Bahrain Grand Prix 2015 - Race Thread

[KimiBot]

I'm not diminishing Kimi's brilliance but every driver other than Hamilton was 'BEHIND', and Kimi spent a much higher proportion of the race in free air than Seb did. Given the superiority of the Mercedes it took a tag-team effort by Ferrari to get one car in front of one of theirs. It was smart for the team to split strategies. It helps that Mercedes insist on running their two drivers on identical strategies - that opens up possibilities for other teams to exploit.

I think Kimi and Seb had a same strategy.


Maurizio Arrivabene: “I am really happy for Kimi: today I can officially state that he’s back. He showed what a race animal he is, and if he had had a few more laps perhaps… Also, I am happy for the team, because they worked really well. Sebastian made a couple of mistakes today, one at the beginning, which forced us to change his race strategy, whereas in the case of Kimi we followed our plans. He was not totally convinced about it at a point, but showed a great deal of discipline in following instructions from the pit-wall. As for Seb, he actually made something wrong, otherwise we could have had two drivers on the rostrum; but he’s a human being as we all are. He’s a fantastic driver and let’s not forget now what he has already achieved so far. I wish to thank everybody back at Maranello, because they were able to work on the engine development, but also on every single component, achieving over three months what normally would have required twice as much. I can’t tell if we are going to catch the Mercedes, but I do like the idea of putting some pressure on them. Today we were aware of the gap between them and ourselves, and that required an aggressive strategy. Having said that, with regard to the Friday log runs where we had showed a good pace, the temperature was much lower today, and we had to react accordingly.”

http://formula1.ferrari.com/en/

[wickedf1]

No you wouldn't have. It had racial connotations and you chose to employ it. Schumacher used to jump up and down like and I don't recall anyone saying it.

Please don't accuse. In different countries it means different things, so you can't say anyone knows anything. Hamilton himself used same term against his fellow men drivers.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/0...-love-with-f1/ (7th stanza)

So please do not be too harsh because many use the term include the man himself without meaning this terrible thing. Still, now it is understood that it is used poorly in some countries to mean terrible things so now no one will use it again. That is all.

I am still Celebrating our podium with Kimi! I am so happy for him and the team for this weekend. And Sebastian still brought nice points for us and he is happy for Kimi. For me the team is strong and that is fantastic! Spain GP EXCITE!!

[Nero Horse]

[Fireblade]

"I think Kimi and Seb had a same strategy."

Well, maybe I'm giving the team credit for what was instead a happy accident. Regardless of whether it was originally planned or not, I don't think we'd have had a driver finish P2 if not for the split strategy.

[Nero Horse]

Slightly off topic, but I remember how just a few months ago some people were moaning about Ferrari's choice to keep using the pull-rod suspension and said that "Ferrari is doomed for this season" lol.....funny how quickly things can change.

James Allison and co. certainly have proved now that it is possible to be very competitive with a pull-rod suspension.

[Ed Harley]

Yes, but considering how much they had to make fundamental changes to make it work satisfactorily I wonder why they did not do the 2015 version in the first place?

[F1 Dream Team]

Yes, but considering how much they had to make fundamental changes to make it work satisfactorily I wonder why they did not do the 2015 version in the first place?

http://www.circusf1.com/f14/wp-conte...vs-f14t-04.jpg

Pat fry

[Nova]

I still can't get into these night races... still makes no sense to me even if it's done to improve ratings...

Yea but it was on at 11AM here on the east coast. Much better for me than trying to
stay up for a 2AM race for sure.

[DIEK]

[tifosi1993]

[Black Adder]

btw 40s difference between Kimi and Bottas.... That's huge!!

[IulianFerrari]

btw 40s difference between Kimi and Bottas.... That's huge!!

I think I am happier to see RBR struggling, Ricciardo is doing his best but it's nice to see Horner shaking his head 10 times per race. It would have been great to see his face after Ricciardo finished ... with a bang !

[mirafiori]

Slightly off topic, but I remember how just a few months ago some people were moaning about Ferrari's choice to keep using the pull-rod suspension and said that "Ferrari is doomed for this season" lol.....funny how quickly things can change.

James Allison and co. certainly have proved now that it is possible to be very competitive with a pull-rod suspension.

