Bahrain testing 19-22 Feb

[mizf1]

Now is a good time time to start pushing the performance of our car. At least if it breaks now we don't lose the whole day, only wished we had done a few more laps in the morning

[Schumyboy83]

RB10 more makeshift cooling solutions, Newey just sacrifice the aero for some shakedown mileage. - via Matt Somerfield @SomersF1

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo343/schumiboy83/RB.jpg (http://s390.photobucket.com/user/schumiboy83/media/RB.jpg.html)

[Ste]

More cooling 'bits' added to the RBR.

http://i57.tinypic.com/296cdj.png

[Kiwi Nick]

It's positioned at the outermost point accepted in the regulations.

Maybe they just put in in crooked.

[Ste]

Here's a video of the oil over-fill on the F14-T this morning.

Easy to see the angle of the exhaust gases from this!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irvFHwRRb0U

[Ste]

Current times/laps

http://i59.tinypic.com/15plwus.png

[mizf1]

Marussia is out now so more Ferrari engine mileage

[tifosi1993]

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1419fe324.jpg

[Kiwi Nick]

[QUOTE=Domo-kun;825943]Nothing new, he does that:

http://youtu.be/b2WKdmbVmG0?t=7m5s

I love the part about 7 minutes in, where Kimi says, "Can you believe they let me do this?"

[Senna4Ever]

Everyone was saying how quick the Mercedes was this morning when Hamilton was on a 1m39. Then Hulkenberg came out and went 2 seconds quicker. Just shows that times mean nothing.

:thumb

[Ste]

http://i60.tinypic.com/23s94b6.jpg

[Schumyboy83]

http://i60.tinypic.com/23s94b6.jpg

LOL, very good...

[mizf1]

Finally ALO is out

[Ste]

Final times for the day

http://i60.tinypic.com/15dxqus.png

[ntukza]

A rather uneventful day for us. Nothing to write home about.

[Senna4Ever]

Final times for the day

http://i60.tinypic.com/15dxqus.png

64 laps not bad but I would feel a bit more comfortable if we would have been on the same level (in terms of laps) like Sauber or McLaren ...
Good sign thou that Sutil made 81 laps with a Ferrari powered car ... :clap

any information about the problems at Williams and Marussia?
Especially the Williams performed so well at Jerez ...

and once again I appreciate to be in the audience when Vettel's twine breaks and all his former "I love you guys" forgotten from one to the other second ..

[Ste]

64 laps not bad but I would feel a bit more comfortable if we would have been on the same level (in terms of laps) like Sauber or McLaren ...
Good sign thou that Sutil made 81 laps with a Ferrari powered car ... :clap

any information about the problems at Williams and Marussia?
Especially the Williams performed so well at Jerez ...

and once again I appreciate to be in the audience when Vettel's twine breaks and all his former "I love you guys" forgotten from one to the other second ..
82 :-D

Williams had a problem with the fuel system.

[Kingdom Hearts]

Good day I guess.

[Winter]

Not much smarter after today. Good thing is that there were no major problems and we got decent amount of laps.

I'm little worried about those Merc powered teams, especially McLaren and Mercedes, they seem to be quite strong atm.

[Kiwi Nick]

If Ferrari were able to complete their program while running 64 laps, all is good. It is better to complete your program, regardless the number of laps, than to run the most laps and not complete the day's program.

[Alessandra]

"Fernando Alonso finally breaks the Mercedes hegemony at the top of the time sheets with a lap to put him second behind the soft-tyred Force India of Nico Hulkenberg. It's becoming clear that Mercedes and McLaren are both in very good shape but insiders find it difficult to read the Ferrari. The team have not done any long runs yet - and by this stage you would think they would if they could - but the car keeps on popping up close to or at the very top of the time sheets. And it clearly has a very small cooling requirement compared to, say, the Renault. Could this be the year Maranello finally gets it right again?"
Andrew Benson BBC

I know it's not anything conclusive, but cheers me up. I hadn't realised Hulk was on softs. I suppose Fer wasn't? That would be good, no?

[Winter]

Maybe Ferrari are confident enough about the engine after testing it with LaFerrari and now focusing more to aero stuff.

[ntukza]

Did Ferrari complete their program?

[ntukza]

Maybe Ferrari are confident enough about the engine after testing it with LaFerrari and now focusing more to aero stuff.

Wouldn't our times be faster then if we've moved on to the aero? I agree about Ferrari being confident of our engine, I just can't get what we're doing.

[Hornet]

Did Ferrari complete their program?

Saw this on twitter

End of test. Good first day. Learning curve exponential! Thanks @alo_oficial

Not sure what they really meant by learning curve exponential, but sounds like everything went well.

[Samcar222]

Learning more and more each day I hope? Early confidence within the team is encouraging.
Also, hi everyone, I've been lurking for the past weeks :) Greetings from the USA!

[Hornet]

Welcome aboard :wave

[Winter]

Wouldn't our times be faster then if we've moved on to the aero? I agree about Ferrari being confident of our engine, I just can't get what we're doing.

Not sure, but todays fastest time was done with softs and we were right behind that. Hopefully we see more pure time laps tomorrow

[anuragiyer8989]

What tyres did Alo have for that fast lap? The last pic on twitter when car is being brought in shows Orange Hards!

[varun]

Hulk set his fastest time on softs,but what tyre did we set it on?

P.S:Sorry if has been asked already

[stefa]

I was away from the office whole day, just read news regarding todays test. So we are good? :-)

[shamim179]

Does anyone know what tyres were on the McLaren and Mercedes when they posted their fastest times?

[tifosi1993]

http://i.imgur.com/7jQHRok.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HZZhzFM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GC2uQUO.jpg

[Kyss4k]

Was hoping to see a lot of new stuff on our car, after all that was said (new wings, new bodywork,...). Well, it's the same every year I guess. Hopefully what we have will be enough.

[Rob]

Was hoping to see a lot of new stuff on our car, after all that was said (new wings, new bodywork,...). Well, it's the same every year I guess. Hopefully what we have will be enough.

may see some bits soon ;-)

[Kyss4k]

may see some bits soon ;-)

That's what I'm talking about. It's always about to come. But it rarely comes. Oh my negativity...

[stefa]

Was hoping to see a lot of new stuff on our car, after all that was said (new wings, new bodywork,...). Well, it's the same every year I guess. Hopefully what we have will be enough.

That is why I don't take those kind of rumors serious at all, until I see them!!!!

