Malaysian GP 2011 - Qualifying

[eugene22n]

So is it safe to say that Flavio was right? 1s off the leaders, how the hell will we get that back when testing is banned over the whole season?

Yeah looks worse than with the F60 but we will fight because it looks like regulations will be even more stable for next year so everything we can learn this year will be 100% useful.

[eugene22n]

And no talks of a B-spec chassis so far so it can't be that bad lol.

[Bruno]

Aren't they? I thought they were using it? Because if Vettel has no Kers, he'll be eaten tomorrow at the start by Lewis.

No. They aren't.

And Yes. I also think that Lewis will eat Vettel tomorrow because NOW:
Hamilton + Mercedes Engine + KERS + DRS + Long Malaysian Straights > Vettel and his RBR.

[Ferrarichamp]

so at this point it looks like:

-RB and Macca fighting for both championships
-Ferrari fighting Renault for 3rd place

at least the start will be interesting tomorrow, Vet vs Ham

[eugene22n]

No. They aren't.

And Yes. I also think that Lewis will eat Vettel tomorrow because NOW:
Hamilton + Mercedes Engine + KERS + DRS + Long Malaysian Straights > Vettel and his RBR.

Vettel said they were using the KERS, though I suppose they could turn it off for the race.

[Lithium]

It is astonishing how Maccas transform their turtle to this blaster. It is clear what we did wrong. We were too conservative, we didn't come with our own inovations. Now the only chance to catch them up is to find something big, that others don't have. Copying is not enough.

To quali: Fernando did good job by taking fifth. It is the best possible.

I'm not convinced they ever had a 'turtle'. In winter testing they simply had an unreliable car, so after bringing a more simplified and reliable package to Melbourne they started showing their real pace.

[Bruno]

Ah...so RBR were using KERS?

Sorry..my bad...

[MRRabbit]

No. They aren't.

And Yes. I also think that Lewis will eat Vettel tomorrow because NOW:
Hamilton + Mercedes Engine + KERS + DRS + Long Malaysian Straights > Vettel and his RBR.

They are using KERS so it's status quo

[eugene22n]

We are in position to capitalize on any reliability advantage we may have. With the Bulls and MLC fighting there will be plenty of chances for us to come out on top. I figure if we can minimize the damage here and China we will surely have more in Turkey.

[eugene22n]

Can't wait to see what the Ferrari press will say! And will we hear from Stefano ... or Pat Fry again.

[Lithium]

Looks like Fernando & Felipe could have done no better so well done you guys.
The faces in the garage tell the story though. It appears that we still 'don't understand' what's going wrong, how we're so far behind.If we don't know what's wrong we can't fix it! It is depressing.

But, the race is tomorrow and there's no reason why we shouldn't make some points ( just keep Nick Heidfeld, who's so often been a problem in the past, behind you Fernando!) to see us good at the end of the season when, please, we have a good car again.

Which probably means that the car is simply slow(er). And how to fix it? Find more speed! I'm sure they're working on it day and night...

[FFFerrari]

Hate to say it, but Flavio was right. We are lightyears behind RBR and MCL. Fernando looked really distraught when he was looking at the results.

If it rains tomorrow, anything can happen. If not, look for a repeat of Melbourne except with more actual racing for positions.

[eugene22n]

regardless of whether we are hopeless ultimately or not we will continue to develop the car because quite frankly we have a lot to learn on the Aero.

[eugene22n]

Otherwise you quit the year and spend 100% of the time in the design office and wind tunnel. Obviously we have lost some confidence in that since I have never seen Ferrari use the flow wis so much.

[eugene22n]

I think it says a lot that we were one of the only teams to stay on the push rod

[TIFOSI_FERRARI]

WE NEED RAIN TO BEAT THIS MONKEYS

GOOD JOB

FORZA FERRARI

[eugene22n]

season is 2 weeks longer than last year. Maybe longer if Bahrain somehow makes it in. Plenty of time to develop and close the gap.

[crewskas]

I don't really know why all want rain in here...
I would say, that we have the tendency to mess it all up in mixed conditions...
I can't remember not even one good wet race from us since 2008...

Anyway I move on...
From what I saw, I trully think that the 3rd fastest car is Renault and not Ferrari...
And if Robert was there, he possibly be 5th at least I think...

