Sinagpore GP - Race Thread

[Alonsomaniac]

It's pretty amazing to see Fernando is still fighting for 2nd place in the championship with a car that is only good enough for P5.

And I'm sure he will continue to do so, even if though for a man like him onely one place counts and that is not second.

[joseluis88]

Bring Aldo Costa back....

And Jean Todt too. it's like Kenny Dalglish returning to Liverpool after Roy Hodgson's disastrous reign back then...

[Alonsomaniac]

And Jean Todt too. it's like Kenny Dalglish returning to Liverpool after Roy Hodgson's disastrous reign back then...

I don't think that wanting back the old days and people from Ferrari's past will do the team any good. We have a good team, we just need to improve the car. This team can do it, maybe with some additional technical masterminds, but basically the team is OK.

[Hermann]

Did anyone watch the interviews? From the twitters is look as if Massa was in the mood for a little fistfight after the race when approaching Ramilton...

[Alonsomaniac]

Felipe Massa:"The FIA must look at this and penalise him all the time. He can't even listen to his father, so can you imagine he listens to me?”

After the race, Massa was reported to have discussed the moment with Hamilton in the FIA Media Pen, with the former nudging the latter’s shoulder.

[Gerhard Berger]

Not to take anything away from Alonso, he's one of the best if not the best driver on the grid today, and yeah with a car like F2004, he would be invincible. I don't think anyone can beat him even if you gave all of them the same car.

But I think its not appropriate for us to keep saying Alonso deserve a better car or something from Ferrari, because he is part of Ferrari. So that would be like saying Ferrari deserve a better car. Of course Ferrari will always strive to build the best car, and both Alonso and Massa is a part of this very same team building the car. Both our drivers are a part of that team building the car, so its not about Ferrari giving them something they deserve, but they play their role together in building a car. No one is giving anyone anything

I see your point, but it's really alot harder for Alonso to drive the development of the car (as we saw with Schumacher when he was with us) because of this testing ban.

[REDARMYSOJA]

Did anyone watch the interviews? From the twitters is look as if Massa was in the mood for a little fistfight after the race when approaching Ramilton...

They're saying he gave Hamilton a bit of a shove. Should have given him a bit of a fist in the mouth.

[Alessandra]

Well done, Fernando! I hope you enjoyed yourself
Felipe? What can you say? What does LH have to do to get a race ban? Or put back 45 seconds at the end of the race?
Another good race from Button.

[Nova]

Not to take anything away from Alonso, he's one of the best if not the best driver on the grid today, and yeah with a car like F2004, he would be invincible. I don't think anyone can beat him even if you gave all of them the same car.

But I think its not appropriate for us to keep saying Alonso deserve a better car or something from Ferrari, because he is part of Ferrari. So that would be like saying Ferrari deserve a better car. Of course Ferrari will always strive to build the best car, and both Alonso and Massa is a part of this very same team building the car. Both our drivers are a part of that team building the car, so its not about Ferrari giving them something they deserve, but they play their role together in building a car. No one is giving anyone anything

[Alonsomaniac]

Even on the Autosport.com forums quite a few people are talking about Hamilton in a negative way

[racingbradley]

They are on a big Ramilton love in ( on the red button)
EJ wants someone to put their arms around Lewis and tell him he's wanted by the team.
Hmmm I know what I would give him and it's not a hug!!!!!

[FFFerrari]

Not to take anything away from Alonso, he's one of the best if not the best driver on the grid today, and yeah with a car like F2004, he would be invincible. I don't think anyone can beat him even if you gave all of them the same car.

But I think its not appropriate for us to keep saying Alonso deserve a better car or something from Ferrari, because he is part of Ferrari. So that would be like saying Ferrari deserve a better car. Of course Ferrari will always strive to build the best car, and both Alonso and Massa is a part of this very same team building the car. Both our drivers are a part of that team building the car, so its not about Ferrari giving them something they deserve, but they play their role together in building a car. No one is giving anyone anything

This. If your only an Alonso fan, might as well get back at the start of season 2012. The guy as a fantastic driver but he is not a golden god that can win with a bucket and a pair of oars. Yes the car could be better for BOTH of our drivers, not just him. The car could be better for the TEAM Ferrari to get the WCC.