[Hornet]

First day of testing in Bahrain

Circuit: Sakhir – 5.412 km
Driver: Fernando Alonso
Car: Ferrari F14 T
Weather: air temperature 19/25°C, track temperature 20/30 °C. Sunny.
Laps/Kms completed: 64/346
Best time: 1:37.879

First day of testing for Scuderia Ferrari and the ten other Formula 1 teams, working from today to Saturday at Bahrain’s Sakhir Circuit.

The second test session of the year got underway with Fernando Alonso back behind the wheel of the F14 T number 14 car. The team resumed the programme it began in Jerez two weeks ago, working on further checking of all aspects of the new power unit systems and some aerodynamic testing. Today, particular attention was paid to fine tuning the new brake by wire system, to optimise the balance of the car.

This first day went off without encountering any unexpected difficulties and Fernando was able to complete a total of 64 laps, the quickest in a time of 1:37.879.

“It’s nice to be driving again, especially when you have more reference points compared to the previous time, which means you get a better feeling for the car” – said Fernando to www.ferrari.com – “We are also at a track that is more representative, with normal temperatures, where it’s been easier to understand tyre behaviour. We are in a phase where we are discovering things and with every lap, we learn something new. For everyone, there is still a lot to do to be well prepared for Melbourne, so it will be important to make the most of every day we have available to us.”

Testing continues at this circuit tomorrow, again with Fernando Alonso on track.


http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/day-testing-bahrain

[mark p]

Ferrari have likely an extra element in their test matrix. Correlation. Others can be confident on this and focus on other areas. No doubt Ferrari are focused on all areas but have to ensure correlation as if small issues they must pick it up as early as possible otherwise all development plans would go out the window and time wasted. I beleive they have a more simple aero solution at the moment as it makes it easier to check and once confident will add new packages ie wings etc. To not do this work risks building a house on sand. This is how it appears to me and i am content so far.

[chandran2313]

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dcd1419fe46.jpg


i found this funny thing on the internet.........


So what's the name of this chassis Sebby? Here are choices to work with:
- Pisser Pete
- Deadwood Dolly
- Fiery Fuschia
- Hot Tempered Helen
-Queasy Quintelle

Or my favourite:
- Abysmal Aorchie

[wisepie]

A positive day it seems, too early to get too excited but those Merc-powered cars seem quick and reliable, maybe they'll continue to have tyre woes when the racing starts, so we're looking promising. Can't say more.:thumb

[Ste]

Apparently Vettel's problem today was due to a breaking issue, related to overheating. Their issues from Jerez are supposedly fixed and now they have new ones.

[Jas]

Hamilton has said that the engine was turned down today but they will work on performance from now on so lets keep a keen eye on them!

[Ste]

Hamilton has said that the engine was turned down today but they will work on performance from now on so lets keep a keen eye on them!
Same for everyone, I'm sure. In terms of the engines being turned down at least.

[Nero Horse]

So another good day of testing for us. Good amount of laps completed and lots of valuable data collected, excellent. Keep it up boys! :thumb

[hrc5555]

Was hoping to see a lot of new stuff on our car, after all that was said (new wings, new bodywork,...). Well, it's the same every year I guess. Hopefully what we have will be enough.

I didnt read anywhere that Ferrari said new parts will come on first Bahrain test. It makes sense if they come next week.
On the other side, we still have 3 days of first Bahrain test. :-)

[Tony]

Ferrari have likely an extra element in their test matrix. Correlation. Others can be confident on this and focus on other areas. No doubt Ferrari are focused on all areas but have to ensure correlation as if small issues they must pick it up as early as possible otherwise all development plans would go out the window and time wasted. I beleive they have a more simple aero solution at the moment as it makes it easier to check and once confident will add new packages ie wings etc. To not do this work risks building a house on sand. This is how it appears to me and i am content so far.

I understand what you're saying and I agree, but I'm wondering, wouldn't base components be easier to correlate to the wind-tunnel than more complex ones?

[f1tomi8]

"The final updates for the Australian Grand Prix will arrive at the next test here in Bahrain and that’s when we will also start trying to get the performance out of the car." - See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/resta-were-discovering-f14-t#sthash.EEnwKjG1.dpuf

[Tifoso]

How do we look, amici?

[Rob]

How do we look, amici?

non male mio amico. Just alot of data collecting.

[Ste]

How do we look, amici?
http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/showthread.php/31736-F14-T-Development-amp-News?p=826092#post826092

That post from Rob in the Development thread should say everything you need to know. :-)

[Nero Horse]

How do we look, amici?

Looking good and solid. It was another fruitful day at the track. :-)

[mark p]

I understand what you're saying and I agree, but I'm wondering, wouldn't base components be easier to correlate to the wind-tunnel than more complex ones?

Yeah. To ensure real life correlates they use 1st iteration parts rather than fabricate complex ones that are a few stages on as if these complex parts did not work more time would be wasted. I qouldnt be surprised if they add ever more complex parts after ensuring they correlate at each stage they are added. They need detail of every part in a more thorough manner than the past as laat year started great it was 6 races and 3 months into last season post Monaco where it came out things were not right.

[Ferris]

I understand what you're saying and I agree, but I'm wondering, wouldn't base components be easier to correlate to the wind-tunnel than more complex ones?

You must first learn to pass a ball before you learn how to shoot for goal.

That is all that is happening here, it is easier to check correlation and issues with simple aero and then keep checking as the aero gets more complex to determine if correlation continues.

The good thing is that they can still test many other area's of the car while checking the correlation but yes it would be better if we didn't have this problem to check to begin with.

[Tifoso]

Looking good and solid. It was another fruitful day at the track. :-)

Excellent! Grazie. :wine

[radosav]

This car looks good.5726

[PadGeT]

This car looks good.5726
A faster car will look better!! ;-)

[vcs316]

Alonso: Bahrain a better marker

Fernando Alonso admits he is developing a growing understanding of this year's car after a successful opening day in Bahrain.

Alonso enjoyed a solid run on Monday, posting 64 laps with only one engine problem throughout, on a day when the team was paying close attention to the F14T's break wire system. His time of 1:37.879 left Alonso top of the timing sheets and he admits the conditions in Sakhir make for a better testing environment than Jerez, which helped the team develop a better knowledge of the car.

"It's nice to be driving again, especially when you have more reference points compared to the previous time, which means you get a better feeling for the car," Alonso said. "We are also at a track that is more representative, with normal temperatures, where it's been easier to understand tyre behaviour."

"We are in a phase where we are discovering things and with every lap, we learn something new. For everyone, there is still a lot to do to be well prepared for Melbourne, so it will be important to make the most of every day we have available to us."

