teams to worry about, 4 if you now include Mclaren, so it's going to be painfully hard.
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This ain't gonna happen.'With Alonso saying before that he would end his career at Ferrari.
Why DONT WE HIRE KIMI FOR NEXT SEASON?
btw,Really pinning my hopes on james allison ,that we build a spectacularly fast car and thus no such rumors.
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I hope this doesn't end badly, in a meltdown.
In Stefano Domenicali, we have a team boss who has proved to be a leader. - Luca diMontezemelo
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now that's complete rubbish, do not want to take a dig at Massa, but after they kept him so long underperforming (in both qualifying and races), no-one in team should even think about saying how much Fernando gets out of the car. journalists really they have to make up stories so that summer break wouldn't be that boringSources close to Ferrari say the team are not entirely convinced Alonso always gets the best out the car in qualifying
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I have a feeling that the meltdown has already started. Otherwise Luca's latest comments don't make any sense at all. Horner would love to have Alonso. He knows deep down that Alonso is overall a better driver than Vettel so it is likely he will bring even better results than Vettel and more so when the car isn't so easy to drive as has been at times at Red Bull and during those times Webber has come out on top.
Seems like a marriage gone wrong!
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Always seems to be Hungary causing bother for Fernando
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Also seems the timing to release Allison's appointment is to make Alonso think that the team is building itself to become stronger therefore the car will become better in the near future.
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Ferrari need to be very careful here. I said this many months ago. But I feel like they did the wrong thing to make these statements public. It's worse than what happened with Lewis at McLaren. McLaren were desperate to keep hold of Lewis but here with Ferrari it seems we are too proud to appear desperate to hang onto Alonso and praise him highly but rather talk about that he hasn't performed to his maximum at times and this could really well be decider. Most educated fans, teams, paddock and experts know the Alonso places the car where it shouldn't belong. Assume that Alonso underpeforms in the Ferrari then how must be Massa be performing? And why are Ferrari so gentle on Massa year after year where the points gap to Alonso is so big? Stinks of double standards. How Ferrari handled this situation is a little reminiscent of how Kimi was treated towards the end of his term at Ferrari so this approach to these situations goes directly to the man at the helm of Ferrari.
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This will end up with great make-up sex !
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