2025 Bahrain Grand Prix - Race

[tifosi1993]

they've basically come out and said as much that the floor is 3-5mm higher than they had going into Australia.

lurk more, please

Where? Show me the quote, Mr. expert.

[jgonzalesm6]

just like some posts aren't racist, i think that post was kind and welcoming.

where is my "cavallino was right" post???

you bashed me after Friday.

where's the post?

Did I post you were wrong re: "Cavallino was right" (to whatever post you claim to be right on)

[JPZ]

We had no new softs and we overheat them, would not have worked for us I think but we will never know.

So no choice really, had to use the hards.

[Cavallino]

Where? Show me the quote, Mr. expert.

are you seriously trying to say you know more about enginerring, yet you don't understand how ride height effects performance?

and you can't fathom how much of an effect these flexi-wings can have?

[Cavallino]

So no choice really, had to use the hards.

pretty much, and they were bad on all cars, a case could be made that they weren't as bad on the Ferrari as the other cars

[nani_s23]

Ignore that fool. Doesn't know anything about F1 engineering yet pretending to be some Walmart Newey.

Walmart Newey

[Cavallino]

Walmart Newey

and i'm debating a bunch of walmart Cardiles

[jgonzalesm6]

and you can't fathom how much of an effect these flexi-wings can have?

The FIA have done 2025 test loads on the front and rear wings flexion on all cars. ALL cars are legal for the time being.

[tifosi1993]

are you seriously trying to say you know more about enginerring, yet you don't understand how ride height effects performance?

and you can't fathom how much of an effect these flexi-wings can have?

Stop deflecting, Mr. Expert.

You said Ferrari themselves admitted after Australia that they were forced to raise the floor by 3-5mm. Show me the quote.

Either back up your claims with actual words from the team members, or shut up.

[Cavallino]

The FIA have done 2025 test loads on the front and rear wings flexion on all cars. ALL cars are legal for the time being.

even for after Spain?

[Cavallino]

Stop deflecting, Mr. Expert.

You said Ferrari themselves admitted after Australia that they were forced to raise the floor by 3-5mm. Show me the quote.

Either back up your claims with actual words from the team members, or shut up.

go read Hamilton going into Japan, i'm not going to do the work for you, but he said they raised the ride height.

and go read what Leclerc said in Australia on Saturday qualifying.

[ntukza]

Hamilton gained a few place and Charles lost a couple.

Not much to write home about.

Lol. Well, when you put it that way. I guess when you simply look at the results on paper, you have a point.

Our tyre offset in the first stint really defined our race. It's therefore hard to know whether our genuine shot at p2 (before the SC stuffed us up) was due to strong race pace relative to our competitors or due to tyre strategy.

[jgonzalesm6]

even for after Spain?

You do realize the FIA takes aside ANY car of their choice and does a full scrutineering of the car before a GP weekend before the car touches the track?

[Greig]

Stop deflecting, Mr. Expert.

You said Ferrari themselves admitted after Australia that they were forced to raise the floor by 3-5mm. Show me the quote.

Either back up your claims with actual words from the team members, or shut up.

Hamilton’s disqualification appeared to confirm reports that Ferrari have struggled with the ride height of their SF-25 car in the early weeks of the season, with the seven-time World Champion revealing at last weekend’s Japanese GP that the car is currently “running higher than we would like.”

“Yes, we are running higher than we would like, but I don’t know if everyone is in the same boat in that respect,” Hamilton told Sky Sports.
“Particularly, after the last race, we’re higher than we want to be. It’s usually the knock-on effect from a weekend like we had before.

[GoodtimesF1]

So true, we are never ever lucky, having said that, I don't think that small debris justifed safety car going out

You should never rely on luck but you can do something to bring yourself into positions to benefit from luck based situations. The way to not do it is to put both drivers on the same tyre strategy. The idea was probebly to go for a med, med soft stint but the chance of a safety car was not on their minds. Should have split the strategy between our drivers.

2 other general comments:

1. The amount of armchair Flavio Briatrore's here is absurd. To think Norris is a terrible driver makes me convinced that some of you know nothing. It is obvious he's having a bad weekend and still manges to get it on the podium. This is how you win a championship. Oscar is obviously a very talented driver but he's also the type that can have a weekend where he's nowhere to be seen. Let's wait and see at the end of the season how it is going to be. Same thing for Russel. The guy is better than some of you are willing to give him credit for.

2. What the hell is happening with the direction of the race. Timings are of and we are watching pointless driving when the lead pack drivers are within striking distance from each other. In the 28 years that I have been actively F1 race I've never seen it been this terrible. And it has been every race so far this season. And they really need to fix the issue with the relative timing overlays. It's one of the most important things in translating the excitement of the racing. You're just watch cars go around without knowing anything on where they stand as it is now. Addes insult for paying €21 a month to watch it on Viaplay to still get ads when exiciting stuff is happening on track. That one I can't blame on F1 but still.

[Cavallino]

You do realize the FIA takes aside ANY car of their choice and does a full scrutineering of the car before a GP weekend before the car touches the track?