© ESPN Sports Media Ltd.

[tifosi1993]

Rosberg stopped on track...Red Flag.

[emirBoz]

BEN ANDERSON spoke to Ferrari's deputy chief designer Simone Resta about the pressures of making the cars reliable, particularly in terms of heat management.

"It is fair to say I don’t have any real information to judge whether we are compared with the others," he said. "I know that we have invested quite a lot on the front compared to last year knowing that the challenge is more, so we just focused all our effort and tried to improve compared to before."

"I think [yesterday was] a very good day, miles on the track, with long-ish runs, adapting the driver to the car and vice versa, good day of testing, good first day of testing. No major issues, nothing major to report."

[medeni73]

Tobias Grüner F1 @tgruener

Looks like Red Bull will be late again - at least 1 hour delay till first run. New parts arriving.

[PadGeT]

Any developments on our side of the garage, guyz?

[medeni73]

It wont be any visible ones cos aerodynamic parts are coming for a second test in Bahrain...

[PadGeT]

It wont be any visible ones cos aerodynamic parts are coming for a second test in Bahrain...
On dat note it baffles me sometimes that we haven't yet seen our aero recruits namely Agathangelou, Biogis, De beer or Martin Bester in pitwall

[bluesilhouettes]

They're working their ass off. :lol

[Senna4Ever]

Looking good and solid. It was another fruitful day at the track. :-)

I guess the german media use the same source but also on german's motorsport-total.com they brought a interview with Simone Resta where he also told that this week is more a "learn about the car and the behaviour". Especially he mentioned "Brake by wire" which need to be discovered by the team and especially the drivers ...

So I don't expect to be on top of the list ...

Hopefully one week will be enough to explore the real speed of the car ...

Edit(h) says:

" I think it is still too early to say how pleased we are. , We learn still added when it comes to how the F14 T behaves in different situations ," says Ferraris deputy chief designer Simone Resta and emphasizes: " We're just trying to collect as much data as possible . "
In particular, focus at Ferrari until Saturday this week , the electronic brake pedal ( brake-by -wire ) and the electronics. " Both areas we have during the past two weeks devoted considerable attention ," notes Resta. So the tests are intended to give this week mainly provides an indication of how well harmonizes the new powertrain in conjunction with the elements Brake -by-wire and electronic with the drivers Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen .

The chassis performance one wants to devote the second Bahrain test ( February 27-March 2 ) . "This will be the next step .. At the moment we just want to unwind kilometers ," Resta formulated the approach to the coming days and announces : . " Last Updates for the Grand Prix of Australia will arrive on the next Bahrain Test Only then we will deal with it , to go the performance of the car on the ground. "

[sreenivaschinne]

Vettel on track!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pray:pray

[sreenivaschinne]

http://www.f1today.net/en/live/2014/02/20/sakhir

[medeni73]

AMuS: RB comes back in pits smoking...

[medeni73]

Mercedes stoppage earlier due engine problems... :)

[anialonso]

Alonso goes out..!!!

[anialonso]

and he Pits..

[alonso888]

where do you watch the tests ?

[anialonso]

http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/697
http://www.f1today.net/en/live/2014/02/20/sakhir
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/26263232

[anialonso]

If Ferrari are targeting mileage then they shd have been out by now..
Does anyone know whats going on..
:pray

[alonso888]

TY :-D

[f1tomi8]

Alonso's first timed lap of the day also makes him the first person to dip under 1m38s this morning. That puts him fastest.
1:37.857

[SinanOzerS]

Alonso's first timed lap of the day also makes him the first person to dip under 1m38s this morning. That puts him fastest.
1:37.657

1:37:857

[mirafiori]

Alonso Now 137.700

[Winter]

137.700s ups

[f1tomi8]

1:37:857

Yeah! sorry :D

[f1tomi8]

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Fernando-Alonso-Ferrari-Formel-1-Test-Bahrain-20-Februar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-986214d7-756343.jpghttp://img4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Fernando-Alonso-Ferrari-Formel-1-Test-Bahrain-20-Februar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-c47a921c-756381.jpghttp://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Fernando-Alonso-Ferrari-Formel-1-Test-Bahrain-20-Februar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-df9fdb2a-756351.jpg

[Hornet]

Good to see some nice lap times and more aero work going on :pass

[mirafiori]

Red Bull must be in real trouble, again spending most of the time in the Box, when the Red Bull has done a lap or two and returns to the pit, mechanics are waiting with fire extinguishers.

[Majki2111]

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Fernando-Alonso-Ferrari-Formel-1-Test-Bahrain-20-Februar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-986214d7-756343.jpg
The nose remindes me on a flower. Specially tith those two black parts just below the number 14.
Sorry for bad English, I'm from Croatia.

[Domo-kun]

Red Bull must be in real trouble, again spending most of the time in the Box, when the Red Bull has done a lap or two and returns to the pit, mechanics are waiting with fire extinguishers.

Toro Rosso, on the other hand, has massed 32 laps already..
So .. it could be that they have sorted the biggest problems for now...

Why can't it be March and Australian GP already!! :D

[Majki2111]

08:15 After two sectors on his latest lap Alonso is well on course to set a new fastest time for the day. So what does he do? He pits...
:-D;-):roll

[Rishu]

Toro Rosso, on the other hand, has massed 32 laps already..
So .. it could be that they have sorted the biggest problems already...

Why can't it be March and Australian GP already!! :D

They will be massively on backfoot anyway. While other teams are racking up miles, learning the car, fine tuning it, finding areas to develop. RB are trying make the car work for the entire race distance. Their in season development is second to none but it's true that a car born bad is hard to develop into a winning contender.

[anakin]

08:15 After two sectors on his latest lap Alonso is well on course to set a new fastest time for the day. So what does he do? He pits...
:-D;-):roll

what are they thinking????????????
:Hmm

[SinanOzerS]

what are they thinking????????????
:Hmm

Sandbaggin maybe ?

[medeni73]

they dont care for lap times as it isnt priority untill last test days

[zike]

Mates, where can I see the numbers of laps?

[PadGeT]

Any idea why the rear of our car was covered from prying eyes in the pitlane dis morning? new diffuser or wat? :Hmm

[anakin]

Sandbaggin maybe ?

you improve on your 1st two sectors then suddenly abort it. funny.

[f1tomi8]

Any idea why the rear of our car was covered from prying eyes in the pitlane dis morning? new diffuser or wat? :Hmm
Nothing new diffuser. Just aerodynamic measurements.