[FerrariF60]

so dissappinting that this year's car is just as bad as the F60, maybe a little bit better
Alonso is making it look so much better then it actually is, and is sad to say, but it seems that we may ONLY have ONE race win this season (just like in 2009) and that was only because the FIA have twiked the rules for that race and we were the ones that affected us the LEAST, hence we won that race in Silverstone.

at the race Ferrari are bringing updates to every race (or should i say LACK of updates), Fernando will be lucky if he gets 4th or 5th in the championship standings, let alone 2ND like FERRARI ARE DREAMING OF, or said he's going to have a chance at a race or two ago..

i'd have to sum up this season as a VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTING SEASON FOR THE SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO!!!!!

OK i'm done venting....for now...until the next crappy race we're gonna have in two weeks time

[OldskoolF1]

I see your point, but it's really alot harder for Alonso to drive the development of the car (as we saw with Schumacher when he was with us) because of this testing ban.

The testing ban is the same for everyone though so you can't blame that for our poor performance

[Hermann]

Massa's interview:

[SilverSpeed]

Thanks for the interview!

Look as Massa's eyes , he's just frustraded as me with that ramilton.

[FerrariF60]

It's pretty amazing to see Fernando is still fighting for 2nd place in the championship with a car that is only good enough for P5.

yeah, but he won't be for long; he's already 3rd now in WDC, and with both mclaren drivers having faster cars as well as webber, he'll be lucky if by the end of season will be 5th or 6th in the WDC...and that is fact, NOT FAIRY TALE....sad but TRUE!!!

all 'n all Forza Ferrari and hopefully will be building a MISSILE of a car called F2012 for next season

[burak karakutuk]

so dissappinting that this year's car is just as bad as the F60, maybe a little bit better
Alonso is making it look so much better then it actually is, and is sad to say, but it seems that we may ONLY have ONE race win this season (just like in 2009) and that was only because the FIA have twiked the rules for that race and we were the ones that affected us the LEAST, hence we won that race in Silverstone.

at the race Ferrari are bringing updates to every race (or should i say LACK of updates), Fernando will be lucky if he gets 4th or 5th in the championship standings, let alone 2ND like FERRARI ARE DREAMING OF, or said he's going to have a chance at a race or two ago..

i'd have to sum up this season as a VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTING SEASON FOR THE SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO!!!!!

OK i'm done venting....for now...until the next crappy race we're gonna have in two weeks time

I agree at some points of what you comment.First i would like to start with saying our comments,interviews nowadays and last couple of races.We begin to hide truth from fans saying "Our aim is win races as possibble as we can" "this track and tyres good for us" bla bla bla...Well i think it is unnecessary is it?We all know the truth and we are behind Ferrari whathever has happend.Secondly,it seems hard to save Fernando's 3rd position of drivers championship.And last,i know we are Ferrari and there is always pressure,big expectations,sponsors...But do we have to speak to much for next year car and new unbeatable construction.Nothing we have achived yet what we aimed so i just want my team to stay quit and focus duty.More silent,deeply,determined to success.Am i right?Lets build a car whorty of Ferrari lets do it and make us champion again
Not:I do not blame or criticise anyone just asking

[M.K]

Problem with Hamilton is that he don't know where the edge is and so does the others. Like Vettel said about Alonso, that no matter what situation he is, he knows Fernando will let room just enough. You could see that in Spa where Webber passed Alonso on Eu Rouge and had just enough space to do that, with Lewis that would been massive collision.

[shostak]

This year Ferrari has two major disadvantages in comparison with RedBull and McLaren: suspensions and engine. Ferrari made a huge mistake not taking pullrod suspensions, this is the main mistake. Tyres are esential and Ferrari couldnt change because impossibility to alter the chasis.
And then the engine: i suspect Ferrari's engine can exploit blowing exhausts like Mercedes and Renault engines. With this nothing can be made.