You DO realize the rule changes at Spain right?

[tifosi1993]

go read Hamilton going into Japan, i'm not going to do the work for you, but he said they raised the ride height.

and go read what Leclerc said in Australia on Saturday qualifying.

they've basically come out and said as much that the floor is 3-5mm higher than they had going into Australia.

lurk more, please

So Mr. expert can't even back up his own claims.

[Cavallino]

You should never rely on luck but you can do something to bring yourself into positions to benefit from luck based situations. The way to not do it is to put both drivers on the same tyre strategy. The idea was probebly to go for a med, med soft stint but the chance of a safety car was not on their minds. Should have split the strategy between our drivers.

2 other general comments:

1. The amount of armchair Flavio Briatrore's here is absurd. To think Norris is a terrible driver makes me convinced that some of you know nothing. It is obvious he's having a bad weekend and still manges to get it on the podium. This is how you win a championship. Oscar is obviously a very talented driver but he's also the type that can have a weekend where he's nowhere to be seen. Let's wait and see at the end of the season how it is going to be. Same thing for Russel. The guy is better than some of you are willing to give him credit for.

2. What the hell is happening with the direction of the race. Timings are of and we are watching pointless driving when the lead pack drivers are within striking distance from each other. In the 28 years that I have been actively F1 race I've never seen it been this terrible. And it has been every race so far this season. And they really need to fix the issue with the relative timing overlays. It's one of the most important things in translating the excitement of the racing. You're just watch cars go around without knowing anything on where they stand as it is now. Addes insult for paying €21 a month to watch it on Viaplay to still get ads when exiciting stuff is happening on track. That one I can't blame on F1 but still.

I agree with most of this.

I'm usually a fan of splitting strategies.

[Cavallino]

So Mr. expert can't even back up his own claims.

https://autogear.pt/en/lewis-hamilto...ka-grand-prix/

sucks to suck

[jgonzalesm6]

You DO realize the rule changes at Spain right?

Yes and the FIA is constantly checking the loads on the front wings and rear wings.....even after Spain.

All cars are in compliance for the time being.

[Cavallino]

Yes and the FIA is constantly checking the loads on the front wings and rear wings.....even after Spain.

All cars are in compliance for the time being.

not what i'm getting at, what happens to Alpine and Mclaren after Spain?

these are the things you have to think about when you start thinking "big picture".

We're getting there, stay with me now.

[tifosi1993]

go read Hamilton going into Japan, i'm not going to do the work for you, but he said they raised the ride height.

and go read what Leclerc said in Australia on Saturday qualifying.

they've basically come out and said as much that the floor is 3-5mm higher than they had going into Australia.

lurk more, please

Hamilton’s disqualification appeared to confirm reports that Ferrari have struggled with the ride height of their SF-25 car in the early weeks of the season, with the seven-time World Champion revealing at last weekend’s Japanese GP that the car is currently “running higher than we would like.”

It is claimed that the setup the team had identified in the simulator ahead of Melbourne had proven incorrect, with the car running too close to the surface of the track in Friday practice.
Ferrari proceeded to raise the ride height for the remainder of the weekend to avoid excessive wear to the skid blocks, which brings the risk of disqualification, but in doing so lost aerodynamic performance.

So, no one from Ferrari said anything about raising the ride height. This is what Charels said after the qualifying:

"The lap wasn't great, all in all, we just didn't have the pace today. We mainly struggled with the balance of the car and putting it all together, so we have some work to do. We expect rain and tricky conditions for the race, so we will give it everything and see what's possible."

[nani_s23]

and i'm debating a bunch of walmart Cardiles

You area good reviewer than a debater.

[jgonzalesm6]

not what i'm getting at, what happens to Alpine and Mclaren after Spain?

these are the things you have to think about when you start thinking "big picture".

We're getting there, stay with me now.

Then what-the-**** are you getting at?

[Dune]

Imagine Ferrari would have that McLaren rocketship…

[Greig]

So, no one from Ferrari said anything about raising the ride height. This is what Charels said after the qualifying:

Anyone with any sense can see we raised the car after Friday in Australia.

[tifosi1993]

https://autogear.pt/en/lewis-hamilto...ka-grand-prix/

sucks to suck

He said that in Suzuka, not after the Australian GP. And he didn't say anything about 3-5mm, like you claimed.

So shut up fool and stop embarrassing yourself.

[Cavallino]

Then what-the-**** are getting at?

The test for flexi-wings changes after Spain right?

[Cavallino]

He said that in Suzuka, not after the Australian GP. And he didn't say anything about 3-5mm, like you claimed.

So shut up fool and stop embarrassing yourself.

ah so you're pivoting.

look, the vast preponderance of the evidence supports my position.

i'm not going to try to convince the Walmart Cardile of the what is happening.

[tifosi1993]

Anyone with any sense can see we raised the car after Friday in Australia.

And you lack basic common sense, so yeah. It's now surprising that you and the Walmart Newey here can see the millimetre difference between the floor and the tarmac with your naked eyes.