[diesel08]

08:15 After two sectors on his latest lap Alonso is well on course to set a new fastest time for the day. So what does he do? He pits...

:-)

[mizf1]

Mates, where can I see the numbers of laps?

http://www.f1today.net/en/live-update

[Avantifer12]

Any idea why the rear of our car was covered from prying eyes in the pitlane dis morning? new diffuser or wat? :Hmm

Not sure if it's new, if it is we will know soon but teams do this to make it more difficult for the photographers to take high quality shots but also to protect the mechanics from the extreme heat exiting from the back of the car.

[mirafiori]

you improve on your 1st two sectors then suddenly abort it. funny.

The team would still be able to calculate that lap time to within a tenth, as others have said team not looking to show off.

[medeni73]

looks like race sim for Alonso...

From the pitlane EDD STRAW has more detail on Alonso's 'slow' laps at the moment, and hints that it could be the makings of a serious part of any team's pre-season test programme:

"Alonso drives through the pits. Proper practice start with tyre warm-up wheel spins - the full procedure.

"Watch out for a long run from this. The team are not expecting him back, so this can't be far from a race sim from them."

[Majki2111]

08:38 From the pitlane EDD STRAW has more detail on Alonso's 'slow' laps at the moment, and hints that it could be the makings of a serious part of any team's pre-season test programme:

"Alonso drives through the pits. Proper practice start with tyre warm-up wheel spins - the full procedure.

"Watch out for a long run from this. The team are not expecting him back, so this can't be far from a race sim from them."

[Rosso Corsa]

Oooooh excited :-D Go forth F14T. Go forth and layeth down a race distance.

[mizf1]

http://www.f1today.net/en/live-update shows alonso is in the pits?

[Schumyboy83]

As Alonso returns to the pits and does some more burnouts in front of Straw, things have quietened down on track. Vergne - now up to 43 laps for Toro Rosso, is the only man going round at the moment. :Hmm

[anakin]

can someone monitor fernando's lap time in this expected sace sim. thanks

[Majki2111]

Ferrari notes on Twitter that the wind is interfering with its programme a bit at the moment.

[Schumyboy83]

Ferrari notes on Twitter that the wind is interfering with its programme a bit at the moment.

[Hornet]

you improve on your 1st two sectors then suddenly abort it. funny.

It's just so happens that was the in lap. I don't see what's the big deal anyway

[f1tomi8]

Ferrari continue to go about their business in a quiet and understated fashion. There was aerodynamic work on Wednesday, as well as tuning of the braking system but, in the middle of it all, there was Fernando Alonso popping up second fastest, and that was no one-off low-fuel run either. The Spaniard said nothing of consequence on the team press release, but Ferrari themselves were moved to describe it as a 'good day'. The double champion continues his work on Thursday."08:53:

Andrew Benson

[anialonso]

Andrew Benson
"Ferrari continue to go about their business in a quiet and understated fashion. There was aerodynamic work on Wednesday, as well as tuning of the braking system but, in the middle of it all, there was Fernando Alonso popping up second fastest, and that was no one-off low-fuel run either. The Spaniard said nothing of consequence on the team press release, but Ferrari themselves were moved to describe it as a 'good day'. The double champion continues his work on Thursday."
:clap:clap:clap

[PadGeT]

Ferrari continue to go about their business in a quiet and understated fashion. There was aerodynamic work on Wednesday, as well as tuning of the braking system but, in the middle of it all, there was Fernando Alonso popping up second fastest, and that was no one-off low-fuel run either. The Spaniard said nothing of consequence on the team press release, but Ferrari themselves were moved to describe it as a 'good day'. The double champion continues his work on Thursday."08:53:

Andrew Benson
:clap :thumb

[Majki2111]

But I think AMuS says that he set the time on mediums, Hamilton on hards. Hulkemberg says that difference betweeen each tyre is about 1 second. So...

[f1tomi8]

Andrew Benson, Chief F1 writer
Yesterday's laptime comparison:

"I've been taking a closer look at the lap times from the first day's running. Nico Hulkenberg was fastest in the Force India, but that was on soft tyres and a short three-lap run, which suggests low-ish fuel. Fernando Alonso's Ferrari, meanwhile, set its fastest time on an eight-lap run on slower medium tyres, which means that while he did a 1:37.879, the car was capable of doing at least a 37.683, once the weight of fuel was taken into account. And of course there was quite probably more fuel in it than that. Lewis Hamilton set his best time in the Mercedes on an 18-lap run on hard tyres, which takes his fastest time of 1:37.908 down to at least a 1:37.432."

[anialonso]

"I've been taking a closer look at the lap times from the first day's running. Nico Hulkenberg was fastest in the Force India, but that was on soft tyres and a short three-lap run, which suggests low-ish fuel. Fernando Alonso's Ferrari, meanwhile, set its fastest time on an eight-lap run on slower medium tyres, which means that while he did a 1:37.879, the car was capable of doing at least a 37.683, once the weight of fuel was taken into account. And of course there was quite probably more fuel in it than that. Lewis Hamilton set his best time in the Mercedes on an 18-lap run on hard tyres, which takes his fastest time of 1:37.908 down to at least a 1:37.432."

Yesterday's laptime comparison

[Majki2111]

So nothing to cheer for.

[f1tomi8]

Yesterday's laptime comparison
Yes!

[anakin]

Yesterday's laptime comparison

we are in good shape. :clap

[Rob]

you improve on your 1st two sectors then suddenly abort it. funny.

Nothing funny, maybe got some info for the first couple sectors then pit. Or, Fernando ran wide, or wind effected him somehow. Isnt about blazing lap times atmo.;-)

[Majki2111]

we are in good shape. :clapWe are not the fastest so nothin to cheer for.

[SinanOzerS]

Nando is out on track.

[anialonso]

and out comes Fernando.!!!

[medeni73]

red flag...

[anialonso]

A race sim wud make my day.>!!
:thumb

[Hornet]

We are not the fastest so nothin to cheer for.

We don't have to be the fastest at this point. We just need to be able to set fast time without burning something in the car. At this stage, it's all still about reliability, and how far you can push without breaking the car's reliability.

So far our reliability has been good, and we do have some performance which we can show, I would say everything is going well at the moment.

[anialonso]

Vettel has made it back to the pits. So it appears that Mercedes has caused the stoppage again, just as was the case when its first outlap of the day lasted eight corners this morning.

thats nice to hear..

Edit:09:20 The Mercedes is back in the pits.

