German GP Race Thread

[gvsnraju85]

Massa fastest

[maho]

massa fl

[Greig]

FL Massa still ruining our race the idiot LOL

[vagos]

massa fl now WHAT A RACE!!!!! BUTTON DID WELL AS WELL THOUGH

[Ste]

Gap between Alonso and Massa is 0.4.

Now 0.8, Massa FL 1.18.7.

[ICEMAN_89]

didn't look like that. Alonso almost hit Massa's right rear

[gvsnraju85]

Massa fastest.....I think he got the tyre in temprature....now alonso fastest....gr8 battel

[Ste]

Come on JB, take that rat infront of you. :-D

[SanderV]

Massa has found some pace.

[Ste]

Another FL from Massa, a whole second quicker than Alonso. Wow.

[Greig]

Massa is totally ruining it now!!!!!

[Greig]

didn't look like that. Alonso almost hit Massa's right rear

But he never :-)

[vagos]

Come on JB, take that rat infront of you. :-D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH I AM WITH YOU

[Ste]

Massa is totally ruining it now!!!!!

He's much quicker now for some reason.
Alonso missed his chance with those backmarkers for sure.

[ICEMAN_89]

But he never :-)

No but it was damn close was it:)

[Greig]

He's much quicker now for some reason.
Alonso missed his chance with those backmarkers for sure.

Unfair he should be slower than Alonso, Mirage said so :-)

[vagos]

TYRES MUST BE WORKING OK NOW FOR MASSA

[vagos]

Unfair he should be slower than Alonso, Mirage said so :-)

:-):lol:lol

[Ste]

Ted says:

"We can't understand exactly what Alonso says, but he'll be thinking that Massa is backing him into Vettel. Discussions on the pit wall, waving hands from Chris Dyer. We understand Fernando is quicker. Considering a switch, but they can't just say switch, so they'll fight it out"

[gvsnraju85]

I couldnt understand what alonso was saying, anyone?

thats ridiculous

[Greig]

Ferrari won't be giving any orders, come on Felipe

[maho]

2.68 seconds gap Massa and Alonso!

[gvsnraju85]

Massa 3rd successive fatest lap of the race

[Naeem]

The Massa to Vettel Gap has stayed the same whereas Alonso is yo-yoing between the two.

[Greig]

Is Nando sulking? or saving fuel and tyres?

[gvsnraju85]

Massa has built a gap...maybe Alonso slowed down to conserve tyres .................reduce the tyre temprature

[Ste]

Massa is SO much quicker. 3 tenths in S2, every time. A tenth in s3.

Another FL from Massa on a 1.18.399, 4 tenths quicker than Alonso.

Gap now 3.4.

[vagos]

again massa FL

[m schumy]

Felipe FL

[Ste]

Is Nando sulking? or saving fuel and tyres?

Could be saving fuel, Massa may have to do that later.

[Grinsomx]

Massa is flying around, hope his tyres hold out

[Ste]

Massa radio:

"Gap is 3s, we NEED everything, keep this going, gap is everything, we can win"

[gvsnraju85]

Rob asks massa to concentrate

[Aussie]

Ferrari 1 2 thats all i want

[maho]

Alonso FL

[DIEK]

Alonso FL!! :clap

[m schumy]

Alonso FL

[Ste]

Ok, so it was fuel saving then.

Alonso now quicker, By 2 tenths. And now 2 tenths quicker in S1 alone.

Massa will have to fuel save soon then, I imagine.

Gap down to 3.3s.

Alonso quick in S2 as well, 2 tenths quicker. Purple, purple.

[SanderV]

Great to see Massa is back on form. Alonso matching him now.

[m schumy]

InsideFerrari

After 25 laps Felipe is leading with 2.4 ahead of Fernando and 4.2 on Vettel Hamilton is 4th 12.2 from Felipe

[racingbradley]

I think I understand how Christian Horner feels when his legs begin to shake ;-);-)
I now know the feeling!!!!!!

[Lesky]

Alonso biding his time and will come back with the death blow later in the race, mark my words :-)

[vagos]

i personally dont care who wins i want a ferrari 1-2 from now on :-)

[Greig]

Vettel ain't going away

[Naeem]

Vettel cant live with us!

[m schumy]

InsideFerrari

Fernando saved the tyres and now is pushing to reduce the gap from Felipe

[DIEK]

Alonso FL!! :clap

And again! :-G

[Greig]

i personally dont care who wins i want a ferrari 1-2 from now on :-)

Anything less now will be disappointing

[vagos]

Anything less now will be disappointing
yep i agree

[Ste]

Vettel ain't going away

He's an additional second back, now 2.5s. So not too bad.

