Malaysian GP Race Thread

[Greig]

My solution, if I were in Stefano's shoes, would be to have them practice until they could get the stops under 4 seconds REGULARLY and if they can't even do it even in practice, they have to know exactly the problem.

It's funny because they are supposed to be the best in the business, yet they have been doing 5 seconds pit stop regularly, beaten by a drinks company.

So tell me, why could RBR and Mclaren do it and why can't we? These are questions that Stefano should ask after Aussie race, or even before that.

Right so you are saying they do not practice? Yes they do practice, 2 weeks ago they were in Australia, the mechanics then have to pack up the garages then go to Malaysia and rebuild it, so what do you propose? Did you see Lewis, 6.9 seconds stop? or ignore that to suit?

[wacko]

Indeed, so do what? sack the whole pitcrew, you realise the pitcrew are made up from mechanics, so we just sack them all?

why are you so defensive? have I ever mentioned sacking the entire crew? geez.

you don't have a solution to this as well, and a solution is NEEDED. the problem exist, it has existed for a while now, and it's not going away.

I am not paid the money Ferrari pays some of it's senior people who makes decisions, but those people will have to come up with a solution, and that solution has to translate to better and more consistent pit stops.

[Rishu]

Still not as bad as it looked on Friday, but SD & his team have lot of work to do

[m schumy]

Race Results

[RockyRaccoon]

Oh, my! Get ready for some storm, because on an interview on Spanish TV Alonso has hinted that the crash was not his fault... it went more or less like this:

It was completely Alonso's fault, he pulled out too late, Hamilton didn't move over on him at all.

[Greig]

so you'd rather keep out of habit bunch of slow men? if you are not effective with your work then sacking might be the only opportunity

Ok so we replace 20 mechanics, where from? Send your CV to Stefano

[Katu]

Oh, my! Get ready for some storm, because on an interview on Spanish TV Alonso has hinted that the crash was not his fault... it went more or less like this:
Q: Fernando, a bit too much ambition there...
FA: No (and this was literally the answer)
Q: So what happened?
FA: Some strange aggressive movements at over 300km/h, we touched and I got the worst deal

More than enough to unleash a storm. Please let us know what both him and Hamilton say when interviewed by the BBC.

just nice. i'd like to see what hamy has to say about it

[vagos]

yep i also think the crash was alonsos mistake.......... c'est la vie as they say in France lets see for the next race........... Alonso is fighting with all that he has ............

[Greig]

why are you so defensive? have I ever mentioned sacking the entire crew? geez.

you don't have a solution to this as well, and a solution is NEEDED. the problem exist, it has existed for a while now, and it's not going away.

I am not paid the money Ferrari pays some of it's senior people who makes decisions, but those people will have to come up with a solution, and that solution has to translate to better and more consistent pit stops.

So what is your solution? easy for you to sit on the internet and tell Ferrari what to do, tell us how they make our mechanics quicker at pitstops compared to what they are doing now?

[Katu]

Ok so we replace 20 mechanics, where from? Send your CV to Stefano

i'm not saying i'm better, but those pitstops were more than joke today. did they manage 1 good stop out of all 6 they did?

[Greig]

Oh, my! Get ready for some storm, because on an interview on Spanish TV Alonso has hinted that the crash was not his fault... it went more or less like this:
Q: Fernando, a bit too much ambition there...
FA: No (and this was literally the answer)
Q: So what happened?
FA: Some strange aggressive movements at over 300km/h, we touched and I got the worst deal

More than enough to unleash a storm. Please let us know what both him and Hamilton say when interviewed by the BBC.

LOL Hamilton never moved at all

[vagos]

LOL Hamilton never moved at all

exactly my point........

[Greig]

i'm not saying i'm better, but those pitstops were more than joke today. did they manage 1 good stop out of all 6 they did?

Yes they were a joke, but what can Stefano do that he is not already, I am sure he would welcome the answer.

[FFFerrari]

It was completely Alonso's fault, he pulled out too late, Hamilton didn't move over on him at all.

Indeed. For once it was clearly his mistake, no way to deny that. Lewis did have some strange choice of lines on the finish straight just before that, though.

[Katu]

btw i don't think stefano changes anything, he is to reluctangt too change anything

[wacko]

So what is your solution? easy for you to sit on the internet and tell Ferrari what to do, tell us how they make our mechanics quicker at pitstops compared to what they are doing now?