[f1tomi8]

Williams confirms that its 2014 livery will be unveiled on March 6

[Majki2111]

We don't have to be the fastest at this point. We just need to be able to set fast time without burning something in the car. At this stage, it's all still about reliability, and how far you can push without breaking the car's reliability.

So far our reliability has been good, and we do have some performance which we can show, I would say everything is going well at the moment.
You wanna say that it is still possible to come as the fastest in Malbourne? It is hard to belive.

[f1tomi8]

Rosberg was in the early stage of a race simulation when he was hit by tech trouble.

[anakin]

You wanna say that it is still possible to come as the fastest in Malbourne? It is hard to belive.
no one really knows who is the fastest as of the moment. so the one that will be the fastest in melbourne would still be UNKNOWN.
what ferrari was doing is solidify its reliability. while still setting competitive lap times.

[Katu]

You wanna say that it is still possible to come as the fastest in Malbourne? It is hard to belive.

if you mean by being fastest who finishes the race with shortest time, then that could be us, if others fail..

[F2002]

I'm personally not enjoying seeing our main competitors stop on track with technical problems.

Let's win with everybody on board, otherwise it will be obvious that the sole cause of us winning a world championship (if we ever do) will be this rule change, and other teams' misfortunes.

[gazoz]

I'm personally not enjoying seeing our main competitors stop on track with technical problems.

Let's win with everybody on board, otherwise it will be obvious that the sole cause of us winning a world championship (if we ever do) will be this rule change, and other teams' misfortunes.

well it was the rule changes that helped RB and MC start winning again

[SinanOzerS]

Here we go again.And the red flag once again, this time Vergne for TR.

[f1tomi8]

09:45 Another red flag brings a halt to proceedings. Alonso, Vettel and Vergne on-track...09:45 Alonso back in, so it's either the Red Bull or the Toro Rosso to blame.

[fronaldo]

Red flag again..Alonso back to pit.. Red Bull or the Toro Rosso to blame

[evo_spook]

I'm personally not enjoying seeing our main competitors stop on track with technical problems.

Let's win with everybody on board, otherwise it will be obvious that the sole cause of us winning a world championship (if we ever do) will be this rule change, and other teams' misfortunes.


You've got to consider though, that while teams like Redbull are having issue, they have to spend time fixing them rather then working on performance.

Come the 1st race they might then be reliable but they will be a few weeks behind on performance upgrades.

[anialonso]

Damn it..
Every time Nando goes out..Red flag pops up..

[fronaldo]

Heard that Alonso will run race sim..not so sure

[OSS EL BOSS]

I'm personally not enjoying seeing our main competitors stop on track with technical problems.

Let's win with everybody on board, otherwise it will be obvious that the sole cause of us winning a world championship (if we ever do) will be this rule change, and other teams' misfortunes.

I wouldn't mind at all! ;-)
Technical problems are not misfortune though! If you have technical problems it would mean you have not done a good enough job.

[Hornet]

You wanna say that it is still possible to come as the fastest in Malbourne? It is hard to belive.

Well, no one knows at the moment who will be fastest in terms of pure pace. We do not know because right now, we are not testing our performance yet. As Alonso said yesterday, he is still learning new things with each lap.

Also do note that Ferrari have yet to put their monkey seat on. Just goes to show that at the moment, we are not concern about the car's maximum performance yet.

[SinanOzerS]

"Third red flag of the day, waiting to get back on track... #F14T (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23F14T&src=hash) @alo_oficial (https://twitter.com/alo_oficial)"

[f1tomi8]

"Third red flag of the day, waiting to get back on track... #F14T (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23F14T&src=hash) @alo_oficial (https://twitter.com/alo_oficial)"

out!

[Stormsearcher]

You've got to consider though, that while teams like Redbull are having issue, they have to spend time fixing them rather then working on performance.

Come the 1st race they might then be reliable but they will be a few weeks behind on performance upgrades.

True. But once they get around their problems, we all know the pace of their in-season development.
We need to take as many points away from them before they get their head round the issues they are facing currently.

[Senna4Ever]

I'm personally not enjoying seeing our main competitors stop on track with technical problems.
Let's win with everybody on board, otherwise it will be obvious that the sole cause of us winning a world championship (if we ever do) will be this rule change, and other teams' misfortunes.

I wouldn't enjoy a little bit if it wouldn't hit Marko and Vettel ...

Afterall your theory would say also last 4 championships of Vettel aren't worth because:
- Ferrari or any other team wasn't able to develop over the whole season
- Ferrari or any other team wasn't able to understand blown diffuser and all the little tricky areo parts.
- Ferrari or any other team wasn't able to really challenge RBulls ...

how often we blamed our guys at home not to deliver a proper fast car ...

Every of the big teams where used to began at 0: areo + engine - while the other 4 years the rules were the same and mainly aero driven ...

And for now it looks like somehow some did better than other ... as it needed a wholistic approach to design the car ...

[tifosi1993]

http://i.imgur.com/XBNBzwq.jpg

[anialonso]

10:02 Alonso's Ferrari joins the Caterham on-track. NOW will we see that race run we've been expecting?

[RedPassion]

True. But once they get around their problems, we all know the pace of their in-season development.
We need to take as many points away from them before they get their head round the issues they are facing currently.
But we dont know our development pace trough the year now that our wind tunnel is working,the technical structure has been furterly ajusted and that we have James Allison on board leading the development department.And yeah,as Pat Fry as already said,in F1 you make your own luck concerning reliability,if you worked good through the winter than probably you wont have any"bad luck" through the season:-)

[fronaldo]

Fernando Alonso is lapping in the 1:43s, suggesting the Ferrari could be embarking on a longer run.

[piglett]

Are there any vids available?

[anialonso]

Are there any vids available?
sadly no..

[f1tomi8]

only Alonso on the circuit... Push Push! :)

[tifosi1993]

Fernando doing longer run, which means we are confident with our reliability.

[F2002]

well it was the rule changes that helped RB and MC start winning again

Two wrongs don't make a right mate.


You've got to consider though, that while teams like Redbull are having issue, they have to spend time fixing them rather then working on performance.

Come the 1st race they might then be reliable but they will be a few weeks behind on performance upgrades.

Agreed. I'm only saying that it would be nice to beat them when they are at their best.


I wouldn't enjoy a little bit if it wouldn't hit Marko and Vettel ...

Afterall your theory would say also last 4 championships of Vettel aren't worth because:
- Ferrari or any other team wasn't able to develop over the whole season
- Ferrari or any other team wasn't able to understand blown diffuser and all the little tricky areo parts.
- Ferrari or any other team wasn't able to really challenge RBulls ...

how often we blamed our guys at home not to deliver a proper fast car ...