Massa now 2 tenths quicker in S2 on this lap than Alonso.

Whoa, Fastest lap from Massa now. 3.2s gap. 1.17.991.

[Greig]

LOL @ Eddie Jordan, what a fool he is

[ferrari4life]

please just finish the race 1-2..u can work out who needs the points for the championship later on...webber needs to jump those mclarens and take some points away from them

[Greig]

FL Massa

[maho]

1.17.991 #Massa

[gvsnraju85]

Massa FL1:17:997

[vagos]

massa FL again we are absolutely flying!

[Ste]

Gap to Vettel increased by 0.7 on the previous lap.

Alonso purple in S1, Massa PB. Alonso PB in S2.

We're flying. Fingers crossed.

[Ste]

Alonso FL now. 1.17.751.

This is amazing guys, keep this up, please!

[racingbradley]

I just hope we get a Ferrari 1-2

[Becool70]

Alonso will catch Massa soon again, ALO is faster he is clearly saving fuel and tyres... Lets hope VET does not spoil the party... GO FERRARI!!!!

[Aussie]

alonso is quick

[gvsnraju85]

Now alonso fastest

[maho]

LOL Alonso and Massa are fighting it out for the FL. ALonso now.

[DJN4CER]

Alonso FL

[vagos]

what a race!!! alonso FL again we are the fastest car!!!!! damn YEAH!

[DIEK]

And again! :-G

And other!

[Ste]

Alonso 3 tenths quicker in S1 than Massa on this lap and another tenth in S2.

Vettel 6 tenths down after 2 sectors.

Alonso another 2 tenths quicker in S2. Gap is 2.3. 6 tenths quicker on that lap.

[Grinsomx]

lovely to see our cars fighting for FL's

[vagos]

COME ON BUTTON PASS HAMSTER!!!!! OR CRASH HIM HAHAHAHAHAH

[maho]

Alonso dropped the gap between himself and Massa.. now 2.3secs

[Ste]

Ok, so the gap to Massa is coming back quickly now. Alonso 3 tenths up in S1 again and quicker in S2.

Will be fighting again very shortly. Gap to Vettel is 4.6s.

[gvsnraju85]

Now alo is faster than massa

[vagos]

alonso is pushing now.......... lets see

[vagos]

2 secs difference

[Ste]

Our car looks SO drivable. Touch wood of course.

[Greig]

Come on Lewis do something crazy :-)

[DJN4CER]

Whats all this talk about RB and Ferrari having illegal flexible front wings?

[Naeem]

I love how quick we are. Its been a while. Its been too long.

[Ste]

Alonso lost 2 tenths to Massa that time around .And had a shocking S1 this time, 4 tenths down.

[SanderV]

Vettel PB, quicker than Ferraris.

[gvsnraju85]

Nico hulkenburg:pitstop 2.9 secs

[Ste]

Come on Lewis do something crazy :-)

I can't do with any more excitement. :lol

Massa 0.4s quicker that time around than Alonso.

Gap is now 6.9 to Vettel.

[gvsnraju85]

Sutil into pits again....hw many times will he do it??

[Grinsomx]

could we see another round of pitstops?

[Ste]

Alonso purpling it up now. Purple S1, Purple S2. FL

1.17.666. Gap to Massa is 2.5s

[gvsnraju85]

Alo fastest:1:17:666

[vagos]

alonso 1:17:666 devilisious lap heheheheeh COME ON FERRARIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[Becool70]

Eddie Jordan on BBC said that Alonso got overconfident at the start?? I cannnot belive this ridiculous individula can comment on F1... clown!!

[vagos]

who cares about eddie jordan hehehehee

[m schumy]

Alonso FL

[vagos]

hahahahahaha to hamster on radio CONSERVE FUEL HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Ste]

Hamilton being asked to conserve fuel. :lol

Alonso FL again. 1.17.495. Took 4 tenths out of Massa in S3.

[vagos]

MAYBE THAT MEANS dont fight with button for the race hahahahahaha

[gvsnraju85]

Will the tyres last the entire race wiith this kind of pace??

[DJN4CER]

Alonso closing in on Massa 1.7 behind him

[Ste]

Eddie Jordan on BBC said that Alonso got overconfident at the start?? I cannnot belive this ridiculous individula can comment on F1... clown!!

No he said he made a mistake with the backmarkers. :-)

[vagos]

i certainly do hope so!!!