If Heidfeld can 6, then Robert can a lot more...

I wouldn't say we improved at all, but that track suited the most powerful engines against Renault...

And if Red Bull can take a poll here, then I'm afraid only in Canada and Monza they will lose it...

[TheProdigalSon]

I think it says a lot that we were one of the only teams to stay on the push rod

How do you know that's the problem it could be literally anything. We were fast in testing so I doubt it. Ferrari need to identify what changed from then to Australia. People saying Flavio was right and being negative is not helping. If Macca could fix there problem and find a second then so can Ferrari. Nevertheless Alonso produced another q3 miracle, wish Massa could have got ahead of the Renault though.

[eugene22n]

How do you know that's the problem it could be literally anything. We were fast in testing so I doubt it. Ferrari need to identify what changed from then to Australia. People saying Flavio was right and being negative is not helping. If Macca could fix there problem and find a second then so can Ferrari. Nevertheless Alonso produced another q3 miracle, wish Massa could have got ahead of the Renault though.

When everybody follows to pullrod and ferrari are basically the last big team on pushrod there is plenty to think about. That was the first thing people talked about at launch. It was a surprise.

But I'm sure that isn't the only reason for the gap. It just says something about our mentality.

[Hornet]

How do you know that's the problem it could be literally anything. We were fast in testing so I doubt it. Ferrari need to identify what changed from then to Australia. People saying Flavio was right and being negative is not helping. If Macca could fix there problem and find a second then so can Ferrari. Nevertheless Alonso produced another q3 miracle, wish Massa could have got ahead of the Renault though.

We aren't. RB and Macca never showed their pace in testing.

[Bruno]

OHhh...great quali of Kobayashi...I'm liking him more and more

[crewskas]

How do you know that's the problem it could be literally anything. We were fast in testing so I doubt it. Ferrari need to identify what changed from then to Australia. People saying Flavio was right and being negative is not helping. If Macca could fix there problem and find a second then so can Ferrari. Nevertheless Alonso produced another q3 miracle, wish Massa could have got ahead of the Renault though.

How can you know we were fast, if the true pace of the others is an unknown factor?
Really this car reminds me the F60...
Tough and grouch to drive it.
I bet if we put any other driver now in it, he would be 2 seconds off pace, like Luca and Fisichella in F60...

If we want to be competitive, then we must start a full new project car, including copying what RB has shown so far, as fast as possible...




And yeah...
Pushrod???
Aldo Costa said they used this old-fashioned way because they found something really good................

Lol?

[scuderiafan]

When everybody follows to pullrod and ferrari are basically the last big team on pushrod there is plenty to think about. That was the first thing people talked about at launch. It was a surprise.

But I'm sure that isn't the only reason for the gap. It just says something about our mentality.

Sauber are using push-rod and have improved their car massively. and it looks to me that it is the front end not the back end thats causing the problems. Anyways, Melbourne showed that we are better in Race conditions than Quali.

[eugene22n]

lots of talk about the development potential of the "radical" cars, renault, mclaren and torro rosso. I wonder what the development potential on a conservative car like ours is. We'll find out!

[Hermann]

[TheProdigalSon]

We aren't. RB and Macca never showed their pace in testing.

Macca had no pace in testing! Hence them only managing to bring a temporary fix in Australia (titanium diffuser). If it was bahrain then they would have been as bad as us.

[eugene22n]

Sauber are using push-rod and have improved their car massively. and it looks to me that it is the front end not the back end thats causing the problems. Anyways, Melbourne showed that we are better in Race conditions than Quali.

Given that they take our engine and gearbox (i think?) which are probably designed with push rod in mind they likely had little choice in that.

[Lithium]

Another thing is that our drivers were on used (scrubbed) soft tyres in Q3, no? I'm sure our boys could have been quite a bit faster on fresh tyres. When they're confident of getting through Q1 on the hards, things will look better. But we need to find more pace to be confident to do that. In other words, we're not 1 second off the pace in quali (well at least Alonso isn't...)

[eugene22n]

Yea, Craig Scarborough wrote that they are using our gearbox earlier

"Mechanically the car retains the Ferrari drive train. So again the car will sport the Ferrari gearbox"