Every of the big teams where used to began at 0: areo + engine - while the other 4 years the rules were the same and mainly aero driven ...

And for now it looks like somehow some did better than other ... as it needed a wholistic approach to design the car ...

I believe that many of us have misunderstood the new rule changes to mean that aerodynamics are not important any more. In reality, aerodynamics continue to play a very important role, as will the tyres, and whoever had the edge in this domain previously, will continue enjoying an advantage.

RBR won the championships not because Ferrari had an unreliable engine that was breaking every other race, but because they simply did a better job overall.

[anialonso]

Fernando doing longer run, which means we are confident with our reliability.

only when he completes his longer run without any issue will allow the team to gain confidence in reliability

[Majki2111]

10:29 Alonso has lodged a couple of very slow laps. A 2m11.413s and a 2m03.277s. Presumably nothing wrong as he's stayed out, but part of the programme.
10:33 Gutierrez pits in as Alonso continues to circulate at well over two minutes a lap.
By SkyNews:A sequence of very slow laps for Alonso in recent minutes - over two minutes apiece - according to the timing screens, suggesting Ferrari are assessing/testing something very specific on the F14 T.

[Jose Lorca]

10:29 Alonso has lodged a couple of very slow laps. A 2m11.413s and a 2m03.277s. Presumably nothing wrong as he's stayed out, but part of the programme.

Safety car simulation most likely.

Really impressive pace from Alonso - only a second slower than 2013 race pace.

[Kyss4k]

RBR won the championships not because Ferrari had an unreliable engine that was breaking every other race, but because they simply did a better job overall.

Bad engine or bad aero... both mean, that someone has not done a good job. It doesn't matter which part of the car is bad. As you say, what counts is the whole package.

I am not sorry for them at all. They were not sorry for us either.

[tifosi1993]

OT, Bernie Ecclestone has won his court case!

[Rishu]

OT, Bernie Ecclestone has won his court case!

Damn

[F2002]

Bad engine or bad aero... both mean, that someone has not done a good job. It doesn't matter which part of the car is bad. As you say, what counts is the whole package.

I am not sorry for them at all. They were not sorry for us either.

I only said that I'm "not enjoying" seeing them break, but I certainly don't feel sorry for them either ;-)

[RedPassion]

Bad engine or bad aero... both mean, that someone has not done a good job. It doesn't matter which part of the car is bad. As you say, what counts is the whole package.

I am not sorry for them at all. They were not sorry for us either.
Agree,the whole package will do,but in all honesty we must say that unless we rise to the level of aerodynamics of RBR when the end of the season comes we will loose the WCC and WDC anyway.Aerodynamics is still the most important feature in the cars performance as Allison said,and when the teams will have sorted the most reliability concerns(by half of the season i imagine),the it will come most to aero again,so unless we raise our performance we are doomed anyway,we cannot hide behind the better powertrain package,this is something that we have done in the past and in the end we paid for it.

[NasI]

Where is Ferrari installed their engine on that tiny back black part of the car? Man, their work is unbelievable. Keep up the good work guys!!!

[PURE PASSION]

Any news??
Because on 2 live timings that i follow, it shows that Alo has 49 laps for the last 20 min!!

[f1tomi8]

Any news??
Because on 2 live timings that i follow, it shows that Alo has 49 laps for the last 20 min!!

Yes! Alo has 49 laps! Lunch break

[Majki2111]

Any news??
Because on 2 live timings that i follow, it shows that Alo has 49 laps for the last 20 min!!
Probably lunch...

[hrc5555]

It looks like Renault solved their problems.
Even Vettel has decent number of laps...

[PURE PASSION]

Thanks!!!
Then its time to go my too!!!

[Senna4Ever]

I believe that many of us have misunderstood the new rule changes to mean that aerodynamics are not important any more. In reality, aerodynamics continue to play a very important role, as will the tyres, and whoever had the edge in this domain previously, will continue enjoying an advantage.

RBR won the championships not because Ferrari had an unreliable engine that was breaking every other race, but because they simply did a better job overall.

and if our engine is more reliable and our aero is so efficient that gives much downforce without forgetting the cooling of the engine ... who did a better job overall?

[mirafiori]

Alonso back out on track.:-)

[anialonso]

When Ros brought the red flag,he was on a race simulation so Mercedes seem to have the confidence of trying one..
Common Ferrari show them that we can do it without any issue

[Senna4Ever]

It looks like Renault solved their problems.
Even Vettel has decent number of laps...

Seems so ... would be interesting for how many laps he was out there for one stint ... if these 36 laps so far are like out-lap-in .... or also more laps in a row ...
but however looks much better at all for them ...

[anialonso]

Alonso back out now

[RedPassion]

When Ros brought the red flag,he was on a race simulation so Mercedes seem to have the confidence of trying one..
Common Ferrari show them that we can do it without any issue
I believe it is more important at the moment to check all the systems(from wind tunnel data,to engine temps,to electronic systems) to know that all systems at home are now working fine,this is very important for further development,as for the rest just keep the faith.......

[fronaldo]

Ferrari is testing the Back end of the Car with new parts or setup

-f1today.net-

[Senna4Ever]

also ToroRosso making miles today ... by now more than RBs ...

[anialonso]

11:47 GLENN FREEMAN reports that Alonso has gone off at the end of the back straight:

"Just went in too deep and ran wide; tried to hold it but the car wobbled on him."

[anialonso]

11:49 New quickest lap of the day from Hulkenberg puts Force India back on top. 1m37.215s. Mercedes engines 1-2-3 now.

I Bet all the Sky,Autosport and BBC reporters are loving this..

Cant wait to see Ferrari crash all their party..:thumb

[Majki2111]

11:53 Hulk backs off for a lap then goes again. He's quickest of all in the first sector and does a personal best in the final part of the lap to shave another four thousandths of a second from the benchmark time.

11:49 New quickest lap of the day from Hulkenberg puts Force India back on top. 1m37.215s. Mercedes engines 1-2-3 now.
I think teams are starting to test thir performance...

[OSS EL BOSS]

Rosberg did his fastest lap on medium tyres.

[anakin]

Rosberg did his fastest lap on medium tyres.

how about alonso? hards?

[OSS EL BOSS]

how about alonso? hards?

No, he was on mediums too.