[gvsnraju85]

Di grassi's rear light hanging

[Ste]

Massa lost 4 tenths in traffic then. S1.

[Grinsomx]

and the virgin is falling apart again

[maho]

1.4 seconds gap between our boys.

[Ste]

Gap is now 1.1s to Alonso. Traffic cost Massa dearly.

[maho]

I hope Hamilton runs out of fuel and has to park his car!!!

[Ste]

Webber Radio:

You need to drop back a 4s gap to Button ahead, stay flat on the straight.

Do you want me to stay out of his tow or just lift?

Make a 4s gap, and DO NOT lift on the straight.

[Brakefade]

Alonso may be driving with a problem. You can see him lurge forward on the on-board shots in places where he should be pinned to the back of the seat.

[DJN4CER]

I hope Hamilton runs out of fuel and has to park his car!!!

I rather see him lose control and take a couple of cars with him

[Becool70]

I dont care what happends lets not come together and crash please.....

[Ste]

Alonso may be driving with a problem. You can see him lurge forward on the on-board shots in places where he should be pinned to the back of the seat.

That's called G-Force. :-)

[Becool70]

As a team ALO needs the points more than Massa but hey....

[Grinsomx]

as long as we take the 1-2, i'll be happy with any result

[Greig]

FL Vettel

[vagos]

vettel FL maybe we are taking it easy

[Ste]

This is incredible. Both our guys lapping within 3 hundredths of each other.

Vettel does a FL.

Webber has a too high oil consumption.

[Greig]

As a team ALO needs the points more than Massa but hey....

team gets the same points with a 1-2 sorry :-)

[vagos]

as long as we take the 1-2, i'll be happy with any result

[vagos]

maybe we are doing fuel and tyre saving.................

[Ste]

Another FL from Vettel. 1.17.170.

[boysband]

what did Ted said about redbull? I gut cut off by ads

[m schumy]

Vettel FL

[DJN4CER]

I must admit its refreshing to see Ferrari pulling away from everyone

[Ste]

what did Ted said about redbull? I gut cut off by ads

Nothing. He was talking about Webber. :-)

[vagos]

vettel is closing the gap !!! i am getting anxious now come on i want the 1-2!!!

[m schumy]

InsideFerrari

Just one second between Felipe and Fernando margin remained stable in the last 4 laps

[Ste]

Alonso now 0.8 behind Massa.

Vettel FL again, but only a tenth quicker than Alo.

[SanderV]

Hope we can react to Vettel. Alonso closing on Massa.

[vagos]

vettel again fl

[maho]

Vettel FL again.

[ferrari4life]

are ferarri in the middle of this flex wing saga?

[gvsnraju85]

Alonso within a sec of massa...another battle brewing???????????????????

[DJN4CER]

Alonso only .8 behind Massa

[gvsnraju85]

Schmi managed to get into points

[Ste]

Top 3 are lapping 1.3s quicker than P4 downwards.

[vagos]

webber has problem at oil consumption

[LAROSA SpA]

Were about to catch the big traffic group

[gvsnraju85]

Webber has probs with oil consumption...... Asked to brake late

[boysband]

Nothing. He was talking about Webber. :-)

yeah,, thats what I meant.. typo earlier.. :)

[boysband]

Nothing. He was talking about Webber. :-)

yeah,, thats what I meant.. typo earlier.. :)

[gvsnraju85]

Ferrari in a league of its own

[Ste]

Vettel closed by 0.4s on the last lap. Alonso had a poor S2, Massa a poor S1.

Quicker than Vettel in S1 this time around. Both Massa and Alonso doing 16.9's.

[DJN4CER]

are ferarri in the middle of this flex wing saga?

Yeah they said its them and RB supposedly using flexible front wings

[vagos]

alonso faster thatn massa............maybe he is attacking!

[Greig]

Massa told to move

[Ste]

Alonso FL again.

Massa Team radio:

"ok so fernando is faster...than you. Can you confirm you understood that message"

OH GOD, THEY'RE GOING FOR THE SWITCH.

[m schumy]

Alonso FL

[SanderV]

Oh please...

[vagos]

hahahahahahah team orders here........... fernando is faster than you!!!!! can you confirm that message???????

[maho]

lol OK Fernando is faster than you - Rob Smedley

[gvsnraju85]

Whats that supposed to mean??? Fernando is faster than you....does it mean let him pass??????

[vagos]

i dont like it.............