Yes very true and many people were moaning about Sergio Marchionne and Fiat selling 10% shares in Ferrari, I was one of the few people who said this guy is a genius and Sergio in time will get it right, so far things are going in the right direction. Thank you Sergio and thank you FIAT.

[Nero Horse]

Yes very true and many people were moaning about Sergio Marchionne and Fiat selling 10% shares in Ferrari, I was one of the few people who said this guy is a genius and Sergio in time will get it right, so far things are going in the right direction. Thank you Sergio and thank you FIAT.

Indeed. I had my doubts about Marchionne at first too, but I'm definitely starting to like him now. He has been doing a very good job at guiding Ferrari so far (with all due respect and gratitude to Luca di Montezemolo). Marchionne certainly seems to have managed to put all the right people into the right places and the Scuderia's form has improved significantly ever since he took over. So yes, definitely, kudos to him.

[vetalo]

Hiring Hamilton will not happen, I am sure Ferrari has an idea on what kind of drivers they employ and I am sure Lewis is not on the list. That is one of the reasons I am a Ferrari fan. Don't get me wrong I think he is a top 4 driver easily but there are others that can do a great job and they don't act like a monkey on drugs.

You have no right to use such a language here, and i want the moderator to remove this post. Becuase it is a racist comment. I don't like people like you.

[shamim179]

As someone mentioned before some of the credit needs to go to Mattiacci. He made some tough decisions and probably ended up exposing one of the main problems within Ferrari which was Luca and I don't mean to disrespect him here but nobody can be fit to do the job forever despite his achievements with Ferrari in the past. Mattiacci took a flight to Europe from USA leaving his family soon after the phone call from Luca hadn't slept much to take on a challenging role with a team that were in turmoil. Not many people would have done that in a similar situation. I didn't like how his services were relinquished but that's how it goes in cutthroat environments.

[Wildcat]

Maurizio is the best TP of the whole paddock. I love him ! He's the best leader Ferrari could get...

[gazoz]

!00% Agree he was good and deserves credit also

As someone mentioned before some of the credit needs to go to Mattiacci. He made some tough decisions and probably ended up exposing one of the main problems within Ferrari which was Luca and I don't mean to disrespect him here but nobody can be fit to do the job forever despite his achievements with Ferrari in the past. Mattiacci took a flight to Europe from USA leaving his family soon after the phone call from Luca hadn't slept much to take on a challenging role with a team that were in turmoil. Not many people would have done that in a similar situation. I didn't like how his services were relinquished but that's how it goes in cutthroat environments.

[IulianFerrari]

You have no right to use such a language here, and i want the moderator to remove this post. Becuase it is a racist comment. I don't like people like you.

First of all it was not intended as a racist remark, I cleared that out ( I hope ) when somebody else asked me about it. If it was Nico acting like that I would have said the same thing, I can assure you it was not made out to be a racist remark, there are a lot of dark skin people that I have a lot of respect for and do have a few friends myself.
I just disapprove of that kind of behaviour and I do not see it fit for a Ferrari driver ( a brand which prides itself with a certain quality of employees, designs, drivers and customers). I don't see anyone at Ferrari exposing their 2 chains of gold around their neck (or any other "bling" materials), do you ?
HAMILTON-SHANGHAI-BLING.jpg
lewis-hamilton-628.jpg

It is just not the Ferrari way.

[gazoz]

Agree whats with the Chain?

First of all it was not intended as a racist remark, I cleared that out ( I hope ) when somebody else asked me about it. If it was Nico acting like that I would have said the same thing, I can assure you it was not made out to be a racist remark, there are a lot of dark skin people that I have a lot of respect for and do have a few friends myself.
I just disapprove of that kind of behaviour and I do not see it fit for a Ferrari driver ( a brand which prides itself with a certain quality of employees, designs, drivers and customers). I don't see anyone at Ferrari exposing their 2 chains of gold around their neck (or any other "bling" materials), do you ?
HAMILTON-SHANGHAI-BLING.jpg
lewis-hamilton-628.jpg

It is just not the Ferrari way.