Why do we in this forum need to come up with the solution? Why are you expecting any of us to come up with one? We see the problem, Ferrari should recognise the problem, are you denying that there is a problem? The team needs to come up with a solution, and I'm leaving it as that.

[Greig]

Actually BBC just showed it again and Lewis does move across ever so slightly

[Greig]

Why do we in this forum need to come up with the solution? Why are you expecting any of us to come up with one? We see the problem, Ferrari should recognise the problem, are you denying that there is a problem? The team needs to come up with a solution, and I'm leaving it as that.

Where have I denied its a problem? How can they come up with a solution, only solution is to replace the 20 odd mechanics that do pitstops in their spare time between their real job.

[RockyRaccoon]

Watching it again Hamilton does move over on Alonso!

[impactX]

Right so you are saying they do not practice? Yes they do practice, 2 weeks ago they were in Australia, the mechanics then have to pack up the garages then go to Malaysia and rebuild it, so what do you propose? Did you see Lewis, 6.9 seconds stop? or ignore that to suit?

I don't have to ignore it, look at his poor finish in relation to Vettel.

The point is, if you can't build a perfect car, at least do something right the best you can. I didn't say they didn't practice. They practiced but either they didn't have the best methodology or they got so rusty that their stops are so slow compared to last year.

Hey, I am not the one getting paid for by Ferrari to do pitstops. If I were, I would make sure that I would get it under 4 seconds BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS. Is it so hard to be professional and do the best they can while they work at Ferrari?

[Agron]

Well, not a great result, but it was a great race.
Alonso made a great race, a good start but in the middle of so many cars blocking him all around he ended up 7th, and from there he took the fight almost to third, awesome race pace. Shame he made that mistake overtaking Hamilton, but as Gené or De La Rosa (don't remember which) said, as his DRS didn't work his only option was to overtake when his tyres were fresh, so it was then or never for him.
Massa made a race as good as Alonso if not better, with a good start only for the pitstop to fail him.
Not a great race for Ferrari, a big pitstop mistake, some other pitstops not as fast as the competition, and Alonso's DRS failing which could have made that overtake on Hamilton much easier and now we would be celebrating a 2nd or 3rd place. That being said, at least it's obvious that on race pace, the Ferrari is as fast as RB and McLaren, although if you don't start on the 3rd position at least, it's still almost impossible to fight for the win.

Vettel is again running into the distance, but at least Hamilton finished well behind and things look better for the WDC (not that great for the WCC though with Button 2nd).

[vagos]

i dont know what does it matter anymore .............it happened we lost the pondium and we go ahead.......... FORZA FERRARIIIIIII it is racing sometimes you expect to crash............

[Ste]

Watching it again Hamilton does move over on Alonso!

I want to see it again. Interesting.

[Meiga]

So your solution is what, sack our mechanics?

The solution is: sort out qualy pace, so that we don't have to cross our fingers that other drivers may impede the starts; and sort out starts, so that we don't face an uphill on every race after turn 2.

The moment the team is not under pressure to deliver 110% to come back on every race, results will improve.

[vcs316]

btw i don't think stefano changes anything, he is to reluctangt too change anything

Nobody would know whether he is reluctant to change or not.. But things HAVE to change!! Costa and Fry were also saying that Ferrari needs to change its approach to race weekends as well as testing during free practice.

[impactX]

Where have I denied its a problem? How can they come up with a solution, only solution is to replace the 20 odd mechanics that do pitstops in their spare time between their real job.

So why could RBR do it regularly then? Did they hire full time pitcrew who are not mechanics?

[scuderia_nano]

no he never really

Ok, If Massa can be team ordered to get Alonso Ahead, Lewis can brake test Alonso to ruin his race.

[LeonKennedy]

I wouldn't blame all on Alonso, really.

It was a really fast exit from a fast corner, you're going really fast and you're trying to overtake, no matter how much you try to be conservative, a small move and that's it, wing off.

[Greig]

I don't have to ignore it, look at his poor finish in relation to Vettel.

The point is, if you can't build a perfect car, at least do something right the best you can. I didn't say they didn't practice. They practiced but either they didn't have the best methodology or they got so rusty that their stops are so slow compared to last year.

Hey, I am not the one getting paid for by Ferrari to do pitstops. If I were, I would make sure that I would get it under 4 seconds BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS. Is it so hard to be professional and do the best they can while they work at Ferrari?

So you are now saying the guys doing pitstops are un-professional?

Pathetic

[Maztin]

Finishing 5th and 6th considering the pace is not bad...a bit too hard for Alonso having a puncture :(