[DJN4CER]

it was said on the team radio to Massa "Alsonso is fater than you, can you confirm that message"

[Ste]

Worried about this, they'll probably give us a penalty for making the switch.

Gap now 0.8s.

[ales]

No!!!

[SanderV]

Nooooooo

[Greig]

Mirage will be happy now

[maho]

the switch...

[m schumy]

Alonso passed Massa

[vagos]

THAT IS A SCANDAL I DONT LIKE IT!!! ANYHOW.......

[gvsnraju85]

Massa backed off,,,,,,,so there are team oders after all

[ICEMAN_89]

omg team orders anyone?

[Ste]

Ok so Ferrari make the switch, Massa moves over, Alonso takes the place.

Really don't like this. Good for the Championship, but still.

[Katu]

they could have waited for 5-6 laps before doing that

[Brakefade]

We're gonna get in trouble. :-??

[vagos]

NOT GOOD anyhow forza ferrariiiiiiiii

[boysband]

alonso "passed" massa... good decision.. alonso need all the points available

[Ste]

Massa radio:

"Ok mate, good lad, just stick with him now. Sorry."

[maho]

Worried about this, they'll probably give us a penalty for making the switch.

Gap now 0.8s.

Given recent decisions against us I wouldnt be suprised. They didnt even appear to look like they did the switch covertly.

[Greig]

What a shame for Rob and Felipe :-(

[gvsnraju85]

Did rob just say 'Stick with it now, Sorry?????'

[vagos]

they also said thank you to massa hahahahahah

[OldskoolF1]

that just spoiled the race for me

[ales]

"stick with him now ... sorry"

If it were any other team than the one I support I'd be screaming for the FIA to disqualify both drivers.

[vagos]

Did rob just say 'Stick with it now, Sorry?????'
yep

[Mitra]

:-E
poor Rob and Felipe
come on i will be happy with 1 and 2 anyway

[gvsnraju85]

i hope it is not againt any kind of regulations.....i mean no penalty!!!!!!!

[FFFerrari]

Disgusting. That is a sure penalty there....

[Zenmaster]

Massa deserved this one :-s

[SanderV]

Really don't like this.

[m schumy]

A bit too obvious....

[gvsnraju85]

that just proved it ....Massa lifted off a bit and nando got ahead

[Naeem]

I can no longer enjoy this race. As an Alonso-fanboy i'm ashamed.

[Lesky]

We just realized why Massa was given a new contract unfortunately :lou

[Greig]

Disgusting. That is a sure penalty there....

No chance of a penalty

[DJN4CER]

is it just me or did they just make it way to obvious over the team radio to let Alonso pass?

[OldskoolF1]

for the first time in years im disgusted with Ferrari. very sour taste in the mouth

[vagos]

i cant believe it is not good that would have been the first win of massa after the accident..............

[Shahid]

Dont like it but it did have to happen.

Sorry Felipe.

[ICEMAN_89]

i hope it is not againt any kind of regulations.....i mean no penalty!!!!!!!

team orders are not allowed, and that was obviously a team order

[Ste]

Ted says:

"Flurry of discussions, right from the last 10 laps onwards, talking on panels to each other. Now, nobody is talking to anybody. Rob has his arms folded. Stefano has his arms folded. Chris Dyer has his leg up on the bar, looking at the screen. Championship wise, Alonso would be on 123, Massa would be on 85"

[maho]

If it stays like this I would like to see the how Massa and also treat each other during the trophies.

[Kyss4k]

Oh dear. Can they get penalty for this? I am little worried now.

[ales]

No chance of a penalty

I wouldn't be so sure ... I thing Ferrari are playing with fire again and it's I feel that there's every chance the stewards will get involved.

[Greig]

team orders are not allowed, and that was obviously a team order

No it was not LOL

[Ste]

Dont like it but it did have to happen.

Sorry Felipe.

Totally agree. Massa is just too far back in the championship now. :-)

[thedoctor03]

THIS IS NOT WHY I SUPPORT FERRARI... its not fair.. its not! i thought they grew out of team orders

[boysband]

ferrari is right to make that decision.. martin was right.. the only driver ti win the WDC for ferrari this year will be FA

[SanderV]

i cant believe it is not good that would have been the first win of massa after the accident..............

Indeed. This is better for the championship but I really wanted Massa to win.

[gvsnraju85]

Can anybody confirm if this attarcts a penalty?????

[m schumy]

BBC F1 analyst David Coulthard: "I think it's quite clear that Rob Smedley did not want to give that message to his driver and I think it's unfair of team management to ask engineers to give that message to drivers."