[mark p]

[QUOTE=IulianFerrari;886227]First of all it was not intended as a racist remark, I cleared that out ( I hope ) when somebody else asked me about it. If it was Nico acting like that I would have said the same thing, I can assure you it was not made out to be a racist remark, there are a lot of dark skin people that I have a lot of respect for and do have a few friends myself.
I just disapprove of that kind of behaviour and I do not see it fit for a Ferrari driver ( a brand which prides itself with a certain quality of employees, designs, drivers and customers). I don't see anyone at Ferrari exposing their 2 chains of gold around their neck (or any other "bling" materials), do you ?
HAMILTON-SHANGHAI-BLING.jpg
lewis-hamilton-628.jpg

Ferrari should employ whoever maximises their chances of winning when the time is appropriate to hire new staff....if it involves gold chains, rap music, ice cream, samurai tattoos or wagging fingers so be it.

You mentioned owners....Hamilton bought a La Ferrari so must have bought others....rap stars or whatever contribute more to Ferrari financially than I do as they buy the cars sadly I cannot but of course cannot speak for you.

[IulianFerrari]

Furthermore I edited the post since you are not the first to point out this might have a racism tendency. I would gladly cheer for a dark skin driver our two for that matter if they were acting responsible, even though it is just when the cameras are on. This flashing of one's possessions( and other issues) does not go well with our more than respectable brand and I do not want kids that support Ferrari to see people like that as a role model.

[gazoz]

Im happy who ever drives for Ferrari as long as it benefits the team chains or whatever it is [QUOTE=mark p;886232]

First of all it was not intended as a racist remark, I cleared that out ( I hope ) when somebody else asked me about it. If it was Nico acting like that I would have said the same thing, I can assure you it was not made out to be a racist remark, there are a lot of dark skin people that I have a lot of respect for and do have a few friends myself.
I just disapprove of that kind of behaviour and I do not see it fit for a Ferrari driver ( a brand which prides itself with a certain quality of employees, designs, drivers and customers). I don't see anyone at Ferrari exposing their 2 chains of gold around their neck (or any other "bling" materials), do you ?
HAMILTON-SHANGHAI-BLING.jpg
lewis-hamilton-628.jpg

Ferrari should employ whoever maximises their chances of winning when the time is appropriate to hire new staff....if it involves gold chains, rap music, ice cream, samurai tattoos or wagging fingers so be it.

[IulianFerrari]

[QUOTE=mark p;886232]

First of all it was not intended as a racist remark, I cleared that out ( I hope ) when somebody else asked me about it. If it was Nico acting like that I would have said the same thing, I can assure you it was not made out to be a racist remark, there are a lot of dark skin people that I have a lot of respect for and do have a few friends myself.
I just disapprove of that kind of behaviour and I do not see it fit for a Ferrari driver ( a brand which prides itself with a certain quality of employees, designs, drivers and customers). I don't see anyone at Ferrari exposing their 2 chains of gold around their neck (or any other "bling" materials), do you ?
HAMILTON-SHANGHAI-BLING.jpg
lewis-hamilton-628.jpg

Ferrari should employ whoever maximises their chances of winning when the time is appropriate to hire new staff....if it involves gold chains, rap music, ice cream, samurai tattoos or wagging fingers so be it.

You mentioned owners....Hamilton bought a La Ferrari so must have bought others....rap stars or whatever contribute more to Ferrari financially than I do as they buy the cars sadly I cannot but of course cannot speak for you.

I believe that our current line-up of drivers is really good and when Kimi retires there are drivers who are close to Lewis's level. I do believe he is fast but he isn't the one making the difference between Mercedes and Ferrari at the moment, it is the car. I also believe that it is more important who represents the brand and is paid for it, rather than who has bought a car. Lewis has earned his money and can do whatever he pleases with it, I just do not think he should be the face of Ferrari F1 team.

[shamim179]

First of all it was not intended as a racist remark, I cleared that out ( I hope ) when somebody else asked me about it. If it was Nico acting like that I would have said the same thing, I can assure you it was not made out to be a racist remark, there are a lot of dark skin people that I have a lot of respect for and do have a few friends myself.
I just disapprove of that kind of behaviour and I do not see it fit for a Ferrari driver ( a brand which prides itself with a certain quality of employees, designs, drivers and customers). I don't see anyone at Ferrari exposing their 2 chains of gold around their neck (or any other "bling" materials), do you ?
HAMILTON-SHANGHAI-BLING.jpg
lewis-hamilton-628.jpg

It is just not the Ferrari way.