[Stormsearcher]

What a tough race. Gets tougher to watch when our cars are sitting ducks on the track.
But Alonso drove wonderfully to pull out fourth. An amazing start as always. Poor Felipe, his luck sucks. Lewis should be given a 2 race ban starting first race next season.

Doesnt look like we'll be winning any more races this season. Its not getting over fast enough. I just want next year to start.

[Kyss4k]

Problem with Hamilton is that he don't know where the edge is and so does the others. Like Vettel said about Alonso, that no matter what situation he is, he knows Fernando will let room just enough. You could see that in Spa where Webber passed Alonso on Eu Rouge and had just enough space to do that, with Lewis that would been massive collision.

You took words out of my mouth. He is still this little child as he was back in 2007. He surely is great driver but he don't know the boundaries and because of that he is dangerous to anyone. Monaco and Canada 2011 are his masterpieces.

[Hornet]

This year Ferrari has two major disadvantages in comparison with RedBull and McLaren: suspensions and engine. Ferrari made a huge mistake not taking pullrod suspensions, this is the main mistake. Tyres are esential and Ferrari couldnt change because impossibility to alter the chasis.
And then the engine: i suspect Ferrari's engine can exploit blowing exhausts like Mercedes and Renault engines. With this nothing can be made.

Thankfully we may solve both problems next year, with the blown diffuser gone and Ferrari is rumored to be working on pullrod next year.

But we have to be prepared that Adrian Newey may come up with something else next year, so hopefully Ferrari can find our own special something too for next year.

[FerrariF60]

Thankfully we may solve both problems next year, with the blown diffuser gone and Ferrari is rumored to be working on pullrod next year.

But we have to be prepared that Adrian Newey may come up with something else next year, so hopefully Ferrari can find our own special something too for next year.

we have to come up with our own innovations; we cant just wait for others to bring something and then having to copy them
with the design team we've built now, i'm pretty sure Ferrari will come up with their own innovations and for once others will struggle and want to copy ours.

one die hard FERRARI fan like me can only HOPE!!!!

[shostak]

we have to come up with our own innovations; we cant just wait for others to bring something and then having to copy them
with the design team we've built now, i'm pretty sure Ferrari will come up with their own innovations and for once others will struggle and want to copy ours.

one die hard FERRARI fan like me can only HOPE!!!!

Dont forget we have Rory Byrne on board again. Innovations in Ferrari for sure.

[Ferraristka]

It's that true, that Massa hit Hamilton? I have heard that BBC have a video from this action :O and one more thing. That what Massa said is true. Hamilton is not using his mind... Fi have a puncher and he lost more time than Lewis with his broken front wing.. ech I am so angry about Hamilton.. and also about Schumi.. is was so good and then a stupid mistake :(

[Hornet]

It's that true, that Massa hit Hamilton? I have heard that BBC have a video from this action :O and one more thing. That what Massa said is true. Hamilton is not using his mind... Fi have a puncher and he lost more time than Lewis with his broken front wing.. ech I am so angry about Hamilton.. and also about Schumi.. is was so good and then a stupid mistake :(

Nope, Lewis ran right into Massa's rear right wheel. Lewis locked up, which obviously show that he misjudge his braking point, couldn't slow down and hit Massa.

Thats weird if BBC claim otherwise

[Kyss4k]

It's that true, that Massa hit Hamilton? I have heard that BBC have a video from this action :O and one more thing. That what Massa said is true. Hamilton is not using his mind... Fi have a puncher and he lost more time than Lewis with his broken front wing.. ech I am so angry about Hamilton.. and also about Schumi.. is was so good and then a stupid mistake :(

Felipe should have punch him to his "pretty" face. Or kick whatever...

[Katu]

sooner or later someone's gonna get really hurt after hamilton's actions. if FIA doesn't do anything against it. race ban maybe?

[Ferraristka]

Hornet I know everything. I have heard that after the race Lewis was talking with journalist and then Massa hit him and I asking about this situation :)