[Katu]

they've got some explaining to do now

[Greig]

I wouldn't be so sure ... I thing Ferrari are playing with fire again and it's I feel that there's every chance the stewards will get involved.

Ferrari did not tell him to move, it's no different to the fuel saving messages all the rest give out, Jenson v Lewis at Turkey for instance, no penalty

[GamD]

sick absolutely sick

[Tifosi]

Disgraceful. Shameful.

[Ste]

Alonso has pulled away SO quickly now. He's 2.7s clear of Massa.

Vettel is now ONLY 2.6s behind Massa, rather than the 5s it was.

Encountering loads of traffic though, so that's why Massa has lost out.

[gvsnraju85]

Vettel faster than massa

[Greig]

Disgraceful. Shameful.

Not really, not much different to Massa moving for Kimi or Kimi for Massa.

[Marino]

I understand why, but it smells bad.....................

[Becool70]

As a team it was a good decision as a F1 fan, not good at all but we must think of the bigger picture here... Poor MAssa but the favour will be returned one day no doubt... What we didnt want guys is Alonso fighting Massa for the win.. ALO was quicker...

[maho]

Vettel is going to catch Massa and Alonso is a second quicker than Massa... just demoralised or problem?

[FFFerrari]

Team orders are forbidden and they are playing with fire, specially with Rob saying that "Sorry Felipe".

[Grinsomx]

if they can prove that message was a team order and i'm afraid they can, then we can expect a penalty and that would be a real shame

[Mirage]

Smart move for ferrari. Massa is off the pace this season so tell me why does he deserve to risk the team losing the wdc??

[vagos]

we are not getting a penalty!!! maclarens didnt get any!!!!

[Rookie]

Very disgusting indeed! Massa deserved this one and got stolen. I never thought that deep down Ferrari was still the team that did an austria back in the day. I feel very ashamed...:furious

[Tifosi]

As a team it was a good decision as a F1 fan, not good at all but we must think of the bigger picture here... Poor MAssa but the favour will be returned one day no doubt... What we didnt want guys is Alonso fighting Massa for the win.. ALO was quicker...

He wasn't going to win the race. Don't kid yourself.

[Ste]

Disgraceful. Shameful.

They've both driven amazingly, but I don't think the move was shameful - I didn't like it either mind you.

Kimi was asked to move over for Massa on occasions, same for Massa moving for Kimi. Massa just too far back in the championship now, Alonso still has a shot at it. It was the best decision to make imo. Doesn't take anything away from Felipe's drive at all. He will have been told before the race what the circumstance was.

[Shahid]

Team orders have been in F1 for years - in fact I'm pretty sure there were some with McLaren in the last few years. Because they weren't leading it might not have been so obvious but still.

[simetrije]

" Fernando is faster than you"...what a piece of sh...

[vagos]

2.7 secs difference from massa alonso........

[eriknaa]

I am just sorry, Felipe has driven a great race, after a great start he was pulling away and even though he struggled a bit on the hard he really did a good job comming back to fight.
Of course this is cause of the championship, but its tragic to see that this is happening just halfway into the season...
Felipe you really deserved this one
The real winner of hockenheim 2010: FELIPE MASSA

[ICEMAN_89]

perhap's but i don't like that kind of decisions, i mean come on let the drivers fight for it! if alonso is not fast enough to get past felipe then he should stay behind:P

[Becool70]

I hear words of disgreful, shameful? what going on here? we are winning guys and the team comes first remember not the driver!!!! the team need ALO to win this one PERIOD!!! Gaaaawd!!!!

[xpman]

THIS IS NOT WHY I SUPPORT FERRARI... its not fair.. its not! i thought they grew out of team orders

Ferrari are so Fing Stupid as is Too Fing Clrear is Team orders and Will be under investigation and Will be Disqualified as it can Be shown its TEAM ORDERS am so sorry I love Ferrari but A stupid Mistake .
Massa should let him through when over taken back markers !!!

[natural_051]

Disgraceful. Shameful.

we deserve ban! very shame, very... So obvious pass, I don't like it... Nice weekend spoiled by this :-(

[Agron]

He closed the door badly just to do this now...
At least Ferrari know what they want.

[Ste]

Stop moaning guys. Wouldn't you rather have the WDC and potentially the WCC than just the WCC?

Massa will have known before hand what the circumstances are, as would Alonso if the positions were reversed. It's not nice, but Massa doesn't have a shot at the WDC anymore, Alonso does.

