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    What Ferrari/Fiat need to do is buy back all the IPO stock after it's issued and give it to Ross Brawn to intice him to return. Give him complete control to hire/fire. IF they do that, we MIGHT be competitive in 2017 or 2018!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso14 View Post
    Here's a theory of mine (and a lot of other people in the world I presume). MM is being fired because he made an angry "I'm gonna show you, boy" decision. There was a moment when it became absolutely clear that Alonso doesn't want to stay and there is no way MM or whoever to persuade him otherwise. My guess is that MM then pushed for the Vettel deal to be announced thinking it would hurt Alonso because it would be clear that Ferrari is no longer an option and other teams which are negotiating with him would know that and twist FA's hands. However, the tables turned and suddenly Ferrari found themselves in a situation in which they have 3 WDC with big fat contracts signed up for 2015. Alonso, annoyed with MM's antics, recognized that and knowing that Ferrari would have to pay him a big severance package which would cost millions and millions as they have no other option. And then the Ferrari management became unhappy with MM for losing us a ton of money and maybe that's the meaning of "Mattiacci is being fired because of how he handled Alonso and his exit."

    Again, this is just a theory of mine.
    Not everything has to be tied to Alonso.

    Marco makes decisions, sure, but when it's a decision that involves a considerable investment--drivers, for example--he'd need to get things signed off from higher up. They will have a system of checks and balances for such matters. Particularly with the FIAT-CM merger having just happened.

    Given his background, if there's anything that Marco is good at then it will be the bottom line. His primary skill would be making, not losing, money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killer View Post
    Not everything has to be tied to Alonso.

    Marco makes decisions, sure, but when it's a decision that involves a considerable investment--drivers, for example--he'd need to get things signed off from higher up. They will have a system of checks and balances for such matters. Particularly with the FIAT-CM merger having just happened.

    Given his background, if there's anything that Marco is good at then it will be the bottom line. His primary skill would be making, not losing, money.
    Absolutely, i don't know why people keep on pushing that Mattiaci was sacked because of his poor negotiations with Alonso...

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    LoL! I was expecting something like Los Galacticos... Newey , Brawn etc.. Instead what we getting? Gotta be joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    Sorry but this is out of order. Marco left his senior position in North America to fill in for this TP role at very short notice the same week in fact. You will not find many employees willing to do this that's for sure. He left his family, was experiencing jet lag hence the sunglasses when he arrived here, has worked for Ferrari for many years, brought great success to the North American division, wasn't afraid of being tough and so forth but now finds himself out of a job. He has given a lot to Ferrari but received a kicking in the end. This is doing no good to Ferrari's image as a reliable employer. People will think twice before signing up with Ferrari.
    I doubt that Mattiacci will be out of a job and taking his place in the unemployment line lol. I'm sure he will be transferred to some other position within the company. Maybe back to his old job in the US, who knows.
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    Imagine the message it sends to all Ferrari employees, starting from engineers, factory personnel, race engineers, race management. We need some positivity within the team, I don't know where it'll come from.

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    I think they said it was short term from the beginning. I think the headlines are exaggerating the story to create drama. Maurizio was probably not available 7 months ago and year already started. Another headline states Marco is moving to a more senior role at Ferrari. But Ferrari site does state we thank him for last 15 years at Ferrari and wish him well i his future .... Who really knows. His main work was probably with the Fiat Chrysler Ferrari spin in the US.

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    I wish the Italian government did more to protect Italian companies. 10% is less scary. Many great companies get turned to dust listing in the us.

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    I think also MM was a temp from the beginning.
    Didnt Ferrari used to send guys getting axed on holiday 1st? Think they did.

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    Not really surprised by this, Sergio is ruthless & he doesn't hesitate to shake things up when they're not going to his plan. I think he was very concerned with our seemingly uncontrolled downward spiral through the ranking of F1 teams - an inability to even hold status quo since MM took over. Of course Maurizio is most probably "one of his guys", but MM showed no talent at making any moves to improve the team (was a grid penalty 3 or 4 races ago such a terrible thing to endure to have a fresher engine available for a double point finale race?). Maybe you wouldn't find many employees willing to do what Mattiaci did, but if they're upper managers you would find very few refusing the call - comes with the territory (in my opinion).

    I think the message the employees at the Scuderia learned was... "thank God I'm not in upper management!" or "I knew this guy was in over his head, surprised he made it to the end of the season!"

    Now, if we were to loose Allison then I'd begin to really worry!
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    I don't have high expectations I prefer a nice surprise

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    Really surprised about that ...
    Everytime someone came up with that he is only here temporary and he might go back to where he came from we got told that it isn't so (--> lie) ... and now: he even isn't going back where he was coming from. Completely axed.

    He hasn't become one of my favourites but to be honest: I can not imagine a single reason why he got fired by only 8 month in charge ... I didn't knew that MM was a magician - who would have been needed to turn things around within the season ...
    - no in-season testing
    - engine freeze

    so what in the world should he achieve by this circumstances?
    if he would have things turned around we should consider to announce him to get spoken holy by the pope ...

    but to get axed that radically ... wow ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by abbottcostello View Post
    Not really surprised by this, Sergio is ruthless & he doesn't hesitate to shake things up when they're not going to his plan. I think he was very concerned with our seemingly uncontrolled downward spiral through the ranking of F1 teams - an inability to even hold status quo since MM took over. Of course Maurizio is most probably "one of his guys", but MM showed no talent at making any moves to improve the team (was a grid penalty 3 or 4 races ago such a terrible thing to endure to have a fresher engine available for a double point finale race?). Maybe you wouldn't find many employees willing to do what Mattiaci did, but if they're upper managers you would find very few refusing the call - comes with the territory (in my opinion).