Ironically, these photos can suggest that Ferrari would find Hamiton very handy in promoting Ferrari's image to the wider audience by initially getting more rap stars to buy Ferrari cars and potentially roll out some juicy SUV's to market to wealthier parents.

[wickedf1]

Ironically, these photos can suggest that Ferrari would find Hamiton very handy in promoting Ferrari's image to the wider audience by initially getting more rap stars to buy Ferrari cars and potentially roll out some juicy SUV's to market to wealthier parents.

Hamilton does not have influence on the rap star. The rap star has influence on Hamilton. Already the rap star have the ferrari, porches, lamborghini, cadillack, mercedes and even others like mclaren, so this is not the reason to take the man. You take the man to drive because he is excellent driver and makes the team championships! What is important is the drivers are causing harmony and not fighting or you get nothing like in mclaren in 2007

[vetalo]

First of all it was not intended as a racist remark, I cleared that out ( I hope ) when somebody else asked me about it. If it was Nico acting like that I would have said the same thing, I can assure you it was not made out to be a racist remark, there are a lot of dark skin people that I have a lot of respect for and do have a few friends myself.
I just disapprove of that kind of behaviour and I do not see it fit for a Ferrari driver ( a brand which prides itself with a certain quality of employees, designs, drivers and customers). I don't see anyone at Ferrari exposing their 2 chains of gold around their neck (or any other "bling" materials), do you ?
HAMILTON-SHANGHAI-BLING.jpg
lewis-hamilton-628.jpg

It is just not the Ferrari way.

I don't wear bling, but you are judging him by what he wears; somebody you don't know. There are several people who don't wear chain that Ferrari would not touch with a long arm because they do worst things. There are several F1 drivers who are party rockers some still drove for Ferrari, just because Lewis wear his gold chain does not mean you should start to spread hate about him.a man can choose the ways he want to dress. You have your own life and I have no right talk about you ifi don't like your way or do I?
The word "monkey as always been used to abuse brown/black people so don't tell me you have one as friend because you won't use same word on them.

The world is made up of different human beings just imagine if every things ever made is white- it would be very drab and we would never have had a RED FERRAR.II don't know why he choose to wear his chains even if I do I have no right to judge him because he just like you, have the right to choose whatever you want to wear. If Ferrari choose to hire him I would support him because he can only make Ferrari stronger - he is a good driver And My loyalty is to Ferrari not the driver because drivers come and drivers goes but Ferrari remains the only car every formula 1 drivers dreams of driving.

[qb_marukochan]

oru car had speed there...

look at head to head laptime between kimi and nico.

http://macofan.com/en/index.php?page...mi%20Raikkonen

on 1st stint, the pace was there, not too far.

and compare kimi's ( medium ) and rosberg 2nd stint ( soft ) , kimi's pace was impressive and the deg was low too.

[aroutis]

[QUOTE=mark p;886232]

First of all it was not intended as a racist remark, I cleared that out ( I hope ) when somebody else asked me about it. If it was Nico acting like that I would have said the same thing, I can assure you it was not made out to be a racist remark, there are a lot of dark skin people that I have a lot of respect for and do have a few friends myself.
I just disapprove of that kind of behaviour and I do not see it fit for a Ferrari driver ( a brand which prides itself with a certain quality of employees, designs, drivers and customers). I don't see anyone at Ferrari exposing their 2 chains of gold around their neck (or any other "bling" materials), do you ?
HAMILTON-SHANGHAI-BLING.jpg
lewis-hamilton-628.jpg

Ferrari should employ whoever maximises their chances of winning when the time is appropriate to hire new staff....if it involves gold chains, rap music, ice cream, samurai tattoos or wagging fingers so be it.

You mentioned owners....Hamilton bought a La Ferrari so must have bought others....rap stars or whatever contribute more to Ferrari financially than I do as they buy the cars sadly I cannot but of course cannot speak for you.

I don't agree with that.
Ferrari is a brand name , a tradition, when they employ someone, they are asked to blend in.

I cannot see someone that is acting as Hamilton right now, to represent Ferrari. It has absolutely nothing to do with racism , actually I hate racism. But it IS all about image.

[superwonderboy]

Taking into consideration our position last year, i say we have exceeded our expectations for this year, thus we can be very satisfied with the results thus far. Remember we supposed to use this year to develop our car, but none of us thought that we would be so competitive, so we must be happy with what we have achieved thus far.