[OSS EL BOSS]

Rosberg did his fastest time on a 12-laps run while Fernando did his on a 8-laps run but much earlier and the track is improving.
And Fernando was on a faster lap through the first and second sector but he didn't complete the lap and pitted.

[OSS EL BOSS]

The most impressive laptime done so far is for me Hamiltons 1.37.9 yesterday on hards at the start of an 18-laps run.

[f1tomi8]

Most of the work centered on checking the car’s systems, as well as focusing on the engine, car balance and brakes. There have been three red flag interruptions so far, which slowed down the work rate, but did not have any great effect on the team’s schedule.

This afternoon work continues on system checks, with further set-up testing and the usual tyre evaluation.

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/busy-morning-alonso-f14#sthash.SkoMMsSN.dpuf

[OSS EL BOSS]

Our topspeed is not bad too, Fernando reached 291.1 km/h this morning only 2.3 km/h slower than the fastest car which was the Williams.

[Hornet]

Saw this on Autosport


Glenn Freeman spotted somebody from Mercedes stationed towards the end of the back straight recording various cars as they pass by on full throttle.

GARY ANDERSON: "It's likely he will be recording the engine sound. From that, you can work out the engine RPM and gear ratio. And from that, probably the engine torque and the electrical torque that a given car is using to reach its top speed."

Just goes to show how hard the teams are competing.

[anakin]

Saw this on Autosport



Just goes to show how hard the teams are competing.

ferrari should also do that.

[PadGeT]

It seems we aren't on top of our break by wire system.. locking up here and there
Sorry if i sound too pessimistic... blame my bloody exams for that :ouch

[OSS EL BOSS]

From this topspeed numbers we can read out that no team is really pushing the engine to the limit.
Last year on this track the highest topspeed was 314.2 km/h done by a Force India, and this years cars are expected to be round 15 km/h faster.

[OSS EL BOSS]

Rosberg into the 1.36 with 1.36.965.

[OSS EL BOSS]

Mercedes once again looking very strong, Resbergs lap was done on mediums.

[F2002]

and if our engine is more reliable and our aero is so efficient that gives much downforce without forgetting the cooling of the engine ... who did a better job overall?

That's a trickier question than you think, because it ignores the results of past seasons.

[hrc5555]

From this topspeed numbers we can read out that no team is really pushing the engine to the limit.
Last year on this track the highest topspeed was 314.2 km/h done by a Force India, and this years cars are expected to be round 15 km/h faster.

Aren't those cars supposed to have smaller top speed than last years? :-E

[SinanOzerS]

Aren't those cars supposed to have smaller top speed than last years? :-E

Nope.

[OSS EL BOSS]

Aren't those cars supposed to have smaller top speed than last years? :-E

No, not at all they should be even faster on the straights with less drag due the loss of the beam wing, a smaller rear wing and a better DRS.
As from the engine side the new power units should deliver rround 860 hp (700 from the combustion engine and 160 from ERS) which is more than 100 hp than the V8s.

[medeni73]

Alonso might doing long run but every live-test sites are fascinated by qualy-runs from Merccedes-engine cars...85 laps for Alonso..

[PadGeT]

Well if yesterday was a 9er out of 10 , whats today gonna be i wonder? :roll

[hrc5555]

That's a trickier question than you think, because it ignores the results of past seasons.

It doesnt matter which season you are looking to, its the same for every season. The team who does better job will win the championship, the team who does less good job will lose. It will be always like that...

[Senna4Ever]

That's a trickier question than you think, because it ignores the results of past seasons.

If I would compare past seasons with this one it would be like apples and pears ...
what do you think is harder: start from 0 or develop a solid basis proofed to be quick???

[Jas]

Acting team boss Gerard Lopez expects Lotus to be fully competitive in 2014.

Amid rumours of financial strife, the Enstone team sat out the opening Jerez test, and when the E22 finally made its public debut in Bahrain on Wednesday, it clocked the slowest time and a mere 8 laps.

Team owner Lopez, however - acting as team boss while the McLaren-departed Eric Boullier's successor is found - said Lotus was right to have voluntarily skipped Jerez.

"I predicted there would not be much to learn because of (technical) problems, so we saved a lot of money by staying home," he told Germany's Auto Motor und Sport.

The E22 then seemed to have a promising rollout at Jerez in the week after the official test, but in Bahrain on Wednesday Lotus struck Renault-powered trouble.

Nonetheless, Lopez is confident, dishing out high praise for the E22's designers, who have penned a car not only with a two-pronged nose, but an unusual asymmetrical solution for the exhaust and rear wing support.

"We have a super car," he said.

"The boys cannot believe the wind tunnel numbers. If we get those numbers on the track as well, the thing will go like hell.

"I can only hope we don't end up with three championships based on (engine suppliers) Mercedes and Ferrari and Renault," said Lopez.

[Domo-kun]

13:04 And across the lap! Magnussen is the first man below 1m36s at this test. 1m35.4s is the new benchmark.
Pointless comparison, but still...
Last year, the pole was taken by Rosberg with 1:32.330
And in the race, fastest was Vettel with 1:36.961 on lap 55

[gvera]

It's seems obvious Mercedes is testing with more power at the moment, I hope Ferrari has unleashed power...

[Hornet]

Wow, the McLaren went almost a second quicker, setting 1.35.489

Guess there's plenty of pace to be found in these new car.

[PadGeT]

Magnussen's tyre choice guys?

[PadGeT]

Wow, the McLaren went almost a second quicker, setting 1.35.489

Guess there's plenty of pace to be found in these new car.

Well i hope they r running some illegal setup/ride height

[medeni73]

on soft tyres 5-laps-Stint : Outlap - 1:35.489 - 2:03.225 - 1:39.113 - Inlap

[anakin]

qualifying type of stints huh

[OSS EL BOSS]

Seems like it was a quali. simulation from Magnussen.
It was a short 5-lap run on soft tyres.

[medeni73]

Alonso out, come on lets break 100 laps today :)

[tifosi1993]

Magnussen 1:39.3 to 1:35.4, so nearly 4 seconds improvement, which suggest its a low fuel run.

[PadGeT]

Any signs we have turn up the wick on the engine/ power front relative to jerez?

[medeni73]

MAgnussen 1:34:910
again soft tyres and another qualy sim probably...

[OSS EL BOSS]

Now that was fast 1.34.910:-E

[anakin]

mercedes powered cars already showing their cards

[SinanOzerS]

"EDD STRAW reports that Magnussen was running the supersoft tyre. #F1" (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23F1&src=hash)

[medeni73]

mercedes powered cars already showing their cards

it seems so...
Outlap - 1:34.910 - 1:58.351 - 1:35.491 - Inlap.