    I think the message the employees at the Scuderia learned was... "thank God I'm not in upper management!" or "I knew this guy was in over his head, surprised he made it to the end of the season!"

    Now, if we were to loose Allison then I'd begin to really worry!
    Don't want to sound negative, just got off the phone with some friends at the factory late yesterday. Atmosphere is certainly not at its best.

    Top brass are threading on thin ice.

    Ruthless is one thing, compassionate with a direct objective is another.

    I sincerely don't understand the new Ferrari. We don't react like this. Never before. This is NOT good.

    My humble 2 cents, if we didn't think MM was up to it, we should have given him an interim title.

    We made a huge announcement and were high on spirits with MM and in lesser than a season, he is gone.

    I don't like MM, don't think he is the right guy but I feel for him.

    His credentials, profile, reputation = niente. Just like that!

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    Strong rumors in Italy about Brawn and Newey to join Ferrari. Marchionne wants them strongly. Today Ferrari Strategy meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulpg87 View Post
    Strong rumors in Italy about Brawn and Newey to join Ferrari. Marchionne wants them strongly. Today Ferrari Strategy meeting.
    Where did you hear this news.??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirafiori View Post
    Where did you hear this news.??
    during this morning tv news before leaving for the office. I looking also on the internet and they reported on f1passion.it the news. We will probaly have some new hints this evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulpg87 View Post
    Strong rumors in Italy about Brawn and Newey to join Ferrari. Marchionne wants them strongly. Today Ferrari Strategy meeting.
    I'd be really happy to get just one of these guys. Let's hope the rumors turn out to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulpg87 View Post
    during this morning tv news before leaving for the office. I looking also on the internet and they reported on f1passion.it the news. We will probaly have some new hints this evening.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero Horse View Post
    I'd be really happy to get just one of these guys. Let's hope the rumors turn out to be true.
    Hi Nero Horse, yeah we need some positive news, feeling low at the moment like many Ferrari fans. We seem like the team we were 20 years ago. Forza ferrari.

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    Ross is likely but hasn't Newey always said he doesn't want to move to Italy?
    How long does Newey have contract with RB and what would Allison do then?
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    Newey move is highly unlikely i think. But Brawn, why not ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna4Ever View Post
    Ross is likely but hasn't Newey always said he doesn't want to move to Italy?
    How long goes Newey have contract with RB and what would Allison do then?
    Newey recently signed a new contract with Red Bull that will put him in other role, he's retiring from F1. So yeah, I don't think he's going anywhere.

    Unless someone can change Newey mind about retirement, and buy out his entire new contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirafiori View Post
    Hi Nero Horse, yeah we need some positive news, feeling low at the moment like many Ferrari fans. We seem like the team we were 20 years ago. Forza ferrari.
    Indeed mate. These are very tough times we're going through. But, we need to look forward and hope that much happier times will come soon.

    To quote Ozzy Osbourne: "I'm just a dreamer who dreams of better days..."

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    Newey got a new position in Red Bull that it doesn't include traveling, he doesn't like to travel anymore, he is slowly preparing to retire and spend time with his family. That's why i think is highly unlikely for Newey to join us.
    We shall see about Brawn though

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinanOzerS View Post
    Newey move is highly unlikely i think. But Brawn, why not ?
    Brawn won't come... Well at least for now, he may change his mind but quite certain he won't.

    After what happened or is happening, I would think Ferrari needs to show some stability before trying to hire some legendary names.

    In the context, if you are one of the top dogs in F1, will you join Ferrari... Now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    Brawn won't come... Well at least for now, he may change his mind but quite certain he won't.

    After what happened or is happening, I would think Ferrari needs to show some stability before trying to hire some legendary names.

    In the context, if you are one of the top dogs in F1, will you join Ferrari... Now?
    Well, a 4-time WDC just recently did...the lure of Ferrari is always there, even when the team is in a slump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post

    In the context, if you are one of the top dogs in F1, will you join Ferrari... Now?
    Really? if that was true then MS, Brawn, Byrne etc etc would never have joined. And we just signed a 4 times champ to replace a 2 times champ to drive alongside a 1 time champ. To say top people will only join us if we are on top is clearly not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Really? if that was true then MS, Brawn, Byrne etc etc would never have joined. And we just signed a 4 times champ to replace a 2 times champ to drive alongside a 1 time champ. To say top people will only join us if we are on top is clearly not the case.
    Absolutely right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Absolutely right.
    It was a little different then, a lot different now.

    Time will tell if the new 4 times incoming ex world champ will stick around if our Program goes south.

    I may not be keeping all records, but I cant find one where Ferrari has changed 2 TPs in one season.

    So the atmosphere is very different.

    Top people will join us if they feel confident that we have a good plan, a good program, a cause that will likely bring the team to victory.

    One ex champion just left because he saw it wasn't going to happen.

    I am saying this with much love, reference and passion for Ferrari.

    Its my team, the best team in the world. To see it in this state breaks my heart.

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