[Suzie]

Smart move for ferrari. Massa is off the pace this season so tell me why does he deserve to risk the team losing the wdc??

HE WASN'T OFF THE PACE TODAY WAS HE.

[racingbradley]

Well let's hope when the situation could be reversed next week that Alonso will return the compliment.;-)

[vagos]

alonso FL now.............

[Greig]

Very disgusting indeed! Massa deserved this one and got stolen. I never thought that deep down Ferrari was still the team that did an austria back in the day. I feel very ashamed...:furious

How about Massa moving for Kimi at Brazil? disgusted? Kimi moving for Massa at China? disgusted?

[gvsnraju85]

Alonso fastest lap

[Driver]

Now that i call ridiculous.

[Ste]

Team orders have been in F1 for years - in fact I'm pretty sure there were some with McLaren in the last few years. Because they weren't leading it might not have been so obvious but still.

Many times with Hamilton and Kovalainen. Hockenheim and Silverstone 2008 to name just 2 instances. :-)

[Suzie]

Stop moaning guys. Wouldn't you rather have the WDC and potentially the WCC than just the WCC?

Massa will have known before hand what the circumstances are, as would Alonso if the positions were reversed. It's not nice, but Massa doesn't have a shot at the WDC anymore, Alonso does.

I couldn't give 2 hoots right now to be honest.

[vagos]

i want to see the press confference now...............

[Shahid]

I bet the media try and turn this into another Austria :-S

[Becool70]

perhap's but i don't like that kind of decisions, i mean come on let the drivers fight for it! if alonso is not fast enough to get past felipe then he should stay behind:P

Alonso was quicker but if they race each other they consume more fuel and then they both walk to the garage... what ferrari have done here is the smartess thing this year, why race each other? team first guys!!

[Aussie]

Not really, not much different to Massa moving for Kimi or Kimi for Massa.

very true brazil 07

i never heard of people complaining then

[gvsnraju85]

I am now off wit this.....any other team and we would have be shouting our throats horse for a penalty and now it is us.................................:-(:-s:furious

[ferrari4life]

Good job massa no shame in coming 2nd here. we know you were the better driver and you are no also a great team player...forza massa forza ferrari.. on towards a 1-2

[Greig]

Massa needs to get a move on now :-)

[GamD]

If Massa was so slow, Alonso would of just passed him with out any problem. It's about the " message " not the pass.

[arunkshrestha]

Stop moaning guys. Wouldn't you rather have the WDC and potentially the WCC than just the WCC?

Massa will have known before hand what the circumstances are, as would Alonso if the positions were reversed. It's not nice, but Massa doesn't have a shot at the WDC anymore, Alonso does.

Is Massa mathematically out of the WDC challenge? All the other examples were of team orders late in the season where the 2nd driver was already out.

[maho]

Massa needs to pick up some pace or hes going to end up 3rd.

[Greig]

If Massa was so slow, Alonso would of just passed him with out any problem. It's about the " message " not the pass.

Looks the right thing to do now, Vettel would have been on the back of Alonso

[Ste]

I couldn't give 2 hoots right now to be honest.

No, it's not nice I know. I cringed when I heard the message.

But I know when I look back on the race and the decision, I'll think it was the right call. So will Felipe - he's a team player. He knows how the system works. He will get a return if he is leading Alonso in the future in the championship.

[Greig]

Is Massa mathematically out of the WDC challenge? All the other examples were of team orders late in the season where the 2nd driver was already out.

Your McLaren boys were at it in Turkey, so what you say now :-)

[Greig]

Vettel gonna pass Massa :-(

[dfunk257]

Cmon guys are you serious? Do you want Massa to win this race or Alonso to win this championship? If Massa was closer to Slonso in the points then I would understand ure argument, but it is clear to me that it is Alonso that needs to win this race cause he is the 1 who will fight for Ferraris championship. I'm sorry for Massa fans but Ferrari have had this mentality for years, so why all this whinging about it? Championship comes first, and the press and others can say what they want but Ferrari have done the right thing here.

[Ste]

Massa is going to have Vettel on his gearbox if he doesn't step on it.

If we hadn't have made that call, both of our drivers would be under pressure.

Traffic for Massa is appauling though, lost so much time.

[maho]

Is Massa mathematically out of the WDC challenge? All the other examples were of team orders late in the season where the 2nd driver was already out.

Mathematically Massa is still in with a shot but given so many potential winners such as Hamilton, button, Webber, Vettel and Alonso, Massa has no chance because its not like they cann all get a few DNF's for Massa to catch up.