[tifosi1993]

mercedes powered cars already showing their cards

More likely McLaren/FI showing their cards.

[f1tomi8]

EDD STRAW reports that Magnussen was running the supersoft tyre

[OSS EL BOSS]

Mclaren is still looking for a main sponsor..

[tifosi1993]

"EDD STRAW reports that Magnussen was running the supersoft tyre. #F1" (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23F1&src=hash)

Last years Bahrain Q3 was done on Medium tyres.

[ntukza]

Of course, we're all hoping that there's much more to come from Ferrari in comparison to other leading teams. And of course, we could be wrong :dighole

[mark p]

Impossible to look too much at times yet but in terms of length of runs and pace merc teams seem further along their development programmes so far. No doubt all teams will reach a similar stage to each other by Australia but all 4 merc teams run long stints and now appear to be pushing.

I do not mind Ferrari doing what they are. Looking from the outside with lots of 3rd hand info Ferrari engine teams appear to be focusing on callibrating the brake by wire system. Both Sauber and Ferrari seem to of had some braking issues. Best to get this right asap before quali sims etc?

[tifosi1993]

Come on Fernando 9 more laps!

[tifosi1993]

Impossible to look too much at times yet but in terms of length of runs and pace merc teams seem further along their development programmes so far. No doubt all teams will reach a similar stage to each other by Australia but all 4 merc teams run long stints and now appear to be pushing.

I do not mind Ferrari doing what they are. Looking from the outside with lots of 3rd hand info Ferrari engine teams appear to be focusing on callibrating the brake by wire system. Both Sauber and Ferrari seem to of had some braking issues. Best to get this right asap before quali sims etc?

Ferrari having braking issues?

[evo_spook]

Ferrari having breaking issues?

Don't worry to much. All the teams are struggling with new brake by wire systems.

[f1tomi8]

Last years Bahrain Q3 was done on Medium tyres.
Yeah! Supersoft at least 2sec faster than medium a circle.

[PadGeT]

Of course, we're all hoping that there's much more to come from Ferrari in comparison to other leading teams. And of course, we could be wrong :dighole

Well if our in-season development goes according to plan and our windtunnel correlation is on par with RB guys, lets face it we have the resources to make some serious gains throughout the season and come the last few races we are gonna be the team to beat by a mile. Powertrain performance on our side wont be dat big a game changer ( i have faith in Luca Marmoni & co.), as long as we are reliable.

[f1tomi8]

The Ferrari is up to third with a 1m36.932s, and he's going quicker again. #F1

[Hornet]

Good to see Alonso getting back in the mix at the top

[f1tomi8]

Having backed off on that lap that was looking quick, Alonso stays out for one more slow tour and then brings the F14 T back to the pits.

[tifosi1993]

Don't worry to much. All the teams are struggling with new brake by wire systems.

I know Sauber is struggling with their BBW, so is Mercedes recently. But i can't find anything regarding Ferrari's BBW issues, so i would love to know from where @ mark p found that info.

[medeni73]

Second time today Alonso backs off when having fast lap...interesting ;)

[OSS EL BOSS]

Now we need to know on which tyre compound this fast lap was done.

[anakin]

The Ferrari is up to third with a 1m36.932s, and he's going quicker again. #F1

still on mediums?

[OSS EL BOSS]

I guess it was the medium compound.

[anakin]

Now we need to know on which tyre compound this fast lap was done.

yep!!! the fastest lap set by the mclarens was on supersofts

[OSS EL BOSS]

No, he was on soft tyres.

[medeni73]

German AMuS: "Alonsos 4-laps-stint on soft tyres, still 2 sec off, "not a good sign for Ferrari"

here we go "Let's attack Ferrari" !!!!...

[PadGeT]

I know Sauber is struggling with their BBW, so is Mercedes recently. But i can't find anything regarding Ferrari's BBW issues, so i would love to know from where @ mark p found that info.

Alonso & Rai. been locking up on corners since jerez.. even James Allison was alluding to it being their no 1 priority to fix in the Bahrain test, however its pretty fair to say we will eventually get on top of it somewhere between the remaining testing days, as the Ferraris have the reputation of being most stable on hard braking.

[mark p]

Ferrari having braking issues?

I did not mean braking issues as a major issue. Just from bits of info reported they are spending time perfecting this. Every car has something to work on more than other things this is why they are testing and building towards the season. Knowone could race at Australia and be happy with cars as they are now. Just speculating whether this is the largest single element Ferrari are focusing on. I don't know any other thoughts on Ferraris current testing plans would be welcome as interesting to discuss.

[f1tomi8]

Nice shot
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg6_sIUCMAACuLf.jpg:large

[gvera]

German AMuS: "Alonsos 4-laps-stint on soft tyres, still 2 sec off, "not a good sign for Ferrari"

here we go "Let's attack Ferrari" !!!!...

As Magnussen was on super-softs, I would say "half a second off" would be fairer..

[anakin]

No, he was on soft tyres.

oh nooo....

[RedPassion]

German AMuS: "Alonsos 4-laps-stint on soft tyres, still 2 sec off, "not a good sign for Ferrari"

here we go "Let's attack Ferrari" !!!!...
this is what we in austria call "08/15" journalism,really bad quality sensationalistic crap made for lemons.At this point nobody knows anything about anybody else(fuel,programs etc....)the rest its just wild speculation:lou

[Hornet]

German AMuS: "Alonsos 4-laps-stint on soft tyres, still 2 sec off, "not a good sign for Ferrari"

here we go "Let's attack Ferrari" !!!!...

I guess they did not noticed that Alonso went faster the next lap before backing off. I'd say we have more pace in the car, and Alonso is just playing around with it without pushing to the max. We have not seen Ferrari's true pace yet

[PadGeT]

Any body noticed the Red Bull ala overcut on Ferrari's sidepod bottom this season.. its no wonder why Riesta was referring to change in power train helping them remove some of their weakest point from earlier seasons

[tifosi1993]

yep!!! the fastest lap set by the mclarens was on supersofts

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg6_eD7CQAAMpD_.jpg

[F2002]

If I would compare past seasons with this one it would be like apples and pears ...
what do you think is harder: start from 0 or develop a solid basis proofed to be quick???

Hopefully, we will win both championships and answering this question will eventually be a nice problem to have :-)

[f1tomi8]

Monkey seat on the Ferrari
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg7BvSjIgAA7a26.jpg:large

[medeni73]

ALonso 1:36:516